Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Saturday 23 November 2013 08:18:46 Mark Wendt did opine:

  Mount it in a collet?
 
  Mark

 To put it on axis?  What would I do with the USB cable?  I want a fixed,
 solid mount, doesn't have to be on axis as that offset can be subtracted.
 I think I have an idea now, need a good knee and warm enough in the shop to
 get it done.


To mount it in the quill.  Machine a small post that can be held in the
collet, that can also hold the camera body.  Machine the post so that you
have a curved tab sticking down from the post, and use a hose clamp or
other means to hold the camera body to the post.  That way, the center of
the camera would be on the center point of the Z axis, and you wouldn't
have to worry about applying an offset to the center of the image.  The
cable wouldn't have to go into the collet, since the camera and the cable
would be outside the collet.

Mark
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 November 2013 09:21:00 Mark Wendt did opine:

 On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
  On Saturday 23 November 2013 08:18:46 Mark Wendt did opine:
   Mount it in a collet?
   
   Mark
  
  To put it on axis?  What would I do with the USB cable?  I want a
  fixed, solid mount, doesn't have to be on axis as that offset can
  be subtracted. I think I have an idea now, need a good knee and warm
  enough in the shop to get it done.
 
 To mount it in the quill.  Machine a small post that can be held in the
 collet, that can also hold the camera body.  Machine the post so that
 you have a curved tab sticking down from the post, and use a hose clamp
 or other means to hold the camera body to the post.  That way, the
 center of the camera would be on the center point of the Z axis, and
 you wouldn't have to worry about applying an offset to the center of
 the image.  The cable wouldn't have to go into the collet, since the
 camera and the cable would be outside the collet.
 
 Mark

Mmmm, now that could be made workable, but its then another tool to change.  
It also assumes, unless I make alignment adjustment provisions in the 
curved tab, that the camera is dead on axis.  I don't think I'd want to bet 
a penny on that in a $22 camera.  And That would also put me back to all 
the tool changing I have to do with my present G38.2 based location 
methods.  Time killers.  But if what I have in mind doesn't pan out, it 
will be the next to try, thanks Mark.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Saturday 23 November 2013 09:21:00 Mark Wendt did opine:

  On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   On Saturday 23 November 2013 08:18:46 Mark Wendt did opine:
Mount it in a collet?
   
Mark
  
   To put it on axis?  What would I do with the USB cable?  I want a
   fixed, solid mount, doesn't have to be on axis as that offset can
   be subtracted. I think I have an idea now, need a good knee and warm
   enough in the shop to get it done.
 
  To mount it in the quill.  Machine a small post that can be held in the
  collet, that can also hold the camera body.  Machine the post so that
  you have a curved tab sticking down from the post, and use a hose clamp
  or other means to hold the camera body to the post.  That way, the
  center of the camera would be on the center point of the Z axis, and
  you wouldn't have to worry about applying an offset to the center of
  the image.  The cable wouldn't have to go into the collet, since the
  camera and the cable would be outside the collet.
 
  Mark

 Mmmm, now that could be made workable, but its then another tool to change.
 It also assumes, unless I make alignment adjustment provisions in the
 curved tab, that the camera is dead on axis.  I don't think I'd want to bet
 a penny on that in a $22 camera.  And That would also put me back to all
 the tool changing I have to do with my present G38.2 based location
 methods.  Time killers.  But if what I have in mind doesn't pan out, it
 will be the next to try, thanks Mark.

 Cheers, Gene


Gene,

is the camera center concentric or not with the camera body?  If it is
concentric, drill and ream the post to the outside dimension of the camera
body.  On a mini mill, how long does it take to change a collet?  Probably
about the same amount of time it takes to change out a regular
old-fashioned touch-off tool.

Mark
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Re: [Emc-users] Scale ring engraving

2013-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 4 November 2013 14:03, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:


 The real reason I went for the all g-code solution was firstly that I
 thought it might be fun (the idea of a G-code line O0 sub amused my
 in a perverse way for a start). The other reason was that if I was
 looking for a bit of g-code to do the job then perhaps someone else
 would want it too.


Despite the fonts being bases on octagons, you can't really tell:

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/O8NxW5BAi-iinIK_86CgvNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

I need to fix the G-code though, there is a stray F200 in there which you
hit on single-digit numbers!

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[Emc-users] a bit off topic BBB question

2013-11-23 Thread Mike Eitel
Sorry to ask here but I'm out od ideas and now 
wonder a hw Problem?

