Re: [Emc-users] Persistently storing HAL pin value

2014-12-24 Thread schoone...@btinternet.com
Hi Alex

 Seb wrote:
 If you're making a userspace component (as opposed to a realtime
 component), you can just use fopen/fwrite/fclose to persist the values
 when they change, and fopen/fread/fclose at startup to restore them.

My component was called paramsaver, that is what it did, except that it created 
pins to match the data types, which
could be linked to pyVCP widgets or whatever and it both saved and initialised 
values through the linked pins

You can find it at mgwareDOTcoDOTuk  HAL Components  Paramsaver

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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On 12/23/2014 4:37 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:
  Next step is to get the 17,000 rpm motor speed down to something useful.

 Power turbine and a planetary gear?
 http://www.rc-airplanes-simplified.com/model-jet-engines.html


Wondered how long it was going to take for the RC guys to come up with a
turboprop engine.  Back when I flew FAI pattern, state of the art was a YS
140 4 stroke motor, and jet engines were quite in their infancy.

Nice piece of engineering.

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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 December 2014 05:24:33 Mark Wendt did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com 
wrote:
  On 12/23/2014 4:37 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:
   Next step is to get the 17,000 rpm motor speed down to something
   useful.
  
  Power turbine and a planetary gear?
  http://www.rc-airplanes-simplified.com/model-jet-engines.html
 
 Wondered how long it was going to take for the RC guys to come up with
 a turboprop engine.  Back when I flew FAI pattern, state of the art
 was a YS 140 4 stroke motor, and jet engines were quite in their
 infancy.
 
 Nice piece of engineering.
 
 Mark

I was impressed too, but what I was looking at is not the $75.00 .49 ci 2 
stroker of yore, circa 1950.  That looked like serious 2014 money, well 
north of $750 I'll bet.  But it surprised me that the air intake was at 
the rear.  Seems like a good opportunity to use the jets left over thrust 
was thrown away.

And, since no one seems to have mentioned it yet, Merry Christmas 
everybody!

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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:


 
  Wondered how long it was going to take for the RC guys to come up with
  a turboprop engine.  Back when I flew FAI pattern, state of the art
  was a YS 140 4 stroke motor, and jet engines were quite in their
  infancy.
 
  Nice piece of engineering.
 
  Mark

 I was impressed too, but what I was looking at is not the $75.00 .49 ci 2
 stroker of yore, circa 1950.  That looked like serious 2014 money, well
 north of $750 I'll bet.  But it surprised me that the air intake was at
 the rear.  Seems like a good opportunity to use the jets left over thrust
 was thrown away.

 And, since no one seems to have mentioned it yet, Merry Christmas
 everybody!

 Cheers, Gene Heskett



Gene,

I used to have all the high performance 2 stroke engines back when I was
flying RC planes.  My favorite was a Rossi .60 that I used on the old
fashioned pattern birds, rear exhaust with a big honkin' tuned pipe that
tunnelled under the bottom of the fuselage.  My other favorites were the
high end OS engines, both 2 stroke and 4 stroke.  OS made (makes?) some
very nice power plants.

And a very Merry Christmas and a blessed and prosperous New Years to you,
your family and all of us here on the LinuxCNC list.

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Re: [Emc-users] Persistently storing HAL pin value

2014-12-24 Thread Marius Liebenberg

On 2014-12-24 11:20, schoone...@btinternet.com wrote:
 Hi Alex

 Seb wrote:
 If you're making a userspace component (as opposed to a realtime
 component), you can just use fopen/fwrite/fclose to persist the values
 when they change, and fopen/fread/fclose at startup to restore them.
 My component was called paramsaver, that is what it did, except that it 
 created pins to match the data types, which
 could be linked to pyVCP widgets or whatever and it both saved and 
 initialised values through the linked pins

 You can find it at mgwareDOTcoDOTuk  HAL Components  Paramsaver

 regards

That is the one I was referring to. I found it amongst my code 
yesterday. It works very well and should solve Alexander's problem.



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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 December 2014 05:53:33 Mark Wendt did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:44 AM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote:
   Wondered how long it was going to take for the RC guys to come up
   with a turboprop engine.  Back when I flew FAI pattern, state of
   the art was a YS 140 4 stroke motor, and jet engines were quite in
   their infancy.
   
