[Emc-users] Found your belt dimensions Re: micro-v belts, smaller

2015-05-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
Have a look at 
http://beltpalace.com/heavy-duty-belts-poly-v-ribbed--j-section.html

Says they have a limited selection online, call for more info.

After some more digging, what you need is a 360mm, J section, 3 rib belt 
AKA a 360J3.

$4.57 usually in stock here
http://www.industrialzone.com/369806-gates-360j3.html?gclid=CK-NvfbxpMUCFQiDfgodcoMAFA

80 to 1000 mm, how many ribs do you want?
http://www.beltsforanything.com/site59.php

Dimensions for J section, also H and K which are a bit smaller.
http://www.torquetrans.com/custom-multi-ribbed

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Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box

2015-05-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 5/2/2015 6:50 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote:

 Not sure if this is the latest version, but have you run an eye over the
 things to check here?:

 http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TroubleShooting#Checking_the_RealTime_subsystem

 That pcspkr is sufficiently vague to make one wonder.

PC Speaker? The thing that goes beep, or if you're a 1980's DOS game 
programmer it goes like this 
http://www.oldskool.org/sound/pc/examples/Turbo_Outrun/speaker1.mp3


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Re: [Emc-users] charge pump start at Axis startup (if no Estop)

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Easterday
Oops, had iocontrol.0.user-enable-out commented out in my flailing about with 
the config yesterday….nevermind
-Tom

 On May 2, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com 
 mailto:s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The iocontrol manpage says:
 
   iocontrol.0.user-enable-out
  (Bit, Out) FALSE when an internal estop condition exists
 
 Experimenting with 2.7.0~pre6 here shows that user-enable-out follows
 the E-stop button in Axis, which is what i think you want.


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[Emc-users] 8 rotary table indexing chart

2015-05-03 Thread richshoop
I bought a no name 8 rotary table and found that the Vertex DP-3 index plate 
set fits perfectly. After looking on the web for several hours for an indexing 
chart, to no avail. I did one myself. The newer index plate set allows 
divisions up to 100 without any missing values. 

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3. My crashomatic lathe box (Gene Heskett) 
4. Re: micro-v belts, smaller (Gene Heskett) 
5. Re: Computer crashing. Re: micro-v belts, smaller (Mark Wendt) 
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From: Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net 
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On 01.05.15 05:55, Gene Heskett wrote: 
 If the larger pulley is 70mm, thats nominally 110mm of wrap, and the 
 smaller pulley is 40mm, thats 62mm of belt wrapped, and the shafts are 
 100mm apart, I'd have 110+62+200=372 to 380mm of belt needed. The 
 dis-similar sizes will of course give more wrap length on the larger 
 pulley and less on tha smaller pulley, so to be dead on I'd better look 
 it up in the Handbook. OTOH, thats what the pivoting motor mount is for 
 anyway. :) 

Gene, 

If you need 380 mm, but 600 mm is the shortest generally available, 
is there room for a pair of idler pulleys off to the side, making the 
whole belt path resemble a boomerang? The boomerang arms would be 
significantly less than 15 cm (6) with 60 cm (2') belt length, so it 
wouldn't take up a lot of room. (The outer idler would be larger than 
the inner, to avoid belt fouling.) Might need a new belt cover if it's 
on top of the minimill, though. 

There's probably no belt length calculator for that scenario, but four 
cardboard wheels cut from a beer carton, and a bit of string, ought to 
suffice for non-computer modelling, I figure. 

If you find a good price on poly-v belts of either length, please post 
the link. It might help me start on a project still on the back burner. 
(There's a few of those.) 

