Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 04:06, John Prentice wrote: >Chris > >> If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of >> plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much >> (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm >> going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - >> they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might >> still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > >The digital pots do work OK for FRO and the like - IMO not enough pulses > per rev for MPG jogging. > >Have a look at: > >http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttlexpress.htm > >It is designed for video editing ($59.95 list in US). USB interface. I > have it set up with the spring loaded shuttle ring for continuous jog > (it will do different speeds depending on the distance you turn it) and > the inner jog wheel does steps. First four buttons select X, Y, Z, A > axes. Fifth button cycles the step size (in range 0.1" to 0.0001") Very > intuitive and fast for setting up a machine. Not so good for manual > machining like you might do with a calibrated 100 click Fanuc MPG. > >The "bad news" for this list is that it is on Mach3 ;=) I still have > little Linux sys prog experience (and actually not much with USB on > Windows) - but the default Windows driver sees it as a standard HID > (vendor ID 0xB33, Product 0x32). The Ring value has a range on +/- 7 so > gives quite sensitive continuous jog speed control. > >If someone made a HAL driver for it, it would, I think,be easy to plug > into EMC2. > >John Prentice > I have a similar device, from a pro editing system, but the interface is UNK at the moment. I've been meaning to get it out and see what it looks like when removed from the panel. I suspect the outputs are a pair of quadrature signals for both the continuous dial, and the spring loaded center=0 back dial. That dial, in the case of this device was able to move the tape at any speed from less than a frame per second to full fwd/rev speeds the capstan motor was capable of, and the last step released the pinch roller for full fast forward and rewind, but I believe that was done in the dvc-pro's os rather than in this device. If and when I figure what sort of signals it can output, I may be back for hookup and config advice. > > > > >- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT >Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share > your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn > cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVD >EV ___ >Emc-users mailing list >Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net >https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above message by Gene Heskett are: Copyright 2007 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
Fantastic... but a support for more mouse interfaces would greater ;-) You shoul be able to set-up in settings if X or Y axis would be used, or be able to lock one axis still if a trackball would be used. Question is how to properly assign many mice at one computer? Maybe if you have one PS/2 standard and the other USB, it would be possible to do autoassign. I believe that mouse sensor is more useful than scrollwheel, especially if you have 1 micrometer stepping :-) On 1/10/07, Anders Wallin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mario. wrote: > > When you say that.. standard PS2 or USB mouse could be used for that! > > You can connect as many as you like and changing mouse functionality > > to a jogwheel or a trackball is very simple. The optical sensor has > > well-defined DPI with +-1.5% tolerance, for jogwheel that should be > > enough and putting it near the wheel to sense the movements too. > > Just you need to make a filter for random rapid movement of the mouse. > > I can recommend laser-lighted mouse in that case too. > > > I wrote a jogwheel widget for pyvcp last night. Do a cvs update and you > will get it. That way you can jog emc with your mouse wheel! > > > AW > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
Mario. wrote: > When you say that.. standard PS2 or USB mouse could be used for that! > You can connect as many as you like and changing mouse functionality > to a jogwheel or a trackball is very simple. The optical sensor has > well-defined DPI with +-1.5% tolerance, for jogwheel that should be > enough and putting it near the wheel to sense the movements too. > Just you need to make a filter for random rapid movement of the mouse. > I can recommend laser-lighted mouse in that case too. I wrote a jogwheel widget for pyvcp last night. Do a cvs update and you will get it. That way you can jog emc with your mouse wheel! AW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
When you say that.. standard PS2 or USB mouse could be used for that! You can connect as many as you like and changing mouse functionality to a jogwheel or a trackball is very simple. The optical sensor has well-defined DPI with +-1.5% tolerance, for jogwheel that should be enough and putting it near the wheel to sense the movements too. Just you need to make a filter for random rapid movement of the mouse. I can recommend laser-lighted mouse in that case too. On 1/10/07, John Prentice <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris > > > If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of > > plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much > > (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm > > going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - > > they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might > > still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > > > > The digital pots do work OK for FRO and the like - IMO not enough pulses per > rev for MPG jogging. > > Have a look at: > > http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttlexpress.htm > > It is designed for video editing ($59.95 list in US). USB interface. I have > it set up with the spring loaded shuttle ring for continuous jog (it will do > different speeds depending on the distance you turn it) and the inner jog > wheel does steps. First four buttons select X, Y, Z, A axes. Fifth button > cycles the step size (in range 0.1" to 0.0001") Very intuitive and fast for > setting up a machine. Not so good for manual machining like you might do > with a calibrated 100 click Fanuc MPG. > > The "bad news" for this list is that it is on Mach3 ;=) I still have little > Linux sys prog experience (and actually not much with USB on Windows) - but > the default Windows driver sees it as a standard HID (vendor ID 0xB33, > Product 0x32). The Ring value has a range on +/- 7 so gives quite sensitive > continuous jog speed control. > > If someone made a HAL driver for it, it would, I think,be easy to plug into > EMC2. > > John Prentice > > > > > - > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] Jogging peripharals was Re: adding 2nd parallel port
Chris > If I was making a pendant I'd sure want a jogwheel instead of > plus/minus buttons. It takes the same number of inputs and works much > (much!) better. I have a real jogwheel but one of these days I'm > going to try one of the little toy knob encoders from mouser etc - > they're meant to be volume controls or something, but they might > still be more useful for jogging than two buttons. > The digital pots do work OK for FRO and the like - IMO not enough pulses per rev for MPG jogging. Have a look at: http://www.contourdesign.com/shuttlepro/shuttlexpress.htm It is designed for video editing ($59.95 list in US). USB interface. I have it set up with the spring loaded shuttle ring for continuous jog (it will do different speeds depending on the distance you turn it) and the inner jog wheel does steps. First four buttons select X, Y, Z, A axes. Fifth button cycles the step size (in range 0.1" to 0.0001") Very intuitive and fast for setting up a machine. Not so good for manual machining like you might do with a calibrated 100 click Fanuc MPG. The "bad news" for this list is that it is on Mach3 ;=) I still have little Linux sys prog experience (and actually not much with USB on Windows) - but the default Windows driver sees it as a standard HID (vendor ID 0xB33, Product 0x32). The Ring value has a range on +/- 7 so gives quite sensitive continuous jog speed control. If someone made a HAL driver for it, it would, I think,be easy to plug into EMC2. John Prentice - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
