RE: [e-users] New E17/linux website
Oooo! I think I just heard someone say 'Weeaboo'. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Michael Jennings > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:05 PM > To: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website > Importance: Low > > > On Friday, 18 November 2005, at 14:03:46 (+1100), > Daniel Kasak wrote: > > > Calmly dude. Calmly. > > Uh...what? > > Michael > > -- > Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm > (www.eterm.org) > -- > - > "To err is human; to really louse things up requires root > privileges." -- Alexander Pope, slightly paraphrased > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get > Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free > Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of > 2005. For more info visit: > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
J. Erik Heinz wrote: I hate forums.. mailinglists are the way to go ;) Wiki's ? To use a community can have some advantages. wikis are nice for documentation, but discussion is best done on a mailinglist. Just like we are doing now :) -- Morten :wq --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
Hi, Morten Nilsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> words on 18.11.2005 - 03:01 (+0100 Zulu-Time): > Paul Stejskal wrote: > >One more suggestion I have, how about some forums? > > Here's my suggestion; how about not? :P > > I hate forums.. mailinglists are the way to go ;) Wiki's ? To use a community can have some advantages. Regards -- J. Erik Heinz Keyboard-samuraing in process --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
On Friday, 18 November 2005, at 14:03:46 (+1100), Daniel Kasak wrote: > Calmly dude. Calmly. Uh...what? Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "To err is human; to really louse things up requires root privileges." -- Alexander Pope, slightly paraphrased --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
Michael Jennings wrote: That is most definitely a matter of opinion, and those opinions are off-topic for this list. All this-distro-is-better-than-that-one comments should be sent directly to /dev/null. Here's the "way to go:" if you do the work, you pick the distro. That's why ELive uses Debian. Not because it's superior, but because the guy who did the work (Thanatermesis) picked it. End of story. Calmly dude. Calmly. -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS --If you are not the CanIt administrator and you think this message is spam, please give the id 21717 and magic value 530d96c275ec to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be marked as spam. Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 21717) is spam: Spam:http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=s&i=21717&m=530d96c275ec Not spam:http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=n&i=21717&m=530d96c275ec Forget vote: http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=f&i=21717&m=530d96c275ec -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
Paul Stejskal wrote: One more suggestion I have, how about some forums? Here's my suggestion; how about not? :P I hate forums.. mailinglists are the way to go ;) -- Morten --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
On Friday, 18 November 2005, at 12:33:57 (+1100), Daniel Kasak wrote: > The installation could use some friendlying-up, I admit, but once > Gentoo is installed, it's certainly the way to go. That is most definitely a matter of opinion, and those opinions are off-topic for this list. All this-distro-is-better-than-that-one comments should be sent directly to /dev/null. Here's the "way to go:" if you do the work, you pick the distro. That's why ELive uses Debian. Not because it's superior, but because the guy who did the work (Thanatermesis) picked it. End of story. Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) --- "Reality makes believers of us all." -- "Enola Gay" --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
Doug McEachern wrote: I agree. Though my experiences with Gentoo have been great following the first week of installing, compiling and configuring, I would have never made it past the first few failed attempts to get X started without being really stubborn and determined. Gentoo will not win many new converts. The installation could use some friendlying-up, I admit, but once Gentoo is installed, it's certainly the way to go. That's what the LiveCDs are for. For example, when Unreal Tournament 2004 came out, Gentoo released a LiveCD that booted straight into X, with hardware detection goodness ( including hardware accelerated 3D ), that also had a number of games - Tuxracer, and of course the UT 2004. You could also use the LiveCD to install a Stage3 Gentoo system. Perhaps a Gentoo LiveCD with E17 and a Doom 3 demo is in order? If I had the time ( and an x86 box ), I'd do it :) Dan -- BEGIN-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS --If you are not the CanIt administrator and you think this message is spam, please give the id 21700 and magic value e02d0087ef3d to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be marked as spam. Teach CanIt if this mail (ID 21700) is spam: Spam:http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=s&i=21700&m=e02d0087ef3d Not spam:http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=n&i=21700&m=e02d0087ef3d Forget vote: http://entropy.homelinux.org/canit/b.php?c=f&i=21700&m=e02d0087ef3d -- END-ANTISPAM-VOTING-LINKS --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
One more suggestion I have, how about some forums? Paul On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 17:13 -0600, Paul Stejskal wrote: > It's a nice idea, but the one thing I would suggest is that you probably > suggest a distro that is pretty much set up out of the box. Most > Windows users will not be familiar with programming or compiling, but > will want things to work right away. > Paul > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:55 +0100, Liliegren Daniel wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have just started up a new website promoting E17 and linux as an > > alternative to MS Windows for people who are interested and want to expand > > they're horizon. I come from the Windows world myself and work primarily > > with MS products at my clients. I took the linux step just 2 months ago > > (without hardly any prior linux experience) and found that a lot of the > > questions I had was not so easy to find the answer to in the regular linux > > forums. I had to find a lot out for myself or ask people I know who are > > using linux a lot. > > > > My primary goal with the website is to promote E17 and linux as an > > alternative to ordninarie "Windows" people (I already have 3 "Windows" > > friends that are trying out linux and E17 on they're private computers > > right now :-). I also want to help people get they're linux installations > > going by making HOWTO:s and Step-by-step guides to fill in any eventual > > gaps in other websites documentations. The entire site is of course > > non-profit/pro-bono. > > > > If you would like to participate/provide feedback/promote the site please > > let me know by sending an e-mail. > > > > Best regards, > > Daniel Liliegren > > http://www.gurugonenoob.com > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today > > Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam > > for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click > > ___ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today > Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam > for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