Erik 



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Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 05:52:35 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] micro-v belts, smaller 
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On Saturday 02 May 2015 05:30:56 Erik Christiansen wrote: 
 On 01.05.15 05:55, Gene Heskett wrote: 
  If the larger pulley is 70mm, thats nominally 110mm of wrap, and the 
  smaller pulley is 40mm, thats 62mm of belt wrapped, and the shafts 
  are 100mm apart, I'd have 110+62+200=372 to 380mm of belt needed. 
  The dis-similar sizes will of course give more wrap length on the 
  larger pulley and less on tha smaller pulley, so to be dead on I'd 
  better look it up in the Handbook. OTOH, thats what the pivoting 
  motor mount is for anyway. :) 
 
 Gene, 
 
 If you need 380 mm, but 600 mm is the shortest generally available, 
 is there room for a pair of idler pulleys off to the side, making the 
 whole belt path resemble a boomerang? The boomerang arms would be 
 significantly less than 15 cm (6) with 60 cm (2') belt length, so it 
 wouldn't take up a lot of room. (The outer idler would be larger than 
 the inner, to avoid belt fouling.) Might need a new belt cover if it's 
 on top of the minimill, though. 
 
 There's probably no belt length calculator for that scenario, but four 
 cardboard wheels cut from a beer carton, and a bit of string, ought to 
 suffice for non-computer modelling, I figure. 
 
 If you find a good price on poly-v belts of either length, please post 
 the link. It might help me start on a project still on the back 
 burner. (There's a few of those.) 
 
 Erik 

I expect I will, Erik. I do tend to report progress as you have 
observed. 

I just woke up with another thought about the crashing. Something in 
that install, same install cd was used, is tickling the drive led at 
about 1.5 second intervals. The 

Re: [Emc-users] lathe spindle motor accel/decel recommendations

2015-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2015 01:48 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:
 I am retrofitting an EMCO 120P lathe with new controls.  It has a spindle 
 encoder so will do threading/tapping, etc.  The 3HP Black Max motor and GS2 
 vfd combination (with braking resistor) can drive it fwd/rev 0-3500 rpm.  It 
 can accelerate from zero to full speed, or decelerate from full speed to 
 stop, in 0.1 - 60 seconds depending on settings (0.1 seconds is quite 
 exciting :-O).  I am wondering what recommendations folks have for the 
 accel/decel settings that are reasonable to use.   At the lowest settings 
 even small transitions in speed can be felt/heard so I assume having abrupt 
 parameters isn’t really helpful but I don’t have a feel for what is.

If you want to do rigid tapping, you need to select a 
spindle speed change rate that will allow the Z axis to 
follow the change in speed.  You can always set the VFD to 
do it faster, and then use a HAL component to make the speed 
change more gradual.  The relationship between spindle 
reverse and Z axis following is, of course, scaled by the 
thread pitch!
So, fine pitch threads can be done with more abrupt speed 
changes that coarse ones.

I've got something like 0.7 second speed ramp selected in 
the VFD, but have something a little slower set in the hal 
files.
I used the lowpass component, but the limit component would 
also be able to do this.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] 8 rotary table indexing chart

2015-05-03 Thread jrmitchellj .
Did you happen to check the Machinery Handbook for the tables?

Ray

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On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:15 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote:

 I bought a no name 8 rotary table and found that the Vertex DP-3 index
 plate set fits perfectly. After looking on the web for several hours for an
 indexing chart, to no avail. I did one myself. The newer index plate set
 allows divisions up to 100 without any missing values.

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 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 19:30:56 +1000
 From: Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] micro-v belts, smaller
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 On 01.05.15 05:55, Gene Heskett wrote:
  If the larger pulley is 70mm, thats nominally 110mm of wrap, and the
  smaller pulley is 40mm, thats 62mm of belt wrapped, and the shafts are
  100mm apart, I'd have 110+62+200=372 to 380mm of belt needed. The
  dis-similar sizes will of course give more wrap length on the larger
  pulley and less on tha smaller pulley, so to be dead on I'd better look
  it up in the Handbook. OTOH, thats what the pivoting motor mount is for
  anyway. :)

 Gene,

 If you need 380 mm, but 600 mm is the shortest generally available,
 is there room for a pair of idler pulleys off to the side, making the
 whole belt path resemble a boomerang? The boomerang arms would be
 significantly less than 15 cm (6) with 60 cm (2') belt length, so it
 wouldn't take up a lot of room. (The outer idler would be larger than
 the inner, to avoid belt fouling.) Might need a new belt cover if it's
 on top of the minimill, though.

 There's probably no belt length calculator for that scenario, but four
 cardboard wheels cut from a beer carton, and a bit of string, ought to
 suffice for non-computer modelling, I figure.

