Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-02 Thread Don Stanley
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Przemek Klosowski <
przemek.klosow...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Jon Elson  wrote:
>
> > It is fairly easy to open up a CD drive and clean the lens with alcohol
> > and a Q-tip, and then after the alcohol residue dries, wipe with a dry
> > Q-tip.
>
> I recommed another technique I used when I was younger and messed with
> lasers
> in the lab. Use optical lens paper (used to be available in camera
> stores, in little booklets)
> Drop a spot of cleanest alcohol (isopropyl is good, but be careful
> that it's pure and the kind with added glycerin;
> grain alcohol is fine too) in the middle of the paper. Lay the wet
> part flat on the lens and slide it off sideways.
> The wet part will clean the lens and then the dry part will dry it.
>
Yes; you reminded of the technique we used to clean optics in a PME
Lab in 1959-60. However lens paper was Military issue.

>
> Qtips, tissue paper, etc. have mineral particles in them as whiteners,
> etc, that could scratch the antireflective coating on the lens,
> so you want soft paper.
>

Thanks guys it looks like the Old Drive is going into forced retirement.
Don

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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-02 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Jon Elson  wrote:

> It is fairly easy to open up a CD drive and clean the lens with alcohol
> and a Q-tip, and then after the alcohol residue dries, wipe with a dry
> Q-tip.

I recommed another technique I used when I was younger and messed with lasers
in the lab. Use optical lens paper (used to be available in camera
stores, in little booklets)
Drop a spot of cleanest alcohol (isopropyl is good, but be careful
that it's pure and the kind with added glycerin;
grain alcohol is fine too) in the middle of the paper. Lay the wet
part flat on the lens and slide it off sideways.
The wet part will clean the lens and then the dry part will dry it.

Qtips, tissue paper, etc. have mineral particles in them as whiteners,
etc, that could scratch the antireflective coating on the lens,
so you want soft paper.

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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-02 Thread Jon Elson
Don Stanley wrote:
>  It looks as though OLD FAITHFUL DRIVE is sick or been playing in the
> dirt too long; and has cold allergies. The shop temperature dropped to
> ~66 F overnight.
>   
It is fairly easy to open up a CD drive and clean the lens with alcohol
and a Q-tip, and then after the alcohol residue dries, wipe with a dry
Q-tip.  This fixes about half of the ones that don't read reliably anymore.
If that doesn't fix it, try another drive.  The lasers get weak, the optics
get dirt where you can't get in and clean them.

Jon

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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-01 Thread Don Stanley
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Peter C. Wallace  wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Don Stanley wrote:
>
> > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:26:17 -0400
> > From: Don Stanley 
> > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> > 
> > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"  >
> > Subject: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.
> >
> > Hi All;
> > To support the Mill upgrades to EMC2 I purchased
> > two D510MO with 2GB RAM each and the MI-100
> > chassis.
> > (If anyone is interested, the extra $12 and got a)
> > (temporature speed controlled fan cooled chassis)
> > (with two 4 inch wide slots and one 5.625 inch wide)
> > (slot and room for the extra cables)
> >
> > The problems are:
> > On both computers, when I boot EMC 8.04 live disk, in
> > the "No Change to the Computer mode" using a
> > USB external CD/DVD drive. All goes well until after
> > the orange rectangle goes back and forth then the screen
> > goes to text only with the following message:
> > udevd-event[1293]: run_program '/sbin/modprob' abnormal exit
> >
> > On Computer #1 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change Mode,
> > boots fine. Seems to take 10-15 minutes. When done the latency
> > test does nothing. When I attempt to load a example
> > machine configuration (.ini and .hal files) also nothing.
> > All ubuntu function sceme to work fine.
> >
> > On Computer #2 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change, loads
> > for 5- 10 minutes and starts an endless string of the following messages:
> > [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read directory Block [287e7275]
> > [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read metadata cache entry
> [287e7275]
> >
> > Can someone tell me the problem. (I sure hope it's me)
> >
> >Thanks
> >Don
> >
>
> Just a few WAGs:
>

Hi Peter and All


> Ubuntu 8.04 wont work because the hardware on the D510 is too new
>
Is this a WAG or is it a known problem? The answer will change my intended
course of action.

>
> Your problems with 10.04 (long boot time and disk read troubles) might be
> due
> to a bad CDROM image or drive.
>
I had trouble coming to this conclusion because I have used the CDs and the
Drive many time recently, and it was burned at Nero's slowest rate.
However, I left the system powered up for 4 hours while I went to eat, pout
and
pray; convinced the paranoids were out to get me. When I returned the 'no
change' mode worked fine but about 70% into the load I got more errors.

 It looks as though OLD FAITHFUL DRIVE is sick or been playing in the
dirt too long; and has cold allergies. The shop temperature dropped to
~66 F overnight.

