Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-11 Thread Svenne Larsson
A Skype conference should work.



2008/5/11 Jon Elson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Ray Henry wrote:
> >
> > I won't presume to speak for other presenters.  I move a around a lot
> > for an old guy.  Don't think that a web cam is going to do folk much
> > good although I'm not at all opposed capturing my events.
>
> A good lapel mike and a camera focised on your whiteboard or
> easel would get all the important stuff.
>
> > Another issue will be my use of the projector -- a lot.  I presume that
> > we could "hire" someone with a bit of video production experience to
> > switch between the display and the lab and catch the essence of things.
> > If we use a stand alone video camera we could probably get one of the
> > developers to write us a capture and store program.
> >
> It may be possible to capture the projector info digitally, and
> mix later.
> > Wireless mikes would be good also.
> >
> > I don't have a clue how Roland's link would stand up to streaming.  We
> > might have to upload after the fact.
> >
> Yeah, I'm sure that would overload his link.  Live streaming
> video from the workshop would be WAY cool, though!  My wife's
> favorite church 1000 miles from home does this, but they hire a
> service to do the internet broadcast.  Still, they have to have
> a fast upload feed to that service.
>
> Jon
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Jon Elson
Ray Henry wrote:
> 
> I won't presume to speak for other presenters.  I move a around a lot
> for an old guy.  Don't think that a web cam is going to do folk much
> good although I'm not at all opposed capturing my events.

A good lapel mike and a camera focised on your whiteboard or 
easel would get all the important stuff.

> Another issue will be my use of the projector -- a lot.  I presume that
> we could "hire" someone with a bit of video production experience to
> switch between the display and the lab and catch the essence of things.
> If we use a stand alone video camera we could probably get one of the
> developers to write us a capture and store program.  
> 
It may be possible to capture the projector info digitally, and 
mix later.
> Wireless mikes would be good also.
> 
> I don't have a clue how Roland's link would stand up to streaming.  We
> might have to upload after the fact.
> 
Yeah, I'm sure that would overload his link.  Live streaming 
video from the workshop would be WAY cool, though!  My wife's 
favorite church 1000 miles from home does this, but they hire a 
service to do the internet broadcast.  Still, they have to have 
a fast upload feed to that service.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread John Kasunich
Ian W. Wright wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As for Ray's comments on his use of the projector, surely someone could fairly
> easily incorporate the slide material directly into a video.
> 

If it really is just slides, that isn't hard.  I'm betting it will be
more like interactive demos.  Clicking, pointing, and otherwise actually
_using_ the software.

Regards,

John Kasunich

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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Someone *could* incorporate the slide material into a video, but we need 
someone to take on the job.

I suspect it would be reasonable to:

1 -- Have a video camera pointed at the presenter and/or a marker board he 
might be using.
2 -- Produce DVDs/CDs containing the video and a separate file with any 
written material.
3 -- Ask the presenter to announce which slide he is discussing as he pages 
through them.

That way, someone who wants to go through the presentation can print the 
prepared material and then watch the video.

KL

Kenneth Lerman
Mark Kenny Products Company, LLC
55 Main Street
Newtown, CT 06470
888-ISO-SEVO
203-426-7166
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> Hi,
>
> >>>>>>>>>Streaming is out of the question. The link is ADSL. >>>>>>>>>>
>
> My vote would go for DVD iso's if someone would host them - or maybe host 
> one apiece. I would love to take part in the fest but its just out of the 
> question - I've just had a week in NY with my brother and the domestic 
> chancellor would never sanction another major dip into the budget. 
> However, I would really value to chance to see some of the presentations 
> and downloading iso files would seem to be the ideal.
>
> As for Ray's comments on his use of the projector, surely someone could 
> fairly easily incorporate the slide material directly into a video.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ian
> ---
> Ian W. Wright,
> Sheffield   UK
>
>
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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Ian W. Wright
Hi,

 >Streaming is out of the question. The link is ADSL. >>

My vote would go for DVD iso's if someone would host them - or maybe host one 
apiece. I would love to take part in the fest but its just out of the question 
- I've just had a week in NY with my brother and the domestic chancellor would 
never sanction another major dip into the budget. However, I would really value 
to chance to see some of the presentations and downloading iso files would seem 
to be the ideal.