Some weeks before I used succesfully chalboard 10LCD with cape.
Then just before mounting into housing... no more images
I restarted from scratch. Already ordered new bbb but fear to eventually 
brick that also ?

I have a pure bbb, no capes no sd Card.
5V via plug, serial adapter and Ethernet connected

fresh loaded unmodified sw:

U-Boot 2013.04-dirty (Jun 19 2013 - 09:57:14)

The Angstrom Distribution beaglebone ttyO0
Angstrom v2012.12 - Kernel 3.8.13
.

I think that i have a hw problem ???

...
Uncompressing Linux... done, booting the kernel.
[0.193597] omap2_mbox_probe: platform not supported
[0.204195] tps65217-bl tps65217-bl: no platform data provided
[0.280781] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #0: No cape found
[0.317887] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #1: No cape found
[0.354994] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #2: No cape found
[0.392102] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #3: No cape found
[0.412124] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #6: BB-BONELT-HDMIN
conflict P8.45 (#5:BB-BONELT-HDMI)
[0.421746] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: slot #6: Failed verification
[0.428526] bone-capemgr bone_capemgr.8: loader: failed to load slot-6 
BB-BONELT-HDMIN:00A0 (prio 2)
[0.451224] omap_hsmmc mmc.4: of_parse_phandle_with_args of 'reset' 
failed
[0.515628] pinctrl-single 44e10800.pinmux: pin 44e10854 already 
requested by 44e10800.pinmux; 
cannot claim for gpio-leds.7
[0.527375] pinctrl-single 44e10800.pinmux: pin-21 (gpio-leds.7) 
status -22
[0.534689] pinctrl-single 44e10800.pinmux: could not request pin 21 on 
device pinctrl-single
[6.634792] libphy: PHY 4a101000.mdio:01 not found
[6.639904] net eth0: phy 4a101000.mdio:01 not found on slave 1
systemd-fsck[84]: Angstrom: clean, 50765/112672 files, 403702/449820 blocks
..

Can somebody please give me advise if this is normal?
Mike


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Re: [Emc-users] Scale ring engraving

2013-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 November 2013 11:30:24 andy pugh did opine:

 On 4 November 2013 14:03, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
  The real reason I went for the all g-code solution was firstly that I
  thought it might be fun (the idea of a G-code line O0 sub amused my
  in a perverse way for a start). The other reason was that if I was
  looking for a bit of g-code to do the job then perhaps someone else
  would want it too.
 
 Despite the fonts being bases on octagons, you can't really tell:
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/O8NxW5BAi-iinIK_86CgvNMTjNZETYmyPJ
 y0liipFm0?feat=directlink
 
 I need to fix the G-code though, there is a stray F200 in there which
 you hit on single-digit numbers!

Considering the first pix of what you started with Andy, that is very good 
indeed!

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt wrote:

 is the camera center concentric or not with the camera body?  If it is
 concentric, drill and ream the post to the outside dimension of the camera
 body.  On a mini mill, how long does it take to change a collet?  Probably
 about the same amount of time it takes to change out a regular
 old-fashioned touch-off tool.

   
It is not going to be concentric to within .001 or better, that's for sure!
So, an adjustment mechanism needs to be provided.  Also, you need to
have it fairly straight, so a small difference in Z distance doesn't
provide a shift in the crosshairs.  But, such a mechanism could be
made pretty small.  Possibly hollowing out an end mill holder or
other taper shank part (or making one from scratch) would allow
the adjusting mechanism and part of the camera to fit up in the
spindle taper.  Maybe you'd have the adjusting screws just be setscrews
tapped into the body of the holder.  6 setscrews in two rings
of 3, an inch apart might be enough.  You'd then have to pull the
thing to adjust the screws each time, but you should never have
to adjust it again, once it is zeroed in.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 November 2013 12:43:43 Jon Elson did opine:

 Mark Wendt wrote:
  is the camera center concentric or not with the camera body?  If it is
  concentric, drill and ream the post to the outside dimension of the
  camera body.  On a mini mill, how long does it take to change a
  collet?  Probably about the same amount of time it takes to change
  out a regular old-fashioned touch-off tool.
 
