Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses
Generally speaking hub motors without shafts have a high unsprung weight and therefore have a rougher ride and a lot of stress on the motor. 24 kwh = 186 miles is more what I have problems with. 4 miles / kwh is great efficiency better than Tesla. The article did mention a max speed of 47 mph and rule of thumb at 45 mph aerodynamic forces are not significant so light weight vehicle does very well. Michael 'T-Rex' Kadie -Original Message- From: EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:08 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV4the masses On 17 May 2015 at 19:22, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: Personally, my skepticism revolves around the hub motors (pun intended). Lots of people have tried them, and few or none have succeeded. I'm sure I've missed some of the attempts, but this is one I recall that came close to success (though nowhere near production). They mention some handling problems but (I think) blame them on the somewhat high CG and narrow track. http://www.gaura.com/ev/luciole/index_e.html I have to confess that I've been smitten with this little gem since I first read of it in the late 1990s. It's impressive design work for college students, quite refined. What a pity it never even got close to production. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses
On 17 May 2015 at 19:22, Mike Nickerson via EV wrote: > Personally, my skepticism revolves around the hub motors (pun intended). Lots > of people have tried them, and few or none have succeeded. I'm sure I've missed some of the attempts, but this is one I recall that came close to success (though nowhere near production). They mention some handling problems but (I think) blame them on the somewhat high CG and narrow track. http://www.gaura.com/ev/luciole/index_e.html I have to confess that I've been smitten with this little gem since I first read of it in the late 1990s. It's impressive design work for college students, quite refined. What a pity it never even got close to production. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses
Personally, my skepticism revolves around the hub motors (pun intended). Lots of people have tried them, and few or none have succeeded. If the motor was something else, I think their chance of success would be higher. However, a year is a very aggressive target. To me, the project seems similar in scope to the Sunrise 2 project. It is a huge project. Mike On May 17, 2015 6:44:18 PM MDT, Ben Goren via EV wrote: >Huh? Why the pessimism? > >EVWest sells complete VW conversion kits, including a 22 kWh battery >pack, for $19K. That leaves 4K for the sled -- more than enough. > >b& > >On May 17, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Alan Arrison via EV >wrote: > >> Good luck with that... >> >> On 5/17/2015 3:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >>> >>> >http://www.hybridcars.com/open-source-project-hopes-to-offer-23000-ev-with-186-miles-range/ >>> Open Source Project Hopes To Offer $23,000 EV With 186 Miles Range >>> by Sarah Shelton May 14, 2015 >>> >> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses
Huh? Why the pessimism? EVWest sells complete VW conversion kits, including a 22 kWh battery pack, for $19K. That leaves 4K for the sled -- more than enough. b& On May 17, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Alan Arrison via EV wrote: > Good luck with that... > > On 5/17/2015 3:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: >> >> http://www.hybridcars.com/open-source-project-hopes-to-offer-23000-ev-with-186-miles-range/ >> Open Source Project Hopes To Offer $23,000 EV With 186 Miles Range >> by Sarah Shelton May 14, 2015 >> >> > > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150517/74baceb3/attachment.pgp> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses
Good luck with that... On 5/17/2015 3:00 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: http://www.hybridcars.com/open-source-project-hopes-to-offer-23000-ev-with-186-miles-range/ Open Source Project Hopes To Offer $23,000 EV With 186 Miles Range by Sarah Shelton May 14, 2015 ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Inexpensive retiree-friendly EV?
On May 10, 2015, at 9:42 AM, Danpatgal via EV wrote: > Low mile 2012 iMiev's are listed anywhere from $7.5 to $10k. I planted the bug after I drove them back from the airport last night. We'll see what, if anything it develops into...but I'm pretty sure it's now on their short list...and I don't think they had anything at all on their short list until now. Thanks again! b& -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 801 bytes Desc: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150517/b1451eba/attachment.pgp> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Supercharging is not the way.
