Re: [eug-lug]MP3 players
Woah, I dunno what you could find out from that page -- although it appears to be a Romanian domain, the character encoding is Korean on my end (I don't read Korean!). A little googling of "iriver mp3 linux" led me to the links below, which seem to indicate that there already exists a firmware update for the device, which allows it to [desirably] operate as a usb mass storage device, and thus be accessed by linux. http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=10846 (some folks had trouble though!) http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shopping/pages/index.html further googling (adding "support mass storage" to prev terms) yielded this gem: http://openglforums.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=25112 as well as a recent /. thread about iriver's new 20gb product, which does ogg! see: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/09/30/006226.shtml So... I picked up this neat O'Reilly mini-ref book, about how to use google. Would anyone care to borrow it? I wouldn't say it helped me accomplish this info-gathering, but maybe it would help? I don't mean to be condescending here, there are many times I ask the list for its collective wisdom w/o googling first, but it is a cool book = ) -like many other o'reilly refs, no astounding info but handy to have it in non-digital tree-form for offline perusal cheers and rock on! Ben On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 22:23:38 -0700 Linux Rocks ! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | Does this answer your question ? | | http://mino.iam.ro/mview.php?guid=181 | I can see this much: | OS WIN98SE/ME/2000/XP | | so... I cant say it will, but maybe redhats support can tell you | better. | | Jamie | | | On Thursday 09 October 2003 06:49 pm, Dirk Ouellette wrote: | : iRiver iFP-195T... ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: Fwd: Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
Good call, Ken!! Mr. O, please observe the most appropriate example
set, and do exercise patience in the future when you feel offended.
Thanks!
Ben
On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 21:47:10 -0700
Ken Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| ...
| On Thursday 09 October 2003 17:26, Mr O wrote:
| > Mmm... smells like flamebait. What's a matter? Don't like
| > people high on God?
|
| Hey, it was just a (slighly modified) quote from an Austin Powers
| movie ("It's freakin' catnip for clones"). I thought it would be
| funny.
|
| And I'm not interested in discussing my views on religion in this
| forum.
|
| Ken
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Damn! Did it again... (hit 'send' before changing the "From:"
address) I hope the moderator rejects the one I sent a minute
ago...
-- Forwarded Message --
On Thursday 09 October 2003 17:26, Mr O wrote:
> Mmm... smells like flamebait. What's a matter? Don't like
> people high on God?
Hey, it was just a (slighly modified) quote from an Austin Powers
movie ("It's freakin' catnip for clones"). I thought it would be
funny.
And I'm not interested in discussing my views on religion in this
forum.
Ken
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Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
On Thursday 09 October 2003 17:31, Linux Rocks ! wrote: > Ken, > Whats up with the duplicate posting? Ive noticed it a few > times before. This time its 2 minutes apart. AAARRRGH! What's happening is that I forget to change my "From:" address before hitting "send". So the friendly server at efn politely informs me that it's holding my response to the list because it's from an address that isn't subscribed to the list. Well, that's fine with me, because I don't want my "normal" email address showing up on any web sites -- including the archive of this list. So after hitting my forehead and saying DOH! and a swear word or two, I resubmit the message with the return address that I want the world seeing (the one that's getting spam anyway). Everything's fine. Then the moderator of the list approves the first posting! So my new, (so far spam-free) email address is now on a couple of web pages (this list's archive) thanks to me making the same stupid mistake twice in a row. RGH! ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]MP3 players
Does this answer your question ? http://mino.iam.ro/mview.php?guid=181 I can see this much: OS WIN98SE/ME/2000/XP so... I cant say it will, but maybe redhats support can tell you better. Jamie On Thursday 09 October 2003 06:49 pm, Dirk Ouellette wrote: : iRiver iFP-195T : 512MB MP3 Player : USB Connection : : : Integrated Digital FM Tuner : Built-in Voice Recorder : : Is there any reason that this unit wouldn't work as a USB device in : RedHat 9? : Dirk : : : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Let's call it an accidental feature. -- Larry Wall ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]MP3 players
That depends, is it recognized as USB Mass Storage? If so it should work in linux. --- Dirk Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > iRiver iFP-195T > 512MB MP3 Player > USB Connection > > > Integrated Digital FM Tuner > Built-in Voice Recorder > > Is there any reason that this unit wouldn't work as a USB > device in > RedHat 9? > Dirk __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]MP3 players
