[E-devel] enlightenmant file manager make some problems while tranfaring

2013-05-01 Thread المسالم المسالمة
hello again

today i tried to transfer about 700 megabyte from Downloads to USB flash
storage

the problem here is

after click paste from mouse left button list

file manager will sow to me a message that says transferring is complete

but in reality is not

the transferring is still in progress

so i hope that problem will be solved next release

thanks again
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenmant file manager make some problems while tranfaring

2013-05-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 1 May 2013 15:07:42 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
almusalimalmusali...@gmail.com said:

 hello again
 
 today i tried to transfer about 700 megabyte from Downloads to USB flash
 storage
 
 the problem here is
 
 after click paste from mouse left button list
 
 file manager will sow to me a message that says transferring is complete
 
 but in reality is not
 
 the transferring is still in progress
 
 so i hope that problem will be solved next release
 
 thanks again

how is it not complete? is efm showing a progress bar? if efm/e is showing its
compleye and u can see/browser thru the destination file tree.. it's complete.
the rest is your KERNEL buffering/syncing and this is not a bug. it is how
linux orks. it does everything it can in ram first... cached. spooling it out
to disk later. if you don't like this... you want your fs's mounded with a sync
option... and then prepare for the awesome slowness you'll enjoy :) thats why
there is an unmount/eject option in menus... to ensure all ops are synced to
disk before the media is removed...

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenmant file manager make some problems while tranfaring

2013-05-01 Thread Michael Blumenkrantz
this is a known behavior. the only way to fix it would be to monitor the
destination file size and show a progress bar based on this, but it would
not be entirely accurate or practical.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Wed, 1 May 2013 15:07:42 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
 almusalimalmusali...@gmail.com said:

  hello again
 
  today i tried to transfer about 700 megabyte from Downloads to USB flash
  storage
 
  the problem here is
 
  after click paste from mouse left button list
 
  file manager will sow to me a message that says transferring is complete
 
  but in reality is not
 
  the transferring is still in progress
 
  so i hope that problem will be solved next release
 
  thanks again

 how is it not complete? is efm showing a progress bar? if efm/e is showing
 its
 compleye and u can see/browser thru the destination file tree.. it's
 complete.
 the rest is your KERNEL buffering/syncing and this is not a bug. it is how
 linux orks. it does everything it can in ram first... cached. spooling it
 out
 to disk later. if you don't like this... you want your fs's mounded with a
 sync
 option... and then prepare for the awesome slowness you'll enjoy :) thats
 why
 there is an unmount/eject option in menus... to ensure all ops are synced
 to
 disk before the media is removed...

 --
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenmant file manager make some problems while tranfaring

2013-05-01 Thread Cedric BAIL
Or force a sync on the device. As long as nobody remove the usb drive
until the umount did succeed, data will be safe.

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz
michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote:
 this is a known behavior. the only way to fix it would be to monitor the
 destination file size and show a progress bar based on this, but it would
 not be entirely accurate or practical.


 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Wed, 1 May 2013 15:07:42 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
 almusalimalmusali...@gmail.com said:

  hello again
 
  today i tried to transfer about 700 megabyte from Downloads to USB flash
  storage
 
  the problem here is
 
  after click paste from mouse left button list
 
  file manager will sow to me a message that says transferring is complete
 
  but in reality is not
 
  the transferring is still in progress
 
  so i hope that problem will be solved next release
 
  thanks again

 how is it not complete? is efm showing a progress bar? if efm/e is showing
 its
 compleye and u can see/browser thru the destination file tree.. it's
 complete.
 the rest is your KERNEL buffering/syncing and this is not a bug. it is how
 linux orks. it does everything it can in ram first... cached. spooling it
 out
 to disk later. if you don't like this... you want your fs's mounded with a
 sync
 option... and then prepare for the awesome slowness you'll enjoy :) thats
 why
 there is an unmount/eject option in menus... to ensure all ops are synced
 to
 disk before the media is removed...