Roland via EV wrote: Did any of you monitor the voltage of the most negative cell and the most positive cell during the charging cycle and discharge cycle using a very high charging system?... Did not have any BMS back in the 70's at the time. During the discharging cycle which may be up to 800 motor amperes, the most positive cell would always end up less voltage than the most positive cell. There has been anecdotal evidence of this for many years. It's sometimes seen in big UPS that use many small batteries in series, or in big industrial batteries. The effect seems to be caused because batteries at the positive or negative ends of the string also being at the outside ends or corners of a pack. They run cooler there, as a consequence of having more exposed surface area. -- A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. -- Antoine de Saint Exupery -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Wiring sizing
An ampacity chart is also a good google images search. Remember that ampacity depends on insulation and how well the wire or bundle of wires can convect heat to air. On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 12:34 AM, John Lussmyer via EV wrote: > On Sat May 16 21:21:56 PDT 2015 ev@lists.evdl.org said: > >How do I find a chart about wire sizing n resitance. > > How about a google search for "wire sizing resistance"? > > 2nd hit is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_wire_gauge > > > > > -- > > Try my Sensible Email package! > https://sourceforge.net/projects/sensibleemail/ > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell michael.e.r...@gmail.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20150517/604de243/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Flying-saucer & floating-orb e-drones, & new e-aircraft unveiled
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3078430/Drones-future-unveiled-Flying-saucer-floating-orb-new-aircraft-soon-skies.html Drones of the future unveiled: Flying saucer and floating orb among new aircraft that could soon take to our skies By Jonathan O'Callaghan for MailOnline | 12 May 2015 [images http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965FF80578-3078430-Companies_have_unveiled_new_drones_at_an_event_in_Atlanta_Georgi-a-12_1431444059374.jpg Companies have unveiled new drones at an event in Atlanta, Georgia. One giant drone resembled a helicopter and could reach 50mph. Another called Atlas used a spherical exoskeleton to stay protected. And one other large drone seemed to resemble a bird of prey (shown here in this artist's impression) http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965F7C0578-3078430-This_electric_plane_called_Lotus_developed_by_Californian_electr-a-15_1431444059389.jpg This electric plane called Lotus, developed by Californian electric propulsion company Joby, uses two bladed rotors on each tip to provide thrust, take off and land http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/17/28980EB70578-0-image-a-1_1431446898666.jpg Joby's Lotus drone uses two bladed rotors on each tip http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965F500578-3078430-Also_on_show_was_an_odd_disc_shaped_vehicle_known_as_Radeus_from-a-14_1431444059383.jpg Also on show was an odd disc-shaped vehicle known as Radeus, from Radeus Labs in California. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965F440578-3078430-The_IT180_is_a_bulbous_UAV_that_can_reach_up_to_56mph_90km_h_and-a-9_1431444059217.jpg The IT180, meanwhile, is a bulbous UAV that can reach up to 56mph (90km/h) and an altitude of 9,840ft (3,000 metres), with more than two hours of battery life. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965EAF0578-3078430-A_giant_seven_foot_wide_plane_called_Eturnas_D_shown_was_also_un-a-8_1431444059210.jpg A giant seven-foot-wide plane called Eturnas D was also unveiled, which partially uses solar power to remain in the air for six hours, reaching speeds of 27mph (43km/h). http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965F200578-3078430-Shown_is_a_spherical_offering_from_Unmanned_Cowboys_named_the_Al-a-13_1431444059381.