As for Ray's comments on his use of the projector, surely someone could fairly 
easily incorporate the slide material directly into a video.

Best wishes,

Ian
---
Ian W. Wright,
Sheffield   UK



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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Alex Joni
Hi Ray,

I have lots of space available for hosting at DH.
Last I checked around 400G or so ;) (should probably be enough).
Too bad I can't make it to Fest.. but there's always next year..

Regards,
Alex

On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 09:50 -0500, Ray Henry wrote:
> In previous years we have placed a web cam above the arch looking into
> the EMC2 area.  Beyond this, we have not done a lot of topical
> presentation on the web.  
> 
> I won't presume to speak for other presenters.  I move a around a lot
> for an old guy.  Don't think that a web cam is going to do folk much
> good although I'm not at all opposed capturing my events.  All of the
> intellectual property that I'm going to present has been stolen/borrowed
> from others anyway -- we call it open-source. 
> 
> I also freely admit that there are some questions and answers for which
> I lack the other half.  (The answer is 42, 'scuse me, what was the
> question again? "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")
> 
> Another issue will be my use of the projector -- a lot.  I presume that
> we could "hire" someone with a bit of video production experience to
> switch between the display and the lab and catch the essence of things.
> If we use a stand alone video camera we could probably get one of the
> developers to write us a capture and store program.  
> 
> Wireless mikes would be good also.
> 
> I don't have a clue how Roland's link would stand up to streaming.  We
> might have to upload after the fact.
> 
> As for the size of the files, we had conversations between a couple of
> the developers on line for quite a while.  Mega files they were.  Ask
> about hosting.
> 
> Rayh  
> 
> To snip is hip!
> 
> 
> On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 06:58 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote:
> > Greg,
> >  
> > !!! Great idea !!!
> >  
> > Hope to see you at the Fest
> > Dale
> > 
> > 
> > Greg Bentzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ray; (and other EMC subject presenters)
> > 
> > Any chance someone could video all your classes?
> > 
> > I can capture from Mini-DV tape and convert to Xvid and fit
> > the whole thing on a DVD or maybe even a CD.
> > 
> > If the size isn't too big I could put up .iso files on one of
> > my domains.
> > Also I could put selected clips up as .avi's
> > 
> > I will have to make it to the Fest some year, but it is easier
> > to get a root canal than a week off where I work.
> > 
> > Greg.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Ray Henry
On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 12:57 -0400, John Kasunich wrote:

> 
> Streaming is out of the question.  The link is ADSL.  Download speeds
> aren't bad, upload speeds are noticeably less.  Last year's webcam took
> a photo once every minute, and it took several seconds (sometimes 10) to
> upload each one.  The photos were _not_ being served to individuals from
> the workshop - they were uploaded to a server at Dreamhost.  Otherwise
> less than 10 people with their browsers looking at the webcam would have
> been enough to totally saturate the upload link.

Okay.  I like the webcam thing but then we need someone to take charge
of putting the videos together.  

Ray





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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread John Kasunich
Ray Henry wrote:
> In previous years we have placed a web cam above the arch looking into
> the EMC2 area.  Beyond this, we have not done a lot of topical
> presentation on the web.  
> 
> I won't presume to speak for other presenters.  I move a around a lot
> for an old guy.  Don't think that a web cam is going to do folk much
> good although I'm not at all opposed capturing my events.  All of the
> intellectual property that I'm going to present has been stolen/borrowed
> from others anyway -- we call it open-source. 
> 
> I also freely admit that there are some questions and answers for which
> I lack the other half.  (The answer is 42, 'scuse me, what was the
> question again? "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")
> 
> Another issue will be my use of the projector -- a lot.  I presume that
> we could "hire" someone with a bit of video production experience to
> switch between the display and the lab and catch the essence of things.
> If we use a stand alone video camera we could probably get one of the
> developers to write us a capture and store program.  
> 
> Wireless mikes would be good also.
> 
> I don't have a clue how Roland's link would stand up to streaming.  We
> might have to upload after the fact.

