Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Karlsson & Wang]

> ... They like to "control" the customer
> even when they don't know what they are doing.

I think an old sales person trick is to first check your "budget" or how much 
money you have available to spend then they find the most expensive you are 
likely to buy.

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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Rafael]

Dave,

On 10/17/2015 01:20 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
>
> I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and
> also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the
> help of a remote video camera.
>
> One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device
> I use.   They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was
> a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were
> "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection.
> I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is
> not a problem.   The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is
> considered very cheap.  $600 would not be out of line if it can do what
> we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in
> a box mounted outside.
>
> I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server at the remote site.

That's what I would put there. Get a small box PC, install Linux and 
setup firewall and ssh for connections from the internet. You can limit 
access from static IPs, etc.

Searching for "minibox PC" or "miniITX PC" returns pages of small 
fanless computers with 2 Eth ports you can use to install Linux and 
setup routing. I see Intel® NUC are gaining popularity but I haven't 
seen one with 2 Eth ports yet. You probably need to use USB/eth 
converter to make a router.

There is an excellent VPN like solution, shuttle. We use that in small 
company for remote connections to internal networks. As long as you can 
resolve the internal hostnames, or use IPs instead, you can connect to 
that network with any protocol. Network number needs to be different 
than what you have on LAN you are connecting from. I use that to connect 
to Cisco UCS Management (GUI) console and ssh to KVM and Openstack 
servers for example.

Not sure what network speed you need but you can make very cheap router 
with SBCs like Raspberry Pi 
http://qcktech.blogspot.com/2012/08/raspberry-pi-as-router.html

However, assuming you need this for industrial environment you would be 
better of with using small computers made for industrial use. Plenty of 
those around.

> A GSM solution with AT would be ideal if they have sufficient coverage
> since swapping out the 4G router would only require swapping the SIM
> card instead of going through the ridiculous device activation routine
> that Sprint and Verizon requires.

Problem with a dedicated router in this case is that it's a dedicated 
box and not flexible enough for your use. With Linux box you can setup 
other things like active monitoring the environment (temp, light, 
switches, etc.) and perhaps send alerts in case of PLC related issues.

>
> I think that AT will be my next call.  I've pretty much run out of
> patience with Sprint.

Sprint was terrible for me, dropping or no service at home and in 
office. People in their shop did not care. I had to go through PUC to 
get out of lock-in contract to a better provider.

> Thanks,
>
> Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Dave Cole]

Perhaps I didn't make it clear what is screwing me up technically.  A 
few years ago Sprint, Verizon and others would allow incoming 
connections to a cell phone modem. They no longer
allow that unless they specifically setup the account to allow that.   
So you can't buy a USB 4G dongle, hotspot, etc and establish a remote 
connection to it.By default all incoming connections are 
firewalled.  That used to be possible with a generic cell phone 
account.  I did it 3-4 years ago with a Verizon and Sprint have both 
blocked remote connections to cell devices.Sprint really clamped 
down on that recently after a hacker proved that he could remotely 
control a Chrysler car via the cell phone link to the built in cell 
system (engineered in conjunction with Sprint).Sprint at first 
denied that they were doing that but after I gave them the IP address 
and location of the router that was blocking port requests they fessed 
up.I have since been told by Netgear that Sprint implements this in 
their 4G devices by programming the sims in a certain way.A "Mobile 
Originated" Sim is the standard issue for a Sprint 4G device/phone.
If they issue a "Mobile Terminated" sim for the device then that device 
can be setup to allow incoming connections.

The suggestion to look at a cloud service has me thinking. Perhaps I 
should forget about the cell companies cooperating and setup each remote 
site as a client and have it maintain a connection to a server.  Once a 
VPN tunnel is established I think we can remotely control whatever 
devices are on the client end of the VPN connection also.   I wonder how 
much data is required to keep a VPN tunnel alive on a cell network?  I 
think we should test that.

I know that Teamviewer will work to a remotely connected cell network 
connected device.   So it appears that this should be possible via a 
central server.

Adding a Linux box as Rafael mentioned could simplify some of this but 
it sure would be nice to not have another computer to maintain.