Thanks to all you Guys, I just needed one more clue.
Don

>
> I'd re-burn the CD at 4X and try the 10.04 again
>
>
> Peter Wallace
> Mesa Electronics
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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-01 Thread Spiderdab
Why don't you throw away your CDRom and use an USB key instead?
everything will go faster, and you don't have to wish that your laser 
won't do any mistake!

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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-01 Thread Lawrence Glaister
Hi Don,
I really sounds like you have a bad burn of the 10.04 live CD or your
cdrom drive is having issues. I am not sure on the 8.04 messages,
perhaps using the dmesg command will provide more information ( or look
at /var/log/messages file to see what complaints you are getting on
booting)
cheers


On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 16:26 -0400, Don Stanley wrote:
> Hi All;
> To support the Mill upgrades to EMC2 I purchased
> two D510MO with 2GB RAM each and the MI-100
> chassis.
> (If anyone is interested, the extra $12 and got a)
> (temporature speed controlled fan cooled chassis)
> (with two 4 inch wide slots and one 5.625 inch wide)
> (slot and room for the extra cables)
> 
> The problems are:
> On both computers, when I boot EMC 8.04 live disk, in
> the "No Change to the Computer mode" using a
> USB external CD/DVD drive. All goes well until after
> the orange rectangle goes back and forth then the screen
> goes to text only with the following message:
> udevd-event[1293]: run_program '/sbin/modprob' abnormal exit
> 
> On Computer #1 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change Mode,
> boots fine. Seems to take 10-15 minutes. When done the latency
> test does nothing. When I attempt to load a example
> machine configuration (.ini and .hal files) also nothing.
> All ubuntu function sceme to work fine.
> 
> On Computer #2 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change, loads
> for 5- 10 minutes and starts an endless string of the following messages:
> [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read directory Block [287e7275]
> [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read metadata cache entry [287e7275]
> 
> Can someone tell me the problem. (I sure hope it's me)
> 
> Thanks
> Don
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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-01 Thread Igor Chudov
I vote for bad disk. Try to check the disk using one of the menu choices.

i


On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Don Stanley  wrote:
> Hi All;
> To support the Mill upgrades to EMC2 I purchased
> two D510MO with 2GB RAM each and the MI-100
> chassis.
> (If anyone is interested, the extra $12 and got a)
> (temporature speed controlled fan cooled chassis)
> (with two 4 inch wide slots and one 5.625 inch wide)
> (slot and room for the extra cables)
>
> The problems are:
> On both computers, when I boot EMC 8.04 live disk, in
> the "No Change to the Computer mode" using a
> USB external CD/DVD drive. All goes well until after
> the orange rectangle goes back and forth then the screen
> goes to text only with the following message:
> udevd-event[1293]: run_program '/sbin/modprob' abnormal exit
>
> On Computer #1 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change Mode,
> boots fine. Seems to take 10-15 minutes. When done the latency
> test does nothing. When I attempt to load a example
> machine configuration (.ini and .hal files) also nothing.
> All ubuntu function sceme to work fine.
>
> On Computer #2 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change, loads
> for 5- 10 minutes and starts an endless string of the following messages:
> [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read directory Block [287e7275]
> [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read metadata cache entry [287e7275]
>
> Can someone tell me the problem. (I sure hope it's me)
>
>    Thanks
>        Don
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Re: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.

2010-10-01 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 1 Oct 2010, Don Stanley wrote:

> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 16:26:17 -0400
> From: Don Stanley 
> Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)"
> 
> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" 
> Subject: [Emc-users] D519MO Boot Problems.
> 
> Hi All;
> To support the Mill upgrades to EMC2 I purchased
> two D510MO with 2GB RAM each and the MI-100
> chassis.
> (If anyone is interested, the extra $12 and got a)
> (temporature speed controlled fan cooled chassis)
> (with two 4 inch wide slots and one 5.625 inch wide)
> (slot and room for the extra cables)
>
> The problems are:
> On both computers, when I boot EMC 8.04 live disk, in
> the "No Change to the Computer mode" using a
> USB external CD/DVD drive. All goes well until after
> the orange rectangle goes back and forth then the screen
> goes to text only with the following message:
> udevd-event[1293]: run_program '/sbin/modprob' abnormal exit
>
> On Computer #1 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change Mode,
> boots fine. Seems to take 10-15 minutes. When done the latency
> test does nothing. When I attempt to load a example
> machine configuration (.ini and .hal files) also nothing.
> All ubuntu function sceme to work fine.
>
> On Computer #2 EMC 10.04 live disk, No Change, loads
> for 5- 10 minutes and starts an endless string of the following messages:
> [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read directory Block [287e7275]
> [ nnn.nnn] SQUASHFS error unable to Read metadata cache entry [287e7275]
>
> Can someone tell me the problem. (I sure hope it's me)
>
>Thanks
>Don
>

Just a few WAGs:

Ubuntu 8.04 wont work because the hardware on the D510 is too new

Your problems with 10.04 (long boot time and disk read troubles) might be due 
to a bad CDROM image or drive.

I'd re-burn the CD at 4X and try the 10.04 again


Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics

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