Re: [E-devel] System Monitor
Thanks looking good. Packaged it for Bodhi linux 5.1 repos. On Sun, Sep 8, 2019 at 7:48 AM Al Poole wrote: > Hello, > > I've had some time to work on this program. Added some new features to the > GUI and command-line helper application. I've tried testing rigorously. > > https://download.enlightenment.org/rel/apps/evisum/evisum-0.2.6.tar.xz > > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 20:24:50 +0200 "hannes.janet...@gmail.com" said: > 2011/4/4 المسالم المسالمة : > > hello again > > > > it seems i didn't clear my idea here > > > > i already know that this environment had alot of modules here that will just > > make system monitor is a bad idea > > > > and with this thinking in your minds > > > > you didn't get the point of such request like this > > > > you see > > > > i didn't request this thing for monitoring the system because we already > > have those modules which can do such a thing like that > > > > i requested that because how can i suppose kill some programs if it can't be > > closed from its gui > > > > seriously > > > > in this case i will use this SYSTEM MONITOR to kill it from there > > > > you see thats why i requested this thing > > > > > There is already a way to kill not responding windows in window menu. > Sure, no problem with requesting features, but you'll need to convince > a developer that he needs the feature that you want to have > implemented. If it's not implemented yet it means no one felt the urge > or didn't had the spare time to do it. FYI... with netwm properites apps provide PID properties (not all do, but these days most do) (_NET_WM_PID). this means e KNOWS the PID. e17 will, if you press close, and IF the app sets delete request (99% of apps set this). if apps also do ping protocol, e knows if the app is hung and not responding to events, and if it becomes hung, and you tried a close, after a timeout it will KILL the PID for you. so actually no need for such a system monitor to kill processes. now.. if you truly DO want to kill the process.. the window menu "kill" will, if netwm_pid property is set, sent a sigint (ctrl+c) to the process, then if it is hung (netwm ping protocol) after a timeout, will send a sigkill (kill -9). so in most cases you dont NEED such a system monitor... in a modern world e will go trying to kill processes for you as part of its "closing" setup. if the app doesnt set the pid prop - it's most likely some old style thing, so e just kills off its x connection. it may be a remote app. sure. this doesn't cover processes that dont have a window, but it makes the NEED for such a system monitor thing with process lists much less so that means there is little need to work on it as most cases are handled automatically without such a thing. sure - it can be useful but the amount of usefulness is significantly reduced, thus priority of it is very low. as i explained. not on the todo list for e17 release. if someone wants to do it... they can. :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. And it wants your games. http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
2011/4/4 المسالم المسالمة : > There is already a way to kill not responding windows in window menu. > Sure, no problem with requesting features, but you'll need to convince > a developer that he needs the feature that you want to have > implemented. If it's not implemented yet it means no one felt the urge > or didn't had the spare time to do it. > > BR > > = > > > hello MR.BR I'm Hannes btw. BR is just short for Best Regards :) > alot of thanks to you to tell me there is another way to kill stuck programs > > but its not enughe > > you see there is another way to programs to be stuck , just like what > happend to my computer yesterday with VLC program > > you see our distro developers didn't built it very well so there is was a > bug that i thank god to make me see it to report about it here > > any way that bug was > > that is if i closing this program's window then vlc will not be killed as it > suppose to be happened to it if i do that > > after that i hear after that my cpu fan was running very fast and very > annoying > > after that i discovered that this vlc was still running > > so i decided to kill it from KSYSGUARD and after that cpu fan return to > normal state > > sooo > > did you see what i mean when i requested something like that for this > environment > I understand that there are cases where one needs to kill misbehaving programs. I'm not sure if just having a system-monitor is the best approach though. you have to _know_ that when a program is stuck in a loop or starts to suck up all ram you need to kill it. if you know it you can use top, system-monitor, evrything 'killall' or whatever. In my opinion a really good feature would be to have a dialog showing up in such cases asking to 'kill' or 'do nothing'. Best Regards, Hannes > if we can improve cpu module to do something like this > > > any way thanks for this discaution > -- > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Xperia(TM) PLAY It's a major breakthrough. An authentic gaming smartphone on the nation's most reliable network. And it wants your games. http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-sfdev ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