Hmmm  this is sort of what I was thinking but they actually using 
Teamviewers VPN!
http://superuser.com/questions/402223/how-to-route-internet-connection-through-teamviewers-vpn

Thanks for the ideas guys..

Dave

On 10/18/2015 4:39 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:
> This is why you should buy/operate your own equipment and just buy a data 
> plan for the modem, IMHO.
> -Tom
>
>> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks guys.
>>
>> When I boil it all down, the real problem I am having is dealing with
>> the cell phone companies.They like to "control" the customer
>> even when they don't know what they are doing.
>>
>> I'm crossing Sprint off my list.   Next up is AT   I've got another
>> guy chasing solutions with Verizon, which is probably best since I have
>> some latent hate for Verizon
>> due to past issues.
>>
>> Jeff Epler turned me onto Ting a few years ago (very good advice),
>> unfortunately Sprint has Ting in handcuffs and won't let them expand
>> into industrial data markets.
>> Like I said, Sprint is big into controlling their customer, even if it
>> is their own MVNO like Ting.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/2015 6:40 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
>>> if you need real encryption, put in a netscreen 5 on each end and get a
>>> signed certificate for them.  When working for IT at a bank, we used them
>>> for our wire transfers for international wires,  It can be hard core
>>> encryption.  Once set up, it is dead easy to use.  Netscreen 5 refurb is
>>> $125 or so on Amazon.  New $600.  Owned by Juniper Networks now days.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>>>
 i used sprint for primary internet for a while.  Last few years I have
 Exede satellite feed.  it is about $100/mo for 15GB, and $10/G additional
 use,  Other plans are available.  It is pretty solid.  I'd still go for a
 wired feed to keep costs down. (No DSL or cable available)

 On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Dave Cole
 wrote:

> I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and
> also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the
> help of a remote video camera.
>
> One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device
> I use.   They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was
> a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were
> "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection.
> I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is
> not a problem.   The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is
> considered very cheap.  $600 would not be out of line if it can do what
> we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in
> a box mounted outside.
>
> I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server 

Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

[Andy Evans]

Gene, have you ever looked into

http://www.harveytool.com/

My go-to for those types of cutters.  Also, have you considered 
contouring your outside radius with a ball cutter and small stepovers?

Andy Evans
Evans Precision Tooling Incorporated

On 10/18/2015 1:06 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote:
> And it turns out when googling, that part number is a 1/16" radius bit,
> no damned wonder its not  doing the job!  Amazon miss-described it.
> Thats twice they've bit my ass in the last month.
>
> And the only hit I can get on a 1/8" radius pointed round over is at
> Carbide Processors, at $108 a copy that is un-obtainium personified!
>
> Does anyone else have better google foo than that?
>
> I have some diamond burrs for a dremel. I might be able to make these 3
> $13 versions into a more pleasing profile on the toy mill.


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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Tom Easterday]

This is why you should buy/operate your own equipment and just buy a data plan 
for the modem, IMHO.
-Tom

> On Oct 18, 2015, at 4:25 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> Thanks guys.
> 
> When I boil it all down, the real problem I am having is dealing with 
> the cell phone companies.They like to "control" the customer
> even when they don't know what they are doing.
> 
> I'm crossing Sprint off my list.   Next up is AT   I've got another 
> guy chasing solutions with Verizon, which is probably best since I have 
> some latent hate for Verizon
> due to past issues.
> 
> Jeff Epler turned me onto Ting a few years ago (very good advice), 
> unfortunately Sprint has Ting in handcuffs and won't let them expand 
> into industrial data markets.
> Like I said, Sprint is big into controlling their customer, even if it 
> is their own MVNO like Ting.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On 10/17/2015 6:40 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
>> if you need real encryption, put in a netscreen 5 on each end and get a
>> signed certificate for them.  When working for IT at a bank, we used them
>> for our wire transfers for international wires,  It can be hard core
>> encryption.  Once set up, it is dead easy to use.  Netscreen 5 refurb is
>> $125 or so on Amazon.  New $600.  Owned by Juniper Networks now days.
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>> 
>>> i used sprint for primary internet for a while.  Last few years I have
>>> Exede satellite feed.  it is about $100/mo for 15GB, and $10/G additional
>>> use,  Other plans are available.  It is pretty solid.  I'd still go for a
>>> wired feed to keep costs down. (No DSL or cable available)
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Dave Cole 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and
 also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the
 help of a remote video camera.
 
