Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On Mon 2018-10-29 22:53:44 -0400, Jean-David Beyer wrote: > On 10/29/2018 11:54 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> So the question is: how far back must it go? What would the changes >> look like if we were to write a new enigmail that depended explicitly on >> GnuPG >= 2.2.10? > > It would all quit for my > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.10 (Santiago) > gnupg2-2.0.14-9.el6_10.x86_64 > > System which is up-to-date as of this weekend. Red Hat support their > releases for 10 years from original release, and backport security > fixes, but tend do do no feature changes or "improvements." GnuPG 2.0.14 was released over 8 years ago. the entire 2.0.x series reached end-of-life nearly a year ago. So maybe RHEL should be the ones responsible for maintaining this backward-compatibility layer in enigmail then, and Patrick can focus on making things more usable for people running a modern version of the underlying tools? I'm just pointing out that the software developers involved here all have limited time, and when we ask them to prioritize taking care of ancient dependencies, we're implicitly asking them to *deprioritize* other development efforts. --dkg signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On 10/29/2018 11:54 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > So the question is: how far back must it go? What would the changes > look like if we were to write a new enigmail that depended explicitly on > GnuPG >= 2.2.10? It would all quit for my Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 6.10 (Santiago) gnupg2-2.0.14-9.el6_10.x86_64 System which is up-to-date as of this weekend. Red Hat support their releases for 10 years from original release, and backport security fixes, but tend do do no feature changes or "improvements." -- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key:166D840A 0C610C8B Registered Machine 1935521. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jerseyhttp://linuxcounter.net ^^-^^ 22:50:02 up 20 days, 6:33, 2 users, load average: 4.44, 4.68, 4.98 ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On Mon 2018-10-29 14:50:57 +0100, Werner Koch wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 17:42, patr...@enigmail.net said: > >> but when I find older versions. You obviously can't fix this by creating >> a new release ;-). Things like "missing MDC" messages for CAST5. > > I see. I general I think it is better to force the use of a current > versions and not to support old versions. OTOH, I know that it is a > problem on Unix where the dtsribution might still run a (patched) old > versions and you can't easily detect whether that one is up to date. at some point, though, it really is useful to require a minimum version. Enigmail can't be expected to ship an indefinite "portability layer" for all past versions of GnuPG forever. So the question is: how far back must it go? What would the changes look like if we were to write a new enigmail that depended explicitly on GnuPG >= 2.2.10? I've done some of that work for debian stable, where several bugfixes and minor features will be backported to the heavily-patched version of 2.1.18 that ships there, in order to support modern enigmail. having a functional test suite in enigmail really helps this process, fwiw, because you can run it against different versions of GnuPG and see what breaks. --dkg signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 17:42, patr...@enigmail.net said: > but when I find older versions. You obviously can't fix this by creating > a new release ;-). Things like "missing MDC" messages for CAST5. I see. I general I think it is better to force the use of a current versions and not to support old versions. OTOH, I know that it is a problem on Unix where the dtsribution might still run a (patched) old versions and you can't easily detect whether that one is up to date. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. pgpGQVHfc9e1O.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On 27.10.18 11:25, Werner Koch wrote: > On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:07, patr...@enigmail.net said: > >> it (Enigmail needs to interpret some human-readable messages that GnuPG >> does not issue correctly in the API). > > Please let me know which messages these are. Using the human interface > for programs is strongly discouraged because the strings, its order or > presence may change with any new minor release of GnuPG. I'm not using any human readable text in the latest release of GnuPG, but when I find older versions. You obviously can't fix this by creating a new release ;-). Things like "missing MDC" messages for CAST5. -Patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:07, patr...@enigmail.net said: > it (Enigmail needs to interpret some human-readable messages that GnuPG > does not issue correctly in the API). Please let me know which messages these are. Using the human interface for programs is strongly discouraged because the strings, its order or presence may change with any new minor release of GnuPG. Shalom-Salam, Werner -- Die Gedanken sind frei. Ausnahmen regelt ein Bundesgesetz. pgpoCMFJnqgk2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
Re: [Enigmail] Password dialogue always in English
On 27.10.18 10:32, n...@gmx.li wrote: > Hello list, > when decrypt an mail, the password dialogue are always in English when > it called by enigmail. But decrypt an file from the console, then the > dialogue is shown in the system language. In both scenarios gpg2 shows > the password question. But why don't respect it the system language when > it called via enigmail? > > Environment: > OS: Fedora 28 > Thunderbird: 60.2.1 > Enigmail: 2.0.8 > GPG2: 2.2.8 > > > Thanks for any ideas. I believe this is because Enigmail sets LC_ALL=C and LANG=C for calling GnuPG, such that all output is in a format that Enigmail can interpret it (Enigmail needs to interpret some human-readable messages that GnuPG does not issue correctly in the API). The only way I see how you could fix this is by writing a wrapper for pinentry like below and configure gpg-agent to use that wrapper: #!/bin/bash export LC_ALL=xx_YY export LANG=xx_YY exec /path/to/pinentry "$@" -Patrick signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ enigmail-users mailing list enigmail-users@enigmail.net To unsubscribe or make changes to your subscription click here: https://admin.hostpoint.ch/mailman/listinfo/enigmail-users_enigmail.net
