Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-22 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 22/04/2013 00:21, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
> Message: 3 Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:27:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "Peter C. 
> Wallace"  Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA 
> board To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
>  Message-ID: 
>  Content-Type: 
> TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> Sorry, I missed that the build is started with make
>
> Did you try the original script on 9.2 (or 10.x or 13.X)? That should work
> since thats what has been tested
>
>
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa Electronics
we have only try with originals and unmodified file downloaded from GIT
the only file modifyed is firmware.txt for time reasons (only one 
compile, like README file tell) but also with original file the compile 
stop on first pinfile
for the first time and for understand what is the right mode we only try 
with original files... if work well we try to modify the PIN file... but 
it isn't work :-(
i've try to download the 10.1 but don't install; when arrive the window 
who tell to select the webpack it is unselectable and i can't go forward...
then i've installed the last webpack and the message is the same: error1

ciao
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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-21 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, Roberto Sassoli wrote:

> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 23:08:59 +0200
> From: Roberto Sassoli 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
> 
> Il 21/04/2013 22:51, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:47:25 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "Peter C. Wallace"
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>  
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, Roberto Sassoli wrote:
>>
>>>> hello
>>>> i've find help in my local LUG
>>>> i (they) have installed webpack and i've try to compile with MAKE -j4
>>>> and a limited set in firmware.txt and don't work (for time questions...
>>>> original set don't work too)
>>>> i have an error
>>>> this is the copy of terminal
>>>>
>>>> bobwolf@server:~/Scrivania/hostmot2-firmware-d3a1d8d$ make -j4
>>>> ./build.py i43_400 SVTP4_7I39_48 fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT
>>>> build.py: build a hostmot2 firmware
>>>>
>>>> Usage: ./build.py cardname pinname ?bitfilename
>> I would first try not specifying the path and copying the bitfile later
>> and then check which version of webpack you are using (looking at the last
>> message, the script will fail if the version is not 9,10 or 13
>>
>>
> hello
> how can we not specifying the path??? the make -j4 is automatic and
> point to the firmware.txt file to do all
>
> we have try to compile with webpack9.2 with it's service pack and
> tomorrow i've try with the last version of webpack and the message is
> the same
>
> Firmware requires one of these ise major versions to build: 13 10 9
> make: *** [fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT] Errore 1
>
> we have try with unmodified firmware.txt file and the error point the first 
> set of the file
>
> what we miss???
>
> ciao
> Roberto
>
Sorry, I missed that the build is started with make

Did you try the original script on 9.2 (or 10.x or 13.X)? That should work 
since thats what has been tested


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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-21 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 21/04/2013 22:51, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:47:25 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Peter C. Wallace"
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>   
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, Roberto Sassoli wrote:
>
>> >hello
>> >i've find help in my local LUG
>> >i (they) have installed webpack and i've try to compile with MAKE -j4
>> >and a limited set in firmware.txt and don't work (for time questions...
>> >original set don't work too)
>> >i have an error
>> >this is the copy of terminal
>> >
>> >bobwolf@server:~/Scrivania/hostmot2-firmware-d3a1d8d$ make -j4
>> >./build.py i43_400 SVTP4_7I39_48 fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT
>> >build.py: build a hostmot2 firmware
>> >
>> >Usage: ./build.py cardname pinname ?bitfilename
> I would first try not specifying the path and copying the bitfile later
> and then check which version of webpack you are using (looking at the last
> message, the script will fail if the version is not 9,10 or 13
>
>
hello
how can we not specifying the path??? the make -j4 is automatic and 
point to the firmware.txt file to do all

we have try to compile with webpack9.2 with it's service pack and 
tomorrow i've try with the last version of webpack and the message is 
the same

Firmware requires one of these ise major versions to build: 13 10 9
make: *** [fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT] Errore 1

we have try with unmodified firmware.txt file and the error point the first set 
of the file

what we miss???

ciao
Roberto



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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-21 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013, Roberto Sassoli wrote:

