Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 10:17:19 +1000, Nick Blievers said: > I dont disagree that a simple GUI editor should be the default but lets do it > the Unix way, and > have an EDITOR variable set. Else we end up with yet another way of setting the > default editor. This loses big time for those people who have EDITOR set to something that will DTRT when invoked in any sort of vt-100 emulator (everything from a Linux console to a telnet/ssh to an xterm). "The Unix Way" has long assumed that using your shell's version of 'export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vi' will do something reasonable. And in fact, that's quite sane until some application decides that $EDITOR is presumed to be smart enough to open an X window all by itself, without a 'FooTerm -e $EDITOR $*' wrapper to do the windowing stuff for it. Using $XEDITOR instead, to denote a GUI-aware editor, might be a good idea pgpoY2CtbluFt.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
Shish wrote: i realize this may not sound as sexy, but couldn't we set the mime option for text to something like "eterm -e '$TEXTEDITOR'"? Can we please use an option like the above. I am not about to start a flame war, but everyone has their favorite editor, and most likely already has EDITOR or VISUAL defined to it. If you know how to use a console based editor, you're probably smart enough to set your own filetype associations; If you don't know how to change defaults, you're probably the sort of person who needs a simple graphical editor. Hence e-notepad would be the better default. I dont disagree that a simple GUI editor should be the default but lets do it the Unix way, and have an EDITOR variable set. Else we end up with yet another way of setting the default editor. Nick -- "Mom and dad say I should make my life an example of the principles I believe in. But every time I do, they tell me to stop it." --- Calvin --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
Shish wrote:
i realize this may not sound as sexy, but couldn't we set the mime
option for text to something like "eterm -e '$TEXTEDITOR'"?
Can we please use an option like the above. I am not about to start a flame war, but everyone has
their favorite editor, and most likely already has EDITOR or VISUAL defined to it.
My 2c.
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Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
I think that the libraries were supposed to get a little more polishing before we jumped into all the apps, but this may have changed. Try looking through all the libraries for todo lists (there are lots) and see if any tickle your fancy/expertise... Andy Shish wrote: Now, the question is: what can I do? =) Looking through MIME types... audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to cover all the root categories first :) -- Shish __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
I took a quick look at the tofu page, I have never seen anything like it before but It makes a lot of sense to have a a textviewer thats focused on what we do most -read - instead of Just Another TextEditor. Sounds like a fun project and something that could acually be useable aswell =) Barry Dmytro wrote: About the text viewer... I used a text viewer on OSX once called tofu that I like a lot. http://homepage.mac.com/asagoo/tofu/index.html I would love to work on something like this with someone. As far as a text editor, there are so many bad ones out there already do we really need to make another? * Shish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Now, the question is: what can I do? =) Looking through MIME types... audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to cover all the root categories first :) -- Shish Kind Regards, Barry Dmytro [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://badcherry.org/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
I took a quick look at the tofu page, I have never seen anything like it before but It makes a lot of sense to have a a textviewer thats focused on what we do most -read- instead of Just Another TextEditor. Sounds like a fun project and something that could acually be useable aswell =) Barry Dmytro wrote: About the text viewer... I used a text viewer on OSX once called tofu that I like a lot. http://homepage.mac.com/asagoo/tofu/index.html I would love to work on something like this with someone. As far as a text editor, there are so many bad ones out there already do we really need to make another? * Shish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Now, the question is: what can I do? =) Looking through MIME types... audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to cover all the root categories first :) -- Shish Kind Regards, Barry Dmytro [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://badcherry.org/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
> i realize this may not sound as sexy, but couldn't we set the mime
> option for text to something like "eterm -e '$TEXTEDITOR'"?
I'd use that myself, but I'd also like to see E17 become a desktop environment
to the point where the command line is no longer a necessity (so I can get my
less-computer literate friends to use it :), thus things like this are needed.
