Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-23 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 09:00:58 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject    : Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
>   Message-ID : <2022015340.9793f1c5222ef7455...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 22:53:40 +
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> CH>  On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 19:38:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya
> CH>  said:
> 
> [...]
> MN>> Coul you inform me of 'building with asan' method, or point in the
> MN>> internet?
> 
> CH>  https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/efl-debug
> 
> I thought you were talking about one building method with meson.

It's there on that page under "Asan" - how to build efl (or e) with asan. if you
build efl with asan you need to rebuild e (and anything else that links against
efl like terminology etc.) :)

> Anyway, thanks.
> 
> I'll give it a try.
> 
> Regards.
> 
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Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-22 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
  Message-ID : <2022015340.9793f1c5222ef7455...@rasterman.com>
  Date & Time: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 22:53:40 +

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

CH>  On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 19:38:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  
said:

[...]
MN>> Coul you inform me of 'building with asan' method, or point in the
MN>> internet?

CH>  https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/efl-debug

I thought you were talking about one building method with meson.

Anyway, thanks.

I'll give it a try.

Regards.

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Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-22 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 22 Jan 2022 19:38:28 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject    : Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
>   Message-ID : <20220119103240.7f2dc5561038c3699e047...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:32:40 +
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> CH>  On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya
> CH>  said:
> 
> [...]
> CH>   this is the segfault handler... so there is a
> CH> crash. sometimes things stop for a while while a gdb backtrace is
> CH> captured. thee days gdb has become very very slow and may take many
> CH> 0's of seconds to catch the backtrace
> 
> I can't get the backtrace, at all.
> 
> [...]
> CH>  does it crash again? if so - what is the backtrace?
> CH> ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... ?
> CH>  have you tried building efl and e with asan and catching the bug
> CH> early?
> 
> Coul you inform me of 'building with asan' method, or point in the
> internet?

https://www.enlightenment.org/contrib/efl-debug

> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-22 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
  Message-ID : <20220119103240.7f2dc5561038c3699e047...@rasterman.com>
  Date & Time: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:32:40 +

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

CH>  On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  
said:

[...]
CH>   this is the segfault handler... so there is a
CH> crash. sometimes things stop for a while while a gdb backtrace is
CH> captured. thee days gdb has become very very slow and may take many
CH> 0's of seconds to catch the backtrace

I can't get the backtrace, at all.

[...]
CH>  does it crash again? if so - what is the backtrace?
CH> ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... ?
CH>  have you tried building efl and e with asan and catching the bug
CH> early?

Coul you inform me of 'building with asan' method, or point in the
internet?

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-19 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
  Message-ID : <20220119103240.7f2dc5561038c3699e047...@rasterman.com>
  Date & Time: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 10:32:40 +

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

CH>  On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  
said:

[...]
MN> > I set it, but only the height doesn't work with the memory function.

CH>  you mean remembers don't work with size?

No, just about the height.

CH> it should... perhaps emacs is sending configure requests for size
CH>  after it maps the window - this will then be an application
CH>  requested resize later after initial size. you can use locks to 
CH>  LOCK applications from changing their size (e ignores size
CH>  requests then and enforces its sizing).

I think I did that, but I'll try again tomorrow.

[...]
MN> > 2. Problematic cases
 
MN> > [...]
MN> > @ match screens 0x1b76150[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0
MN> > @ matches existing zone 0x1c24a00
MN> >move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160
MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0
MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0
MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0
MN> > RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1
MN> > PAUSE !

CH>   this is the segfault handler... so there is a
CH>  crash. sometimes things stop for a while while a gdb backtrace is
CH>  captured. thee days gdb has become very very slow and may take
CH>  many 10's of seconds to catch the backtrace

Ah, I see.
I'll wait patiently, next.

[...]
MN> > That is, after login operation;
 
MN> > 1. get the log in sound? (<-- I used to think it was an easter egg,
MN> >   but lately I think it's turned into a login sound!)

CH>  yes - you logged back in... xorg was killed. new x session :)

MN> > 2. But, the enlightenment logo does not appear and the mouse
MN> >  does not respond.

CH>  does it crash again? if so - what is the backtrace? ~/.e-crashdump.txt ... 
?
CH>  have you tried building efl and e with asan and catching the bug early?

I used to see ~/.e-crashdump.txt a lot, but not anymore.

Regards, and Good Night.