 One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device
 I use.   They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was
 a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were
 "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection.
 I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is
 not a problem.   The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is
 considered very cheap.  $600 would not be out of line if it can do what
 we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in
 a box mounted outside.
 
 I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server at the remote site.
 
 A GSM solution with AT would be ideal if they have sufficient coverage
 since swapping out the 4G router would only require swapping the SIM
 card instead of going through the ridiculous device activation routine
 that Sprint and Verizon requires.
 
 I think that AT will be my next call.  I've pretty much run out of
 patience with Sprint.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Dave
 
 On 10/16/2015 11:50 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:
> You didn't say what kind of throughput you need nor what your budget is
 but one option is something like a Cisco RV320 on each end with 4G modems
 attached.  You can see a review of the router here:
> 
 http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/32317-cisco-rv320-dual-gigabit-wan-vpn-router-reviewed?limitstart=0
> There is also a you tube video on configuring the modem:
 http://youtu.be/RXerRGEZFEI
> I recommended the RV180 for a friend's business that needed sts vpn
 (over public internet, not over cellular) and it worked well for him and he
 said it was easy for them to set up and use.
> There are of course other more diy setups using cell phones with
 tethering and using OpenVPN or such on your own processors.  But you have
 to be careful as carriers may try to limit or block always on use of
 tethering and data plans may not fit your requirements.  Or you get some
 cellular wifi hotspots and use them with OpenVPN.
> See:
> 
 http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/30353-how-to-set-up-a-site-to-site-vpn-with-openvpn
>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Dave Cole 
 wrote:
>> Key points - need help with a data cell phone connection to remote
>> equipment via a VPN.
>> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> I'm working with some remotely located equipment and I need to
 establish
>> a comm link to it.
>> 
>> We have decided to go with a cell phone data connection.   We want to
 be
>> able to remotely access this equipment via a "site to site" VPN.
>> This is different than a client/server VPN connection that people
>> oftentimes use to connect back to corporate headquarters for email,
 file
>> sharing etc.
>> 
>> The remote equipment is 

Re: [Emc-users] Mice. The furry ones. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

[linden]

RedBull  Actually it is an Austrian thing it only came to the US and 
Canada relitively recently. The owner has a nice air plane collection in 
Saltzburg in a fancy glass hangar aperently you can go look around at 
the planes for free.


On 15-10-18 09:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 18 October 2015 05:10:21 Gregg Eshelman wrote:
>
>> On 10/17/2015 9:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> These aren't victor traps, and it is chunky, but I haven't tried to
>>> actually trap a hunk under the claw.  If this set fails, I'll stick
>>> a piece of english walnut under the claw & cover it with chunky PB.
>>>
>>> But tonight I need to go dump the plastic rain gauge, its supposedly
>>> freezing here, but the airport temp 20 miles north is 40F.  Figures.
>> Don't bait the traps with Nolan's Cheddar. ;)
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFWZ8MC2cE
> Chuckle, reminder of a Red Bull commercial ;-)  But this is an
> international list, and Red Bull may be a 'Merican thing. Its a
> seriously high caffiene drink folks. IMNSHO an overdose. I tried one
> once, years ago, no sleep, heart pounding 30 bpm faster, walked on the
> ceiling for 2 days. :(
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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Re: [Emc-users] Mice. The furry ones. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

[andy pugh]

On 18 October 2015 at 14:19, Gene Heskett  wrote:
> Red Bull may be a 'Merican thing

No, Red Bull is an Austrian thing.

The reason that cats are obligate carnivores is that they need to eat
meat to get Taurine.
Red Bull contain Taurine (Red Bull is not a drink for Vegetarians).

You can't keep a pet cat on a vegetarian diet. Unless you supplement
the diet with Red Bull.
Who wants to share house with a cat kept on a diet of Sprouts and Red Bull?

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Re: [Emc-users] 2.7.0 is out!

[jrmitchellj .]

