Thanks guys. When I boil it all down, the real problem I am having is dealing with the cell phone companies. They like to "control" the customer even when they don't know what they are doing.
I'm crossing Sprint off my list. Next up is AT&T. I've got another guy chasing solutions with Verizon, which is probably best since I have some latent hate for Verizon due to past issues. Jeff Epler turned me onto Ting a few years ago (very good advice), unfortunately Sprint has Ting in handcuffs and won't let them expand into industrial data markets. Like I said, Sprint is big into controlling their customer, even if it is their own MVNO like Ting. Dave On 10/17/2015 6:40 PM, Jack Coats wrote: > if you need real encryption, put in a netscreen 5 on each end and get a > signed certificate for them. When working for IT at a bank, we used them > for our wire transfers for international wires, It can be hard core > encryption. Once set up, it is dead easy to use. Netscreen 5 refurb is > $125 or so on Amazon. New $600. Owned by Juniper Networks now days. > > On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 5:26 PM, Jack Coats <j...@coats.org> wrote: > >> i used sprint for primary internet for a while. Last few years I have >> Exede satellite feed. it is about $100/mo for 15GB, and $10/G additional >> use, Other plans are available. It is pretty solid. I'd still go for a >> wired feed to keep costs down. (No DSL or cable available) >> >> On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I need a fast connection as we want to be able to do remote video and >>> also do debugging of the PLC control remotely via the comm link with the >>> help of a remote video camera. >>> >>> One problem that I am having is that Sprint wants to control what device >>> I use. They literally offer one device at a time and the last one was >>> a 4G router that only supports VPN Passthrough even though they were >>> "sure" that it would support a site to site VPN connection. >>> I don't want to have two remote routers or boxes in the cabinet. Cost is >>> not a problem. The Netgear 6100D I have used is $200 and that is >>> considered very cheap. $600 would not be out of line if it can do what >>> we want and has a fairly wide temperature range. This device will be in >>> a box mounted outside. >>> >>> I can't use OpenVPN because there is no PC or server at the remote site. >>> >>> A GSM solution with AT&T would be ideal if they have sufficient coverage >>> since swapping out the 4G router would only require swapping the SIM >>> card instead of going through the ridiculous device activation routine >>> that Sprint and Verizon requires. >>> >>> I think that AT&T will be my next call. I've pretty much run out of >>> patience with Sprint. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> On 10/16/2015 11:50 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: >>>> You didn't say what kind of throughput you need nor what your budget is >>> but one option is something like a Cisco RV320 on each end with 4G modems >>> attached. You can see a review of the router here: >>>> >>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/lanwan-reviews/32317-cisco-rv320-dual-gigabit-wan-vpn-router-reviewed?limitstart=0 >>>> There is also a you tube video on configuring the modem: >>> http://youtu.be/RXerRGEZFEI >>>> I recommended the RV180 for a friend's business that needed sts vpn >>> (over public internet, not over cellular) and it worked well for him and he >>> said it was easy for them to set up and use. >>>> There are of course other more diy setups using cell phones with >>> tethering and using OpenVPN or such on your own processors. But you have >>> to be careful as carriers may try to limit or block always on use of >>> tethering and data plans may not fit your requirements. Or you get some >>> cellular wifi hotspots and use them with OpenVPN. >>>> See: >>>> >>> http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/other/security/security-howto/30353-how-to-set-up-a-site-to-site-vpn-with-openvpn >>>>> On Oct 16, 2015, at 3:08 PM, Dave Cole <linuxcncro...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> Key points - need help with a data cell phone connection to remote >>>>> equipment via a VPN. >>>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> I'm working with some remotely located equipment and I need to >>> establish >>>>> a comm link to it. >>>>> >>>>> We have decided to go with a cell phone data connection. We want to >>> be >>>>> able to remotely access this equipment via a "site to site" VPN. >>>>> This is different than a client/server VPN connection that people >>>>> oftentimes use to connect back to corporate headquarters for email, >>> file >>>>> sharing etc. >>>>> >>>>> The remote equipment is ethernet based but it is not a generic PC, it's >>>>> a PLC. So I need the remote cell phone modem/router to do all of the >>>>> work of encrypting the data, establishing the VPN tunnel, etc. It >>> needs >>>>> to be a VPN Router with a 4G modem built in that supports a "site to >>>>> site connection" and not just be a Router with VPN passthrough. >>>>> >>>>> Sprint sells a Netgear 6100D 4G router that is suppose to do this. I >>>>> bought it and then Sprint told me that they will not support remote >>>>> access on this device! >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone have any experience in doing this? I've been talking to >>>>> "experts" at Sprint and they want me to use a Sprint approved 4G >>>>> cell/router that only supports VPN pass through after I have told them >>>>> over and over that I need to do a site to site VPN with their 4G router >>>>> acting as a VPN endpoint. >>>>> >>>>> Sadly, they don't understand the requirements. >>>>> >>>>> Ironically, TP Link sells a "wired" VPN router for about $60 that does >>>>> what I need, so I could "stack" routers to do what I need, but I really >>>>> don't want to have two routers in the remote control box. >>>>> >>>>> There are some really brilliant people on this list so I am hoping that >>>>> someone can give me some advice/direction etc. >>>>> >>>>> Thank You! >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Emc-developers mailing list >>>>> emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emc-developers mailing list >>>> emc-develop...@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-developers >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emc-users mailing list >>> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users >>> >> >> >> -- >>> <> ... 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