Also, how does one set a mime option? Currently I do everything from the
command line, but it'd still be nice to know how to do filetype associations
should I want to set up an E based desktop for someone else :)
(I got writing this, realised it was somewhat offtopic, but I though I'd post
it on the odd chance that my proof of concept is a better design than the
current code. Probably not, but I've spent 5 minutes thinking about it and I
don't like to waste thinking time, so I thought I'd show it anyway :)
How does it work anyway? I'd do something like so (very messy, just a proof of
concept):
] # load this from a database of some sort
] $associations = {
]"text/plain" => {"edit" => "gedit"},
]"text/html" => {"view" => "mozilla", "edit" => "eterm -e vim"},
] }
] sub rightClick($filename) {
] $mimetype = system("file --mime $filename");
] foreach($associations[$mimetype]) {
] menu.addItem($key);
] menu.item($key).onClick = system("$value $filename");
] }
] }
] sub doubleClick($filename) {
] $mimetype = system("file --mime $filename");
] # action 0 is the default
] system("$associations[$mimetype][0] $filename");
] }
-- Shish
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Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
On Thu, 2004-08-05 at 05:41, Barry Dmytro wrote: > About the text viewer... > I used a text viewer on OSX once called tofu that I like a lot. > http://homepage.mac.com/asagoo/tofu/index.html > I would love to work on something like this with someone. As > far as a text editor, there are so many bad ones out there already > do we really need to make another? I dont see an issue with implementing another based on the EFL I'd personally be making use of any EFL based app I can get my hands on :) . The more apps around based on the EFL the more uniform the enlightenment experience is :) Cheers Dale. > > * Shish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Now, the question is: what can I do? =) > > > > Looking through MIME types... > > > > audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? > > image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? > > video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? > > text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? > > > > So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / > > editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to > > cover all the root categories first :) > > > > -- Shish > > > > Kind Regards, > > Barry Dmytro > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://badcherry.org/ > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
i realize this may not sound as sexy, but couldn't we set the mime option for text to something like "eterm -e '$TEXTEDITOR'"? On Wed, 4 Aug 2004 12:41:44 -0500, Barry Dmytro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > About the text viewer... > I used a text viewer on OSX once called tofu that I like a lot. > http://homepage.mac.com/asagoo/tofu/index.html > I would love to work on something like this with someone. As > far as a text editor, there are so many bad ones out there already > do we really need to make another? > > * Shish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Now, the question is: what can I do? =) > > > > Looking through MIME types... > > > > audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? > > image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? > > video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? > > text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? > > > > So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / > > editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to > > cover all the root categories first :) > > > > -- Shish > > > > Kind Regards, > > Barry Dmytro > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://badcherry.org/ > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
About the text viewer... I used a text viewer on OSX once called tofu that I like a lot. http://homepage.mac.com/asagoo/tofu/index.html I would love to work on something like this with someone. As far as a text editor, there are so many bad ones out there already do we really need to make another? * Shish ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > Now, the question is: what can I do? =) > > Looking through MIME types... > > audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? > image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? > video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? > text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? > > So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / > editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to > cover all the root categories first :) > > -- Shish > Kind Regards, Barry Dmytro [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://badcherry.org/ --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
RE: Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
Its really easy to do a text viewer with EWL at this point (This is the EWL intro in the cookbook). Making the text editable would be a bit more work as I don't think you can edit the text area at this point. dan > > Now, the question is: what can I do? =) > > Looking through MIME types... > > audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? > image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? > video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? > text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? > > So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / > editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to > cover all the root categories first :) > > -- Shish > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on > Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, > one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology > Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] Time to get started.
> Now, the question is: what can I do? =) Looking through MIME types... audio/* - viewer: euphoria, editor: ??? image/* - viewer: entice, editor: ??? video/* - viewer: raster's demo?, editor: ??? text/* - viewer: ???, editor: ??? So it looks like all we need is a plain text viewer, and then media creator / editors. There's more specific things like text/html, but I'd think it best to cover all the root categories first :) -- Shish __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
[E-devel] Time to get started.
Hello all, Ive been watching this list for a few years now, but I believe this is my first post. Ive been an enlightenment user since the days of DR13, and Ive always wanted to contribute in some way to this project, and I thought now would be a good time to do so. Now, the question is: what can I do? =) Ive studied C in school a few years ago, but I have run a webdevelopment/webhosting company with a few emplyees in Sweden for a few years now, so I guess that this is the kind of stuff I do best (If you need a good european/swedish mirror of e.org or something, just let me know). However, I've played around some with the nice little DVD-tutorial that raster published and it made me want to start playing with C again. Perhaps it would be a good test of the EFL aswell, to see if a beginner C coder like myself can make something of it. =) Maybe you've got some ideas for some not-so-complicated smaller apps that is needed/wanted that I could get started with. If you're short on ideas Ill just think of something myself to play around with. I'd be more than happy to contribute to this project, if you have any ideas of what I could do that would be most useful to the project, just let me know. /frz, Andreas Niklasson --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OSTG. Have you noticed the changes on Linux.com, ITManagersJournal and NewsForge in the past few weeks? Now, one more big change to announce. We are now OSTG- Open Source Technology Group. Come see the changes on the new OSTG site. www.ostg.com ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
