Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,

Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
the package.

sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
My hostmot2-firmware-all is at current version.  The contents of 
/lib/firmware/hm2/7i43* are:

engr-d510@engr-d510-2:~$ ls /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43-4
SV8.BIT  SVST4_12.BIT  SVST4_4.BIT  SVST4_6.BIT  TPEN4_5.BIT
SV8.xml  SVST4_12.xml  SVST4_4.xml  SVST4_6.xml  TPEN4_5.xml
engr-d510@engr-d510-2:~$ ls /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43
SVST4_12B.BIT  SVST4_4B.BIT  SVST4_4S.BIT  SVST4_6B.BIT  SVST4_6S.BIT

Looking at the git source list (located at
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=hostmot2-firmware.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/master;hb=refs/heads/master)
I see the additional configurations for 48 pin cards like 7I43:
SVSS4_8, SVSSP4_6_7I46, SVST2_4_7I47, SVST4_12NA,
SVST4_6NA, SVTP4_7I39, SVTW4_24_24, and SVUA8_4.

It would appear that the build process is lagging the source
development process.

-- Ralph

From: andy pugh [bodge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 2:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,

Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
the package.

sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Dave Cole
On 2/7/2014 5:31 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu 
 wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,
 Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

 It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
 the package.

 sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all


I'm using Ubuntu 12.04..
When I did:  sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-all it did not 
install the compiled bit files.
But it installed the docs for compiling the bit files and perhaps also 
the bit file source code.

I had to do a sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-7i43-2 to get the 
200K version firmware bit files.   I think the -2 is changed to a -4 to 
get the 400K version bit files.

I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and when using the Ubuntu software center (I 
added the source path as required to find the LInuxCNC debs), if you 
type in hostmot2 it will find the
packages but it will not install them properly.But when I did the 
sudo apt-get install line via the terminal it worked?
So something is not quite right with the 12.04 Ubuntu software center 
and the LinuxCNC repository as it applies to the hostmot files for some
reason.

Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
I didn't know about hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4, but it is up-to-date
also.  Still no extra bit files.  I'm using stock 10.04.

With some searching, I found the build instructions (in the path
/usr/share/doc/hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4 for anyone else searching).  
I was hoping to avoid doing that.  I have Xilinx 12 installed on another 
computer, which appears to have some problems generating bitfiles 
for the 7i43.

-- Ralph
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Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 8:32 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

On 2/7/2014 5:31 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu 
 wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,
 Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

 It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
 the package.

 sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all


I'm using Ubuntu 12.04..
When I did:  sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-all it did not
install the compiled bit files.
But it installed the docs for compiling the bit files and perhaps also
the bit file source code.

I had to do a sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-7i43-2 to get the
200K version firmware bit files.   I think the -2 is changed to a -4 to
get the 400K version bit files.

I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and when using the Ubuntu software center (I
added the source path as required to find the LInuxCNC debs), if you
type in hostmot2 it will find the
packages but it will not install them properly.But when I did the
sudo apt-get install line via the terminal it worked?
So something is not quite right with the 12.04 Ubuntu software center
and the LinuxCNC repository as it applies to the hostmot files for some
reason.

Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 February 2014 16:49, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:

 With some searching, I found the build instructions (in the path
 /usr/share/doc/hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4 for anyone else searching).
 I was hoping to avoid doing that.

If Pete doesn't beat me to it I can probably find it (or build it)
this evening.

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Ralph Stirling wrote:

 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:49:40 +
 From: Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware
 
 I didn't know about hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4, but it is up-to-date
 also.  Still no extra bit files.  I'm using stock 10.04.

 With some searching, I found the build instructions (in the path
 /usr/share/doc/hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4 for anyone else searching).
 I was hoping to avoid doing that.  I have Xilinx 12 installed on another
 computer, which appears to have some problems generating bitfiles
 for the 7i43.

 -- Ralph


V12 should be fine, but if you have a desired pinout or the 7I39 pinout is OK 
I can build it when I get a free moment sometime today


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 From: Dave Cole [linuxcncro...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 8:32 AM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

 On 2/7/2014 5:31 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu 
 wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,
 Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

 It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
 the package.

 sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all


 I'm using Ubuntu 12.04..
 When I did:  sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-all it did not
 install the compiled bit files.
 But it installed the docs for compiling the bit files and perhaps also
 the bit file source code.