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Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
Wait a minute! you just ask to keep religion out of the list (I agree...), but in the same paragraph, did the oposite of what you advise? Thats sending a mixed signal... So... email politics/religion off list please (or post to activism...) For what its worth, I dont think there is an objection to wether or not they are high on something, the objection is to their behavior. Its perfectly ok to tell someone what to do or not to do, but not to tell them what to think or feel. Jamie On Thursday 09 October 2003 05:26 pm, Mr O wrote: : Mmm... smells like flamebait. What's a matter? Don't like people : high on God? Better is one day of quality time with my creator : than the many times I've been high on other things. Anyway, talk : computers, not religion/faith. : And happy tree hugging. : : Mr O. (a.k.a. NOT AN ATHEIST) : : --- Ken Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>foolishly wrote: : > Really? I'd like to have a few of 'em... I think they're a : > great spoof on the Jack Chick tracts (chick.com, if you can : > hold : > your stomach long enough to look at the site) that are like : > frickin' catnip for Christians : > : > Ken : : __ : Do you Yahoo!? : The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search : http://shopping.yahoo.com : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Let's call it an accidental feature. -- Larry Wall ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
Mmm... smells like flamebait. What's a matter? Don't like people high on God? Better is one day of quality time with my creator than the many times I've been high on other things. Anyway, talk computers, not religion/faith. And happy tree hugging. Mr O. (a.k.a. NOT AN ATHEIST) --- Ken Barber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>foolishly wrote: > Really? I'd like to have a few of 'em... I think they're a > great spoof on the Jack Chick tracts (chick.com, if you can > hold > your stomach long enough to look at the site) that are like > frickin' catnip for Christians > > Ken __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
On Thursday 09 October 2003 12:36 pm, Cory Petkovsek wrote: : Wrap them in plastic and toss them on driveways!!? Then she scans the : paper for people committing crimes and spams them! Sheesh, maybe we : should give her the addresses of some spammers! and maybe vice versa! Jamie : : Cory -- Whip me. Beat me. Make me maintain AIX. -- Stephan Zielinski ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]speeches (was: Firewalls...)
On Thursday 09 October 2003 12:29 pm, Cory Petkovsek wrote: : On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:56:47PM -0700, Jack Morgan wrote: : > Well, perhaps we could have another presentation on iptables? I'd also : > like to hear more on the topic. : : I've actually given a speech on netfilter and iptables twice at euglug. : Once in 2000 or 2001 I think, and then one maybe earlier this year or : late last year. I also gave a speech on vpns in april or may, although : only a handful of people showed up. I'm planning on giving another : speech in the near future somewhere on the lines of a project I've been : working on: : +(samba) : spamassassin+amavisd-new+postfix+ ldap +(sasl+kerberos) : (courier-imap)+ +pam ohh... the old SANPL-SKCP (sounds like sample-skip) Im thinking advanced mail server topics might be more marketable! : : So far I have all but the () implemented, and I'm not sure if I'll go on : to all of the rest. It was all driven by a need for a better mail : filter, one that rejected mail for users that don't exist on an internal : server. Any of the above topics could be a whole speech, let alone the : combination. I'll welcome comments as for which components of the above : people would like to hear a speech on. I think that maybe an presentation that is more of an overview of all subjects might be a good idea, then do a quick poll of which parts need more going over, and either cover them during the second part of your presentation or schedule a follow up presentation with those details. It would be a more sophisticated presentation, but you adapt quite well... Im sure you will do a great job. Note: being that im 3,000 miles away, and wont likely make that presentation, the weight of my opinion is greatly diminished :( BTW, The original iptables presentation was a couple years ago, the more recent one was 11-2-02 acording to www.euglug.org I think I was at both, but late for the second one... the first one had a great draw (30-40 people), lots of excellent questions, and really funny examples of what you can do with iptables (my fav was blocking port 25 from 8am-5pm on the boss's ip) There were some nice examples of mangling too... sadly I cant rememer them too clearly now. Jamie : : Cory -- ..you could spend *all day* customizing the title bar. Believe me. I speak from experience. -- Matt Welsh ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Firewalls...
