Re: [Enigmail] strange logic re keys information

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Jackson
On 13/08/14 19:59, Ludwig Hügelschäfer wrote:
> On 13.08.14 11:49, Philip Jackson wrote:
>> [No display of signing key]
> 
> Your whole description reads as if Enigmail respectively the
> underlying gnupg thinks, it has the key, but for some unknown reason
> can't display it.
> 
Yes it seems to have thought it had the key but it did not.

> The expected behaviour for Enigmail is to display a _yellow_ ribbon
> when the signing key is not locally available and offer to download
> it, not to examine/sign/etc.
> 
> Did some other application - even in the background - try to access
> your gnupg keyring at that time?
> 
The only other applications running were Firefox and keepassX (which I use to
auto-type passphrase for pinentry)

> Could you please try to open/view the same mail again and try to
> reproduce this behaviour? If yes, please enable logging within
> Enigmail and send us the debug log. Instructions on how to do this can
> be found here: https://www.enigmail.net/support/bugs.php (lower half).
> 
Sorry - that mail has gone.  I thought the debug log would be there because I
had defined a logging directory some time ago.  However, I made a mistake and
entered the directory as '~/philip/enigmail' and the logfile did not get
created. (I forgot to check at the time.)   I have now defined the log directory
as '/home/philip/enigmail' and the logfile has been created (I just checked)

> If it's not reproducible, please watch out for further occurences and
> try to note the circumstances and report here.

Will do !

Philip


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Re: [Enigmail] strange logic re keys information

2014-08-13 Thread Ludwig Hügelschäfer
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On 13.08.14 11:49, Philip Jackson wrote:
> [No display of signing key]

Your whole description reads as if Enigmail respectively the
underlying gnupg thinks, it has the key, but for some unknown reason
can't display it.

The expected behaviour for Enigmail is to display a _yellow_ ribbon
when the signing key is not locally available and offer to download
it, not to examine/sign/etc.

Did some other application - even in the background - try to access
your gnupg keyring at that time?

Could you please try to open/view the same mail again and try to
reproduce this behaviour? If yes, please enable logging within
Enigmail and send us the debug log. Instructions on how to do this can
be found here: https://www.enigmail.net/support/bugs.php (lower half).

If it's not reproducible, please watch out for further occurences and
try to note the circumstances and report here.

Thanks!

Ludwig

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[Enigmail] strange logic re keys information

2014-08-13 Thread Philip Jackson
In enigmail 1.7 and Thunderbird 31.0 :

I received a message showing the enigmail blue header 'Part of the message
signed, click on Details .'
Details showed the security info option and also options to :

View Key Properties
Sign Sender's key
Set owner's trust ...

I tried the 'View Key properties' and nothing happened, not even an error
message.  I then opened enigmail's key management and sure enough, I didn't have
the sender's key on my keyring.

But, this is the strange part for me, I tried the 'sign sender's key' and 'set
owner's trust' and they both seemed as though they were going to work - they
opened up the appropriate dialog boxes.  I didn't continue .. it seemed wrong to
sign a key that one does not have.

Enigmail offered no option connected to the email concerned to import the
missing key.   I know I could have done so from key manager.

When I checked the enigmail preferences, keyserver tab, I did not have any
keyserver address noted in the automatic download field.  When I put a keyserver
address there, and restarted thunderbird, the 'View key properties' option
worked correctly - the key had been downloaded.

It seems to me that it would be more logical, where the keyserver is not
nominated in 'preferences', and the key is not on the keyring, to do the 
following :

1. not to offer the 'view key properties' option - to gray it out.
2. to gray out both the signing option and the trust setting option
3. to provide an option to import the key.

or alternatively :

1. when 'view key properties' fails to find the key, offer an error message
saying that the key is not present in the keyring and providing an option to
import it
2. to gray out both the signing option and the trust setting option until such
time as the key exists in the keyring.


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