   Nice piece of engineering.
   
   Mark
  
  I was impressed too, but what I was looking at is not the $75.00 .49
  ci 2 stroker of yore, circa 1950.  That looked like serious 2014
  money, well north of $750 I'll bet.  But it surprised me that the
  air intake was at the rear.  Seems like a good opportunity to use
  the jets left over thrust was thrown away.
  
  And, since no one seems to have mentioned it yet, Merry Christmas
  everybody!
  
  Cheers, Gene Heskett
 
 Gene,
 
 I used to have all the high performance 2 stroke engines back when I
 was flying RC planes.  My favorite was a Rossi .60 that I used on the
 old fashioned pattern birds, rear exhaust with a big honkin' tuned
 pipe that tunnelled under the bottom of the fuselage.

That can, if there is room to do it right, make a serious contribution not 
only to the power, but the fuel economy.

 My other
 favorites were the high end OS engines, both 2 stroke and 4 stroke. 
 OS made (makes?) some very nice power plants.

Been out of that for about 65 years now, so I am not up to date on who 
makes what.  I went from those 2 strokes, to bigger ones on go karts back 
in the day.

My most ugly ever kart was an old gopher that I'd hung a Pacific Marine 
Bilge pump on swing mounts, with a pair of straight pipes about 20 long.  
It was a hard bearing engine based on the 1937 J-E outboard where it was 
about a 10 horse.  I tossed the lower two rings  blocked the groves, then 
found a narrower, slightly smaller ring for the top ring and used it for a 
groove stuffer holding a .025 thick steel ring.  It spun pretty freely 
then.  Bored out the intake passage to the center of the crank which was 
used as a rotary intake  put an overgrown Carter carb on it with a full 
1 throttle bore.  Threw away the flywheel and put a Bendix-Scintella 
button magnet magneto on it.  With 18 teeth on the crankshaft  64 or so 
on the axle, it could make north of 110 mph on the black hills blacktop 
back roads running on gas, but when I took it racing I usually had booze 
and castor oil in the left, 2 gallon tank. Water in an identical tank on 
the right side and a small water pump belted off the axle circulated the 
water thru a Nash heater core under the steering loop, open at the bottom 
so air could flow thru.

That was an unusual hard bearing engine, the rollers in the con rods 
weren't caged, and the rod caps were removable so one could fit bigger 
rollers in much the same way we now fit ball screw balls. The part line 
was very ragged as the rod was made in one piece with the bolt bosses 
preformed, and then fractured at the cap boss.  When the cap was 
reinstalled, the fractured grain assured perfect alignment and the 
fracture line could not be seen or felt in the rod bore.

But at the end of the racing night it was not competitive because while it 
could out torque anything on the track digging out of the corners, the 
deflector head pistons generally quit working well at around 7 grand.  But 
at 5500-6500, only one guy could out dig me coming off a corner and he had 
3 West Bend 700's (illegally big by the rules then) lined up across the 
rear of his machine.  He couldn't do it with 3 West Bend 580's on it 
though, but those came alive at about the same point my bilge pump quit, 
so he passed me easily halfway down the straight, burned into the corner 
where I would make up 30 feet (he couldn't drive) but it wasn't enough.

But it was fun while it lasted. ;-)

 And a very Merry Christmas and a blessed and prosperous New Years to
 you, your family and all of us here on the LinuxCNC list.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread tcninja12
FAI pattern... I knew I saw your name before this list. I tried but 
never was successful

Terry

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 24, 2014, at 4:24 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:12 PM, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 On 12/23/2014 4:37 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:
 Next step is to get the 17,000 rpm motor speed down to something useful.
 
 Power turbine and a planetary gear?
 http://www.rc-airplanes-simplified.com/model-jet-engines.html
 
 Wondered how long it was going to take for the RC guys to come up with a
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 Nice piece of engineering.
 