On Thursday 09 October 2003 01:42 pm, Ralph Zeller wrote: : Jamie, : : Hope your father's ok. Thank you. He's been better... but then, hes also been worse. Right now, im happy with stable! : : I don't know that much about iptables; there seem to be plenty of tutorials : about it, though. The main thing is to close everything up, then be very : selective about what comes through. yeah... lots! and most are very long, kind of confusing and dont really help the average person setup something simple and quick. I remember ipchains was pretty easy to get a decent firewall/gateway up. : : Here's a iptables trick I use home. Sometimes the win98 box does dial-up : directly, sometimes the linux box dials and shares. : : I set win98 to use my linux box as the default route and DNS server--which : it overrides for direct dialup from win98. When the linux box dials out, : I use fetchmail/postfix for getting/sending mail, but I didn't want to have : to adjust any settings on the win98 box for this. thats an interesting solution to that issue... Ive never really used the windows box to dialup, except to try juno/netzero as an ISP... the rest of the time I go through the linux box. A lot of use use fetchmail, I havnt really seen much need for it myself, I use the smtp of my local ISP, and pop from anywhere... no need to buffer my mail on the firewall... : : These lines in my firewall setup will intercept the connections from the : win98 box for getting and sending mail, regardless of which isp I choose : to connect. : : Ralph : : echo "Rerouting to this smtp server, my isp won't relay from here." : iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 25 -s ! 192.168.2.50/32 \ : -j MARK --set-mark 444 : iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -m mark --mark 444 -j DNAT \ : --to-destination 192.168.2.50 : : echo "Intercept connections to pop.myisp.IP.net, reroute to this host." : iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 110 -s ! 192.168.2.50/32 \ : -j MARK --set-mark 555 : iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -m mark --mark 555 -j DNAT \ : --to-destination 192.168.2.50 Nice... If I manage to get some of these linux things online and this looks quite worthy of the firewall section! Jamie : : On 10/09/03 12am, Jamie wrote: : > we have a small bit of notes on his talk, they can be found at: : > http://www.euglug.org/minutes.phtml?id=31 : > and you can download his notes at: : > http://www.euglug.org/stateful_firewalling.tgz : > Unfortuantly, If cory gives it again, I wont be able to attend :( : > Id like to see cory do more presentations, he seems to have quite the : > nack for it. Ralph's presentation was pretty decent too. : > : > Jamie : > : > On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:56 pm, Jack Morgan wrote: : > : On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 20:45, Linux Rocks ! wrote: : > : > So... Im finally getting around to setting up a firewall with : > : > IPTables. I havent built a firewall since IPMASQ, and well.. IPTables : > : > is a bit different. Cory did a great presentation a few years back, : > : > one of the best presentations weve had I might add :) : > : : > : Well, perhaps we could have another presentation on iptables? I'd also : > : like to hear more on the topic. : : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- How should I know if it works? That's what beta testers are for. I only coded it. -- Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 10:16:48AM -0700, Ken Barber wrote: > On Thursday 09 October 2003 12:56, Linux Rocks ! wrote: > > > I'll assume you mean "the beautiful gift of linux". I agree... > > it was funny for about 15 minutes, and seth printed way to many > > of them (like 5000 or something) many years later we still have > > about %75 of them... > > Really? I'd like to have a few of 'em... I think they're a great > spoof on the Jack Chick tracts (chick.com, if you can hold your > stomach long enough to look at the site) that are like frickin' > catnip for Christians Sheesh, one woman admits to being a litter bug on the website: Being shy didn't stop me "My husband is a minister who does evangelistic work, but I am shy. I am active in my church but I wanted so much to witness to non-Christians... I have been leaving Chick tracts everywhere! I leave them on shelves in the grocery store and drug stores, on phone booths, on newspaper boxes, in restaurants, in public restrooms, at the doctor's office. I made special trips to the local health department, WIC clinic, homeless health clinic...just to leave tracts. Even the food stamp office and Dept. of Human Services waiting rooms. The public library. Outside the high school in a bad neighborhood. I wrap them in plastic and toss them in driveways! I scan the local section of our paper for people convicted of DUI or other crimes and mail the tracts! If people did this in every town, so many could be reached. Oh yes, I send SOMEBODY LOVES ME to abortion clinics." Wrap them in plastic and toss them on driveways!!? Then she scans the paper for people committing crimes and spams them! Sheesh, maybe we should give her the addresses of some spammers! Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]speeches (was: Firewalls...)