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Re: [E-devel] enlightenmant file manager make some problems while tranfaring

2013-05-01 Thread The Rasterman
On Wed, 1 May 2013 22:04:23 +0900 Cedric BAIL cedric.b...@free.fr said:

 Or force a sync on the device. As long as nobody remove the usb drive
 until the umount did succeed, data will be safe.

then the bug becomes my system is really slow while copying files or the
progress bar hangs at 100% for ages ... etc. the only way to do it is to do
fsync() directly during the copy and then people just get upset at how slow
file ops become compared to cp or mv which they then complain are so much
faster...

 On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Michael Blumenkrantz
 michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com wrote:
  this is a known behavior. the only way to fix it would be to monitor the
  destination file size and show a progress bar based on this, but it would
  not be entirely accurate or practical.
 
 
  On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Carsten Haitzler
  ras...@rasterman.comwrote:
 
  On Wed, 1 May 2013 15:07:42 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
  almusalimalmusali...@gmail.com said:
 
   hello again
  
   today i tried to transfer about 700 megabyte from Downloads to USB flash
   storage
  
   the problem here is
  
   after click paste from mouse left button list
  
   file manager will sow to me a message that says transferring is complete
  
   but in reality is not
  
   the transferring is still in progress
  
   so i hope that problem will be solved next release
  
   thanks again
 
  how is it not complete? is efm showing a progress bar? if efm/e is showing
  its
  compleye and u can see/browser thru the destination file tree.. it's
  complete.
  the rest is your KERNEL buffering/syncing and this is not a bug. it is how
  linux orks. it does everything it can in ram first... cached. spooling it
  out
  to disk later. if you don't like this... you want your fs's mounded with a
  sync
  option... and then prepare for the awesome slowness you'll enjoy :) thats
  why
  there is an unmount/eject option in menus... to ensure all ops are synced
  to
  disk before the media is removed...
 
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Re: [E-devel] enlightenmant file manager make some problems while tranfaring

2013-05-01 Thread المسالم المسالمة
this way of transferring left me confused

look what happened . and then judge me as you want

in thunar . i can see the progress bar about that process  so i can
tell from it if the process is complete

and it takes 3 minutes to do the whole transferring

but in EFM all what i saw is (( transferring is complete )) without any
progress bar

and Unfortunately that didnt happened at the first time

so i give it another try to see what is the problem

and you know what

i discovered that your new feature that you are proud to see it in E17 ((
unmount / eject ))

has a bug in it

so let me explain its problem

this feature should be used by user himself ... that its purpose . but

it seems that bug let this feature to turn itself off after close EFM
windows

and this bug is the main problem that make a this problem in files
transferring

so i hope that you can fix it later

thanks again

2013/5/1 Michael Blumenkrantz michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com

 this is a known behavior. the only way to fix it would be to monitor the
 destination file size and show a progress bar based on this, but it would
 not be entirely accurate or practical.



On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.comwrote:

 On Wed, 1 May 2013 15:07:42 +0300 المسالم المسالمة
 almusalimalmusali...@gmail.com said:

  hello again
 
  today i tried to transfer about 700 megabyte from Downloads to USB flash
  storage
 
  the problem here is
 
  after click paste from mouse left button list
 
  file manager will sow to me a message that says transferring is complete
 
  but in reality is not
 
  the transferring is still in progress
 
  so i hope that problem will be solved next release
 
  thanks again

 how is it not complete? is efm showing a progress bar? if efm/e is showing
 its
 compleye and u can see/browser thru the destination file tree.. it's
 complete.
 the rest is your KERNEL buffering/syncing and this is not a bug. it is how
 linux orks. it does everything it can in ram first... cached. spooling it
 out
 to disk later. if you don't like this... you want your fs's mounded with a
 sync
 option... and then prepare for the awesome slowness you'll enjoy :) thats
 why
 there is an unmount/eject option in menus... to ensure all ops are synced
 to
 disk before the media is removed...

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