There is already a way to kill not responding windows in window menu. Sure, no problem with requesting features, but you'll need to convince a developer that he needs the feature that you want to have implemented. If it's not implemented yet it means no one felt the urge or didn't had the spare time to do it. BR = hello MR.BR alot of thanks to you to tell me there is another way to kill stuck programs but its not enughe you see there is another way to programs to be stuck , just like what happend to my computer yesterday with VLC program you see our distro developers didn't built it very well so there is was a bug that i thank god to make me see it to report about it here any way that bug was that is if i closing this program's window then vlc will not be killed as it suppose to be happened to it if i do that after that i hear after that my cpu fan was running very fast and very annoying after that i discovered that this vlc was still running so i decided to kill it from KSYSGUARD and after that cpu fan return to normal state sooo did you see what i mean when i requested something like that for this environment if we can improve cpu module to do something like this any way thanks for this discaution -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
2011/4/4 المسالم المسالمة : > hello again > > it seems i didn't clear my idea here > > i already know that this environment had alot of modules here that will just > make system monitor is a bad idea > > and with this thinking in your minds > > you didn't get the point of such request like this > > you see > > i didn't request this thing for monitoring the system because we already > have those modules which can do such a thing like that > > i requested that because how can i suppose kill some programs if it can't be > closed from its gui > > seriously > > in this case i will use this SYSTEM MONITOR to kill it from there > > you see thats why i requested this thing > > There is already a way to kill not responding windows in window menu. Sure, no problem with requesting features, but you'll need to convince a developer that he needs the feature that you want to have implemented. If it's not implemented yet it means no one felt the urge or didn't had the spare time to do it. BR > == > > i hope that i make my idea clear now > > > = > > thanks > -- > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:14:40 +0200 Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy wrote: > On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:22:13AM +0300, المسالم المسالمة wrote: > > hello developers > > > > i just want to ask about something important that make me surprised > > to see why E17 didnt have system monitor module > > > > like > > > > KSYSGUARD in KDE > > > > OR > > > > GNOME-SYSTEMMONITOR in GNOME > > > > so could one of you help to make one for E17 just like those > > > > thanks > > Not sure what you mean, we have cpu, mem and net modules, what else > do you need? :) Well since you asked Graphs! Graphs that I can stretch all the way across my screen. Being able to separately monitor each of my temperature probes. (Oh yeah, and GRAPH!) Monitoring fan speeds and voltage levels would be nice to. Especially with graphs. Did I mention graphs? /me puts away his wet dreams once more. No one wanted them last time either. -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
hello again it seems i didn't clear my idea here i already know that this environment had alot of modules here that will just make system monitor is a bad idea and with this thinking in your minds you didn't get the point of such request like this you see i didn't request this thing for monitoring the system because we already have those modules which can do such a thing like that i requested that because how can i suppose kill some programs if it can't be closed from its gui seriously in this case i will use this SYSTEM MONITOR to kill it from there you see thats why i requested this thing == i hope that i make my idea clear now = thanks -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On 04/04/2011 07:08 AM, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:22:13 +0300 المسالم المسالمة > said: > > basically no one has gone and made one. can be done - just no one has done it. > as such it's not on our todo for e17 though, so we're not going to hold up a > release waiting for one. if someone makes an awesome/nice one.. no problems in > looking into including it if its ready in time. (e17 module). > Indeed. There are even pieces of code that could be reused for it (cpu module, net module, etc, etc) dh >> hello developers >> >> i just want to ask about something important that make me surprised to see >> why E17 didnt have system monitor module >> >> like >> >> KSYSGUARD in KDE >> >> OR >> >> GNOME-SYSTEMMONITOR in GNOME >> >> so could one of you help to make one for E17 just like those >> >> thanks -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
I don't like shoving everything into one place. It's better to split where possible. No need to squeeze that into the cpu/mem module :) -- Tom. On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 15:32 +0200, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy wrote: > :D true, true... > Anyway, i might add that as a popup for the cpu and mem module... Most time > you want to see "which app is eating my mem?" or "which app is burning my > cpu?", so might fit good into that. > > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 04:21:37PM +0300, Tom Hacohen wrote: > > Well, xchat is simply irrsi with a gui, and firefox is simply links with > > a gui. People like gui's... > > > > -- > > Tom. > > > > On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 15:19 +0200, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy wrote: > > > Not sure if there is really a