> Date: Sun, 21 Apr 2013 22:28:04 +0200
> From: Roberto Sassoli 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
> 
> Il 07/04/2013 10:41, Roberto Sassoli ha scritto:
>> Il 06/04/2013 21:49, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 08:12:30 +0300
>>> From: propcoder
>>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
>>> To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> Message-ID:
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>>
>>> Roberto,
>>>
>>> I am also interested in 3-phase bridge for BLDC servos.
>>> What is your progress?
>>>
>>> Marius
>>>
>> hello
>>
>> i'm blocked
>> i'm not a linux avanced user and i don't understand how make the
>> instructions on the README file
>> i've installed the webpack9.2 but with wine :-( and this isn't the
>> right mode
>> the files to modify are opened but i can't do anything (run, make, ...)
>> i need find someone who tell me (see me) how do it
>>
>> ciao
>> Roberto
> hello
> i've find help in my local LUG
> i (they) have installed webpack and i've try to compile with MAKE -j4
> and a limited set in firmware.txt and don't work (for time questions...
> original set don't work too)
> i have an error
> this is the copy of terminal
>
> bobwolf@server:~/Scrivania/hostmot2-firmware-d3a1d8d$ make -j4
> ./build.py i43_400 SVTP4_7I39_48 fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT
> build.py: build a hostmot2 firmware
>
> Usage: ./build.py cardname pinname ?bitfilename

I would first try not specifying the path and copying the bitfile later
and then check which version of webpack you are using (looking at the last 
message, the script will fail if the version is not 9,10 or 13


>
> If bitfilename isn't specified, it is based on the cardname and pinname.
>
> Available cards: i20 i22_1000 i22_1500 i23 i43_200 i43_400 i65 i68
> x20_1000 x20_1500 x20_2000
>
> Available pinouts: 24XQCTRONLY_72 2X7I65_72 DA2_72 MG_72 PW64_72
> RMSVSS6_12_8_72 RMSVSS6_6_8_72 ST12_72 ST36_96 ST48_96
> SV12IM_2X7I48_72 SV12IM_2X7I49_72 SV12_2X7I48_72
> SV12_2X7I49_96 SV12_3X7I47_72 SV12_72 SV16_96 SV24_144
> SV6_7I49_72 SV8NA SV8_48 SVSP4_6_7I46NA_48 SVSP6_2_48
> SVSP8_6_7I46_72 SVSPD6_2_48 SVSS4_4_72 SVSS4_8_48 SVSS6_6_72
> SVSS8_44_72 SVSS8_8_72 SVSSP4_6_7I46_48
> SVST12_12_2X7I48_2X7I47_96 SVST16_24_144 SVST1_4_7I47_72
> SVST2_4_7I47_48 SVST2_4_7I47_72 SVST2_4_7I47_96 SVST2_8_72
> SVST2_8_GREG_72 SVST4_12NA_48 SVST4_12_48 SVST4_4IM2SI_72
> SVST4_4NA_48 SVST4_4_48 SVST4_6NA_48 SVST4_6_48 SVST4_8_72
> SVST8_24_96 SVST8_3P_72 SVST8_4IM2SI_72 SVST8_4IM2_72
> SVST8_4P_72 SVST8_4_72 SVST8_8IM2_72 SVST8_8_96
> SVSTSP8_12_6_96 SVTP4_7I39_48 SVTP4_7I39_48_2 SVTP6_7I39_72
> SVTW4_1_10_72 SVTW4_24_24_48 SVTW8_24_24_72 SVUA4_8_48
> SVUA8_4_72 SVUA8_8_72 SVWG8_2IM2_72 SVWG8_8IM2_72 TPEN4_5_48
> TPEN6_6_72 zenbot
>
> Firmware requires one of these ise major versions to build: 13 10 9
> make: *** [fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT] Errore 1
>
> what can i do?
>
> ciao
> Roberto
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-21 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 07/04/2013 10:41, Roberto Sassoli ha scritto:
> Il 06/04/2013 21:49, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 08:12:30 +0300
>> From: propcoder
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
>> To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> Message-ID:
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> Roberto,
>>
>> I am also interested in 3-phase bridge for BLDC servos.
>> What is your progress?
>>
>> Marius
>>
> hello
>
> i'm blocked
> i'm not a linux avanced user and i don't understand how make the 
> instructions on the README file
> i've installed the webpack9.2 but with wine :-( and this isn't the 
> right mode
> the files to modify are opened but i can't do anything (run, make, ...)
> i need find someone who tell me (see me) how do it
>
> ciao
> Roberto
hello
i've find help in my local LUG
i (they) have installed webpack and i've try to compile with MAKE -j4 
and a limited set in firmware.txt and don't work (for time questions... 
original set don't work too)
i have an error
this is the copy of terminal

bobwolf@server:~/Scrivania/hostmot2-firmware-d3a1d8d$ make -j4
./build.py i43_400 SVTP4_7I39_48 fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT
build.py: build a hostmot2 firmware

Usage: ./build.py cardname pinname ?bitfilename?