Finally got the updates done using synaptic (update manager would not
perform all the updates).
Now I have a latency issue.  The numbers from the latency test are about
30% higher than previously measured on Lucid, but not all that bad (12000ns
on base thread), but i get an RTAPI error on task 1 quite often when
starting Linuxcnc, and if it does start without an error, it gets one
within the first 10 minutes.
This is on a Intel DM510 motherboard that I have been using since late
2011. I have the isolcpus=1 set, and no hyperthreading, as before.
Looking at the system monitor, it looks like all tasks are running on the
first core.  I kinda expected the tasks for LinuxCNC to be running on the
second core.
Is there something I should check, or change?

--J. Ray Mitchell Jr.
jrmitche...@gmail.com
(818)324-7573


The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The
occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion.
As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall
ourselves, and then we shall save our country.*Abraham Lincoln
*, *Annual message
to Congress, December 1, 1862*
*16th president of US (1809 - 1865)*

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Chris Radek  wrote:

> On Sun, Sep 06, 2015 at 05:02:42PM -0700, jrmitchellj . wrote:
> > Still something fishy there.
> > Just checked the repository sources, and they are correct,but still pre2
> is
> > current.
>
> I tested this and installing the updates that are offered worked for
> me, and I get 2.7.0
>
> Say more about exactly what you are doing?
>
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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Dave Cole]

Thanks guys.

When I boil it all down, the real problem I am having is dealing with 
the cell phone companies.They like to "control" the customer
even when they don't know what they are doing.

I'm crossing Sprint off my list.   Next up is AT   I've got another 
guy chasing solutions with Verizon, which is probably best since I have 
some latent hate for Verizon
due to past issues.

Jeff Epler turned me onto Ting a few years ago (very good advice), 
unfortunately Sprint has Ting in handcuffs and won't let them expand 
into industrial data markets.
Like I said, Sprint is big into controlling their customer, even if it 
is their own MVNO like Ting.

Dave



On 10/17/2015 6:40 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
> if you need real encryption, put in a netscreen 5 on each end and get a
> signed certificate for them.  When working for IT at a bank, we used them
> for our wire transfers for international wires,  It can be hard core
> encryption.  Once set up, it is dead easy to use.  Netscreen 5 refurb is
> $125 or so on Amazon.  New $600.  Owned by Juniper Networks now days.
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Jack Coats  wrote:
>
>> i used sprint for primary internet for a while.  Last few years I have
>> Exede satellite feed.  it is about $100/mo for 15GB, and $10/G additional
>> use,  Other plans are available.  It is pretty solid.  I'd still go for a
>> wired feed to keep costs down. (No DSL or cable available)
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Dave Cole 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and
>>> also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the
>>> help of a remote video camera.
>>>
>>> One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device
>>> I use.   They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was
>>> a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were
>>> "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection.
>>> I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is
>>> not a problem.   The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is
>>> considered very cheap.  $600 would not be out of line if it can do what
>>> we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in
>>> a box mounted outside.
>>>
>>> I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server at the remote site.
>>>
>>> A GSM solution with AT would be ideal if they have sufficient coverage
>>> since swapping out the 4G router would only require swapping the SIM
>>> card instead of going through the ridiculous device activation routine
>>> that Sprint and Verizon requires.
>>>
>>> I think that AT will be my next call.  I've pretty much run out of
>>> patience with Sprint.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>> On 10/16/2015 11:50 PM, Tom Easterday wrote:
 You didn't say what kind of throughput you need nor what your budget is
>>> but one option is something like a Cisco RV320 on each end with 4G modems
>>> attached.  You can see a review of the router here:

>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/32317-cisco-rv320-dual-gigabit-wan-vpn-router-reviewed?limitstart=0
 There is also a you tube video on configuring the modem:
>>> http://youtu.be/RXerRGEZFEI
 I recommended the RV180 for a friend's business that needed sts vpn
>>> (over public internet, not over cellular) and it worked well for him and he
>>> said it was easy for them to set up and use.
 There are of course other more diy setups using cell phones with
>>> tethering and using OpenVPN or such on your own processors.  But you have
>>> to be careful as carriers may try to limit or block always on use of
>>> tethering and data plans may not fit your requirements.  Or you get some
>>> cellular wifi hotspots and use them with OpenVPN.
 See:

>>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/30353-how-to-set-up-a-site-to-site-vpn-with-openvpn
> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Dave Cole 
>>> wrote:
> Key points - need help with a data cell phone connection to remote
> equipment via a VPN.
>
> Guys,
>
> I'm working with some remotely located equipment and I need to
>>> establish
> a comm link to it.
>
> We have decided to go with a cell phone data connection.   We want to
>>> be
> able to remotely access this equipment via a "site to site" VPN.
> This is different than a client/server VPN connection that people
> oftentimes use to connect back to corporate headquarters for email,
>>> file
> sharing etc.
>
> The remote equipment is ethernet based but it is not a generic PC, it's
> a PLC.   So I need the remote cell phone modem/router to do all of the
> work of encrypting the data, establishing the VPN tunnel, etc.  It
>>> needs
> to be a VPN Router with a 4G modem built in that supports a "site to
> site connection" and not just be a 

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 10/17/2015 3:42 PM, Dave Cole wrote:
> That could be a work around for uncooperative cell phone companies, but
> it would make things much more complex.
> I didn't realize that Google has a VPN cloud solution.

If you've ever felt like you've been railroaded by a cell phone company, 
check to see if you are with Sprint.

The name was originally an acronym for Southern Pacific Railroad 
Internal Network Telephony.

SP laid fiber optic lines by all their tracks, to use for train control 
and company voice service. They didn't begin to use all the fiber 
capacity they'd installed and decided to offer PSTN (Public Switched 
Telephone Network) service.

The big telcos tried to block that. The railroad sued, won the suit and 
launched the SPRINT telephone company. That's what pushed AT and the 
others to speed up their installation of fiber optic lines, SPRINT was 
already mostly fiber.


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[Emc-users] Mice. The furry ones. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 10/17/2015 9:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

> These aren't victor traps, and it is chunky, but I haven't tried to
> actually trap a hunk under the claw.  If this set fails, I'll stick a
> piece of english walnut under the claw & cover it with chunky PB.
>
> But tonight I need to go dump the plastic rain gauge, its supposedly
> freezing here, but the airport temp 20 miles north is 40F.  Figures.

Don't bait the traps with Nolan's Cheddar. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFWZ8MC2cE


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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 10/17/2015 3:48 PM, Bruce Layne wrote:

> Caveats:
>
> T-Mobile apparently no longer offers the unlimited data plan for
> phones.  That's a great deal.  The hot spot data plans are much more
> expensive on a per GB basis, but not a deal breaker if you need
> occasional high bandwidth internet service.

Sprint still does. I had a business plan with two Android phones and a 
flip phone. Unlimited data with no slowdown throttling after a certain 
number of gigs like T-Mobile's "unlimited" plans had. Unlimited texts. 
Unlimited minutes outgoing or incoming from ANY other cellphone in the 
USA. 1500 minutes to/from landlines - which includes WiFi calling from a 
cellphone or any other calls that get routed off the cell systems.

Well, my dear mother has a friend in Georgia who likes to talk, a lot. 
The Georgian apparently was using WiFi calling because she has an iPhone 
with a really cheap plan. How much talk? Over 1800 minutes last month. 
Nearly $60 in overage charge.

I upgraded the flip to an Android and changed from the business plan to 
the Unlimited Family Share plan that has no limits of any kind, and it 
will cost less than the plan I had.

Sprint is going away from the 2 year contracts, changing to "leasing" 
the phones where you pay an additional amount each month until it's paid 
off, but you can pay more at any time to lower the monthly charge or pay 
the phone off completely. Dunno why they call it a "lease" when you are 
buying the phone.

The Sprint Customer Care people are much easier to deal with than many 
of them that work at Sprint stores.

My Galaxy S4 SPH-L720T did a faceplant onto a tile floor. Cracked the 
(supposedly almost crack-proof) Gorilla glass and destroyed the display 
and digitizer. Could still receive calls thanks to the real Home button. 
(I NEVER want to own a phone without that feature.)

I bought a used Galaxy S4 SPH-L720 (not Tri-band) off eBay real cheap. 
Local Sprint store said there was no way to activate it because someone 
had tried and failed to change it to another carrier. Rght. Pull the 
other one.