 If you find a good price on poly-v belts of either length, please post
 the link. It might help me start on a project still on the back burner.
 (There's a few of those.)

 Erik



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 Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 05:52:35 -0400
 From: Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] micro-v belts, smaller
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Message-ID: 201505020552.35243.ghesk...@wdtv.com
 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1

 On Saturday 02 May 2015 05:30:56 Erik Christiansen wrote:
  On 01.05.15 05:55, Gene Heskett wrote:
   If the larger pulley is 70mm, thats nominally 110mm of wrap, and the
   smaller pulley is 40mm, thats 62mm of belt wrapped, and the shafts
   are 100mm apart, I'd have 110+62+200=372 to 380mm of belt needed.
   The dis-similar sizes will of course give more wrap length on the
   larger pulley and less on tha smaller pulley, so to be dead on I'd
   better look it up in the Handbook. OTOH, thats what the pivoting
   motor mount is for anyway. :)
 
  Gene,
 
  If you need 380 mm, but 600 mm is the shortest generally available,
  is there room for a pair of idler pulleys off to the side, making the
  whole belt path resemble a boomerang? The boomerang arms would be
  significantly less than 15 cm (6) with 60 cm (2') belt length, so it
  wouldn't take up a lot of room. (The outer idler would be larger than
  the inner, to avoid belt fouling.) Might need a new belt cover if it's
  on top of the minimill, though.
 
  There's 

Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 May 2015 20:51:56 Gene Heskett wrote:
 On Saturday 02 May 2015 19:58:00 Gene Heskett wrote:

 Chris Radek wanted me to run memtest+ on that box overnight.

 I just looked at /boot/grun/grub.cfg and the choice does exest in that
 file.

And I'm tired s/grun/grub

 So, ok, I'll byte.  What is the magic keyboard incantation that will
 allow the grub boot menu to be seen?  It goes sailing right on by it.

 Thats still a 10.94-4 LTS install, running LCNC 2.6.7.

Likewise 10.04-4 LTS.

 Thanks.

 Cheers, Gene Heskett

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[Emc-users] 7/G8 is driving me up a wall.

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings;

Someone on irc said touchoff gives a choice when you have entered the 
first number.  Not on 2.6.7, the only thing it says is radius, so I have 
to keep a pocket calc, to do a / 2. on the size the caliper reads 
for the actual touchoff data entry. IOW, it takes radius inputs only.  
Putting X in diameter mode changes nothing in re this.

It seems to me I ought to be able to enter the diameter if I am running 
in that mode, or the radius if running in that mode.  But touch off, and 
the dro which does follow the touch off if you enter radius,it almost 
works.

I say almost, but the ending small end diameter is well oversized.
The scale factor on this x axis has been tested and verified several 
times.  But starting at 38mm diameter, and ending at 22.mm in 
diameter, the one cut I did today without it crashing, using a 

while [#_x_tmp gt #_x_end] (where #_x_end = 22.00mm)

ended normlly at about 25.75mm in diameter, with half the expected 3/4 a 
foot taper.

So somethings all aglay.  And fighting with a touchoff that demands a 
radius regardless of the G7/G8 mode set is a prime distraction as it 
derails any train of analytical thought one might have when looking for 
the real problem. Frustrating even.

Thanks Guys.

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Re: [Emc-users] lathe spindle motor accel/decel recommendations

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Easterday


 On May 3, 2015, at 5:21 PM, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote:
 
 If you want to do rigid tapping, you need to select a 
 spindle speed change rate that will allow the Z axis to 
 follow the change in speed.  You can always set the VFD to 
 do it faster, and then use a HAL component to make the speed 
 change more gradual.  The relationship between spindle 
 reverse and Z axis following is, of course, scaled by the 
 thread pitch!
 So, fine pitch threads can be done with more abrupt speed 
 changes that coarse ones.
 
 I've got something like 0.7 second speed ramp selected in 
 the VFD, but have something a little slower set in the hal 
 files.
 I used the lowpass component, but the limit component would 
 also be able to do this.

