Re: [E-devel] Is luajit/lua-old a hard dependency of EFL 1.20.6?
On 17/12/17 21:08, Andreas Metzler wrote:
> On 2017-12-17 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 07:21:41 +0100 Andreas Metzler said:
> [...]
>>> luajit generally has support for arm64 but EFL breaks with "bad light
>>> userdata pointer" (T6156), so as a workaround we have switched to
>>> lua-old on Debian/arm64.
>
>> well luajit didn't even document this limitation until fairly recently
>> (end of 2016). in fact it's a limitation for x86-64 too... for a long
>> time before being documented. it's a very very very odd thing to limit
>> and no one would expect a pointer can only use a limited number of
>> bits for the address unless clearly and distinctly documented. (the
>> pull request came in end of 2016, and luajit is STILL broken for 52bit
>> addressing for example). my take is that luajit is basically broken on
>> 64bit as it makes major assumptions on the VALUE of an address - if
>> the kernel were to remap elsewhere in virtual memory in certain ways
>> it'd still be broken if we just used basic raw pointers. adding the
>> documentation at least kind of helps... but it's still a major design
>> error. we've worked around it in git by now.
>
> Hello,
>
> my layman's reading of the respective bug-reports also was that the
> respective luajit interface was broken. Is the suggested solution
> ("switch to FFI bindings") a real solution?
>
> Will the workaround in EFL GIT possibly end up in a 1.20.x release or is
> t strictly 1.21 material?
>
> TIA, cu Andreas
>
Once we can test and verify that it works its probably worthy of being
in a 1.20.X however at the moment the fixes just lead to a segfault
further on, and I guess i'll have to set up a proper build env outside
obs to debug that, but I haven't looked further yet.
[ 5131s] ELUA_EOLIAN_LIBRARY_PATH=../src/lib/eolian/.libs
../src/bin/elua/elua
-I/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/efl-1.20.6/src/bindings/luajit
-C/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/efl-1.20.6/src/scripts/elua/core
-M/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/efl-1.20.6/src/scripts/elua/modules
-A/home/abuild/rpmbuild/BUILD/efl-1.20.6/src/scripts/elua/apps lualian
-I. -o lib/ecore_audio/ecore_audio.eo.lua lib/ecore_audio/ecore_audio.eo
[ 5132s] make[4]: *** [Makefile:54388:
lib/ecore_audio/ecore_audio.eo.lua] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
If you'd like to try the set of patches in debian you can pull them from
here, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/X11:Enlightenment:Testing/efl
Unfortunately its not at the top of my todo list atm.
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Re: [E-devel] FOSDEM
Hi, I’m doing Friday evening to Sunday evening. Staying at hotel Barsey as it’s walking distance from the university. Andy On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 at 19:51, Tom Hacohen wrote: > I'm also coming. Want to book my travel. When is everyone getting > there/leaving? > > I'm thinking doing Friday - Sunday? > > -- > Tom > > On 17 Dec 2017 15:01, "Carsten Haitzler" wrote: > >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:02:56 + Andrew Williams >> said: >> >> > Hi, >> > >> > The supplier I work with does not do embroidery. >> > Does anyone who will be attending Fosdem have the ability to get a full >> > shirt with stitching organised? >> >> We did before get caps made that are embroidered. i have one. also towels. >> cedric i think knows who/where... >> >> fyi i've booked my travel to fosdem, so i'll be there. :) >> >> > If not should I go ahead with a t-shirt or do folk feel strongly that >> it is >> > not suitable for us? >> > >> > Thanks, >> > Andy >> > >> > p.s. still wondering if folk would pay for their own shirt or if I need >> to >> > get sponsorship for this? >> > >> > On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 at 00:24 Carsten Haitzler >> wrote: >> > >> > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:05:07 + Andrew Williams < >> a...@andywilliams.me> >> > > said: >> > > >> > > > Hi, >> > > > >> > > > I reckon stickers are a minimum :) not sure if we can afford more >> than >> > > that >> > > > to give away. >> > > > >> > > > I also wondered if we should get some new t-shirts - not to give >> away but >> > > > for a little branding and visibility. Would folk be willing to pay >> for >> > > > their own shirt? >> > > > >> > > > I was wondering about “Enlightenment” (with logo) on the front and >> maybe >> > > > “built on EFL” on the back :) >> > > >> > > Can we do more stylish than a t-shirt? Like... A proper collared shirt >> > > maybe >> > > with the logo embroidered? grey/black with white embroidery? :) >> > > >> > > > Looking forward to it, >> > > > Andy >> > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 at 14:31, Philippe Caseiro < >> pcase...