Streaming is out of the question.  The link is ADSL.  Download speeds
aren't bad, upload speeds are noticeably less.  Last year's webcam took
a photo once every minute, and it took several seconds (sometimes 10) to
upload each one.  The photos were _not_ being served to individuals from
the workshop - they were uploaded to a server at Dreamhost.  Otherwise
less than 10 people with their browsers looking at the webcam would have
been enough to totally saturate the upload link.

> As for the size of the files, we had conversations between a couple of
> the developers on line for quite a while.  Mega files they were.  Ask
> about hosting.
> 
> Rayh  
> 


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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Ray Henry

In previous years we have placed a web cam above the arch looking into
the EMC2 area.  Beyond this, we have not done a lot of topical
presentation on the web.  

I won't presume to speak for other presenters.  I move a around a lot
for an old guy.  Don't think that a web cam is going to do folk much
good although I'm not at all opposed capturing my events.  All of the
intellectual property that I'm going to present has been stolen/borrowed
from others anyway -- we call it open-source. 

I also freely admit that there are some questions and answers for which
I lack the other half.  (The answer is 42, 'scuse me, what was the
question again? "Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy")

Another issue will be my use of the projector -- a lot.  I presume that
we could "hire" someone with a bit of video production experience to
switch between the display and the lab and catch the essence of things.
If we use a stand alone video camera we could probably get one of the
developers to write us a capture and store program.  

Wireless mikes would be good also.

I don't have a clue how Roland's link would stand up to streaming.  We
might have to upload after the fact.

As for the size of the files, we had conversations between a couple of
the developers on line for quite a while.  Mega files they were.  Ask
about hosting.

Rayh  

To snip is hip!


On Sat, 2008-05-10 at 06:58 -0700, Dale Ertley wrote:
> Greg,
>  
> !!! Great idea !!!
>  
> Hope to see you at the Fest
> Dale
> 
> 
> Greg Bentzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray; (and other EMC subject presenters)
> 
> Any chance someone could video all your classes?
> 
> I can capture from Mini-DV tape and convert to Xvid and fit
> the whole thing on a DVD or maybe even a CD.
> 
> If the size isn't too big I could put up .iso files on one of
> my domains.
> Also I could put selected clips up as .avi's
> 
> I will have to make it to the Fest some year, but it is easier
> to get a root canal than a week off where I work.
> 
> Greg.





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Re: [Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Dale Ertley
Greg,
   
  !!! Great idea !!!
   
  Hope to see you at the Fest
  Dale
  

Greg Bentzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ray; (and other EMC subject presenters)

Any chance someone could video all your classes?

I can capture from Mini-DV tape and convert to Xvid and fit the whole thing on 
a DVD or maybe even a CD.

If the size isn't too big I could put up .iso files on one of my domains.
Also I could put selected clips up as .avi's

I will have to make it to the Fest some year, but it is easier to get a root 
canal than a week off where I work.

Greg.



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[Emc-users] CNC Fest classes

2008-05-10 Thread Greg Bentzinger
Ray; (and other EMC subject presenters)

Any chance someone could video all your classes?

I can capture from Mini-DV tape and convert to Xvid and fit the whole thing on 
a DVD or maybe even a CD.

If the size isn't too big I could put up .iso files on one of my domains.
Also I could put selected clips up as .avi's

I will have to make it to the Fest some year, but it is easier to get a root 
canal than a week off where I work.

Greg.



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