Thanks Jon.  So you change the value in Hal depending on the threads you want 
to cut? Or you just have a setting that can do either and may not be as fast as 
possible for high thread count?
-Tom
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Re: [Emc-users] 8 Rotary Table Index Chart

2015-05-03 Thread richshoop
The FIRST place I looked. Since the item does not have the standard 40:1 ratio, 
the chart in my 22nd Edition did not have what I was looking for. I did a very 
nice two pager in Word, have to find out how to upload it correctly. Sorry 
about the delay. 

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On 05/03/2015 01:48 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: 
 I am retrofitting an EMCO 120P lathe with new controls. It has a spindle 
 encoder so will do threading/tapping, etc. The 3HP Black Max motor and GS2 
 vfd combination (with braking resistor) can drive it fwd/rev 0-3500 rpm. It 
 can accelerate from zero to full speed, or decelerate from full speed to 
 stop, in 0.1 - 60 seconds depending on settings (0.1 seconds is quite 
 exciting :-O). I am wondering what recommendations folks have for the 
 accel/decel settings that are reasonable to use. At the lowest settings even 
 small transitions in speed can be felt/heard so I assume having abrupt 
 parameters isn?t really helpful but I don?t have a feel for what is. 
 
If you want to do rigid tapping, you need to select a 
spindle speed change rate that will allow the Z axis to 
follow the change in speed. You can always set the VFD to 
do it faster, and then use a HAL component to make the speed 
change more gradual. The relationship between spindle 
reverse and Z axis following is, of course, scaled by the 
thread pitch! 
So, fine pitch threads can be done with more abrupt speed 
changes that coarse ones. 

I've got something like 0.7 second speed ramp selected in 
the VFD, but have something a little slower set in the hal 
files. 
I used the lowpass component, but the limit component would 
also be able to do this. 

Jon 



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Did you happen to check the Machinery Handbook for the tables? 

Ray 

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On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 2:15 PM, richsh...@comcast.net wrote: 

 I bought a no name 8 rotary table and found that the Vertex DP-3 index 
 plate set fits perfectly. After looking on the web for several hours for an 
 indexing chart, to no avail. I did one myself. The newer index plate set 
 allows divisions up to 100 without any missing values. 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] My crashomatic lathe box, update, sorta

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 02 May 2015 19:58:00 Gene Heskett wrote:

Chris Radek wanted me to run memtest+ on that box overnight.

I just looked at /boot/grun/grub.cfg and the choice does exest in that 
file.

So, ok, I'll byte.  What is the magic keyboard incantation that will  
allow the grub boot menu to be seen?  It goes sailing right on by it.

Thats still a 10.94-4 LTS install, running LCNC 2.6.7.

Thanks.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] lathe spindle motor accel/decel recommendations

2015-05-03 Thread Jon Elson
On 05/03/2015 08:32 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:

 Thanks Jon.  So you change the value in Hal depending on the threads you want 
 to cut? Or you just have a setting that can do either and may not be as fast 
 as possible for high thread count?

Oh, no, certainly not!  I chose some sane values that would 
allow fairly fast spin-up/spin-down times, and then have to 
remember that coarse threads need to be done at somewhat 
lower RPM than fine ones.  This actually works out quite 
well.  I can do 4-40 threads at 1000 RPM, which is quite 
cool, and gives insane tap life.  I have never, to my 
knowledge, worn out a 4-40 tap!  I will use it for thousands 
of holes, and then break it due to a setup error.

I use these combo drill-taps that run about $8 each, and 
allow ne to do essentially a spot-drill-tap operation 
without a toolchange.

In general, the coarser thread pitches accompany larger tap 
diameters, so tapping at 500 RPM for a 1/4 tap would likely 
be reasonable, too.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] Found your belt dimensions Re: micro-v belts, smaller

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett


On Sunday 03 May 2015 02:05:35 Gregg Eshelman wrote:
 Have a look at
 http://beltpalace.com/heavy-duty-belts-poly-v-ribbed--j-section.html

 Says they have a limited selection online, call for more info.

 After some more digging, what you need is a 360mm, J section, 3 rib
 belt AKA a 360J3.