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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM, tcninj...@gmail.com wrote:

 FAI pattern... I knew I saw your name before this list. I tried but
 never was successful

 Terry



Hi Terry,

Yeah, it was a few years ago.  Started to get a little too expensive for
what little I was doing it, so I sorta drifted away from the sport.  It was
a lot of fun though, and I really did enjoy flying those pattern birds.  ;-)

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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread tcninja12
Old pattern ships were beautiful I thought.  New ones are not so much with the 
tall bodies and such. Everybody makes electric
powered ones too. Nothing beats the smell of burning castor and nitro. I'll 
never buy an electric plane even though it's probably better and more convenient

Terry

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 24, 2014, at 9:34 AM, Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM, tcninj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 FAI pattern... I knew I saw your name before this list. I tried but
 never was successful
 
 Terry
 
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 Yeah, it was a few years ago.  Started to get a little too expensive for
 what little I was doing it, so I sorta drifted away from the sport.  It was
 a lot of fun though, and I really did enjoy flying those pattern birds.  ;-)
 
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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread tcninja12
Old pattern ships were sleek and beautiful I think. New ones are not so much. I 
hate all the electric 
ones too.  Nothing beats the smell of burning castor and nitro 

Terry

Sent from my iPhone

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 On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM, tcninj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 FAI pattern... I knew I saw your name before this list. I tried but
 never was successful
 
 Terry
 
 
 Hi Terry,
 
 Yeah, it was a few years ago.  Started to get a little too expensive for
 what little I was doing it, so I sorta drifted away from the sport.  It was
 a lot of fun though, and I really did enjoy flying those pattern birds.  ;-)
 
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[Emc-users] ot: small drilling

2014-12-24 Thread kqt4at5v
I was watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkqnTBbJwo and about 10:00 
minutes in he is using a neat little drilling fixture. I found them on 
Enco, http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?P...MITEM=290-1291, but they are 
a bit pricey for my needs. I had the brain fart of merging the Enco Interstate 
adapter, #29207003, and 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Collet-C...item2ed8af4913. Is this a total 
waste of time? Is there such a thing as a 0JT reamer?



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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 10:57 AM, tcninj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Old pattern ships were beautiful I thought.  New ones are not so much with
 the tall bodies and such. Everybody makes electric
 powered ones too. Nothing beats the smell of burning castor and nitro.
 I'll never buy an electric plane even though it's probably better and more
 convenient

 Terry


I'm with you on that.  I always liked the 120 to 140 sized birds, as well
as the old .60 powered birds.  It was a hard adjustment to make from the
old style to the FAI style.  I think the FAI style pattern is prettier than
the old style, but the old style birds were fun to fly too.

Electric airplanes never did anything for me.

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[Emc-users] Merry Christmas

2014-12-24 Thread Todd Zuercher
Merry Christmas to every one out there in LinuxCNC land! 

Now stop playing with your toys and go spend some time with your families. 

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Re: [Emc-users] Merry Christmas

2014-12-24 Thread Pete Matos
And to you as well... MERRY CHRISTMAS and Happy New Year to all my LinuxCNC
friends!!  Peace, prosperity, and happiest wishes from our family to all of
yours.



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Re: [Emc-users] Merry Christmas

2014-12-24 Thread alex chiosso
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of the great LinuxCNC community
people.
Greetings from Italy.

Alex
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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Robert Ash
I have a good relationship with a salvage man here and would like to see an 
image of this motor. I may have missed it if posted before.  If I can recognize 
it I can pull one for my own education. I get treadmill motors with drives as 
well as other drive train parts from him very reasonably. 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Merry Christmas

2014-12-24 Thread Jon Elson
On 12/24/2014 11:57 AM, alex chiosso wrote:
 Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of the great LinuxCNC community
 people.

Just got back home from an experiment on Dec 24th!  They 
ALWAYS seem to schedule
these things like that!

Seasons greetings to all the wonderful people who have 
created LinuxCNC and
used it, and I wish a happy new year with even greater 
developments to come.

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Re: [Emc-users] Merry Christmas

2014-12-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 24 December 2014 17:38:43 Jon Elson did opine
And Gene did reply:
 On 12/24/2014 11:57 AM, alex chiosso wrote:
  Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all of the great LinuxCNC
  community people.
 
 Just got back home from an experiment on Dec 24th!  They
 ALWAYS seem to schedule
 these things like that!
 
 Seasons greetings to all the wonderful people who have
 created LinuxCNC and
 used it, and I wish a happy new year with even greater
 developments to come.
 