 It is not going to be concentric to within .001 or better, that's for
 sure! So, an adjustment mechanism needs to be provided.  Also, you need
 to have it fairly straight, so a small difference in Z distance doesn't
 provide a shift in the crosshairs.  But, such a mechanism could be made
 pretty small.  Possibly hollowing out an end mill holder or other taper
 shank part (or making one from scratch) would allow the adjusting
 mechanism and part of the camera to fit up in the spindle taper.  Maybe
 you'd have the adjusting screws just be setscrews tapped into the body
 of the holder.  6 setscrews in two rings
 of 3, an inch apart might be enough.  You'd then have to pull the
 thing to adjust the screws each time, but you should never have
 to adjust it again, once it is zeroed in.
 
 Jon

I can see how that could work if making it, make it a #2 taper without 
slits so it wouldn't crush the camera, but oversized in length so the 
bottom row of screws are accessible for adjusting when its plugged into the 
spindle, and broach a groove for the usb cable exit.  I can do every thing 
but the broaching of the cable exit groove.  But it is still a time waster 
to change to/from it though, so that would likely be my 2nd choice.

I might have to ask what the taper in radius is per inch of a #2, ISTR my 
handbook shows the angle only.  If I do it, or perhaps, since they are 
pretty cheap, buy 2 more for another $44 and make one up that way, 3rd for 
a spare so I don't have to reinvent this wheel if it fails or gets wrecked 
from starting the spindle with it mounted.

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 November 2013 13:21:30 Gene Heskett did opine:

 On Saturday 23 November 2013 12:43:43 Jon Elson did opine:
  Mark Wendt wrote:
   is the camera center concentric or not with the camera body?  If it
   is concentric, drill and ream the post to the outside dimension of
   the camera body.  On a mini mill, how long does it take to change a
   collet?  Probably about the same amount of time it takes to change
   out a regular old-fashioned touch-off tool.
  
  It is not going to be concentric to within .001 or better, that's for
  sure! So, an adjustment mechanism needs to be provided.  Also, you
  need to have it fairly straight, so a small difference in Z distance
  doesn't provide a shift in the crosshairs.  But, such a mechanism
  could be made pretty small.  Possibly hollowing out an end mill
  holder or other taper shank part (or making one from scratch) would
  allow the adjusting mechanism and part of the camera to fit up in the
  spindle taper.  Maybe you'd have the adjusting screws just be
  setscrews tapped into the body of the holder.  6 setscrews in two
  rings
  of 3, an inch apart might be enough.  You'd then have to pull the
  thing to adjust the screws each time, but you should never have
  to adjust it again, once it is zeroed in.
  
  Jon
 
 I can see how that could work if making it, make it a #2 taper without
 slits so it wouldn't crush the camera, but oversized in length so the
 bottom row of screws are accessible for adjusting when its plugged into
 the spindle, and broach a groove for the usb cable exit.  I can do
 every thing but the broaching of the cable exit groove.  But it is
 still a time waster to change to/from it though, so that would likely
 be my 2nd choice.
 
 I might have to ask what the taper in radius is per inch of a #2, ISTR
 my handbook shows the angle only.  If I do it, or perhaps, since they
 are pretty cheap, buy 2 more for another $44 and make one up that way,
 3rd for a spare so I don't have to reinvent this wheel if it fails or
 gets wrecked from starting the spindle with it mounted.
 
 Cheers, Gene

PS: Never mind the 2nd paragraph above, wikipedia to the rescue ;-)

Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Scale ring engraving

2013-11-23 Thread Marcus Bowman
What toolbit are you using?

Marcus

On 23 Nov 2013, at 15:53, andy pugh wrote:

 On 4 November 2013 14:03, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 The real reason I went for the all g-code solution was firstly that I
 thought it might be fun (the idea of a G-code line O0 sub amused my
 in a perverse way for a start). The other reason was that if I was
 looking for a bit of g-code to do the job then perhaps someone else
 would want it too.
 
 
 Despite the fonts being bases on octagons, you can't really tell:
 
 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/O8NxW5BAi-iinIK_86CgvNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
 
 I need to fix the G-code though, there is a stray F200 in there which you
 hit on single-digit numbers!
 
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Marcus Bowman



On 23 Nov 2013, at 18:02, Gene Heskett wrote:

 On Saturday 23 November 2013 12:43:43 Jon Elson did opine:
 
 Mark Wendt wrote:
 is the camera center concentric or not with the camera body?  If it is
 concentric, drill and ream the post to the outside dimension of the
 camera body.  On a mini mill, how long does it take to change a
 collet?  Probably about the same amount of time it takes to change
 out a regular old-fashioned touch-off tool.
 
