[E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
Hi all, I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well as its conf_exebuf. For those that never used exebuf, try it. See the page at http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Gadgets/Everything for tips and tricks. So far it can do, amongst other functions: - math using "bc", copying to clipboard - check spelling with "aspell", copying to clipboard - launch using sudo, xterm... - open documents, being able to choose which application to use (same as "Open with...") - thumbnail navigation, at various thumb sizes - fancy graphics when using composite manager, reasonable graphics otherwise - list and control your music player More could be added, like searching the web and so on. It is extensible by means of modules. BR, -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > as its conf_exebuf. create a poll with doodle :p Vincent > > For those that never used exebuf, try it. See the page at > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Gadgets/Everything for tips and > tricks. So far it can do, amongst other functions: >- math using "bc", copying to clipboard >- check spelling with "aspell", copying to clipboard >- launch using sudo, xterm... >- open documents, being able to choose which application to use > (same as "Open with...") >- thumbnail navigation, at various thumb sizes >- fancy graphics when using composite manager, reasonable graphics > otherwise >- list and control your music player > > More could be added, like searching the web and so on. It is > extensible by means of modules. > > BR, > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -- > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
Just yesterday I made a comment to the author saying how awesome the module is. I added a couple extra options to the poll! http://www.doodle.com/9swbg395tkug7qzw Voting closes in a week or when there is a clear winner. Toma. On 11 April 2010 06:43, Vincent Torri wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by >> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not >> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well >> as its conf_exebuf. > > create a poll with doodle :p > > Vincent > >> >> For those that never used exebuf, try it. See the page at >> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Gadgets/Everything for tips and >> tricks. So far it can do, amongst other functions: >> - math using "bc", copying to clipboard >> - check spelling with "aspell", copying to clipboard >> - launch using sudo, xterm... >> - open documents, being able to choose which application to use >> (same as "Open with...") >> - thumbnail navigation, at various thumb sizes >> - fancy graphics when using composite manager, reasonable graphics >> otherwise >> - list and control your music player >> >> More could be added, like searching the web and so on. It is >> extensible by means of modules. >> >> BR, >> >> -- >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> http://profusion.mobi embedded systems >> -- >> MSN: barbi...@gmail.com >> Skype: gsbarbieri >> Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 >> >> -- >> Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval >> Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs >> proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. >> See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev >> ___ >> enlightenment-devel mailing list >> enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel >> >> > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > as its conf_exebuf. Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. My question would be rather for a good keybinding. But maybe it's just me for whom alt+esc is too much movement of the hands (with getting back to the home row) for using it regularly. I prefer ctrl+space (with ctrl on caps lock) as one can hold ctrl to select the plugin (e.g. ctrl+space,p for playlist). I would like to collect some preferences for this and if anyone has some. Regards, Hannes > For those that never used exebuf, try it. See the page at > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Gadgets/Everything for tips and > tricks. So far it can do, amongst other functions: > - math using "bc", copying to clipboard > - check spelling with "aspell", copying to clipboard > - launch using sudo, xterm... > - open documents, being able to choose which application to use > (same as "Open with...") > - thumbnail navigation, at various thumb sizes > - fancy graphics when using composite manager, reasonable graphics > otherwise > - list and control your music player > > More could be added, like searching the web and so on. It is > extensible by means of modules. > > BR, > > -- > Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > http://profusion.mobi embedded systems > -- > MSN: barbi...@gmail.com > Skype: gsbarbieri > Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by >> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not >> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well >> as its conf_exebuf. > > Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs > to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of Everything, they can still enable that. dh My question > would be rather for a good keybinding. But maybe it's just me for whom > alt+esc is too much movement of the hands (with getting back to the > home row) for using it regularly. I prefer ctrl+space (with ctrl on > caps lock) as one can hold ctrl to select the plugin (e.g. > ctrl+space,p for playlist). I would like to collect some preferences > for this and if anyone has some. > > Regards, > Hannes > > >> For those that never used exebuf, try it. See the page at >> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Gadgets/Everything for tips and >> tricks. So far it can do, amongst other functions: >> - math using "bc", copying to clipboard >> - check spelling with "aspell", copying to clipboard >> - launch using sudo, xterm... >> - open documents, being able to choose which application to use >> (same as "Open with...") >> - thumbnail navigation, at various thumb sizes >> - fancy graphics when using composite manager, reasonable graphics >> otherwise >> - list and control your music player >> >> More could be added, like searching the web and so on. It is >> extensible by means of modules. >> >> BR, >> >> -- >> Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> http://profusion.mobi embedded systems >> -- >> MSN: barbi...