@cadoles.com> >> > > wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > Hi !! >> > > > > >> > > > >Stand request posted ! >> > > > > >> > > > >Now, I will work on some goodies ! >> > > > > >> > > > >Some ideas or proposals ? >> > > > > >> > > > > Regards >> > > > > >> > > > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 14:51:03 CEST, Philippe Caseiro a >> écrit : >> > > > > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 13:19:42 CEST, Andrew Williams a >> écrit : >> > > > > >> Hi, >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> Good shout! I think I could make it this year and would be >> happy to >> > > help >> > > > > >> with the stand and/or put forward a talk (probably around edi >> > > > > >> ;) or getting >> > > > > >> into efl). >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Great ! >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> One proviso: we would have to do it properly - some fixed >> > > > > >> demos, a story to >> > > > > >> tell and probably some stickers too... >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> An empty table with a name behind us made me sad :( >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Yes me to this year we will try to have a nice stand ! >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > Philippe Caseiro >> > > > > >> > > > > Responsable Cadoles Services & Solutions >> > > > > Ingénieur logiciels libres >> > > > > >> > > > > https://www.cadoles.com >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> -- >> > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > > > ___ >> > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > http://andywilliams.me >> > > > http://ajwillia.ms >> > > > >> > > >> -- >> > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> > > > ___ >> > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list >> > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> > > >> > > >> > > -- >> > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" >> -- >> > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com >> > > >> > > -- >> > http://andywilliams.me >> > http://ajwillia.ms >> >> >> -- >> - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- >> Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most >> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot >> ___ >> enlightenment-devel ma
Re: [E-devel] FOSDEM
I'm also coming. Want to book my travel. When is everyone getting there/leaving? I'm thinking doing Friday - Sunday? -- Tom On 17 Dec 2017 15:01, "Carsten Haitzler" wrote: > On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:02:56 + Andrew Williams > said: > > > Hi, > > > > The supplier I work with does not do embroidery. > > Does anyone who will be attending Fosdem have the ability to get a full > > shirt with stitching organised? > > We did before get caps made that are embroidered. i have one. also towels. > cedric i think knows who/where... > > fyi i've booked my travel to fosdem, so i'll be there. :) > > > If not should I go ahead with a t-shirt or do folk feel strongly that it > is > > not suitable for us? > > > > Thanks, > > Andy > > > > p.s. still wondering if folk would pay for their own shirt or if I need > to > > get sponsorship for this? > > > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 at 00:24 Carsten Haitzler > wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:05:07 + Andrew Williams < > a...@andywilliams.me> > > > said: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I reckon stickers are a minimum :) not sure if we can afford more > than > > > that > > > > to give away. > > > > > > > > I also wondered if we should get some new t-shirts - not to give > away but > > > > for a little branding and visibility. Would folk be willing to pay > for > > > > their own shirt? > > > > > > > > I was wondering about “Enlightenment” (with logo) on the front and > maybe > > > > “built on EFL” on the back :) > > > > > > Can we do more stylish than a t-shirt? Like... A proper collared shirt > > > maybe > > > with the logo embroidered? grey/black with white embroidery? :) > > > > > > > Looking forward to it, > > > > Andy > > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 at 14:31, Philippe Caseiro > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi !! > > > > > > > > > >Stand request posted ! > > > > > > > > > >Now, I will work on some goodies ! > > > > > > > > > >Some ideas or proposals ? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 14:51:03 CEST, Philippe Caseiro a > écrit : > > > > > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 13:19:42 CEST, Andrew Williams a > écrit : > > > > > >> Hi, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Good shout! I think I could make it this year and would be > happy to > > > help > > > > > >> with the stand and/or put forward a talk (probably around edi > > > > > >> ;) or getting > > > > > >> into efl). > > > > > > > > > > > > Great ! > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> One proviso: we would have to do it properly - some fixed > > > > > >> demos, a story to > > > > > >> tell and probably some stickers too... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> An empty table with a name behind us made me sad :( > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes me to this year we will try to have a nice stand ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Philippe Caseiro > > > > > > > > > > Responsable Cadoles Services & Solutions > > > > > Ingénieur logiciels libres > > > > > > > > > > https://www.cadoles.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > > ___ > > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > ___ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -- > > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > -- > > http://andywilliams.me > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > -- > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___
Re: [E-devel] FOSDEM 2017
This one is from last year. ;) On 17 Dec 2017 15:01, "Carsten Haitzler" wrote: > On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 14:09:00 +0100 Philippe Caseiro < > caseiro.phili...@gmail.com> > said: > > didn't submit... but i'm coming. :) > > > Hi, falks > > > >Sorry for the late notice I had some personal troubles this year so > > I'm a little bit late. > > > >Please take some time to submit talks this week. > > > >One more time I'm very sorry about that delay and the short notice. > > > > > > > > FOSDEM is one of the largest (5,000+ hackers!) gatherings of Free > > Software contributors in the world and happens each February in > > Brussels (Belgium, Europe). Once again, one of the tracks will be the > > Desktops DevRoom (formerly known as “CrossDesktop DevRoom”), which > > will host Desktop-related talks. > > > > We are now inviting proposals for talks about Free/Libre/Open-source > > Software on the topics of Desktop development, Desktop applications > > and interoperability amongst Desktop Environments. This is a unique > > opportunity to show novel ideas and developments to a wide technical > > audience. > > > > Topics accepted include, but are not limited to: > > > > Open Desktops: Gnome, KDE, Unity, Enlightenment, XFCE, Razor, MATE, > > Cinnamon, ReactOS, CDE etc > > Closed desktops: Windows, Mac OS X, MorphOS, etc (when talking about a > > FLOSS topic) > > Software development for the desktop > > Development tools > > Applications that enhance desktops > > General desktop matters > > Cross-platform software development > > Web > > Thin clients, desktop virtualiation, etc > > > > Talks can be very specific, such as the advantages/disadvantages of > > distributing a desktop application with snap vs flatpak, or as general > > as using HTML5 technologies to develop native applications. > > > > Topics that are of interest to the users and developers of all desktop > > environments are especially welcome. The FOSDEM 2016 schedule might > > give you some inspiration. > > > > > > Submissions > > > > Please include the following information when submitting a proposal: > > > > Your name > > The title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles will be > > listed with around 400 from other projects) > > Short abstract of one or two paragraphs > > Short bio (with photo) > > Requested time: from 15 to 45 minutes. Normal duration is 30 minutes. > > Longer duration requests must be properly justified. You may be > > assigned LESS time than you request. > > > > How to submit > > > > All submissions are made in the Pentabarf event planning tool: > > https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM17 > > > > To submit your talk, click on "Create Event", then make sure to select > > the “Desktops” devroom as the “Track”. Otherwise your talk will not be > > even considered for any devroom at all. > > > > If you already have a Pentabarf account from a previous year, even if > > your talk was not accepted, please reuse it. Create an account if, and > > only if, you don’t have one from a previous year. If you have any > > issues with Pentabarf, please contact desktops-devroom AT lists DOT > > fosdem DOT org. > > > > > > Deadline > > > > The deadline for submissions is December 5th 2016. > > > > FOSDEM will be held on the weekend of 4 & 5 February 2017 and the > > Desktops DevRoom will take place on Sunday, February 5th 2017. > > > > We will contact every submitter with a “yes” or “no” before December 11th > > 2016. > > > > Recording permission > > > > The talks in the Desktops DevRoom will be audio and