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 08:56:47PM -0700, Jack Morgan wrote: > Well, perhaps we could have another presentation on iptables? I'd also > like to hear more on the topic. I've actually given a speech on netfilter and iptables twice at euglug. Once in 2000 or 2001 I think, and then one maybe earlier this year or late last year. I also gave a speech on vpns in april or may, although only a handful of people showed up. I'm planning on giving another speech in the near future somewhere on the lines of a project I've been working on: +(samba) spamassassin+amavisd-new+postfix+ ldap +(sasl+kerberos) (courier-imap)+ +pam So far I have all but the () implemented, and I'm not sure if I'll go on to all of the rest. It was all driven by a need for a better mail filter, one that rejected mail for users that don't exist on an internal server. Any of the above topics could be a whole speech, let alone the combination. I'll welcome comments as for which components of the above people would like to hear a speech on. Cory -- Cory Petkovsek Adapting Information Adaptable IT ConsultingTechnology to your (541) 914-8417 business [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AdaptableIT.com ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Firewalls...
Jamie, Hope your father's ok. I don't know that much about iptables; there seem to be plenty of tutorials about it, though. The main thing is to close everything up, then be very selective about what comes through. Here's a iptables trick I use home. Sometimes the win98 box does dial-up directly, sometimes the linux box dials and shares. I set win98 to use my linux box as the default route and DNS server--which it overrides for direct dialup from win98. When the linux box dials out, I use fetchmail/postfix for getting/sending mail, but I didn't want to have to adjust any settings on the win98 box for this. These lines in my firewall setup will intercept the connections from the win98 box for getting and sending mail, regardless of which isp I choose to connect. Ralph echo "Rerouting to this smtp server, my isp won't relay from here." iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 25 -s ! 192.168.2.50/32 \ -j MARK --set-mark 444 iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -m mark --mark 444 -j DNAT \ --to-destination 192.168.2.50 echo "Intercept connections to pop.myisp.IP.net, reroute to this host." iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -p tcp --dport 110 -s ! 192.168.2.50/32 \ -j MARK --set-mark 555 iptables -A PREROUTING -t nat -m mark --mark 555 -j DNAT \ --to-destination 192.168.2.50 On 10/09/03 12am, Jamie wrote: > we have a small bit of notes on his talk, they can be found at: > http://www.euglug.org/minutes.phtml?id=31 > and you can download his notes at: > http://www.euglug.org/stateful_firewalling.tgz > Unfortuantly, If cory gives it again, I wont be able to attend :( > Id like to see cory do more presentations, he seems to have quite the nack for > it. Ralph's presentation was pretty decent too. > > Jamie > > > On Thursday 09 October 2003 08:56 pm, Jack Morgan wrote: > : On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 20:45, Linux Rocks ! wrote: > : > So... Im finally getting around to setting up a firewall with IPTables. I > : > havent built a firewall since IPMASQ, and well.. IPTables is a bit > : > different. Cory did a great presentation a few years back, one of the > : > best presentations weve had I might add :) > : > : Well, perhaps we could have another presentation on iptables? I'd also > : like to hear more on the topic. > ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]I could use some help
I promised someone a Knoppix for tonight's clinic unfortunately press of events (and running out of disc space on the target partition ) means that I am not going to have one ready by tonight if you have lots'o'bandwidth + time + energy please help me out by snarfing ftp://ftp.bendug.org/pub/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-22-EN.iso and ftp://ftp.bendug.org/pub/knoppix/KNOPPIX_V3.3-2003-09-22-EN.iso.md5 verify, burn and bring to euglug, I will copy and distribute as needed. thank you -- "The Internet is falling" --C. Little 2003 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
Ken,
Whats up with the duplicate posting? Ive noticed it a few times before. This
time its 2 minutes apart.