@gmail.com >> Skype: gsbarbieri >> Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 >> -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Michael wrote: > On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> wrote: >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by >>> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not >>> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well >>> as its conf_exebuf. >> >> Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs >> to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. > > Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be > just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for > users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of > Everything, they can still enable that. > For regular use, Everything is just the same as exebuf, as light, as simple... drop in replacement. Just type and press enter. That's it. But if you want more, you get more. IMHO it makes no sense to keep both. AFAIK raster is the one maintaining exebuf, as he has many, many stuff in SVN I guess he wouldn't be jealous to drop exebuf to get everything in. Actually it would be less work on his back, as Hannes is doing an amazing maintenance work with "Everything". :-) BR, -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On 04/10/2010 08:36 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Michael > wrote: >> On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: >>> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >>> wrote: Hi all, I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well as its conf_exebuf. >>> >>> Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs >>> to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. >> >> Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be >> just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for >> users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of >> Everything, they can still enable that. >> > > For regular use, Everything is just the same as exebuf, as light, as > simple... drop in replacement. Just type and press enter. That's it. > But if you want more, you get more. > > IMHO it makes no sense to keep both. AFAIK raster is the one > maintaining exebuf, as he has many, many stuff in SVN I guess he > wouldn't be jealous to drop exebuf to get everything in. Actually it > would be less work on his back, as Hannes is doing an amazing > maintenance work with "Everything". :-) > > BR, > Eh, doesn't matter to me really. Do whatever you want...I don't use either of them anyway :) dh -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 02:40, Christopher Michael wrote: > On 04/10/2010 08:36 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Michael >> wrote: >>> On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > as its conf_exebuf. Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. >>> >>> Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be >>> just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for >>> users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of >>> Everything, they can still enable that. >>> >> >> For regular use, Everything is just the same as exebuf, as light, as >> simple... drop in replacement. Just type and press enter. That's it. >> But if you want more, you get more. >> >> IMHO it makes no sense to keep both. AFAIK raster is the one >> maintaining exebuf, as he has many, many stuff in SVN I guess he >> wouldn't be jealous to drop exebuf to get everything in. Actually it >> would be less work on his back, as Hannes is doing an amazing >> maintenance work with "Everything". :-) >> >> BR, >> > Eh, doesn't matter to me really. Do whatever you want...I don't use > either of them anyway :) > > dh I use 'everything' almost since it's available, and I love it. Normally I wouldn't care, because exebuf did its job well, but I think 'everything' should replace it as default, because it does the same just as well - but much more. New users shouldn't have to try everything (literally :) to find the cool features, but it should be possible to keep 'exebuf' for those who want nothing else. Also I'd like to use this to thank and congratulate Hannes for his great work on this module. -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
If the everything module can be stripped down to the size of exebuf with the same functionality, then that's a win for memory constrained systems. That leaves the option open to add more everything bits if wanted and they fit and avoids duplicated functionality. When I compile the second life viewer, apparently my 2 GB system IS a memory constrained system. lol -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On 11 April 2010 12:42, David Seikel wrote: > If the everything module can be stripped down to the size of exebuf with > the same functionality, then that's a win for memory constrained > systems. That leaves the option open to add more everything bits if > wanted and they fit and avoids duplicated functionality. > > When I compile the second life viewer, apparently my 2 GB system IS a > memory constrained system. lol > I ran a few tests on this this morning, and I found a very negligible difference in memory usage. Its only recently been able to load individual plugins as modules, so running the basic module + applications was exactly like running Exebuf. Id like to get a 2nd opinion on memory usage comparisons between the 2 though. Toma > -- > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. ^ Awesome. > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