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965FD10578-3078430-Shown_is_the_huge_SnowGoose_Bravo_from_Mist_Mobility_Integrated_-a-10_1431444059222.jpg Shown is the huge SnowGoose Bravo from Mist Mobility Integrated Systems Technology in Canada. Resembling a helicopter, the vehicle can carry 600lbs (270kg) of cargo, reach 18,000ft (5,490 metres) and travel at more than 50mph (80km/h) http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/12/16/28965FD90578-3078430-Pictured_is_the_Hummingbird_II_from_Reference_Technologies_in_Co-a-11_1431444059372.jpg Pictured is the Hummingbird II from Reference Technologies in Colorado, which can stay in the air for more than nine hours using its six propellers video flash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnvXnqwKtzg UFROTestFlight 6 25 kheom Jun 27, 2014 ] -Companies have unveiled new drones at an event in Atlanta, Georgia -One giant drone resembled a helicopter and could reach 50mph -Another called Atlas used a spherical exoskeleton to stay protected -And one other large drone seemed to resemble a bird of prey A solar-powered autonomous plane, a 'flying saucer' and a mechanical bird of prey are just some of the drones that have gone on show at a recent event. The lavish drones were revealed at an event in Atlanta, Georgia, showing what might be next for this emerging industry. And while many have military purposes, they show how new technologies are being used to help vehicles take to the sky. As reported by Defense One, the vehicles were unveiled at the Unmanned Systems 2015 show. One was an electric plane called Lotus, developed by Californian electric propulsion company Joby, which uses two bladed rotors on each tip to provide thrust, take off and land. The blades can rotate to allow the vehicle to take to the skies vertically, before it enters cruise mode by rotating its blades out. AMAZON'S DRONES WILL TRACK YOU DOWN Amazon hopes to put an end to the problem of missed deliveries with its new drone delivery service - by tracking recipients down even if they are out and about. A patent filed by the firm reveals that its drones will lock onto a recipient's smartphone to bring their parcel to their exact location. The machines will even be able to relay information to each other about the weather and traffic conditions on the ground. In cruise mode, with the tail propeller providing the sole propulsion source, it resembles a bird of prey, such as the osprey. It spins two sets of blades in operate directions at 60mph (97km/h) to create lift, while the top of the vehicle acts as an autogyro. A spherical offering from Unmanned Cowboys named the All-Terrain Land and Air Sphere (Atlas) was also shown
[EVDL] EVLN: Open Source Street-Legal affordable long-range EV 4the masses
http://www.hybridcars.com/open-source-project-hopes-to-offer-23000-ev-with-186-miles-range/ Open Source Project Hopes To Offer $23,000 EV With 186 Miles Range by Sarah Shelton May 14, 2015 [images http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Luka-EV.jpg http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Luka-EV-2.jpg http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Luka-EV-electrification-parts.jpg http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Luka-EV-chassis.jpg http://www.hybridcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Luka-EV-battery-pack.jpg ] An open source project is currently in the works to build an electric vehicle powered by in-wheel motors. The goals are ambitious: 1) Build an electric vehicle with a minimum range of 186 miles that can theoretically be put into production and sold for under $22,700. 2) Share the design so that others can replicate or customize the platform. 3) Do it all in less than a year. “The overall aim is to show that all electric cars can be competitive,” said MW Motors of the prototype, which it has named the vehicle the Luka EV. Working from a shop in Plzen, Czech Republic – about 50 miles west of Prague – MW Motors’ team was formed by a handful of enthusiasts. The team plans on sharing full details on the Luka EV on Hackaday.com, a website that encourages an open exchange of ideas, with an emphasis on engineering. “We hope that by open sourcing everything we may even encourage small companies to open building cars locally in different countries,” said the project manager. The project itself is an experiment on a small scale, limited to one vehicle for now. But if the prototype successfully meets the team’s goals, MW Motors see three possibilities. The first is that an outside company will take the concept and customize it to fit a specific market segment. “We are sharing a platform, not just a car called the Luka EV,” explained MW Motors. “The platform is very flexible. We think that with subtle changes to the chassis design that people can make themselves, it should be easy to make a range of cars [such as] a family car, a modern city car, a taxi or even light goods vehicles.” The company could also commercialize the Luka EV, though MW Motors doesn’t know if this is a suitable direction. “We are not sure if we will make it commercial or just leave a platform for others to develop,” MW Motors said. The team leader said the most likely option of the three is to create a kit car for consumers to assemble. “We will probably sell all the