Jamie
On Thursday 09 October 2003 10:18 am, Ken Barber wrote:
: On Thursday 09 October 2003 12:56, Linux Rocks ! wrote:
: > I'll assume you mean "the beautiful gift of linux". I agree...
: > it was funny for about 15 minutes, and seth printed way to many
: > of them (like 5000 or something) many years later we still have
: > about %75 of them...
:
: Really? I'd like to have a few of 'em... I think they're a
: great spoof on the Jack Chick tracts (chick.com, if you can hold
: your stomach long enough to look at the site) that are like
: frickin' catnip for Christians
:
: Ken
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 12:56, Linux Rocks ! wrote: > I'll assume you mean "the beautiful gift of linux". I agree... > it was funny for about 15 minutes, and seth printed way to many > of them (like 5000 or something) many years later we still have > about %75 of them... Really? I'd like to have a few of 'em... I think they're a great spoof on the Jack Chick tracts (chick.com, if you can hold your stomach long enough to look at the site) that are like frickin' catnip for Christians Ken ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
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On Thursday 09 October 2003 12:56, Linux Rocks ! wrote: > I'll assume you mean "the beautiful gift of linux". I agree... > it was funny for about 15 minutes, and seth printed way to many > of them (like 5000 or something) many years later we still have > about %75 of them... Really? I'd like to have a few of 'em... I think they're a great spoof on the Jack Chick tracts (chick.com, if you can hold your stomach long enough to look at the site) that are like frickin' catnip for Christians Ken ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
Ken, I'll assume you mean "the beautiful gift of linux". I agree... it was funny for about 15 minutes, and seth printed way to many of them (like 5000 or something) many years later we still have about %75 of them... Since you spoke up, Ill nominate you for the new brochure designer... Jamie On Thursday 09 October 2003 09:38 am, Ken Barber wrote: : On Thursday 09 October 2003 03:32, Bob Miller wrote: : > The Linux Brochure Project : > http://lbproject.sourceforge.net/ : : [snip] : : > We should do an EUGLUG version. : : I like the Euglug religious tract! Last time I looked, I couldn't : find it online, but I wish it were. : : Ken : ___ : EuG-LUG mailing list : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug -- Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin charging at them in excess of 100mph. They'd be a lot more careful about what they say if they had. -- Linus Torvalds, announcing Linux v2.0 ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
Re: [eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
On Thursday 09 October 2003 03:32, Bob Miller wrote: > The Linux Brochure Project > http://lbproject.sourceforge.net/ [snip] > > We should do an EUGLUG version. I like the Euglug religious tract! Last time I looked, I couldn't find it online, but I wish it were. Ken ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
[eug-lug]Linux Brochure Project
The Linux Brochure Project http://lbproject.sourceforge.net/ The VLUG (Victoria, BC) created this project for an open source Linux brochure. It can be customized with different graphics or text and given away by LUGs like ours. We should do an EUGLUG version. -- Bob Miller K kbobsoft software consulting http://kbobsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mailman.efn.org/cgi-bin/listinfo/eug-lug