I'd keep both of them and load both by default, so every user can try them and choose what he/she prefer in that particular moment, i.e. one would choose exebuf to just run a simple command and choose everything if wants to perform a more complex task. also, they should have different icons to remark they are different things. while we're at it, is there any particular reason why the everything module is excluded from localization? is there any objection if I enable it in POTFILES.in? -- Massimo Maiurana massimoragusa.linux.it http://massimo.solira.orgGPG keyID #7044D601 Creare l'uomo fu un'idea bizzarra e originale, ma aggiungere la pecora fu una tautologia. [Mark Twain] signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:43 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote : > Hi all, > > I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > as its conf_exebuf. Speaking of which… I just recompiled from SVN, and everything (which I have been using as a replacement for exebuf for a long time) now uses modules. That's all nice and awesome, but please do enable those modules by default. Updating e17 and not being able to do anything with everything (heh) anymore is just plain annoying. Cheers, -- Albin Tonnerre -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Albin Tonnerre wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:43 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote : >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by >> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not >> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well >> as its conf_exebuf. > > Speaking of which… I just recompiled from SVN, and everything (which I have > been > using as a replacement for exebuf for a long time) now uses modules. That's > all > nice and awesome, but please do enable those modules by default. Updating e17 > and not being able to do anything with everything (heh) anymore is just plain > annoying. > The modules are enabled by default in standard profile. Dont know if and how one should update old configs automatically. Regards, Hannes > Cheers, > -- > Albin Tonnerre > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:19 +0200, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote : > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Albin Tonnerre > wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:43 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote : > >> Hi all, > >> > >> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > >> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > >> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > >> as its conf_exebuf. > > > > Speaking of which… I just recompiled from SVN, and everything (which I have > > been > > using as a replacement for exebuf for a long time) now uses modules. That's > > all > > nice and awesome, but please do enable those modules by default. Updating > > e17 > > and not being able to do anything with everything (heh) anymore is just > > plain > > annoying. > > > > The modules are enabled by default in standard profile. Dont know if > and how one should update old configs automatically. I know it's possible to add new default values on upgrades, but I don't whether that's also true for modules. Raster: is there any way to make a module automatically loaded when upgrading to a new version ? Regards, -- Albin Tonnerre -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:38 PM, Massimo Maiurana wrote: > I'd keep both of them and load both by default, so every user can try them and > choose what he/she prefer in that particular moment, i.e. one would choose > exebuf to just run a simple command and choose everything if wants to perform > a more complex task. > also, they should have different icons to remark they are different things. This is highly pointless. They do the same thing, there is no point in enabling one. Nobody in earth should think about "will I launch something with A, B or C", this is just bad usability. > while we're at it, is there any particular reason why the everything module is > excluded from localization? is there any objection if I enable it in > POTFILES.in? of course not, go for it. -- Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri http://profusion.mobi embedded systems -- MSN: barbi...@gmail.com Skype: gsbarbieri Mobile: +55 (19) 9225-2202 -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 17:11:55 +0200 Albin Tonnerre said: > On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 16:19 +0200, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote : > > On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 3:04 PM, Albin Tonnerre > > wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:43 -0300, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri wrote : > > >> Hi all, > > >> > > >> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > > >> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > > >> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > > >> as its conf_exebuf. > > > > > > Speaking of which… I just recompiled from SVN, and everything (which I > > > have been using as a replacement for exebuf for a long time) now uses > > > modules. That's all nice and awesome, but please do enable those modules > > > by default. Updating e17 and not being able to do anything with > > > everything (heh) anymore is just plain annoying. > > > > > > > The modules are enabled by default in standard profile. Dont know if > > and how one should update old configs automatically. > > I know it's possible to add new default values on upgrades, but I don't > whether that's also true for modules. Raster: is there any way to make a > module automatically loaded when upgrading to a new version ? there is - the module needs to handle its own config versioniing and "do the right thing" here. remember - e is "in svn" - unreleased. any versioning handling is simply practice for the future. it isn't strictly needed until 0.17.0 is out. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:36:10 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri said: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Michael > wrote: > > On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> wrote: > >>> Hi all, > >>> > >>> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > >>> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > >>> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > >>> as its conf_exebuf. > >> > >> Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs > >> to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. > > > > Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be > > just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for > > users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of > > Everything, they can still enable that. > > > > For regular use, Everything is just the same as exebuf, as light, as > simple... drop in replacement. Just type and press enter. That's it. > But if you want more, you get more. > > IMHO it makes no sense to keep both. AFAIK raster is the one > maintaining exebuf, as he has many, many stuff in SVN I guess he > wouldn't be jealous to drop exebuf to get everything in. Actually it > would be less work on his back, as Hannes is doing an amazing > maintenance work with "Everything". :-) not jealous at all to have exebuf go - evrythng seems to do the job almost as well (i'll say it doesn't have an extensive selection mechanism for matches like exebuf - ie list up and down), but that can be cured in time. exebuf was an advanced featur hidden away in a key binding for those that quickly want a power of a terminal to run 1 thing, but dont want to bring up the term, focus it, run, quit, etc. -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
