[E-devel] Im new here!

2004-11-26 Thread Douglas De Toni
Hello everyone, Im new to this list and just want to introduce myself:
Im Douglas from Brasil, Im student of Eletric Engineer, linux user and system administrador as profession.
I used englightenment for years and always wanted to help in some way but never had the iniciative to do it, now I want to contribute in any way I can. To start with it I think I could translate the incoming E17 to portuguese, the programs tools and documentations its a lot of work but I can find some help over here!!
After that if my C skills grow faster and faster maybe I can get my hands in some code ?? : )
 
 
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Douglas
 
 
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Re: [E-devel] Im new here!

2004-11-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:00:14 -0300, Douglas De Toni said:
> To start with it I think I could translate the incoming E17 to portuguese, the
> programs tools and documentations its a lot of work but I can find some
> help over here!!

Feel free - translation is something that very rarely gets done by the core
coders, simply because they don't speak Portuguese or Chinese or Swedish
or whatever. So volunteers who read/write the language are always appreciated.

(I'd do a Latvian translation, except that although my Latvian is good enough
to deal with a newspaper or a TV broadcast, my technical Latvian is 
non-existent.
You rarely see "iconify" in the newspaper. :)

> After that if my C skills grow faster and faster maybe I can get my hands in 
> some code ?? : )

A good way to get started on this is to find a bug, quirk, or irritating
misfeature, and fix it - quite often a bug is (a) caused by an error that only
affects a few lines of code (forget to initialize something, or do 2 things in
the wrong order, etc), and (b) not something that the original programmer can
easily duplicate for debugging.  Don't worry if you find the problem and don't
know how to fix it - quite often, being able to narrow it down from "The window
manager suddenly dies" to one function and say "This routine does  wrong
thing, but I'm not sure what's right here" is enough to let somebody else fix
it.

Just this week, I learned more than I ever wanted to about the Linux kernel's
handling of ioperm() while tracking down a 2-line error in Ingo Molnar's
latency patches that caused a nasty memory leak - and I suspect I'm literally
the only user who runs both Ingo's patches *and* the buggy gkrellm plug-in that
made the leak noticeable. So I ended up fixing 2 separate small bugs that
combined to cause major issues on my laptop..

And the importance of having a small army of people finding and fixing these
little 2 and 3 line errors cannot be underestimated - I suspect that there
isn't any truly successful open-source project that doesn't have such an 
army


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Re: [E-devel] Im new here!

2004-11-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Fri, 26 Nov 2004 09:00:14 -0300 (ART) Douglas De Toni
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(B> Hello everyone, Im new to this list and just want to introduce myself:
(B> Im Douglas from Brasil, Im student of Eletric Engineer, linux user and system
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(B> contribute in any way I can. To start with it I think I could translate the
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(Bwho is a good programmer looking at the code. getting their head around it -
(Bwhere things are etc. i even wrote a document (in doc/ in e17's wm tree) to help
(Bguide you. of course many parts are not 100% complete - some are only partially.
(Bit's limited in features, icccm compliance and netwm/mwm etc. hint support. but
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(Bhttp://www.enlightenment.org/t/ - if you are SERIOUS about helping (writing
(Bcontent, fixing up the theme/look, writing docs, articles, etc.) let us know. we
(Bwill need to port the existing content over, fix up the look and feel a bit,
(Betc. etc.
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