Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-31 Thread John Stewart
Michael;

 So while I wander past the rapidly increasing number of 3D printers at 
 SIGGRAPH, for instance, I currently can't find a use for one that I can 
 afford to have @home.
 
 might be the wrong trade show
 
 have a look dental work, or moldmaking in the jewelry trade


Very good point. Thank you.

JohnS.





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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-31 Thread John Stewart
Hi Joseph;

 John, I can tell you for sure that the parts end up being much
 stronger than you might at first guess from being printed hollow.
 That isn't to say that they are indestructable -- but I was skeptical
 at first, too.  The application you mentioned is actually perfect for
 3D printing -- the various one-off'ish bits and bobs that you would
 rather not spend much time tooling up to make.

I absolutely agree with the whole issue of 3D printing, so my personal issues 
are more to deal with my specific application than with the process. 

Just an FYI; I make 1:16 and 1:8 scale steam locomotives; soft plumbers solder 
does not hold up well on most parts of the locomotive. I've had issues, and 
have seen some messes when people used soft solder for detail work. For sealing 
water containers (locomotive tenders, etc) soft solder is ok. 

These things have coal fires that glow orange when running, and the water in 
them is at about 170 degrees c.  and do indeed get hot. 

Just fyi; right now my silver soldering of a copper boiler outside (hope to 
complete 2 this summer) is with Easy flo 45; it melts at 1125 degrees f; 605 
degrees c. In shade, the copper sheet glows cherry red/orange, and brass will 
melt not much higher than that - I have melted brass components by accident 
before. (whoops…)

I think we are all on the same side of the fence here, just waiting for 
technology to catch up to all of our needs/price points.

JohnS.









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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/5/30 John Stewart alex.stew...@crc.ca:
 Kent;

 Take the sunglasses off. (smile)

 On 2012-05-30, at 2:56 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:

 These exchanges are beginning to remind me of the people would wander
 into microcomputer stores back in the late 1970s/ early 1980s and demand
 that the store staff convince them why they should buy a microcomputer.
 The staff would usually respond it's limited only by your imagination.

Kent, thanks for the nice example!


 So, if you hear me, or someone else say I have no use for a makerbot or 
 rewrap or ..  it's because, well, there's not a need.  Sure, I can change 
 hobbies and create a need for a makerbot rp machine, but my wife and I have a 
 couple of hobbies that we enjoy, thank you!


Thank You, everyone, who shared!
I am building CNC machines for living and I do need different sensor
holders and sometimes they are difficult and/or timeconsuming to make
from sheet metal etc. So from time to time I have been thinking that
3D printing might be the way to go, but I always had the doubt about
the strength of that material. But the responses seem to indicate that
it is not that bad, not to say that it seems pretty usable. Thanks!

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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-30 Thread Joseph Chiu
John, I can tell you for sure that the parts end up being much
stronger than you might at first guess from being printed hollow.
That isn't to say that they are indestructable -- but I was skeptical
at first, too.  The application you mentioned is actually perfect for
3D printing -- the various one-off'ish bits and bobs that you would
rather not spend much time tooling up to make.



On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Viesturs Lācis
viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 2012/5/30 John Stewart alex.stew...@crc.ca:
 Kent;

 Take the sunglasses off. (smile)

 On 2012-05-30, at 2:56 PM, Kent A. Reed wrote:

 These exchanges are beginning to remind me of the people would wander
 into microcomputer stores back in the late 1970s/ early 1980s and demand
 that the store staff convince them why they should buy a microcomputer.
 The staff would usually respond it's limited only by your imagination.

 Kent, thanks for the nice example!


 So, if you hear me, or someone else say I have no use for a makerbot or 
 rewrap or ..  it's because, well, there's not a need.  Sure, I can change 
 hobbies and create a need for a makerbot rp machine, but my wife and I have 
 a couple of hobbies that we enjoy, thank you!


 Thank You, everyone, who shared!
 I am building CNC machines for living and I do need different sensor
 holders and sometimes they are difficult and/or timeconsuming to make
 from sheet metal etc. So from time to time I have been thinking that
 3D printing might be the way to go, but I always had the doubt about
 the strength of that material. But the responses seem to indicate that
 it is not that bad, not to say that it seems pretty usable. Thanks!

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 http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-30 Thread Michael Haberler

Am 30.05.2012 um 21:55 schrieb John Stewart:

 Kent;
 ..
 So while I wander past the rapidly increasing number of 3D printers at 
 SIGGRAPH, for instance, I currently can't find a use for one that I can 
 afford to have @home.

might be the wrong trade show

have a look dental work, or moldmaking in the jewelry trade

-m


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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-30 Thread rob c

Try the RepRap open source printer, last i checked you can buy a fully built 
machine for about $600. Also it is open source.
Have you ever broken a plastic part? 
With a 3D printer you can fix things, dream and make your dream real.

 From: mai...@mah.priv.at
 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 01:05:10 +0200
 To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net
 Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re:  OT: 3D Printer Mods?
 
 
 Am 30.05.2012 um 21:55 schrieb John Stewart:
 
  Kent;
  ..
  So while I wander past the rapidly increasing number of 3D printers at 
  SIGGRAPH, for instance, I currently can't find a use for one that I can 
  afford to have @home.
 
 might be the wrong trade show
 
 have a look dental work, or moldmaking in the jewelry trade
 
 -m
 
 
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Re: [Emc-users] Usefulness - was Re: OT: 3D Printer Mods?

2012-05-30 Thread N. Christopher Perry
Or hearing aid body.

N. Christopher Perry

On May 30, 2012, at 19:05, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote:

 
 Am 30.05.2012 um 21:55 schrieb John Stewart:
 
 Kent;
 ..
 So while I wander past the rapidly increasing number of 3D printers at 
 SIGGRAPH, for instance, I currently can't find a use for one that I can 
 afford to have @home.
 
 might be the wrong trade show
 
 have a look dental work, or moldmaking in the jewelry trade
 
 -m
 
 
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