video recorded, > > and possibly streamed live too. > > > > In the "Submission notes" field, please indicate that you agree that > > your presentation will be licensed under the CC-By-SA-4.0 or CC-By-4.0 > > license and that you agree to have your presentation recorded. For > > example: > > > > "If my presentation is accepted for FOSDEM, I hereby agree to license > > all recordings, slides, and other associated materials under the > > Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0 International License. > > Sincerely, ." > > > > If you want us to stop the recording in the Q & A part (should you > > have one), please tell us. We can do that but only for the Q & A part. > > > > More information > > > > The official communication channel for the Desktops DevRoom is its > > mailing list desktops-devr...@lists.fosdem.org. > > > > Use this page to manage your subscription: > > https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/desktops-devroom > > > > > > Organization > > > > The Desktops DevRoom 2017 is managed by a team representing the most > > notable open desktops: > > > > Pau Garcia i Quiles, KDE > > Christophe Fergeau, Gnome > > Michael Zanetti, Unity > > Philippe Caseiro, Enlightenment > > Jérome Leclanche, Razor > > > > If you want to join the team, please contact desktops-devroom AT lists > > DOT fosdem DOT org. > > > > > > > > -- > > Philippe Caseiro > > > > Change your computer life > > http://www.sourcemage.org > > http://www.enlightenment.org > >
Re: [E-devel] FOSDEM 2017
On Mon, 5 Dec 2016 14:09:00 +0100 Philippe Caseiro said: didn't submit... but i'm coming. :) > Hi, falks > >Sorry for the late notice I had some personal troubles this year so > I'm a little bit late. > >Please take some time to submit talks this week. > >One more time I'm very sorry about that delay and the short notice. > > > > FOSDEM is one of the largest (5,000+ hackers!) gatherings of Free > Software contributors in the world and happens each February in > Brussels (Belgium, Europe). Once again, one of the tracks will be the > Desktops DevRoom (formerly known as “CrossDesktop DevRoom”), which > will host Desktop-related talks. > > We are now inviting proposals for talks about Free/Libre/Open-source > Software on the topics of Desktop development, Desktop applications > and interoperability amongst Desktop Environments. This is a unique > opportunity to show novel ideas and developments to a wide technical > audience. > > Topics accepted include, but are not limited to: > > Open Desktops: Gnome, KDE, Unity, Enlightenment, XFCE, Razor, MATE, > Cinnamon, ReactOS, CDE etc > Closed desktops: Windows, Mac OS X, MorphOS, etc (when talking about a > FLOSS topic) > Software development for the desktop > Development tools > Applications that enhance desktops > General desktop matters > Cross-platform software development > Web > Thin clients, desktop virtualiation, etc > > Talks can be very specific, such as the advantages/disadvantages of > distributing a desktop application with snap vs flatpak, or as general > as using HTML5 technologies to develop native applications. > > Topics that are of interest to the users and developers of all desktop > environments are especially welcome. The FOSDEM 2016 schedule might > give you some inspiration. > > > Submissions > > Please include the following information when submitting a proposal: > > Your name > The title of your talk (please be descriptive, as titles will be > listed with around 400 from other projects) > Short abstract of one or two paragraphs > Short bio (with photo) > Requested time: from 15 to 45 minutes. Normal duration is 30 minutes. > Longer duration requests must be properly justified. You may be > assigned LESS time than you request. > > How to submit > > All submissions are made in the Pentabarf event planning tool: > https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM17 > > To submit your talk, click on "Create Event", then make sure to select > the “Desktops” devroom as the “Track”. Otherwise your talk will not be > even considered for any devroom at all. > > If you already have a Pentabarf account from a previous year, even if > your talk was not accepted, please reuse it. Create an account if, and > only if, you don’t have one from a previous year. If you have any > issues with Pentabarf, please contact desktops-devroom AT lists DOT > fosdem DOT org. > > > Deadline > > The deadline for submissions is December 5th 2016. > > FOSDEM will be held on the weekend of 4 & 5 February 2017 and the > Desktops DevRoom will take place on Sunday, February 5th 2017. > > We will contact every submitter with a “yes” or “no” before December 11th > 2016. > > Recording permission > > The talks in the Desktops DevRoom will be audio and video recorded, > and possibly streamed live