 $4.57 usually in stock here
 http://www.industrialzone.com/369806-gates-360j3.html?gclid=CK-NvfbxpM
UCFQiDfgodcoMAFA

 80 to 1000 mm, how many ribs do you want?
 http://www.beltsforanything.com/site59.php

 Dimensions for J section, also H and K which are a bit smaller.
 http://www.torquetrans.com/custom-multi-ribbed

Bookmarked  printed, just what doc Gene ordered, thank you very much 
Gregg.  Now, I have 1/2 of pulley width for each pulley section.  From 
those drawings, that infers that in 1/2 I'd have room for 5 ribs of 
a j belt.  That would be 15/32 wide, or in metric, 11.90625mm wide.  
That would have sharp outer pulley edges though, so I am inclined to 
make and get the 4 rib versions leaving a relatively wide outer edge.

The next consideration would be the smaller pulleys reduced radii, and 
belt heating when its wrapped around a 35mm pulley.  Not to mention 
spindle bearing heating.  When in the step up mode 5k revs is going to 
be close to 10k revs on the smaller pulley  bearings. I assume that has 
to generate additional heat in the bearings. With the diameter of my 
starter steel, the flange for the draw and jack bolts is not going to 
leave enough real estate, determined by the results yesterday.  So I'll 
have to find larger OD piece of shafting for the raw starter. This one 
now has too big a center hole drilled for a taperlock to fit an 8mm 
motor shaft I think as the last drill before I tore up the wiring was a 
hair under 10mm.  So that one will not be salvageable for the motors 
hub.  There is however, more steel sticking out of the chuck. I just 
need to make even more swarf. :)

I should have a bigger piece in the midden heap on the floor under the 
shelf that holds the keyboard etc for the mill.  If not, I know exactly 
where to go  get it. But it is about a 100 mile round trip, over some 
roads that would break a snakes back.  This is after all, West Virginia. 
We have a surplus of hills they built the roads around.

Thanks Gregg.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[Emc-users] Machine limits question

2015-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all;

Is there now, a gcode mode command that when invoked, would cause a loop to 
iterate to the next pass when a machine limit has been hit?

I am out of X backout trying to do this taperlock in a 39mm diameter steel 
round.

I am attempting to scale both motions by counting passes so that by the time 
the tool is clear, that pass will only move that far, which will just barely 
keep it inside the x limit, which is about .1mm from tripping the switch I use 
for homeing, which in turn is about .1mm from the mechanical limit.

But if there is such a mode, it will save me from writing the code to scale the 
motions to keep it inside its working envelope.  My toy lathe of course...

If it isn't available, maybe this could be a feature request?

I'd get my coat now, but its nicely warmed up, so I guess I'll just go write 
some scaling code. ;-)

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[Emc-users] lathe spindle motor accel/decel recommendations

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Easterday
I am retrofitting an EMCO 120P lathe with new controls.  It has a spindle 
encoder so will do threading/tapping, etc.  The 3HP Black Max motor and GS2 vfd 
combination (with braking resistor) can drive it fwd/rev 0-3500 rpm.  It can 
accelerate from zero to full speed, or decelerate from full speed to stop, in 
0.1 - 60 seconds depending on settings (0.1 seconds is quite exciting :-O).  I 
am wondering what recommendations folks have for the accel/decel settings that 
are reasonable to use.   At the lowest settings even small transitions in speed 
can be felt/heard so I assume having abrupt parameters isn’t really helpful but 
I don’t have a feel for what is. 
Thanks,
-Tom


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Re: [Emc-users] charge pump start at Axis startup (if no Estop)

2015-05-03 Thread Tom Easterday

 On May 2, 2015, at 6:45 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky s...@highlab.com wrote:
 The iocontrol manpage says:
 
   iocontrol.0.user-enable-out
  (Bit, Out) FALSE when an internal estop condition exists
 
 Experimenting with 2.7.0~pre6 here shows that user-enable-out follows
 the E-stop button in Axis, which is what i think you want.

This is not the case on my machine for some reason.   
iocontrol.0.user-enable-out does not follow my estop button.  My estop button 
does cause Axis’ estop button to toggle, as it should.  I do see that 
iocontrol.0.emc-enable-in does follow my estop button….
-Tom

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