http://www.doodle.com/9swbg395tkug7qzw Closed! It was a serious majority so I figured Id just close it. Winning vote was to replace Exebuf with Everything, and move Exebuf to E-MODULES-EXTRA. On 12 April 2010 16:43, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:36:10 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > said: > >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Michael >> wrote: >> > On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri >> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> >> >>> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by >> >>> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not >> >>> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well >> >>> as its conf_exebuf. >> >> >> >> Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs >> >> to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. >> > >> > Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be >> > just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for >> > users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of >> > Everything, they can still enable that. >> > >> >> For regular use, Everything is just the same as exebuf, as light, as >> simple... drop in replacement. Just type and press enter. That's it. >> But if you want more, you get more. >> >> IMHO it makes no sense to keep both. AFAIK raster is the one >> maintaining exebuf, as he has many, many stuff in SVN I guess he >> wouldn't be jealous to drop exebuf to get everything in. Actually it >> would be less work on his back, as Hannes is doing an amazing >> maintenance work with "Everything". :-) > > not jealous at all to have exebuf go - evrythng seems to do the job almost as > well (i'll say it doesn't have an extensive selection mechanism for matches > like exebuf - ie list up and down), but that can be cured in time. exebuf was > an advanced featur hidden away in a key binding for those that quickly want a > power of a terminal to run 1 thing, but dont want to bring up the term, focus > it, run, quit, etc. > > -- > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Dumping Exebuf in favor of Everything?
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:55:03 +0800 Tom Haste said: just some notes - it'd be nice for everything to suck in remaining exebuf features. like 1. being able to do parameters to cmds (maybe either filename complete them - but at a minimum allow raw typing of them - especially if not filenames, but options). also as i said before - history list display and "best matches" list would be nice! :) > http://www.doodle.com/9swbg395tkug7qzw > > Closed! It was a serious majority so I figured Id just close it. > > Winning vote was to replace Exebuf with Everything, and move Exebuf to > E-MODULES-EXTRA. > > > > On 12 April 2010 16:43, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:36:10 -0800 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > > said: > > > >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Christopher Michael > >> wrote: > >> > On 04/10/2010 08:14 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com wrote: > >> >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> Hi all, > >> >>> > >> >>> I'd like to call a voting to dump Exebuf and use Everything by > >> >>> default. It is fancier, it is more powerful and i see no reason to not > >> >>> do it. exebuf can be then disabled or just removed from SVN, as well > >> >>> as its conf_exebuf. > >> >> > >> >> Voting for making Everything default :) I'm not sure if exebuf needs > >> >> to be removed as some just want the simple app launcher. > >> > > >> > Yea, I vote for leaving things as they are. Exebuf was designed to be > >> > just a simple launcher to be able to run apps. It's light, simple for > >> > users to understand, and fast. If someone wants the added "fluff" of > >> > Everything, they can still enable that. > >> > > >> > >> For regular use, Everything is just the same as exebuf, as light, as > >> simple... drop in replacement. Just type and press enter. That's it. > >> But if you want more, you get more. > >> > >> IMHO it makes no sense to keep both. AFAIK raster is the one > >> maintaining exebuf, as he has many, many stuff in SVN I guess he > >> wouldn't be jealous to drop exebuf to get everything in. Actually it > >> would be less work on his back, as Hannes is doing an amazing > >> maintenance work with "Everything". :-) > > > > not jealous at all to have exebuf go - evrythng seems to do the job almost > > as well (i'll say it doesn't have an extensive selection mechanism for > > matches like exebuf - ie list up and down), but that can be cured in time. > > exebuf was an advanced featur hidden away in a key binding for those that > > quickly want a power of a terminal to run 1 thing, but dont want to bring > > up the term, focus it, run, quit, etc. > > > > -- > > - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > -- > > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > > ___ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > -- > Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval > Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs > proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. > See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs proactively, and fine-tune applications for parallel performance. See why Intel Parallel Studio got high marks during beta. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-sw-dev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
