Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay


> if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :)
> i'd love
> to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" no
> "openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install,
> log in,
> and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read
> e-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course an easy
> to
> use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line.
> i'd like
> to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your
> login
> manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under
> seconds if
> you REALLY want (it's been done) :)

Many including me use Gentoo which fulfil above requirements for precisely
those reasons.  The bare time to boot has been 10-15 seconds before I
added cups, apache and other stuff to run levels.  And that's with
framebuffer and bootsplash.  See here for example.

http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/images/2.6-bs.png

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Re: [e-users] distrobutions [OT]

2004-02-26 Thread Bradley Reed
On 02/26/04 07:21:22, Justin P wrote:
I would like to know what the common distributions used by  
Enlightened
people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.

Slackware.

Brad

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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 26 February 2004, at 07:21:22 (-0500),
Justin P wrote:

> I would like to know what the common distributions used by
> Enlightened people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of
> linux is.

No.  That subject is HIGHLY OFF-TOPIC for this list.

Michael

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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:16:57 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd
> love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" no
> "openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log
> in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3,
> read e-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course an
> easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a
> side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5
> seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be
> done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :)

Since you included the clause "if i had the time", I suggest you take a look at
Gentoo. It's pretty much what you describe. I don't know about fast booting
though, I never considered it a priority.

PS: Let's hope this won't turn into a distro war now :)

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Re: [e-users] distrobutions [OT]

2004-02-26 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 08:49:47 -0500
Bradley Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 02/26/04 07:21:22, Justin P wrote:
> > I would like to know what the common distributions used by  
> > Enlightened
> > people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.
> >

Gentoo unstable here

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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 19:41:39 -0500 Charles A Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
(Bbabbled:
(B
(B> On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:59:49 +0900
(B> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:
(B> 
(B> > but i guess the real thread here was "is there an e based distro" or
(B> > "e friendly" one. i'd love to do a mini distro for e - for a lean
(B> > desktop - all clean and spotless.
(B> 
(B> 
(B> There is one
(B> 
(B> http://undeadlinux.org/
(B> 
(B> Been awhile since I tested it but it installs in the manner of gentoo
(B
(Booh it's alive! err i man dead... err undead :)
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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Ciro Mattia Gonano
Cum Purpurea Rosa pulchritudinem admiratus eram, Domini Die quinto Kalendas
Martias MMIV Justin P mihi appropinquavit proclamavitque:

> I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened
> people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.
>
Debian unstable with some unofficial archives (IPv6, for example).

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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Ciro Mattia Gonano
Cum Purpurea Rosa pulchritudinem admiratus eram, Domini Die quinto Kalendas
Martias MMIV Justin P mihi appropinquavit proclamavitque:

> I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened
> people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.
>
Debian unstable with some unofficial archives (IPv6, for example).

Adieu,
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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Wouter van Marle




Strawberry flavour.

Oh you mean distro? I'm using Mandrake now. Works OK, would be nice to have an Enlightenment based distro. It is still kind of a rough hack (using it as window manager under gtk2 desktop).

Wouter.

On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 20:21, Justin P wrote:

I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened
people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.

Justin



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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:59:49 +0900
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote:

> but i guess the real thread here was "is there an e based distro" or
> "e friendly" one. i'd love to do a mini distro for e - for a lean
> desktop - all clean and spotless.


There is one

http://undeadlinux.org/

Been awhile since I tested it but it installs in the manner of gentoo


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[e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread Justin P
I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened
people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.