too. > > In the "Submission notes" field, please indicate that you agree that > your presentation will be licensed under the CC-By-SA-4.0 or CC-By-4.0 > license and that you agree to have your presentation recorded. For > example: > > "If my presentation is accepted for FOSDEM, I hereby agree to license > all recordings, slides, and other associated materials under the > Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 4.0 International License. > Sincerely, ." > > If you want us to stop the recording in the Q & A part (should you > have one), please tell us. We can do that but only for the Q & A part. > > More information > > The official communication channel for the Desktops DevRoom is its > mailing list desktops-devr...@lists.fosdem.org. > > Use this page to manage your subscription: > https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/desktops-devroom > > > Organization > > The Desktops DevRoom 2017 is managed by a team representing the most > notable open desktops: > > Pau Garcia i Quiles, KDE > Christophe Fergeau, Gnome > Michael Zanetti, Unity > Philippe Caseiro, Enlightenment > Jérome Leclanche, Razor > > If you want to join the team, please contact desktops-devroom AT lists > DOT fosdem DOT org. > > > > -- > Philippe Caseiro > > Change your computer life > http://www.sourcemage.org > http://www.enlightenment.org > http://www.enlightenment.fr > http://www.archlinux.org > > -- > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --
Re: [E-devel] FOSDEM
On Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:02:56 + Andrew Williams said: > Hi, > > The supplier I work with does not do embroidery. > Does anyone who will be attending Fosdem have the ability to get a full > shirt with stitching organised? We did before get caps made that are embroidered. i have one. also towels. cedric i think knows who/where... fyi i've booked my travel to fosdem, so i'll be there. :) > If not should I go ahead with a t-shirt or do folk feel strongly that it is > not suitable for us? > > Thanks, > Andy > > p.s. still wondering if folk would pay for their own shirt or if I need to > get sponsorship for this? > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2017 at 00:24 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:05:07 + Andrew Williams > > said: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I reckon stickers are a minimum :) not sure if we can afford more than > > that > > > to give away. > > > > > > I also wondered if we should get some new t-shirts - not to give away but > > > for a little branding and visibility. Would folk be willing to pay for > > > their own shirt? > > > > > > I was wondering about “Enlightenment” (with logo) on the front and maybe > > > “built on EFL” on the back :) > > > > Can we do more stylish than a t-shirt? Like... A proper collared shirt > > maybe > > with the logo embroidered? grey/black with white embroidery? :) > > > > > Looking forward to it, > > > Andy > > > On Mon, 23 Oct 2017 at 14:31, Philippe Caseiro > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi !! > > > > > > > >Stand request posted ! > > > > > > > >Now, I will work on some goodies ! > > > > > > > >Some ideas or proposals ? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 14:51:03 CEST, Philippe Caseiro a écrit : > > > > > Le mercredi 11 octobre 2017 13:19:42 CEST, Andrew Williams a écrit : > > > > >> Hi, > > > > >> > > > > >> Good shout! I think I could make it this year and would be happy to > > help > > > > >> with the stand and/or put forward a talk (probably around edi > > > > >> ;) or getting > > > > >> into efl). > > > > > > > > > > Great ! > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> One proviso: we would have to do it properly - some fixed > > > > >> demos, a story to > > > > >> tell and probably some stickers too... > > > > >> > > > > >> An empty table with a name behind us made me sad :( > > > > > > > > > > Yes me to this year we will try to have a nice stand ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Philippe Caseiro > > > > > > > > Responsable Cadoles Services & Solutions > > > > Ingénieur logiciels libres > > > > > > > > https://www.cadoles.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > > ___ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > -- > > > http://andywilliams.me > > > http://ajwillia.ms > > > > > -- > > > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > > > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > > > ___ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > -- > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > > Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com > > > > -- > http://andywilliams.me > http://ajwillia.ms -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Is luajit/lua-old a hard dependency of EFL 1.20.6?