I called Sprint Customer Care, gave the guy the decimal IMEI and he told 
me the dial command to manually start Hand-Free Setup and in a couple of 
minutes it was hooked up. Same thing the store guy could have done.

If you need to copy apps and all your other data between two different 
phones, WonderShare MobileTrans. Samsung Kies or Samsung SmartSwitch 
will only copy text messages, call logs, contacts, lock screen settings 
and other non-app stuff. They can only restore apps to the same phone it 
was backed up from. MobileTrans claims to be able to restore stuff from 
a Kies backup to a different phone but it's limited to the same stuff as 
the Samsung software. Kies will download and install firmware updates.

On my broken phone I was fortunate in that I had USB debugging turned 
on. That enabled me to use ADB (Android Debug Bridge) and Vysor (an 
addon for the Google Chrome web browser) to mirror the phone display to 
my desktop computer and use the mouse on the virtual screen just like 
touching the phone. You need to use the Android SDK manager to download 
the Platform Tools (nothing else from that required) so ADB will be 
setup properly. Open a command prompt where adb.exe is located then 
enter ADB devices. That should run the ADB server daemon and find your 
connected phone. Then Vysor *should* find your phone. (It doesn't work 
with my old Photon Q that I had to switch to while waiting on my 
replacement S4.)


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Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN

[Gregg Eshelman]

On 10/17/2015 4:40 PM, Jack Coats wrote:
> if you need real encryption, put in a netscreen 5 on each end and get a
> signed certificate for them.  When working for IT at a bank, we used them
> for our wire transfers for international wires,  It can be hard core
> encryption.  Once set up, it is dead easy to use.  Netscreen 5 refurb is
> $125 or so on Amazon.  New $600.  Owned by Juniper Networks now days.

Juniper is still around? Wayyy back I used to have a pair of Juniper 
RS232-C concentrators. They had 6 or 8 ports to connect computers or 
other serial devices and one "high speed" port on each that could be 
connected with quite a long cable.

Could not give the things away.

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Re: [Emc-users] a request

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Re: [Emc-users] Mice. The furry ones. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 18 October 2015 05:10:21 Gregg Eshelman wrote:

> On 10/17/2015 9:31 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > These aren't victor traps, and it is chunky, but I haven't tried to
> > actually trap a hunk under the claw.  If this set fails, I'll stick
> > a piece of english walnut under the claw & cover it with chunky PB.
> >
> > But tonight I need to go dump the plastic rain gauge, its supposedly
> > freezing here, but the airport temp 20 miles north is 40F.  Figures.
>
> Don't bait the traps with Nolan's Cheddar. ;)
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFWZ8MC2cE

Chuckle, reminder of a Red Bull commercial ;-)  But this is an 
international list, and Red Bull may be a 'Merican thing. Its a 
seriously high caffiene drink folks. IMNSHO an overdose. I tried one 
once, years ago, no sleep, heart pounding 30 bpm faster, walked on the 
ceiling for 2 days. :(

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: [Emc-users] a request

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 18 October 2015 08:23:34 Farzin Kamangar wrote:

> Dear Sirs,
> I would like to ask you to quit sending me any more emails. I have
> changed my
> area of interest to something other than CNC machines now. Please do
> not send
> me more emails. Thanks
> Farzin Kamangar

This list Farzin, like 99% of them, is self-managed, so you must run your 
browser, and go to the https link at the bottom of this message, and you 
MUST confirm, by simply replying to the unsubscribe message from the 
automated server.  Only that will un-subscribe you.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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[Emc-users] inexpensive router bit suppliers

[richshoop]

Gene: Try Cascade Tool. Also, get a copy of Fine Woodworking magazine and look 
at the advertisments, should help you along the way. 

