[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed change to bodhi days to stable for epel

2021-07-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý

Dne 22. 07. 21 v 20:42 Troy Dawson napsal(a):

I am proposing that we change the "days to stable" for epel to 7 days, matching Fedora's 
"days to stable".


Hmm, I still thing that EPEL should have higher days-to-stable than Fedora. I am fine with 8 days or even lowering 
Fedora threshold.


People have asked that the epel-next "days to stable" be dropped down to 3 days, matching Fedora when it is in it's 
development phase.  The reasoning is that epel-next is built off CentOS Stream, which only has 6 months at the most 
before it is rolled into the next RHEL release.


+1

Miroslav
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[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed change to bodhi days to stable for epel

2021-07-25 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:42:30AM -0700, Troy Dawson wrote:
> Currently the default days to stable for EPEL is 14 days.
> I believe when it was first put in it was set to that time because we
> wanted things more stable and better tested.  But experience has found that
> if a package is going to get tested, it usually is in the first few days of
> when it was built.  Thus 14 days seems to be 4 days of testing, and 10 days
> of sitting.

Well, we don't actually know when it might be tested. ;) 

I think there's lots of folks out there that consume fedora
updates-testing and epel updates-testing and only add negative karma
when things break. If they don't break, they just ignore it... 

> I am proposing that we change the "days to stable" for epel to 7 days,
> matching Fedora's "days to stable".
> 
> People have asked that the epel-next "days to stable" be dropped down to 3
> days, matching Fedora when it is in it's development phase.  The reasoning
> is that epel-next is built off CentOS Stream, which only has 6 months at
> the most before it is rolled into the next RHEL release.
> 
> If people could give any cases for, or against these, please respond here.
> The EPEL Steering Committee will have a vote at our next meeting (July 28).

I guess I'm fine with changing it, but it's hard to say how much effect
it will have. Perhaps we could gather some stats and revisit it after
some time?

kevin


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[EPEL-devel] Re: Proposed change to bodhi days to stable for epel

2021-07-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 at 14:42, Troy Dawson  wrote:
>
> Currently the default days to stable for EPEL is 14 days.
> I believe when it was first put in it was set to that time because we wanted 
> things more stable and better tested.  But experience has found that if a 
> package is going to get tested, it usually is in the first few days of when 
> it was built.  Thus 14 days seems to be 4 days of testing, and 10 days of 
> sitting.
>
> I am proposing that we change the "days to stable" for epel to 7 days, 
> matching Fedora's "days to stable".
>
> People have asked that the epel-next "days to stable" be dropped down to 3 
> days, matching Fedora when it is in it's development phase.  The reasoning is 
> that epel-next is built off CentOS Stream, which only has 6 months at the 
> most before it is rolled into the next RHEL release.
>
> If people could give any cases for, or against these, please respond here.  
> The EPEL Steering Committee will have a vote at our next meeting (July 28).
>

I am personally for these. The world has changed.. and the reasons for
EPEL having a wait were when people were active in testing packages.
These days, people just want stuff and having them wait 14 days no
longer matches that. [Personally I even wonder if updates-testing
makes sense from the very small usage of it.]





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