 It is not going to be concentric to within .001 or better, that's for
 sure! So, an adjustment mechanism needs to be provided.  Also, you need
 to have it fairly straight, so a small difference in Z distance doesn't
 provide a shift in the crosshairs.  But, such a mechanism could be made
 pretty small.  Possibly hollowing out an end mill holder or other taper
 shank part (or making one from scratch) would allow the adjusting
 mechanism and part of the camera to fit up in the spindle taper.  Maybe
 you'd have the adjusting screws just be setscrews tapped into the body
 of the holder.  6 setscrews in two rings
 of 3, an inch apart might be enough.  You'd then have to pull the
 thing to adjust the screws each time, but you should never have
 to adjust it again, once it is zeroed in.
 
 Jon
 

I have an optical machine scope that has that kind of gimbal adjustment, 
although it is just two screws which act on a spherical arrangement inside (I 
think). Works fine.
I have also cobbled together an adjustable camera mount for a USB camera, but 
don't use it (prefer my optical scope).
What would be the disadvantage of mounting it permanently on the side of the 
head? That way it is always there, and you only need to calibrate its position 
relative to the spindle, once. You could use a work offset.

Marcus


 I can see how that could work if making it, make it a #2 taper without 
 slits so it wouldn't crush the camera, but oversized in length so the 
 bottom row of screws are accessible for adjusting when its plugged into the 
 spindle, and broach a groove for the usb cable exit.  I can do every thing 
 but the broaching of the cable exit groove.  But it is still a time waster 
 to change to/from it though, so that would likely be my 2nd choice.
 
 I might have to ask what the taper in radius is per inch of a #2, ISTR my 
 handbook shows the angle only.  If I do it, or perhaps, since they are 
 pretty cheap, buy 2 more for another $44 and make one up that way, 3rd for 
 a spare so I don't have to reinvent this wheel if it fails or gets wrecked 
 from starting the spindle with it mounted.
 
 Cheers, Gene
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Re: [Emc-users] Scale ring engraving

2013-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2013 18:24, Marcus Bowman 
marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote:

 What toolbit are you using?



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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Frederic RIBLE

Le 2013-11-23 19:35, Marcus Bowman a écrit :
 I have an optical machine scope that has that kind of gimbal adjustment, 
 although it is just two screws which act on a spherical arrangement inside (I 
 think). Works fine.
 I have also cobbled together an adjustable camera mount for a USB camera, but 
 don't use it (prefer my optical scope).
 What would be the disadvantage of mounting it permanently on the side of the 
 head? That way it is always there, and you only need to calibrate its 
 position relative to the spindle, once. You could use a work offset.

 Marcus



Your solution sounds like the one I have here: 
http://blog.f1oat.org/2013/09/01/the-webcam-mounting-bracket-after-machining-work/
The initial vertical alignment of the camera is painful, but when it is 
done, it is a pleasure to set the zero on the workpiece so quickly.
On my setup, the only drawback I have is that the camera Z position is 
fixed. So, the camera field of view (and the accuracy) depends on 
workpiece thickness.

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Re: [Emc-users] Scale ring engraving

2013-11-23 Thread Marcus Bowman

On 23 Nov 2013, at 19:22, andy pugh wrote:

 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130826028002?var=430112721191

Ok. Looks like the same lot I have. 15 degree (half angle) 0.2mm point. They 
work wonderfully well on aluminium and brass, but I wasn't sure if they would 
stand up to steel. Just scared, I suppose.
What speed and feed are you using in steel?

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[Emc-users] 3d Printer question

2013-11-23 Thread Terry Christophersen


Hi all

My son wants to build a 3d printer for school.
Can someone point me in the direction of hardware
(motors,drivers heater controls)

that works with LinuxCNC? Also he needs to learn
a slicing software.I have plenty of 3d models.

Thanks

Terry

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Re: [Emc-users] Scale ring engraving

2013-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 November 2013 21:41, Marcus Bowman 
marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote:


 Ok. Looks like the same lot I have. 15 degree (half angle) 0.2mm point.
 They work wonderfully well on aluminium and brass, but I wasn't sure if
 they would stand up to steel. Just scared, I suppose.
 What speed and feed are you using in steel?


It's cast iron, so a little easier than steel. 1300rpm (over-driving my
spindle :-) and 15mm/min feed.