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Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-19 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 12:00:56 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

> Hello,
> 
> Sorry for late reply.
> 
> In the Message; 
> 
>   Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
>   Message-ID : <20220112164927.75f90f9a82129fa192a2c...@rasterman.com>
>   Date & Time: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:49:27 +
> 
> [CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:
> 
> CH>  On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:02:20 +0900 Masaru Nomiya
> CH>  said:
> 
> CH>  1. top shouldn't be ignored... unless it conflicts with other options
> CH>  (remembers, keeping windows in the visible area of the screen
> CH>  etc.). You almost definitely should not be configuring this stuff
> CH>  in emacs anyway as this cannot account for screen resolution and
> CH>  size changes, scaling changes, dynamic hot plug of screens and so
> CH>  on. you should definitely use e's remembers for this. it will
> CH>  remember window parameters like size, position etc. relative to
> CH>  screen, virtual desktop and so on and properly handle changes to
> CH>  these like screen resolution changes and so on.
> 
> Thanks.
> I set it, but only the height doesn't work with the memory function.

you mean remembers don't work with size? it should... perhaps emacs is sending
configure requests for size after it maps the window - this will then be an
application requested resize later after initial size. you can use locks to
LOCK applications from changing their size (e ignores size requests then and
enforces its sizing).

> So, I wrote in .emacs;
> 
>  (if (boundp 'window-system)
>  (setq initial-frame-alist
>(append (list
> ;;'(font . "fontset-16")
>  '(foreground-color . "green3")
> '(background-color . "black")
> '(border-color . "gray")
> '(mouse-color  . "white")
> '(cursor-color . "Blue")
> '(cursor-type  . box)
> '(menu-bar-lines . 1)
> '(vertical-scroll-bars . right)
> '(height . 51)
> )
> 
> 
> CH>  2. i don't know what causes this - is it really black or
> CH>  backlight is just very low/off? there is also it seems at least
> CH>  some kind of bug in the vmware driver where if e also opens input
> CH>  devices the xorg side driver will have lots of double displaying
> CH>  anything to the screen (at the driver end - e renders,
> CH>  screenshotting the results works. xrandr shows everything
> CH>  configured right - just nothing gets shown on screen. perhaps you
> CH>  suffer from this? you can disable the gesture support in e sat
> CH>  compile time in meson options and see if it changes anything?
> 
> I get the just black screen, not a blacklight.
> Now, I encounter this phenomenon at least once every two times.
> 
> I thought there were no logs, but they were recorded;
> 
> 1. normal case.
> 
> [...]
> @ match screens 0x2bb8a70[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0
> @ matches existing zone 0x257b450
>move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1
> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=1
> DEV: change [MX Vertical Mouse] [libinput Middle Emulation Enabled] -> 1
> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
> 
> 2. Problematic cases
> 
> [...]
> @ match screens 0x1b76150[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0
> @ matches existing zone 0x1c24a00
>move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0
> RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1
> PAUSE !

 this is the segfault handler... so there is a crash. sometimes things stop
for a while while a gdb backtrace is captured. thee days gdb has become very
very slow and may take many 10's of seconds to catch the backtrace

> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=1
> DEV: change [MX Vertical Mouse] [libinput Middle Emulation Enabled] -> 1
> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
> DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
> X I/O Error - fatal. Exiting  <-- this means Ctrl+Alt+Backsopace keys
>  operarion
> 
> That is, after login operation;
> 
> 1. get the log in sound? (<-- I used to think it was an easter egg,
>   but lately I think it's turned into a login 

Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-18 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

Sorry for late reply.

In the Message; 

  Subject: Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl
  Message-ID : <20220112164927.75f90f9a82129fa192a2c...@rasterman.com>
  Date & Time: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:49:27 +

[CH] == Carsten Haitzler  has written:

CH>  On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:02:20 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  
said:

CH>  1. top shouldn't be ignored... unless it conflicts with other options
CH>  (remembers, keeping windows in the visible area of the screen
CH>  etc.). You almost definitely should not be configuring this stuff
CH>  in emacs anyway as this cannot account for screen resolution and
CH>  size changes, scaling changes, dynamic hot plug of screens and so
CH>  on. you should definitely use e's remembers for this. it will
CH>  remember window parameters like size, position etc. relative to
CH>  screen, virtual desktop and so on and properly handle changes to
CH>  these like screen resolution changes and so on.

Thanks.
I set it, but only the height doesn't work with the memory function.

So, I wrote in .emacs;

 (if (boundp 'window-system)
 (setq initial-frame-alist
   (append (list
;;'(font . "fontset-16")
   '(foreground-color . "green3")
'(background-color . "black")
'(border-color . "gray")
'(mouse-color  . "white")
'(cursor-color . "Blue")
'(cursor-type  . box)
'(menu-bar-lines . 1)
'(vertical-scroll-bars . right)
'(height . 51)
)


CH>  2. i don't know what causes this - is it really black or
CH>  backlight is just very low/off? there is also it seems at least
CH>  some kind of bug in the vmware driver where if e also opens input
CH>  devices the xorg side driver will have lots of double displaying
CH>  anything to the screen (at the driver end - e renders,
CH>  screenshotting the results works. xrandr shows everything
CH>  configured right - just nothing gets shown on screen. perhaps you
CH>  suffer from this? you can disable the gesture support in e sat
CH>  compile time in meson options and see if it changes anything?