On 2017-12-17 Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 07:21:41 +0100 Andreas Metzler said:
[...]
>> luajit generally has support for arm64 but EFL breaks with "bad light
>> userdata pointer" (T6156), so as a workaround we have switched to
>> lua-old on Debian/arm64.
> well luajit didn't even document this limitation until fairly recently
> (end of 2016). in fact it's a limitation for x86-64 too... for a long
> time before being documented. it's a very very very odd thing to limit
> and no one would expect a pointer can only use a limited number of
> bits for the address unless clearly and distinctly documented. (the
> pull request came in end of 2016, and luajit is STILL broken for 52bit
> addressing for example). my take is that luajit is basically broken on
> 64bit as it makes major assumptions on the VALUE of an address - if
> the kernel were to remap elsewhere in virtual memory in certain ways
> it'd still be broken if we just used basic raw pointers. adding the
> documentation at least kind of helps... but it's still a major design
> error. we've worked around it in git by now.
Hello,
my layman's reading of the respective bug-reports also was that the
respective luajit interface was broken. Is the suggested solution
("switch to FFI bindings") a real solution?
Will the workaround in EFL GIT possibly end up in a 1.20.x release or is
t strictly 1.21 material?
TIA, cu Andreas
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Re: [E-devel] Is luajit/lua-old a hard dependency of EFL 1.20.6?
On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 07:21:41 +0100 Andreas Metzler said: > On 2017-12-17 Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:08:11 +0100 Andreas Metzler said: > > >> (sid):/tmp/EFL/efl-1.20.6$ ./configure --help | grep -i lua > >> --enable-lua-oldEnable interpreted Lua support (5.1 or 5.2). > >> --enable-elua enable ELUA support. [default=enabled] > >> --with-elua=PATHspecify a specific path to elua [default=elua] > >> --with-bin-elua=PATHspecify a specific path to elua [default=elua] > > >> seemed to /suggest/ to me that EFL could be built without lua support. > >> However even with > > > it cannot. choices are luajit or "old regular lua". and even then old > > regular lua is basically being deprecated. > > Hello, > > Thanks for the explanation. > > > the new luajit release in beta has arm64 > > support now, so ... it's pretty much time to move on. > [...] > > luajit generally has support for arm64 but EFL breaks with "bad light > userdata pointer" (T6156), so as a workaround we have switched to > lua-old on Debian/arm64. well luajit didn't even document this limitation until fairly recently (end of 2016). in fact it's a limitation for x86-64 too... for a long time before being documented. it's a very very very odd thing to limit and no one would expect a pointer can only use a limited number of bits for the address unless clearly and distinctly documented. (the pull request came in end of 2016, and luajit is STILL broken for 52bit addressing for example). my take is that luajit is basically broken on 64bit as it makes major assumptions on the VALUE of an address - if the kernel were to remap elsewhere in virtual memory in certain ways it'd still be broken if we just used basic raw pointers. adding the documentation at least kind of helps... but it's still a major design error. we've worked around it in git by now. > cu Andreas > -- > `What a good friend you are to him, Dr. Maturin. His other friends are > so grateful to you.' > `I sew his ears on from time to time, sure' > > -- > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