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1. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 (Gene Heskett) 
2. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 (Gene Heskett) 
3. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 
(Todd Zuercher) 
4. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 
(Todd Zuercher) 
5. Re: [Emc-developers] Off topic question - Need help with 
remote cell phone data connection via site to site VPN 
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Message: 1 
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:31:16 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett  
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
Message-ID: <201510172331.16609.ghesk...@wdtv.com> 
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 

On Saturday 17 October 2015 23:17:40 Jon Elson wrote: 

> On 10/17/2015 09:47 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: 
> > So I went to Shop & Save & got the only re-usable mouse 
> > traps they had, the other choices being sticky pads or 
> > DeCon. Made out of thin galvanized steel these days, a 
> > very very poor design. I've been bending parts around to 
> > make them more sensitive, but so far all I am doing is 
> > furnishing a 2 location daily buffet of peanut butter, 
> 
> Plain peanut butter doesn't work. What you need is chunky. 
> The peanut butter smell attracts them, but you have to embed 
> a chuck of peanut in the claw of the Victor traps with the 
> metal trip part. When they try to dig that chunk of peanut 
> out, then the trap will trip. When I detect mice around, I 
> freshly bait the traps, and usually hear a snap within 20 
> minutes. 
> 
> Jon 
> 
These aren't victor traps, and it is chunky, but I haven't tried to 
actually trap a hunk under the claw. If this set fails, I'll stick a 
piece of english walnut under the claw & cover it with chunky PB. 

But tonight I need to go dump the plastic rain gauge, its supposedly 
freezing here, but the airport temp 20 miles north is 40F. Figures. 

Cheers, Gene Heskett 
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Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2015 23:32:52 -0400 
From: Gene Heskett  
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 
To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
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On Saturday 17 October 2015 23:21:56 Todd Zuercher wrote: 

> Ahh, the "better" mouse trap. You can still get the old fashioned 
> wooden ones. (pretty sure Dollar General usually has them). I like 
> some of the newer wooden ones that have the plastic trigger pad. They 
> are very sensitive sometimes almost too sensitive. (go off when you 
> set them down.) 

I hadn't considered the dollar store. We've a couple of those, out in 
the very low rent districts. Thanks for the reminder. 

> - Original Message - 
> From: "Gene Heskett"  
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net 
> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2015 10:47:43 PM 
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] using tool table offsets with G41 or 42 
> 
> On Saturday 17 October 2015 00:21:32 Gene Heskett wrote: 
> 
> [...] 
> 
> > If tool compensation can really be made to work, it would simplicate 
> > at least 100 LOC out of this program. Already has, but I'm now 
> > adding more stuff to make sure there is turn around room at the ends 
> > of the cut sweeps. But tomorrow is another day. I am pleased with 
> > todays progress. 
> 
> This was that tommorrow. I kept getting closer & closer, but I've 
> come to 3 conclusions. 
> 
> 1. I need a roundover tool with a slightly larger radii, these are 
> 1/8", bought because the 1/4" tool leaves a 1/8" radius cut at an 
> inside corner, and I need perhaps a 5/32 or even a 3/16, but those 
> seem to be made of pure unobtainium. 
> 
> 2. This tool, at 2500 revs, if it does have a sharp point, needs to be 
> fed quite a bit slower than 20 IPM, the tip is just rolling on the 
> wood, 

Re: [Emc-users] Mice. The furry ones. Re: using tool table offsets with G41 or 42

[Peter Blodow]

Gene,
Red Bull is an Austrian Brand, they make it by the railway train 
(literally, I've seen one!) not far from where we live. It contains also 
a lot of taurine. Don't know about the famed and fabulous manpower 
enhancing properties

Peter


Am 18.10.2015 15:19, schrieb Gene Heskett:
> Chuckle, reminder of a Red Bull commercial ;-) But this is an 
> international list, and Red Bull may be a 'Merican thing. Its a 
> seriously high caffiene drink folks. IMNSHO an overdose. I tried one 
> once, years ago, no sleep, heart pounding 30 bpm faster, walked on the 
> ceiling for 2 days. :( Cheers, Gene Heskett 


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[Emc-users] Release: LinuxCNC 2.7.1

[Sebastian Kuzminsky]

The first 2.7 bugfix release is out: 2.7.1

This release fixes a several important bugs, all users are encouraged to
upgrade.  The full changelog is here:

http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Released_2.7.X

Upgrades from 2.7.0 will be automatic, and no config changes are needed.

Many thanks to the users reporting issues with the new 2.7 features, and
of course to the developers who contributed improvements this time around:

* Chris Morley
* Chris Radek
* Dewey Garrett
* Jeff Epler
* John Thornton
* Michael Geszkiewicz
* Moses McKnight
* Norbert Schechner
* Tom Easterday


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