If bitfilename isn't specified, it is based on the cardname and pinname.

Available cards: i20 i22_1000 i22_1500 i23 i43_200 i43_400 i65 i68
 x20_1000 x20_1500 x20_2000

Available pinouts: 24XQCTRONLY_72 2X7I65_72 DA2_72 MG_72 PW64_72
 RMSVSS6_12_8_72 RMSVSS6_6_8_72 ST12_72 ST36_96 ST48_96
 SV12IM_2X7I48_72 SV12IM_2X7I49_72 SV12_2X7I48_72
 SV12_2X7I49_96 SV12_3X7I47_72 SV12_72 SV16_96 SV24_144
 SV6_7I49_72 SV8NA SV8_48 SVSP4_6_7I46NA_48 SVSP6_2_48
 SVSP8_6_7I46_72 SVSPD6_2_48 SVSS4_4_72 SVSS4_8_48 SVSS6_6_72
 SVSS8_44_72 SVSS8_8_72 SVSSP4_6_7I46_48
 SVST12_12_2X7I48_2X7I47_96 SVST16_24_144 SVST1_4_7I47_72
 SVST2_4_7I47_48 SVST2_4_7I47_72 SVST2_4_7I47_96 SVST2_8_72
 SVST2_8_GREG_72 SVST4_12NA_48 SVST4_12_48 SVST4_4IM2SI_72
 SVST4_4NA_48 SVST4_4_48 SVST4_6NA_48 SVST4_6_48 SVST4_8_72
 SVST8_24_96 SVST8_3P_72 SVST8_4IM2SI_72 SVST8_4IM2_72
 SVST8_4P_72 SVST8_4_72 SVST8_8IM2_72 SVST8_8_96
 SVSTSP8_12_6_96 SVTP4_7I39_48 SVTP4_7I39_48_2 SVTP6_7I39_72
 SVTW4_1_10_72 SVTW4_24_24_48 SVTW8_24_24_72 SVUA4_8_48
 SVUA8_4_72 SVUA8_8_72 SVWG8_2IM2_72 SVWG8_8IM2_72 TPEN4_5_48
 TPEN6_6_72 zenbot

Firmware requires one of these ise major versions to build: 13 10 9
make: *** [fw/7i43-4/SVTP4_7I39_48.BIT] Errore 1

what can i do?

ciao
Roberto



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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 April 2013 09:41, Roberto Sassoli  wrote:

> i'm not a linux avanced user and i don't understand how make the
> instructions on the README file
> i've installed the webpack9.2 but with wine :-( and this isn't the right
> mode

If you prefer to use Windows, then I think you can build the firmware
entirely in Windows.
There is nothing "Linux" about the FPGA / Hostmot2 firmware.
Try working with the Windows version of the Xylinx tools.

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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-07 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 06/04/2013 21:49, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2013 08:12:30 +0300
> From: propcoder
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
> To:emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Roberto,
>
> I am also interested in 3-phase bridge for BLDC servos.
> What is your progress?
>
> Marius
>
hello

i'm blocked
i'm not a linux avanced user and i don't understand how make the 
instructions on the README file
i've installed the webpack9.2 but with wine :-( and this isn't the right 
mode
the files to modify are opened but i can't do anything (run, make, ...)
i need find someone who tell me (see me) how do it

ciao
Roberto

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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-04-06 Thread propcoder
Roberto,

I am also interested in 3-phase bridge for BLDC servos.
What is your progress?