 I had to do a sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-7i43-2 to get the
 200K version firmware bit files.   I think the -2 is changed to a -4 to
 get the 400K version bit files.

 I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and when using the Ubuntu software center (I
 added the source path as required to find the LInuxCNC debs), if you
 type in hostmot2 it will find the
 packages but it will not install them properly.But when I did the
 sudo apt-get install line via the terminal it worked?
 So something is not quite right with the 12.04 Ubuntu software center
 and the LinuxCNC repository as it applies to the hostmot files for some
 reason.

 Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
I just realized I did successfully build a custom bitstream a couple
of years ago (ST12), and reran make in that directory, with a successful
outcome.  So, with newly bolstered courage, I downloaded the current git
snapshot, edited firmwares.txt to just compile the SVTP4_7I39, and
almost had success.  It made it through bitstream generation,
but exited the first call to ghdl in pin.py with a 127 error.  Is my bitstream
good or bad?

I may still take you up on your kind offer, Peter...

Thanks again,
-- Ralph

From: Peter C. Wallace [p...@mesanet.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 9:01 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Ralph Stirling wrote:

 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:49:40 +
 From: Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

 I didn't know about hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4, but it is up-to-date
 also.  Still no extra bit files.  I'm using stock 10.04.

 With some searching, I found the build instructions (in the path
 /usr/share/doc/hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4 for anyone else searching).
 I was hoping to avoid doing that.  I have Xilinx 12 installed on another
 computer, which appears to have some problems generating bitfiles
 for the 7i43.

 -- Ralph


V12 should be fine, but if you have a desired pinout or the 7I39 pinout is OK
I can build it when I get a free moment sometime today


 ___
 From: Dave Cole [linuxcncro...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 8:32 AM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

 On 2/7/2014 5:31 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu 
 wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,
 Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

 It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
 the package.

 sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all


 I'm using Ubuntu 12.04..
 When I did:  sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-all it did not
 install the compiled bit files.
 But it installed the docs for compiling the bit files and perhaps also
 the bit file source code.

 I had to do a sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-7i43-2 to get the
 200K version firmware bit files.   I think the -2 is changed to a -4 to
 get the 400K version bit files.

 I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and when using the Ubuntu software center (I
 added the source path as required to find the LInuxCNC debs), if you
 type in hostmot2 it will find the
 packages but it will not install them properly.But when I did the
 sudo apt-get install line via the terminal it worked?
 So something is not quite right with the 12.04 Ubuntu software center
 and the LinuxCNC repository as it applies to the hostmot files for some
 reason.

 Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
OK, I figured out I didn't have ghdl installed.  Ghdl now has to
be installed from source.  I'm tempted to just use the bitstream
without running it through ghdl, as the ghdl installation isn't going
so good.  As far as I can see ghdl is just a simulator.  How essential
are the ghdl steps in the pin.py script?

Thanks again,
-- Ralph

From: Ralph Stirling
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 10:19 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: RE: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

I just realized I did successfully build a custom bitstream a couple
of years ago (ST12), and reran make in that directory, with a successful
outcome.  So, with newly bolstered courage, I downloaded the current git
snapshot, edited firmwares.txt to just compile the SVTP4_7I39, and
almost had success.  It made it through bitstream generation,
but exited the first call to ghdl in pin.py with a 127 error.  Is my bitstream
good or bad?

I may still take you up on your kind offer, Peter...

Thanks again,
-- Ralph

From: Peter C. Wallace [p...@mesanet.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 9:01 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

On Fri, 7 Feb 2014, Ralph Stirling wrote:

 Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 16:49:40 +
 From: Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu
 Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

 I didn't know about hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4, but it is up-to-date
 also.  Still no extra bit files.  I'm using stock 10.04.

 With some searching, I found the build instructions (in the path
 /usr/share/doc/hostmot2-firmware-7i43-4 for anyone else searching).
 I was hoping to avoid doing that.  I have Xilinx 12 installed on another
 computer, which appears to have some problems generating bitfiles
 for the 7i43.

