Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 23:36:06 -0600, you wrote: I late 1997/early 1998 I went to Oxnard, California to visit Haas. They were just developing the VR (5 axis) series machine. When I visited with Kurt Zierhut (sp?) the arrogance was very evident. Kurt is from England so this would ENHANCE his arrogance somewhat. As opposed to being from the USA which would enhance his stupidity?? Just as offensive a statement Steve Blackmore -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
I late 1997/early 1998 I went to Oxnard, California to visit Haas. They were just developing the VR (5 axis) series machine. When I visited with Kurt Zierhut (sp?) the arrogance was very evident. Kurt is from England so this would ENHANCE his arrogance somewhat. As opposed to being from the USA which would enhance his stupidity?? Just as offensive a statement Steve Blackmore -- Steve, Wasn't trying to offend anyone, just trying to cause a smile. Stuart - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
What is a generic controller form that the emc code needs to follow? Example Fanuc,Haas, etc. I am trying to set up solid cad and I need a generic cnc-controller to set up with. Fanuc, Haas, etc. probably all have their own dialect of G-code EMC mostly follows the RS274 standard look here: http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/documents/kramer/RS274NGC_22.pdf and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-code AW - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Generic controller
What is a generic controller form that the emc code needs to follow? Example Fanuc,Haas, etc. I am trying to set up solid cad and I need a generic cnc-controller to set up with. Andy - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
Thanks Anders Wallin wrote: So are is there any of these that follow Rs274? more or less all of the ones below follow 'standard' g-code to some extent I would think :) To really verify what works and what doesn't on each machine is beyond what most people and companies have time/money to do. There is not much convergence towards a common standard. The CAM software vendors are happy to charge extra for a myriad of different post-processors and their annual subscriptions... It's strange that the machining industry hasn't settled on a standard language for toolpaths. Julian Todd has much more to say about this - see for example half way through this post: http://www.freesteel.co.uk/wpblog/2008/01/worknc-art-and-mori-seiki/ AW 426_Parm_3d DIN_ISO Fadel_3d Fanuc Fanuc3d Fanuc3x Fanuc4ax Haas_3x Maho432_3d Mikron23 Okuma_3d Roeders Roeders4 Sin810_4_3d - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
Hi Put in standard Fanuc. There are very few changes you will have to make. Andy Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So are is there any of these that follow Rs274? 426_Parm_3d DIN_ISO Fadel_3d Fanuc Fanuc3d Fanuc3x Fanuc4ax Haas_3x Maho432_3d Mikron23 Okuma_3d Roeders Roeders4 Sin810_4_3d Anders Wallin wrote: What is a generic controller form that the emc code needs to follow? Example Fanuc,Haas, etc. I am trying to set up solid cad and I need a generic cnc-controller to set up with. Fanuc, Haas, etc. probably all have their own dialect of G-code EMC mostly follows the RS274 standard look here: http://www.isd.mel.nist.gov/documents/kramer/RS274NGC_22.pdf and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-code AW - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
So are is there any of these that follow Rs274? more or less all of the ones below follow 'standard' g-code to some extent I would think :) To really verify what works and what doesn't on each machine is beyond what most people and companies have time/money to do. There is not much convergence towards a common standard. The CAM software vendors are happy to charge extra for a myriad of different post-processors and their annual subscriptions... It's strange that the machining industry hasn't settled on a standard language for toolpaths. Julian Todd has much more to say about this - see for example half way through this post: http://www.freesteel.co.uk/wpblog/2008/01/worknc-art-and-mori-seiki/ AW 426_Parm_3d DIN_ISO Fadel_3d Fanuc Fanuc3d Fanuc3x Fanuc4ax Haas_3x Maho432_3d Mikron23 Okuma_3d Roeders Roeders4 Sin810_4_3d - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Generic controller
Gentlemen, Plain arrogance is why the machine tool builders will not settle on a standard. This would be mixed with the (misguided in my opinion) PROFIT motive. I late 1997/early 1998 I went to Oxnard, California to visit Haas. They were just developing the VR (5 axis) series machine. When I visited with Kurt Zierhut (sp?) the arrogance was very evident. Kurt is from England so this would ENHANCE his arrogance somewhat. He told me that as there is no standard G code Haas thought about changing even the XYZ symbols because they would be able to establish a defacto standard with their control and machines. They may have been able to as they have become a dominant force in the industry. EMC is ready to become the industry standard generic controller. Chris Radek helped me with a script to use APTos (APT360) with EMC. I pick the .apt extension program to load the program into EMC. The computer processes the program through APT360, posts it for EMC and loads the gcode into the control. I use an NC programming system call NCL. I have requested from NCCS a runtime version for Linux. NCL used to run on VAX VMS and the SGI Irix and IBM AIX. NCCS now focuses on Windows to use NCL. I am sure it would run on Linux with very minor changes. I would then be able to use all my part programs directly in EMC. I would like to see EMC display the APT360 program and I wouldn't even see the gcode unless I chose to. Computers are fast enough to process and post the programs in real time. Mastercam, Esprit, Unigraphic. BobCAD/CAM, Catia, WorkNC, SmartCam... Any NC programming system would then be able create a linux runtime and directly run EMC. The post processor would be a non-issue then. Wine could possibly be used now. This is beyond my capabilities but I know a person here that might just be able to make wine work. He was able to run Mastercam 8 in wine last week. Darn, I must go. My wife just woke me up to go to bed. Dreams are nice sometimes. :) thanks Stuart EMC is UMLIMITED! - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