I agree. Though my experiences with Gentoo have been great following the first week of installing, compiling and configuring, I would have never made it past the first few failed attempts to get X started without being really stubborn and determined. Gentoo will not win many new converts. I had used Mandrake, Fedora and Vector previously, so the learning curve wasn't so steep for me. Those are three distros that are quite usable out of the box, and E17 packages are available for all three. Your site looks good. doug On 11/17/05, Paul Stejskal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It's a nice idea, but the one thing I would suggest is that you probablysuggest a distro that is pretty much set up out of the box. MostWindows users will not be familiar with programming or compiling, butwill want things to work right away. PaulOn Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:55 +0100, Liliegren Daniel wrote:> Hi all,>> I have just started up a new website promoting E17 and linux as an alternative to MS Windows for people who are interested and want to expand they're horizon. I come from the Windows world myself and work primarily with MS products at my clients. I took the linux step just 2 months ago (without hardly any prior linux experience) and found that a lot of the questions I had was not so easy to find the answer to in the regular linux forums. I had to find a lot out for myself or ask people I know who are using linux a lot.>> My primary goal with the website is to promote E17 and linux as an alternative to ordninarie "Windows" people (I already have 3 "Windows" friends that are trying out linux and E17 on they're private computers right now :-). I also want to help people get they're linux installations going by making HOWTO:s and Step-by-step guides to fill in any eventual gaps in other websites documentations. The entire site is of course non-profit/pro-bono.>> If you would like to participate/provide feedback/promote the site please let me know by sending an e-mail.>> Best regards,> Daniel Liliegren> http://www.gurugonenoob.com> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today> Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam> for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click> ___> enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users ---This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified TodayRegister for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Examfor All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click___enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
I really like how you identify all the parts of the screenshot. I often wonder what a certain application is and also what font is being used when I see some screenshots. Andy On 11/17/05, Paul Stejskal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's a nice idea, but the one thing I would suggest is that you probably > suggest a distro that is pretty much set up out of the box. Most > Windows users will not be familiar with programming or compiling, but > will want things to work right away. > Paul > On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:55 +0100, Liliegren Daniel wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I have just started up a new website promoting E17 and linux as an > > alternative to MS Windows for people who are interested and want to expand > > they're horizon. I come from the Windows world myself and work primarily > > with MS products at my clients. I took the linux step just 2 months ago > > (without hardly any prior linux experience) and found that a lot of the > > questions I had was not so easy to find the answer to in the regular linux > > forums. I had to find a lot out for myself or ask people I know who are > > using linux a lot. > > > > My primary goal with the website is to promote E17 and linux as an > > alternative to ordninarie "Windows" people (I already have 3 "Windows" > > friends that are trying out linux and E17 on they're private computers > > right now :-). I also want to help people get they're linux installations > > going by making HOWTO:s and Step-by-step guides to fill in any eventual > > gaps in other websites documentations. The entire site is of course > > non-profit/pro-bono. > > > > If you would like to participate/provide feedback/promote the site please > > let me know by sending an e-mail. > > > > Best regards, > > Daniel Liliegren > > http://www.gurugonenoob.com > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today > > Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam > > for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: > > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click > > ___ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today > Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam > for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
Re: [e-users] New E17/linux website
It's a nice idea, but the one thing I would suggest is that you probably suggest a distro that is pretty much set up out of the box. Most Windows users will not be familiar with programming or compiling, but will want things to work right away. Paul On Thu, 2005-11-17 at 21:55 +0100, Liliegren Daniel wrote: > Hi all, > > I have just started up a new website promoting E17 and linux as an > alternative to MS Windows for people who are interested and want to expand > they're horizon. I come from the Windows world myself and work primarily with > MS products at my clients. I took the linux step just 2 months ago (without > hardly any prior linux experience) and found that a lot of the questions I > had was not so easy to find the answer to in the regular linux forums. I had > to find a lot out for myself or ask people I know who are using linux a lot. > > My primary goal with the website is to promote E17 and linux as an > alternative to ordninarie "Windows" people (I already have 3 "Windows" > friends that are trying out linux and E17 on they're private computers right > now :-). I also want to help people get they're linux installations going by > making HOWTO:s and Step-by-step guides to fill in any eventual gaps in other > websites documentations. The entire site is of course non-profit/pro-bono. > > If you would like to participate/provide feedback/promote the site please let > me know by sending an e-mail. > > Best regards, > Daniel Liliegren > http://www.gurugonenoob.com > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today > Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam > for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: > http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv28&alloc_id845&op=click > ___ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the JBoss Inc. Get Certified Today Register for a JBoss Training Course. Free Certification Exam for All Training Attendees Through End of 2005. For more info visit: http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7628&alloc_id=16845&op=click ___ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