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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Marcus Bowman

On 23 Nov 2013, at 21:14, Frederic RIBLE wrote:

 
 Le 2013-11-23 19:35, Marcus Bowman a écrit :
 I have an optical machine scope that has that kind of gimbal adjustment, 
 although it is just two screws which act on a spherical arrangement inside 
 (I think). Works fine.
 I have also cobbled together an adjustable camera mount for a USB camera, 
 but don't use it (prefer my optical scope).
 What would be the disadvantage of mounting it permanently on the side of the 
 head? That way it is always there, and you only need to calibrate its 
 position relative to the spindle, once. You could use a work offset.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
 Your solution sounds like the one I have here: 
 http://blog.f1oat.org/2013/09/01/the-webcam-mounting-bracket-after-machining-work/
 The initial vertical alignment of the camera is painful, but when it is 
 done, it is a pleasure to set the zero on the workpiece so quickly.
 On my setup, the only drawback I have is that the camera Z position is 
 fixed. So, the camera field of view (and the accuracy) depends on 
 workpiece thickness.
 
 Frederic.
 
 

Nice mount.

Marcus

 
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread andy pugh
On 22 November 2013 17:32, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 So I would be interested in how someone else has mounted one of the
 endoscope cameras on his mill, allowing for suitable methods of tweaking
 alignment.


I haven't done it, so this is just a quick-and-dirty idea.

Take a couple of inches of 3/4 aluminium rod, bore out the middle quite a
lot bigger than the chimera and then put a flat on the outside.
Drill a couple of countersunk holes all the way through for screws to mount
it to the mill head. Also drill and tap two pairs of holes at 120 degrees
to the flat spaced to suit the camera.
once the holder is mounted on the mill insert the camera and some dense
rubber foam. The foam should be on the mill-head side of the camera, and
the set screws that I forgot earlier should be on the other side.

You can now twiddle the 4 screws to align the camera, and the foam will
keep the camera pushed against the screws. The foam avoids the problem of
there being a mill head in just the place you would need to apply your hex
key.

Consider making the tube a little long, then you can fit a bung when the
camera is not in use.

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Re: [Emc-users] 3d Printer question

2013-11-23 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 11/23/2013 3:47 PM, Terry Christophersen wrote:
 
 Hi all
 
 My son wants to build a 3d printer for school.
 Can someone point me in the direction of hardware
 (motors,drivers heater controls)
 
 that works with LinuxCNC? Also he needs to learn
 a slicing software.I have plenty of 3d models.

For hardware, see:

http://bb-lcnc.blogspot.com/p/hardware-capes.html

For slicing software, checkout Slic3r, Cura, Skienforge, and KISSlicer,
there's a decent (although a bit dated) review of them here:

http://solidoodletips.wordpress.com/2012/12/03/slicer-comparison/

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Re: [Emc-users] a bit off topic BBB question

2013-11-23 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 11/23/2013 10:29 AM, Mike Eitel wrote:
 Can somebody please give me advise if this is normal?

I generally haven't seen errors like that, but I don't often boot the
default Angstrom release.  I'd recommend making sure your installed OS
is up-to-date, and asking your question on the BeagleBoard forums (where
there are more folks with BeagleBone experience and knowledge vs. this
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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 November 2013 19:38:04 Jon Elson did opine:

 Marcus Bowman wrote:
  I have an optical machine scope that has that kind of gimbal
  adjustment, although it is just two screws which act on a spherical
  arrangement inside (I think). Works fine. I have also cobbled
  together an adjustable camera mount for a USB camera, but don't use
  it (prefer my optical scope). What would be the disadvantage of
  mounting it permanently on the side of the head? That way it is
  always there, and you only need to calibrate its position relative to
  the spindle, once. You could use a work offset.
 
 The permanent mount can't allow for different Z distance.  Putting it in
 the spindle
 allows the Z axis mechanism of your machine to make this adjustment and
 bring
 the workpiece into sharp focus.  If your machine is a knee mill with the
 Z on
 the knee, or a machine where the whole head is your Z movement, what you
 suggest is fine.  My machine has a manual knee adjustment and a quill on
 the spindle, so the fixed head camera would require moving the knee for
 camera focus.  it would still work, but might not be as convenient.
 
 Jon

So in a sense, I'm one up on the knee mills.  My Z drive moves the whole 
maryann, something over a foot IIRC.

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Re: [Emc-users] endoscope camera mount?

2013-11-23 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote:
 So in a sense, I'm one up on the knee mills.  My Z drive moves the whole 
 maryann, something over a foot IIRC.
   
Yes, my minimill is the same way.  Having just ONE Z axis instead of two
is definitely better.  But, a Bridgeport is what it is, and is a lot more
capable machine.

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