 Jon

I'll second that Jon.  Things would appear to be looking up.  Many thanks 
to all who have contributed, have a Merry Christmas tomorrow with friends 
and family.  And here's wishes that 2015 is even better for all of us, and 
you can write a check for that 90 foot yacht you've been eying for years.  
As long as it has rod holders enough for the guests. I've been told that 
He doesn't charge you for the time you spend fishing. That might even 
explain why I am still here!

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Re: [Emc-users] ot: small drilling

2014-12-24 Thread Pete Matos
Do a Google search for Sensitive drilling attachment. They are available
and there are also lots of DIY plans to build one. It is rather simple
really just a bearing and sleeved guide setup. You might be able to cobble
one up from scrap supplies if you are clever. Good luck and Merry
Christmas.


On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 11:22 AM, kqt4a...@gmail.com wrote:

 I was watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkqnTBbJwo and about 10:00
 minutes in he is using a neat little drilling fixture. I found them on
 Enco, http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INPDFF?P...MITEM=290-1291, but they are
 a bit pricey for my needs. I had the brain fart of merging the Enco
 Interstate
 adapter, #29207003, and
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Collet-C...item2ed8af4913. Is this a total
 waste of time? Is there such a thing as a 0JT reamer?




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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 12/24/2014 11:42 AM, Robert Ash wrote:
 I have a good relationship with a salvage man here and would like to see an 
 image of this motor. I may have missed it if posted before.  If I can 
 recognize it I can pull one for my own education. I get treadmill motors with 
 drives as well as other drive train parts from him very reasonably.

My brain is still going *doink* over the concept of a 17,000 RPM motor 
in a washing machine. The motor and gearbox would need to have some 
major acoustic engineering to not drive all the cats and dogs crazy.


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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 12/24/2014 04:53 PM, Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 On 12/24/2014 11:42 AM, Robert Ash wrote:
 I have a good relationship with a salvage man here and would like
 to see an image of this motor. I may have missed it if posted
 before.  If I can recognize it I can pull one for my own education.
 I get treadmill motors with drives as well as other drive train
 parts from him very reasonably.

Here is my version:
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/wash_motor/wash_motor_side.jpg
http://www.wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/wash_motor/wash_motor_plate.jpg

 My brain is still going *doink* over the concept of a 17,000 RPM
 motor in a washing machine. The motor and gearbox would need to have
 some major acoustic engineering to not drive all the cats and dogs
 crazy.

I assume there is a long belt that goes all the way around the drum for 
a washer or dryer and there is no gearbox. My motor ran very quietly on 
the bench. I have cut the arms off and turned the stubs down to the 
motor's OD, so it looks like a proper motor now. I just need to figure 
out what to use it on.

Andy's version is here:
https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542?pid=5832689638364145858oid=108164504656404380542

https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5747722155741347649/6047572913175439346?pid=6047572913175439346oid=108164504656404380542

I saw this while I was there:
https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5951817748876519665

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[Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Roland Jollivet
Why a gearbox?

The shaft is about 20mm OD
The drum is about 450 OD
So a ratio of 20/450 gives a drum speed of ~ 755RPM using a single belt.

The usual drum speed-high is about 800RPM
New machines have drum speeds of 1000RPM

Regards
Roland


On 25 December 2014 at 02:53, Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On 12/24/2014 11:42 AM, Robert Ash wrote:
  I have a good relationship with a salvage man here and would like to see
 an image of this motor. I may have missed it if posted before.  If I can
 recognize it I can pull one for my own education. I get treadmill motors
 with drives as well as other drive train parts from him very reasonably.

 My brain is still going *doink* over the concept of a 17,000 RPM motor
 in a washing machine. The motor and gearbox would need to have some
 major acoustic engineering to not drive all the cats and dogs crazy.


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Re: [Emc-users] 3 phase washing machine motor

2014-12-24 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 12/24/2014 6:33 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote:

 Andy's version is here:
 https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542?pid=5832689638364145858oid=108164504656404380542

 https://plus.google.com/photos/108164504656404380542/albums/5747722155741347649/6047572913175439346?pid=6047572913175439346oid=108164504656404380542

Large diameter stepper motor. I've seen those used for wind generators 
and even a couple directly coupled to the screws on a knee mill. Stuck 
up above the table so that would limit work from hanging off the table 
on the front and one end.


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