Marius

On 2013.03.23 22:08, Roberto Sassoli wrote:
> hello
> i'm an italian new user of EMC2
> excuse my bad english
> can i use the function 3PWM included in 5i23 SVTP6_7I39 firmware file
> with a 7i43 board?
> or better
> is it difficult make a firmware file which can drive 3PWM in a 7i43 board?
>
> the 7i39 board is a good board but is expensive with cost and pin usage
> (16 pin used for two motors and 8 pin unused)
> i'm making a board with bridge for drive a 3 phase motor and the other
> pin i want to use for I/O or can i use two driver and i want to use the
> 8 pin unused on the bus
> can anyone help me??
> ciao
> Roberto
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Robert

concerning permissions to use the programming hardware,
also the web notes say
   to restart udev, issue  "/etc/init.d/boot.udev restart"
no, use
   "sudo service udev restart"

hth

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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread TJoseph Powderly
On 03/28/2013 04:35 AM, Roberto Sassoli wrote:
> Il 27/03/2013 23:41, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:35:24 +0100
>> From: Peter Blodow
>> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
>> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>>  
>> Message-ID:<5152cb6c.3020...@dreki.de>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>>
>>
>> What is GUNDAM's syndrome? Belonging to the category of Murphy's legal
>> advice system?
>>
>> Peter
> in Italy there is a robotic mailing list (sumobot, rover, autonomus
> drive, etc etc) and the gundam's syndrome is invoke when a new user want
> to make a mechanism, software, electronics or other, whitout knowledge
> or hollywood suggestions...
> for example:
> "whith my iPhone (iPhone is the best ;-)  ) whant control my dog when
> goes to pee"
> "i'm looking for a microbot like a fly to spy my girlfriend"
> "with a microwave, a washing machine and a radiocontrol toy car can i
> make a super robot like Gundam?"
> "i have watch "minority report"... it's possible control a computer like
> Tom Cruise???"
> and so much...
>
> return to my Gundam's way
> i've try to install webpak 9.2 and don't install :-(((
> i've downloaded the last xilinx program but i don't understand how can
> modify the .xml .BIT and .PIN files included in hostmot's firmware linux
> position
> must i go to garden???
>
> ciao
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on 12.04, I recently installed Xilinx 14.4
Actually I tried 14.4 then 9.2i sp4, then went back to trying 14.4.
Many filed attempts and loads of bad / outdated web info.

The successful install went this way:

I used notes from 
http://dreamrunner.org/blog/2012/09/12/install-xilinx-ise-on-the-ubuntu/

I used the Linux download, and for that the single file download.
Dont use the multiple file download, and no special downloader was used.
Just check the csum.
This too about 6hrs with my internet provider in USA.
You'll need a load of space, say 250% of the download size to download 
AND extract.

You'll need another 150% of the download size where you want to install
I used one partition with 34G free for the download and extract, and 
another with 26G free for the install target.

During the install, you'll be asked for a license.
A separate program runs to do this. I requested a WebPack license.
This is important trick! Install FULL , but use WebPack license.

A few libraries were needed, see the dreamrunner link

During the install it will ask if you want to install the drivers.
The web consensus is DONT DO IT YET! I have not gotten to the point of 
communication with a target yet, so cannot offer personal experience, 
but many say this is the correct approach.

update: I did build the drivers, tho the script had a small change for 
the version number ( 12.x to 14.4). They built fine but I dont have Jtag 
header on my card yet and have not tested. So I cannot prove that mine 
works.

The suite is invoked by running a script, so the script needs to be 
executable and have sufficient permissions ( settings32.sh for my ubuntu 
12.04 shell )

to get a desktop icon, i followed
http://followthegeeks.com/how-to-manually-create-application-launcher-in-ubuntu-12-04-unity/

the icon is in 
yourpath//Xilinx/14.4/ISE_DS/common/idata/usenglish/idata/isebillboards/logo.png

I also downloaded the zip files for tutorials
I ran the entire set of tutors for vhdl.
There are tutors for vhdl verilog and schematic input styles.

This exercises many features of the the suite
The editor, Syntax Checker, Simulator, Bit file generator, schematic 
editor. These all worked.

Again, I have not programmed a bit file  to a card yet.
but i know the program suite works.

PS. It never crashed for the entire tutorial, seems very stabile, but
is a bit slow on my system. Dont panic if the system is building and you 
see no feedback, just wait.