need for that. It's simply `top` with a gui. > > > I thought about a popup for cpu and mem module for displaying processes > > > and there cpu/mem usage. > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:37:07PM +0300, المسالم المسالمة wrote: > > > > hello developers > > > > > > > > since i didn't make my idea clear for some of you > > > > > > > > i decided to make a picture and uploaded it > > > > > > > > so take a look > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > > > > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > > > > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > > > > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > > > > > > > ___ > > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > > > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > > > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > > > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > > > ___ > > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
Not sure if there is really a need for that. It's simply `top` with a gui. I thought about a popup for cpu and mem module for displaying processes and there cpu/mem usage. On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:37:07PM +0300, المسالم المسالمة wrote: > hello developers > > since i didn't make my idea clear for some of you > > i decided to make a picture and uploaded it > > so take a look > -- > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:47:17 +0200 Thomas Gstädtner said: > 2011/4/4 المسالم المسالمة : > > hello developers > > > > since i didn't make my idea clear for some of you > > > > i decided to make a picture and uploaded it > > > > so take a look > > > > Please don't archive single files in tar, and please don't gzip > already compressed picture files. it is a bit of a waste.. isn't it :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On Mon, 2011-04-04 at 20:45 +0900, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > i know what gnome system monitor is... but mat that just looks... WEIRD! RTL > stuff... bizarre! :) Muhaha, feel my pain. -- Tom. -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
2011/4/4 المسالم المسالمة : > hello developers > > since i didn't make my idea clear for some of you > > i decided to make a picture and uploaded it > > so take a look > Please don't archive single files in tar, and please don't gzip already compressed picture files. -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:37:07 +0300 المسالم المسالمة said: > hello developers > > since i didn't make my idea clear for some of you > > i decided to make a picture and uploaded it > > so take a look i know what gnome system monitor is... but mat that just looks... WEIRD! RTL stuff... bizarre! :) -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:22:13 +0300 المسالم المسالمة said: basically no one has gone and made one. can be done - just no one has done it. as such it's not on our todo for e17 though, so we're not going to hold up a release waiting for one. if someone makes an awesome/nice one.. no problems in looking into including it if its ready in time. (e17 module). > hello developers > > i just want to ask about something important that make me surprised to see > why E17 didnt have system monitor module > > like > > KSYSGUARD in KDE > > OR > > GNOME-SYSTEMMONITOR in GNOME > > so could one of you help to make one for E17 just like those > > thanks > -- > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- - Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
process list 2011/4/4 Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy > Not sure what you mean, we have cpu, mem and net modules, what else do you > need? :) > > Kind regards, > Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy > > On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:22:13AM +0300, المسالم المسالمة wrote: > > hello developers > > > > i just want to ask about something important that make me surprised to > see > > why E17 didnt have system monitor module > > > > like > > > > KSYSGUARD in KDE > > > > OR > > > > GNOME-SYSTEMMONITOR in GNOME > > > > so could one of you help to make one for E17 just like those > > > > thanks > > > -- > > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > > ___ > > enlightenment-devel mailing list > > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > > -- > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > -- Regards. -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
Re: [E-devel] system monitor
Not sure what you mean, we have cpu, mem and net modules, what else do you need? :) Kind regards, Brian 'morlenxus' Miculcy On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:22:13AM +0300, المسالم المسالمة wrote: > hello developers > > i just want to ask about something important that make me surprised to see > why E17 didnt have system monitor module > > like > > KSYSGUARD in KDE > > OR > > GNOME-SYSTEMMONITOR in GNOME > > so could one of you help to make one for E17 just like those > > thanks > -- > Create and publish websites with WebMatrix > Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; > WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and > publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf > ___ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel -- Create and publish websites with WebMatrix Use the most popular FREE web apps or write code yourself; WebMatrix provides all the features you need to develop and publish your website. http://p.sf.net/sfu/ms-webmatrix-sf ___ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
