Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-27 Thread Andrew
2012/1/25 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com

 Both would need a new firmware files (SVST12_12_7I52S, SVST12_12_7I47)


We intend to use 7i23+7i47x2.
Where can we find SVST12_12_7I47 firmware and pinout?
Thanks!

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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-26 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Andrew wrote:

 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 23:13:51 +0200
 From: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions
 
 2012/1/25 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com

 Thanks! I probably stick to 7i43 as I already have it. Which firmware
 should I use here?

 SVST6_6

 Which 5i23 firmware goes for both cases?
 Both would need a new firmware files (SVST12_12_7I52S, SVST12_12_7I47)

 Thanks, Peter! Just ordered 7i48.
 I found freeby.mesanet.com/SVST6_6.BIT, is it the last version?

Dont think its for a 7I43. What size 7I43 do you have?


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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-26 Thread Andrew
2012/1/27 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com

  I found freeby.mesanet.com/SVST6_6.BIT, is it the last version?

 Dont think its for a 7I43. What size 7I43 do you have?

 400K

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[Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Andrew
Hello,

Some questions regarding MESA cards:
1. Please confirm the configuration 7i43+7i48 for 6 channel analog servo.
Is there full firmware support?
2. The friend's machine has 7 servos (including 3 spindles) in step/dir
mode, and RS422 is preferred for higher input frequency. Which RS422
daughter cards for 5i20 (or other FPGA) are supported with hardware? Also,
is there any possible config with 7 steppers and 7 RS422 quadrature
encoders?

Thanks,
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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Andrew wrote:

 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:26:50 +0200
 From: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: [Emc-users]  MESA questions
 
 Hello,

 Some questions regarding MESA cards:
 1. Please confirm the configuration 7i43+7i48 for 6 channel analog servo.
 Is there full firmware support?

Yes, but you do need to use LinuxCNC 2.5 to support the 7I48

a 5I25/7I77 might be a better solution if you need additional 12/24V I/O

 2. The friend's machine has 7 servos (including 3 spindles) in step/dir
 mode, and RS422 is preferred for higher input frequency. Which RS422
 daughter cards for 5i20 (or other FPGA) are supported with hardware? Also,
 is there any possible config with 7 steppers and 7 RS422 quadrature
 encoders?
Its a little awkward with 7 but for example:

The 7I52S has 6 RS-422 step/dir outputs and 6 RS-422/TTL encoder 
inputs so 2 of these would give 12 of each. This would require a
5I23 as this is too much logic for a 5I20. This requires LinuxCNC 2.5 as well

2 7I47s would also do, giving 8 encoder inputs (RS-422 only) and
12 RS-422 step/dir outputs.



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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 19:26 +0200, Andrew wrote:
... snip
 2. The friend's machine has 7 servos (including 3 spindles) in step/dir
 mode, and RS422 is preferred for higher input frequency. Which RS422
 daughter cards for 5i20 (or other FPGA) are supported with hardware?
... snip

What servo drivers does he have? If the drivers have the option, it
might be better to use a torque or velocity input.

RS422 is a standard that describes handling a signal through a pair of
wires. Generally, I believe any digital input could be made to handle
RS422 by adding a RS422 receiver chip. How many pairs of wires come from
the encoders?

For step/dir drivers, the encoders are wired to the driver, and
optionally, the CNC controller. If you use the driver torque or velocity
inputs, the encoders are wired just to LinuxCNC.
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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Andrew
2012/1/25 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com

 On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Andrew wrote:

  Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:26:50 +0200
  From: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com
  Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
  emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
  To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 
  Subject: [Emc-users]  MESA questions
 
  Hello,
 
  Some questions regarding MESA cards:
  1. Please confirm the configuration 7i43+7i48 for 6 channel analog servo.
  Is there full firmware support?

 Yes, but you do need to use LinuxCNC 2.5 to support the 7I48

 a 5I25/7I77 might be a better solution if you need additional 12/24V I/O


Thanks! I probably stick to 7i43 as I already have it. Which firmware
should I use here?


   2. The friend's machine has 7 servos (including 3 spindles) in step/dir
  mode, and RS422 is preferred for higher input frequency. Which RS422
  daughter cards for 5i20 (or other FPGA) are supported with hardware?
 Also,
  is there any possible config with 7 steppers and 7 RS422 quadrature
  encoders?
 Its a little awkward with 7 but for example:

 The 7I52S has 6 RS-422 step/dir outputs and 6 RS-422/TTL encoder
 inputs so 2 of these would give 12 of each. This would require a
 5I23 as this is too much logic for a 5I20. This requires LinuxCNC 2.5 as
 well


 2 7I47s would also do, giving 8 encoder inputs (RS-422 only) and
 12 RS-422 step/dir outputs.

 Which 5i23 firmware goes for both cases?


 
  Thanks,
  Andrew
 
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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Andrew
2012/1/25 Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com

 What servo drivers does he have? If the drivers have the option, it
 might be better to use a torque or velocity input.

 No analog option, unfortunately.


 RS422 is a standard that describes handling a signal through a pair of
 wires. Generally, I believe any digital input could be made to handle
 RS422 by adding a RS422 receiver chip. How many pairs of wires come from
 the encoders?


Each encoder has 3 pairs.

For step/dir drivers, the encoders are wired to the driver, and
 optionally, the CNC controller. If you use the driver torque or velocity
 inputs, the encoders are wired just to LinuxCNC


We need to connect encoders for index purpose solely. Generally it's an
awkward config, I understand. But those position mode drives are alredy
purchased, what else can we do? )

Andrew

I understand that
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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Andrew wrote:

 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 20:36:21 +0200
 From: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions
 
 2012/1/25 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com

 On Wed, 25 Jan 2012, Andrew wrote:

 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 19:26:50 +0200
 From: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

 Subject: [Emc-users]  MESA questions

 Hello,

 Some questions regarding MESA cards:
 1. Please confirm the configuration 7i43+7i48 for 6 channel analog servo.
 Is there full firmware support?

 Yes, but you do need to use LinuxCNC 2.5 to support the 7I48

 a 5I25/7I77 might be a better solution if you need additional 12/24V I/O


 Thanks! I probably stick to 7i43 as I already have it. Which firmware
 should I use here?

SVST6_6

  2. The friend's machine has 7 servos (including 3 spindles) in step/dir
 mode, and RS422 is preferred for higher input frequency. Which RS422
 daughter cards for 5i20 (or other FPGA) are supported with hardware?
 Also,
 is there any possible config with 7 steppers and 7 RS422 quadrature
 encoders?
 Its a little awkward with 7 but for example:

 The 7I52S has 6 RS-422 step/dir outputs and 6 RS-422/TTL encoder
 inputs so 2 of these would give 12 of each. This would require a
 5I23 as this is too much logic for a 5I20. This requires LinuxCNC 2.5 as
 well


 2 7I47s would also do, giving 8 encoder inputs (RS-422 only) and
 12 RS-422 step/dir outputs.

 Which 5i23 firmware goes for both cases?



Both would need a new firmware files (SVST12_12_7I52S, SVST12_12_7I47)



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 Andrew

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Re: [Emc-users] MESA questions

2012-01-25 Thread Andrew
2012/1/25 Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com

  Thanks! I probably stick to 7i43 as I already have it. Which firmware
  should I use here?
 
 SVST6_6
 
  Which 5i23 firmware goes for both cases?
 Both would need a new firmware files (SVST12_12_7I52S, SVST12_12_7I47)

 Thanks, Peter! Just ordered 7i48.
I found freeby.mesanet.com/SVST6_6.BIT, is it the last version?

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