Your last Q about how to modify .xml, .BIT. and .PIN files, well 
AndyPugh is right, you modify the .vhd files (if you use VHDL as your 
chosen language/definition sty

Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 March 2013 09:35, Roberto Sassoli  wrote:

> i've downloaded the last xilinx program but i don't understand how can
> modify the .xml .BIT and .PIN files included in hostmot's firmware linux

Those are not the files you need to change. The input files to the
Xilinix compiler are the vhdl files.

I have managed to make firmwares, and you should be OK with a 7i43.
However the LinuxCNC Hostmot2 firmware build system is many iterations
behind the one currently used by Mesa.

To do it this way, you need to get the LinuxCNC version of the Hostmot2 sources
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=hostmot2-firmware.git;a=summary
Clicking the most recent "snapshot" link should give you all the files
you need, though installing git and cloning that repository might be
better.
You then need to edit the "firmwares.txt" file to tell it which
firmwares to build. It looks like TPEN4_5 is already built for the
7i43-200 and 7i43-400.

There are other vhdl files for the 7i43 in there, PIN_TPEN4_5_48.vhd
and PIN_SVTP4_7I39_48.vhd look promising. (the "48" refers to the
49-pin cards such as the 7i43)

The "Readme" file has more details.

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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-28 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 27/03/2013 23:41, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 11:35:24 +0100
> From: Peter Blodow
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
>   
> Message-ID:<5152cb6c.3020...@dreki.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
>
> What is GUNDAM's syndrome? Belonging to the category of Murphy's legal
> advice system?
>
> Peter
in Italy there is a robotic mailing list (sumobot, rover, autonomus 
drive, etc etc) and the gundam's syndrome is invoke when a new user want 
to make a mechanism, software, electronics or other, whitout knowledge 
or hollywood suggestions...
for example:
"whith my iPhone (iPhone is the best ;-)  ) whant control my dog when 
goes to pee"
"i'm looking for a microbot like a fly to spy my girlfriend"
"with a microwave, a washing machine and a radiocontrol toy car can i 
make a super robot like Gundam?"
"i have watch "minority report"... it's possible control a computer like 
Tom Cruise???"
and so much...

return to my Gundam's way
i've try to install webpak 9.2 and don't install :-(((
i've downloaded the last xilinx program but i don't understand how can 
modify the .xml .BIT and .PIN files included in hostmot's firmware linux 
position
must i go to garden???

ciao
Roberto

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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-27 Thread Peter Blodow


What is GUNDAM's syndrome? Belonging to the category of Murphy's legal 
advice system?

Peter


Am 25.03.2013 18:44, schrieb Roberto Sassoli:
>
> Il 25/03/2013 00:31, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: "Peter C. Wallace"
>>
>> Note: the Encoder is always needed, as is enable unless you have special
>> provisions to disable drive when PWM is not toggling. The sense signals and
>> hall signals are just GPIO so there are really no wasted pins. (even on a 
>> 7I39
>> if you dont use the hall /sense pins the Hall pins can be used as inputs and
>> the sense pins for input or output)
>>
>> The 3 phase PWMgen has no connection at all to the hall, encoder or sense
>> signals although some configs wire the 3pwmgens fault input to a sense pin
>>
> ok
> i've understand the situation...
> i've read the SVTP6_7i39.PIN of hostmot's files on my EMC2 computer, but
> the SVTP4_7i39.pin file send to me from Andy Pugh is complete with GPIO
> on all pins and clarify the situation
> can i use the firmware ;-)))
> for best use of all, i'll must mix carasteristics of 7i39 with
> 7i30/7i32/7i33 cards... maybe the 7i43(400) can "supply" all the thread...
> it's an hard way for me, but the knowledge , the curiosity, the mental
> insanity and the "GUNDAM's syndrome" are my best friends
> ;-)))
> ciao
> Roberto
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-25 Thread Roberto Sassoli