I get the just black screen, not a blacklight.
Now, I encounter this phenomenon at least once every two times.

I thought there were no logs, but they were recorded;

1. normal case.

[...]
@ match screens 0x2bb8a70[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0
@ matches existing zone 0x257b450
   move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160
RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0
RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0
RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0
RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=1
DEV: change [MX Vertical Mouse] [libinput Middle Emulation Enabled] -> 1
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0

2. Problematic cases

[...]
@ match screens 0x1b76150[0] = 0 0 3840x2160 -- 0
@ matches existing zone 0x1c24a00
   move resize 0 0 3840x2160 -> 0 0 3840x2160
RRR: New unconfigured screen on DVI-D-0
RRR: New unconfigured screen on HDMI-0
RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-0
RRR: New unconfigured screen on DP-1
PAUSE !
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=1
DEV: change [MX Vertical Mouse] [libinput Middle Emulation Enabled] -> 1
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
DEV: CHANGES ... have 18 devices, changed=0
X I/O Error - fatal. Exiting  <-- this means Ctrl+Alt+Backsopace keys
 operarion

That is, after login operation;

1. get the log in sound? (<-- I used to think it was an easter egg,
  but lately I think it's turned into a login sound!)

2. But, the enlightenment logo does not appear and the mouse does not
  respond.

then, I press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace keys, and do login operation.

I doubted the bluetooth mouse, so replaced it with another bluetooth
mouse, or usb mouse, but there were no effect.

Any idea?

Thanks.

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Re: [e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-12 Thread Carsten Haitzler
On Sat, 08 Jan 2022 17:02:20 +0900 Masaru Nomiya  said:

1. top shouldn't be ignored... unless it conflicts with other options
(remembers, keeping windows in the visible area of the screen etc.). You almost
definitely should not be configuring this stuff in emacs anyway as this cannot
account for screen resolution and size changes, scaling changes, dynamic hot
plug of screens and so on. you should definitely use e's remembers for this. it
will remember window parameters like size, position etc. relative to screen,
virtual desktop and so on and properly handle changes to these like screen
resolution changes and so on.

2. i don't know what causes this - is it really black or backlight is just
very low/off? there is also it seems at least some kind of bug in the vmware
driver where if e also opens input devices the xorg side driver will have lots
of double displaying anything to the screen (at the driver end - e renders,
screenshotting the results works. xrandr shows everything configured right -
just nothing gets shown on screen. perhaps you suffer from this? you can
disable the gesture support in e sat compile time in meson options and see if it
changes anything?

> Hello,
> 
> I have 2 questions about the latest enlightenment & efl environment.
> 
> 1. Position of Emacs
> 
> In ~/.emacs,  I have set up the following for Emacs positioning,
> 
> (if (boundp 'window-system)
> (setq initial-frame-alist
>   (append (list
>;;'(font . "fontset-16")
>  '(foreground-color . "green3")
>'(background-color . "black")
>'(border-color . "gray")
>'(mouse-color  . "white")
>'(cursor-color . "Blue")
>'(cursor-type  . box)
>'(menu-bar-lines . 1)
>'(vertical-scroll-bars . right)
>'(width . 82)
>'(height . 51)
>'(top . 35)
>'(left . 10)
>)
> 
> In this case, the setting for top is ignored regardless of it's value.
> 
> Is there a way to reflect the value of top?
> 
> 2. Login issue
> 
> Regardless of the login manager, when I try to log in, there is a very
> high probability (about 30%) that a black screen will appear, and I
> have to use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to go back and log in again.
> 
> This has been happening since the Christmas release, but is it
> specific to my environment?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
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[e-users] Regading latest enlightenment & efl

2022-01-08 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

I have 2 questions about the latest enlightenment & efl environment.

1. Position of Emacs

In ~/.emacs,  I have set up the following for Emacs positioning,

(if (boundp 'window-system)
(setq initial-frame-alist
  (append (list
   ;;'(font . "fontset-16")
   '(foreground-color . "green3")
   '(background-color . "black")
   '(border-color . "gray")
   '(mouse-color  . "white")
   '(cursor-color . "Blue")
   '(cursor-type  . box)
   '(menu-bar-lines . 1)
   '(vertical-scroll-bars . right)
   '(width . 82)
   '(height . 51)
   '(top . 35)
   '(left . 10)
   )

In this case, the setting for top is ignored regardless of it's value.

Is there a way to reflect the value of top?

2. Login issue

Regardless of the login manager, when I try to log in, there is a very
high probability (about 30%) that a black screen will appear, and I
have to use Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to go back and log in again.

This has been happening since the Christmas release, but is it
specific to my environment?

Thanks.

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