Re: [Emc-users] Damper Q?

2014-12-21 Thread jrmitchellj .
Sad to hear that Gene.
My thoughts are with you!


Ray M.

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On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:

 On Friday 12 December 2014 14:42:26 skullwo...@yahoo.com did opine
 And Gene did reply:
  Gene;
 
  Have you tried the motor without the damper?

 Not since putting a D525MW based machine in that position.  This setup is
 still a software driven pulser.

  Seems the whole damper kludge was to make up for primitive half  full
  step drives being fed a pulse stream of questionable consistency.

 I expect there is that too. I am running 2M542's for drivers, set at x8
 stepper divisors. And I do expect to get another 5i25  put it in that
 machine as I am very impressed with how it works on the lathe.  Between
 that, and I just rx'd a stack of 48 volt, 3,3 amp supplies that I'll turn
 down to 45 volts if they'll go that low.  Whatever all 5 of them will turn
 down to, parallel them with .5 ohm isolation R's, into a big Sangamo cap,
 and run all motors from the capacitor.

 That should give the 2M542's a place to throw the switching current back
 flows without causing the supplies to trip off, a major problem in an
 older setup I had lashed together at one time about a decade back.

 I've no idea what sort of shutdown or over current fold back these units
 might do, so it remains TBD as to whether or not they can start and charge
 a 73,000 uf cap.  OTOH, I also have some 6300 uf'ers at 35 volts, 2 of
 those in series with resistive voltage balancing would be a lot less
 inrush at power up, and still ought to gobble up whatever the dancing
 motors can throw at them.

  On the flip side - the rattle dampers using cylinder shaped weights
  needs to be loose and dry to work. Tests done with oil added proved
  this causing the damper to become effectively a fly wheel and making
  performance even worse then running nothing on the motor rear shaft.

 I'd assume you mean by the attainable accels?  Or by the attainable speeds
 before stalls?

 However, progress on this will be slow till warmer weather comes round
 again.  I need to round up the 5i25, and another motor as I caught the
 power cable for the Y over the end of a board last week and ripped the
 wires out of the 225oz nema 23 on it, and had to put my last  only spare
 425 on it.

 My back after this past weekend is giving me hell  I need to arrange for
 some more cortisone shots before I can do a hell of a lot more.

 This past weekend was a bit of a whirlwind.  My oldest son took a bottle
 and a kia and killed himself last Thursday, so I was up at 3:30ish Friday
 morning to catch a plane to Omaha putting me in driving range of the
 weekends events, so I was in Yates Center KS Saturday  saw another son
 get married, to a girl he brought with him to visit last fall, and I told
 him then she was a keeper.  So they did it on a date that will never come
 around again for 1k years, 12/13/14. Then a motel for the night, getting
 up the next morning  heading for Central City NE,  arriving after
 visitation got started, no casket because he was cremated, saw that thru
 and had a couple meetings with his widow Lesa, and since all the rest of
 my boys (now 4) were there, we had a meeting and I came away with a
 partial list of who gets what when my time is up.  But then the
 conversation got side tracked and we now have tentative plans to go on a
 Texas pig hunt sometime next fall.  Apparently as guest of the boys.
 Thats the plan anyway.  ;-)

 Then back to my youngun's place in Nebraska City  let my back rest Monday
 morning, went to work with him in the afternoon, he works at a service
 facility that specializes in repair and re-certification of stuff used in
 the Nuclear industry, and wound up actually doing some work, teaching
 school as it were.  Patrick intro'd me around to the rest of the crew as
 hands down the smartest person in the building.  I may have been, but IMO
 that also tends to make the rest of the frogs a bit wary.  But I am also
 pleased as punch that he thinks so. :)

 FWIW, there are people on this list that fit in that category too, and you
 know who you are. And, because you do know who you are, you know why I
 write the above.

 Patrick is learning a lot working there, and for a boy who got a bit of a
 slow start as he was born deaf, and lived on a pre-digested formula for
 the first 2 years, but his ears at about 5 yo started to work and now in
 his mid 30's, hears at least as well as I do at 80.

 I have a study course on passing the C.E.T. exam 

Re: [Emc-users] Damper Q?

2014-12-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 December 2014 13:09:31 jrmitchellj . did opine
And Gene did reply:
 Sad to hear that Gene.
 My thoughts are with you!
 
 
 Ray M.
 
 --J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
 jrmitche...@gmail.com
 (818)324-7573

Thanks Ray, I appreciate them.

I've temporarily pushed the new mill motor supply bits  pieces to the 
back of the queue until a function generator I bought on fleabay gets 
here, s/b shipped Monday.  Then I can see just how well a 425 can be 
driven when the driver is set for /25, the max it can divide a step into, 
and doable with a 5i25, but not with software stepping.  Current running 
at /8, and quite audible.

In the meantime, making red sawdust at the chop saw, and out of the random 
orbit sander and curly cues out of a Bailey #7 jointer plane, building the 
blanket chest on the front cover of the fall issue of Fine WordWorking.  I 
just sawed out to test the joint fit, the lid, and am somewhat amazed at 
the real estate that puppy takes up, currently 41.25x 22 wide.  
Breadboard ends will take it out to around 46 long overall.

Supposed to be 22.125, but try as I may, I can't make 4 ea 5.5 wide 
boards stretch that far. So the whole thing will shrink 1/8 in depth 
front to back, nominally, depends on how much I lose jointing it.  It will 
shrink internally anyway as I am going to line it with removable for 
sanding, aromatic cedar TG closet liner.  I figure if I do it, I may as 
well do it first class. :)

[...]

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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