Il 25/03/2013 00:31, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:22:55 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Peter C. Wallace"
>
> Note: the Encoder is always needed, as is enable unless you have special
> provisions to disable drive when PWM is not toggling. The sense signals and
> hall signals are just GPIO so there are really no wasted pins. (even on a 7I39
> if you dont use the hall /sense pins the Hall pins can be used as inputs and
> the sense pins for input or output)
>
> The 3 phase PWMgen has no connection at all to the hall, encoder or sense
> signals although some configs wire the 3pwmgens fault input to a sense pin
>
ok
i've understand the situation...
i've read the SVTP6_7i39.PIN of hostmot's files on my EMC2 computer, but
the SVTP4_7i39.pin file send to me from Andy Pugh is complete with GPIO
on all pins and clarify the situation
can i use the firmware ;-)))
for best use of all, i'll must mix carasteristics of 7i39 with
7i30/7i32/7i33 cards... maybe the 7i43(400) can "supply" all the thread...
it's an hard way for me, but the knowledge , the curiosity, the mental
insanity and the "GUNDAM's syndrome" are my best friends
;-)))
ciao
Roberto




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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-24 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013, Roberto Sassoli wrote:

> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 23:59:16 +0100
> From: Roberto Sassoli 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board
> 
> Il 24/03/2013 01:56, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:
>
>  From: andy pugh 
>> Arguably the 7i39 is economical on pins. The hostmot2 2-phase PWMgen
>> normally uses 6 pins (one pin for each gate of the inverter bridge).
>> The 7i39 configs only use 3.
>> 3 pins to control the inverter, 3 Hall sensors and 3 encoder lines is
>> the bare minimum required.
> ok
> the card work with your configuration
> but the 3PWM work only with pwm, encoder, enable and sense (3+3+1+1
> pin=8pin)
> too much pin expensive ;-)))
> i'll try to install webpack 9.2 and see you soon

Note: the Encoder is always needed, as is enable unless you have special 
provisions to disable drive when PWM is not toggling. The sense signals and 
hall signals are just GPIO so there are really no wasted pins. (even on a 7I39 
if you dont use the hall /sense pins the Hall pins can be used as inputs and 
the sense pins for input or output)

The 3 phase PWMgen has no connection at all to the hall, encoder or sense 
signals although some configs wire the 3pwmgens fault input to a sense pin

>
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> Roberto
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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-24 Thread Roberto Sassoli
Il 24/03/2013 01:56, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net ha scritto:

  From: andy pugh 
> Arguably the 7i39 is economical on pins. The hostmot2 2-phase PWMgen
> normally uses 6 pins (one pin for each gate of the inverter bridge).
> The 7i39 configs only use 3.
> 3 pins to control the inverter, 3 Hall sensors and 3 encoder lines is
> the bare minimum required.
ok
the card work with your configuration
but the 3PWM work only with pwm, encoder, enable and sense (3+3+1+1 
pin=8pin)
too much pin expensive ;-)))
i'll try to install webpack 9.2 and see you soon

ciao
Roberto

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Re: [Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 March 2013 20:08, Roberto Sassoli  wrote:

> can i use the function 3PWM included in 5i23 SVTP6_7I39 firmware file
> with a 7i43 board?
> or better
> is it difficult make a firmware file which can drive 3PWM in a 7i43 board?

The firmware file does exist, I have even used it. But I can't see it
in the package downloaded from Mesa or the LinuxCNC firmware package.

> the 7i39 board is a good board but is expensive with cost and pin usage
> (16 pin used for two motors and 8 pin unused)

Arguably the 7i39 is economical on pins. The hostmot2 2-phase PWMgen
normally uses 6 pins (one pin for each gate of the inverter bridge).
The 7i39 configs only use 3.
3 pins to control the inverter, 3 Hall sensors and 3 encoder lines is
the bare minimum required.

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[Emc-users] 3PWM on 7i43 MESA board

2013-03-23 Thread Roberto Sassoli
hello
i'm an italian new user of EMC2
excuse my bad english
can i use the function 3PWM included in 5i23 SVTP6_7I39 firmware file
with a 7i43 board?
or better
is it difficult make a firmware file which can drive 3PWM in a 7i43 board?

the 7i39 board is a good board but is expensive with cost and pin usage
(16 pin used for two motors and 8 pin unused)
i'm making a board with bridge for drive a 3 phase motor and the other
pin i want to use for I/O or can i use two driver and i want to use the
8 pin unused on the bus
can anyone help me??
ciao
Roberto




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