 -- Ralph


V12 should be fine, but if you have a desired pinout or the 7I39 pinout is OK
I can build it when I get a free moment sometime today


 ___
 From: Dave Cole [linuxcncro...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 8:32 AM
 To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

 On 2/7/2014 5:31 AM, andy pugh wrote:
 On 7 February 2014 02:00, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu 
 wrote:
 It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,
 Are you sure you don't already have it in /lib/firmware/hm2/7i43 ?

 It appears in the LinuxCNC firmware git, so I assume it is included in
 the package.

 sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firwmare-all


 I'm using Ubuntu 12.04..
 When I did:  sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-all it did not
 install the compiled bit files.
 But it installed the docs for compiling the bit files and perhaps also
 the bit file source code.

 I had to do a sudo apt-get install hostmot2-firmware-7i43-2 to get the
 200K version firmware bit files.   I think the -2 is changed to a -4 to
 get the 400K version bit files.

 I am running Ubuntu 12.04 and when using the Ubuntu software center (I
 added the source path as required to find the LInuxCNC debs), if you
 type in hostmot2 it will find the
 packages but it will not install them properly.But when I did the
 sudo apt-get install line via the terminal it worked?
 So something is not quite right with the 12.04 Ubuntu software center
 and the LinuxCNC repository as it applies to the hostmot files for some
 reason.

 Dave

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 February 2014 18:19, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 I just realized I did successfully build a custom bitstream a couple
 of years ago (ST12), and reran make in that directory, with a successful
 outcome.  So, with newly bolstered courage, I downloaded the current git
 snapshot, edited firmwares.txt to just compile the SVTP4_7I39, and
 almost had success.  It made it through bitstream generation,
 but exited the first call to ghdl in pin.py with a 127 error.  Is my bitstream
 good or bad?

I think it is probably good. (I just got the same result). I think it
is the PIN and XML generation step that has failed.

I don't think there is any risk in trying the firmware to see if it works.

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-07 Thread Ralph Stirling
So far so good!  My newly minted custom TPST3_6 loads without
error.  Now I need to test it all.

Thanks Andy and Peter.

-- Ralph

From: andy pugh [bodge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 10:40 AM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

On 7 February 2014 18:19, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 I just realized I did successfully build a custom bitstream a couple
 of years ago (ST12), and reran make in that directory, with a successful
 outcome.  So, with newly bolstered courage, I downloaded the current git
 snapshot, edited firmwares.txt to just compile the SVTP4_7I39, and
 almost had success.  It made it through bitstream generation,
 but exited the first call to ghdl in pin.py with a 127 error.  Is my bitstream
 good or bad?

I think it is probably good. (I just got the same result). I think it
is the PIN and XML generation step that has failed.

I don't think there is any risk in trying the firmware to see if it works.

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[Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-06 Thread Ralph Stirling
Is there a stripped down version of the TPEN4_5 firmware
for the Mesa 7I43-4 available, which does not generate the
complement PWM signals (/A, /B, /C) for each axis?  I would
like to use those pins for Hall commutation inputs if I could.

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 7 February 2014 00:01, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 Is there a stripped down version of the TPEN4_5 firmware
 for the Mesa 7I43-4 available, which does not generate the
 complement PWM signals (/A, /B, /C) for each axis?  I would
 like to use those pins for Hall commutation inputs if I could.

Does SVTP4_7i39 fit the bill? The 7i39 uses 3 channels of PWM and has
3 GPIO channels for the Hall sensors.

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Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

2014-02-06 Thread Ralph Stirling
It would probably work for me.  Is there a compiled .bit around somewhere,
or do I need to gear up to run the vhdl through the Xilinx tools?  I'm having
difficulty finding the official repository of hm2 firmware.  I've found the 
source
files, but not the pre-compiled ones.  The Mesa .zip file doesn't have .bit's 
for
SVTP4_7i39.

Thanks again,
-- Ralph

From: andy pugh [bodge...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 5:30 PM
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Stripped down TPEN4_5 firmware

On 7 February 2014 00:01, Ralph Stirling ralph.stirl...@wallawalla.edu wrote:
 Is there a stripped down version of the TPEN4_5 firmware
 for the Mesa 7I43-4 available, which does not generate the
 complement PWM signals (/A, /B, /C) for each axis?  I would
 like to use those pins for Hall commutation inputs if I could.

Does SVTP4_7i39 fit the bill? The 7i39 uses 3 channels of PWM and has
3 GPIO channels for the Hall sensors.

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