Justin



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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:19:56 - (GMT) "Dhruba Bandopadhyay"
(B<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
(B
(B> 
(B> 
(B> > if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :)
(B> > i'd love
(B> > to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" no
(B> > "openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install,
(B> > log in,
(B> > and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read
(B> > e-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course an easy
(B> > to
(B> > use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line.
(B> > i'd like
(B> > to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your
(B> > login
(B> > manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under
(B> > seconds if
(B> > you REALLY want (it's been done) :)
(B> 
(B> Many including me use Gentoo which fulfil above requirements for precisely
(B> those reasons.  The bare time to boot has been 10-15 seconds before I
(B> added cups, apache and other stuff to run levels.  And that's with
(B> framebuffer and bootsplash.  See here for example.
(B
(Bframebuffer and splashscreens don't kill the boot time - its init and the tonne
(Bof over-engineered SCRIPTS that do (well ok a lot of excess kernel probing
(Btoo...) i'd want to replace init with a dependency system that doesn't use
(Binefficient scripts to run your system.
(B
(B> http://dhruba.codewordt.co.uk/images/2.6-bs.png
(B> 
(B> -- 
(B> Dhruba Bandopadhyay // dhruba [AT] codewordt.co.uk
(B> ICQ: 31628525  // MSN: bdhruba [AT] msn.com
(B> Use Gentoo Linux! // http://www.gentoo.org/
(B
(B
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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread llewelly
Justin P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened
> people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.

FreeBSD. Which isn't a flavor of linux. :-)


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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:54:47 +0100 Andrej Kacian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
(B
(B> On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 23:16:57 +0900
(B> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(B> 
(B> > if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd
(B> > love to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql"
(B> > no"openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install,
(B> > log in, and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or
(B> > 3, read e-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course
(B> > an easy to use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a
(B> > side-line. i'd like to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5
(B> > seconds to your login manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be
(B> > done in under seconds if you REALLY want (it's been done) :)
(B> 
(B> Since you included the clause "if i had the time", I suggest you take a look
(B> at Gentoo. It's pretty much what you describe. I don't know about fast booting
(B> though, I never considered it a priority.
(B> 
(B> PS: Let's hope this won't turn into a distro war now :)
(B
(Bdefinitely not! no distro wars here. everyone has their preferences. right now i
(Bhave debian installed and i'm not going to try gentoo as that'd mean a
(Bre-install. i might try it when i have a spare box and spare time... i'm not
(Breally into waiting days for my system to compile though...
(B
(Bbut i guess the real thread here was "is there an e based distro" or "e
(Bfriendly" one. i'd love to do a mini distro for e - for a lean desktop - all
(Bclean and spotless.
(B
(B-- 
(B- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" --
(BThe Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread François Chenais



Le jeu 26/02/2004 à 15:16, Carsten Haitzler a écrit :

> if i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love
> to actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" no
> "openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in,
> and run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read
> e-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course an easy to
> use package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like
> to make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login
> manager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if
> you REALLY want (it's been done) :)
> 
And e17 !
What a wonderfull distro !:-) Should be knoppix !

François



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Re: [e-users] distrobutions

2004-02-26 Thread The Rasterman
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:51:06 +0800 Wouter van Marle
(B<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
(B
(B> Strawberry flavour.
(B> 
(B> Oh you mean distro? I'm using Mandrake now. Works OK, would be nice to
(B> have an Enlightenment based distro. It is still kind of a rough hack
(B> (using it as window manager under gtk2 desktop).
(B
(Bif i had the time... i'd do a distro. just for myself of all people! :) i'd love
(Bto actually do a distro that's stripped down - no "apache" no "mysql" no
(B"openldap" in fact no gimp, etc. basically just what u need to install, log in,
(Band run a terminal, download some files, maybe browse a website or 3, read
(Be-mail. all things like "gimp" would be add-on packages (of course an easy to
(Buse package fetcher would be included), but all of this is a side-line. i'd like
(Bto make it ULTRA FAST to boot. make it boot in about 3-5 seconds to your login
(Bmanager. this is perfectly possible. in fact it can be done in under seconds if
(Byou REALLY want (it's been done) :)
(B
(B> Wouter.
(B> 
(B> On Thu, 2004-02-26 at 20:21, Justin P wrote:
(B> 
(B> > I would like to know what the common distributions used by Enlightened
(B> > people are. Please let me know what your fav. flavor of linux is.
(B> > 
(B> > Justin
(B> > 
(B> > 
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