parts needed to make a car as a kit,” said MW Motors. “Furthermore, we will release details of all the vendors we use and (if legally possible and approved by a vendor) we will say how much each component costs us. If this is not possible, we will bundle products” to sell items such as the wheels and tires together. “Bundling would get us over the potential legal issue of showing the amount we paid for a single item.” No matter which opportunities, if any, the project eventually leads to, two final items must be checked off for MW Motors to call the Luka EV a success: the design must be production-grade and a few vehicles must be sold at a profit. “In order for the project to be meet all the stated aims, we must sell some vehicles for under 20,000 euros [$22,700] and we must give documentary proof that we make a profit selling for 20,000 euros. So, without doubt we will need to form a legal entity, make some cars and sell some cars,” MW Motors said. Though the Luka EV’s platform could be altered to create a larger sedan or taxi, MW Motors noted that the expected market is most likely individual commuters: “We did not have a target market at the start of the project … But, talking to people, it seems the majority of people seem to think this would be a perfect car to go to and from work in. “Usually an individual has to pay for the petrol to get to and from work, and almost always they go to work alone. The journey to work is usually short – below 50 km [31 miles] one way, 100 km return. As such, the Luka EV would seem ideal.” The car “only having the seats is not a problem as the kids usually do not go to work with you,” added MW Motors. Significant progress has already been made since the project began. During a recent 5.5-hour range test, the Luka EV drove 128 miles on a single charge, reaching a top speed of 47 mph. The next step is to have the car road certified. Yesterday, MW Motors learned last minute that the testing center in the U.K. has an opening for May 22, and is scrambling to prepare. “Very few pass the test first time around so it is likely we will fail,” MW Motors said. “However, even failing will be good because we will get a definitive list of faults we need to fix.” Powertrain MW Motors wanted only electric power for the Luka EV, selecting hub motors. Mounted within the wheel assembly, the company said it picked this technology because it hub motors arelightweight with few comp
[EVDL] EVLN: Manowitz Builds a clutchless Electric Roadster in Manhattan, NY
http://www.qgazette.com/news/2015-05-13/Features/Manhattan_Man_Builds_Electric_Car.html Manhattan Man Builds Electric Car 2015-05-13 [images http://www.qgazette.com/sites/www.qgazette.com/files/images/2015-05-13/30p1.jpg There are two electric cars (so far) to this story: a 2013 72v DC Electric Roadster with roll cage and canvas body; and a 2015 96v AC Electric “Jeep.” Both cars use the VW chassis system. http://www.qgazette.com/sites/www.qgazette.com/files/images/2015-05-13/30p2.preview.jpg ] Doug Manowitz has built his own car. What started as a science experiment has ended in the construction of a series of electric cars designed for urban use, short range travel and ease of use. Manowitz, who renovates townhouses in the city, purchased at online auction a 72- volt DC forklift motor. His intention was to create a low-voltage, high-torque hoist for use in any building where there might not be adequate Con Edison service or perhaps no service at all. After it became apparent that there would be no need for the motor, he found a junked VW chassis to experiment on. Among the advantages of using an existing chassis, the vehicle may be registered with only a VIN (vehicle identification number) stamped on the frame. A body is not a requirement to pass inspection. Two cars were assembled in the basement of the apartment building garage where Manowitz lives, in Manhattan. The parking garage owners have been very cooperative and installed local 110v convenience outlets for his use near the bays in which Manowitz stores the cars. In both cases he manufactured aluminum adapter plates to mount the motors, and had to find inventive ways to engage the VW drive shaft. In both cases he was fortunate to have the original couplings from the gas engines. “At this point I might add that both cars are ‘clutchless.’ Since the electric motor does not idle when you lift your foot from the accelerator, it is easy to ‘throw’ the transmission into gear. The motor being high-torque will drive the vehicle from rest, even in third gear, although perhaps not efficiently. I might add that we now realize that the newer car with regenerative braking always has the transmission engaged with the motor, unless you pull it into neutral. To shift to a higher gear, you need to ‘double clutch’ or match the rpm of the motor to your coasting speed. Looking into replacing the transmission with a Porsche semi-automatic type to relieve this small problem,” said Manowitz. He has been commuting to work 120 city blocks round trip (about nine miles daily) for two years, weather permitting. The flexibility of the 110v charger permits Manowitz to plug in at the local coffee shop, alongside people plugging in their laptops. “I just carry a 50-foot extension cord in a storage box on board. I frequent restaurants and cafes that have parking in front or nearby and ‘top off’ charge at various waypoints. It frees one from the anxiety of planning a trip around where commercial 220v charging stations may be. And generally in NYC, they are all within parking garages that charge you for parking and again for the use of the charging station. Of course , if you can afford a Tesla, you probably don’t care about the cost of parking,” he said. “The next phase for me is to search out a high school shop class, or a technical school, to collaborate with and teach. I am currently looking for a real estate sponsor to donate industrial space. “Another goal is to contact NYC administration officials, for example the Parks department, and solicit a proposal to furnish them with zero emission electric utility vehicles that are street legal, not NEV type low-speed vehicles. “What we’re doing is really bringing back to life 45-50 year old cars, recycling in a meaningful way, and repurposing “junk” to be functional and clean.” For more photos and some articles, visit Manowitz’ blog at electricroadster.tumblr.com [© qgazette.com] For EVLN posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/who-are-you-going-to-believe-toyota-or-tesla/2015/05/15/5701760e-f9a7-11e4-a47c-e56f4db884ed_story.html Who are you going to believe: Tesla or Toyota? http://gas2.org/2015/05/15/feedback-hyundai-tucson-fcev-owners/ fcv Refueling Takes Longer Than Advertised http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/05/12/solar-impulse-2-takes-renewable-energy-clean-tech-to-new-heights-says-pilot/ Solar Impulse 2 eplane takes renewable energy and clean tech to new heights, says pilot http://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/solar-batteries-toyota-em4820/ Solar And Old hev Batteries Powering Yellowstone Campus http://bikeportland.org/2015/05/12/first-look-yubas-new-spicy-curry-electric-assist-cargo-bike-143114 Yuba’s new ‘Spicy Curry’ electric-assist cargo bike http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/12/india-rolls-out-ev-incentives/ India Rolls Out EV Incentives for scooters,motorcycles,cars,buses, + http://cleantechnica.com/2015/05/14/smith-electric-signs-deal-with-fdg-
[EVDL] EVLN: Airbus E-Fan 2.0 Electric-aircraft production in 2018
http://www.greentechlead.com/electric-vehicle/airbus-to-commercially-produce-e-fan-2-0-in-france-23485 Airbus to commercially produce E-Fan 2.0 in France By Ajith Kumar S May 10, 2015 [image http://www.greentechlead.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/E-Fan_2.0.jpg (Airbus E-Fan 2.0 electric aircraft) ] Airbus is to construct the Final Assembly Line (FAL) for its E-Fan 2.0, all-electric aircraft at Pau in southwest France. E-Fan 2.0 is a two-seater, initial-pilot-trainer version of E-Fan, the electric technical demonstrator aircraft of Airbus. Airbus had launched the E-Fan project in 2012 and presented the first demonstrator craft at the Paris Air Show in 2013. E-Fan went on its first test flight on March 11, 2014 and has since flown 78 test flights spanning 38 flight hours. “The industrialisation of our E-Fan aircraft will help us advance electric flight and also to gain experience to scale up the technology,” Jean Botti, the chief technology officer of Airbus Group, said. Voltair SAS, a fully owned subsidiary of Airbus created last year, will manage the development, production and delivery of E-Fan2.0s besides providing services such as sales and maintenance for E-Fan craft. Airbus is investing 20 million euros in the overall design and development of E-Fan 2.0. Partners of Airbus are also contributing toward the project. Additionally, the project is getting the support of La Nouvelle France Industrielle and the Aquitaine region is offering it a regional subsidy — the FEDER (Le Fonds Européen de Développement Regional) — for 2.25 million euros. Airbus selected Pau for the FAL as it offers direct access to the runway of a medium size airport and good meteorological conditions. Airbus will be completing purchase of the site from the current owner this year and start constructing the FAL by the middle of 2016. The company should be able to roll out the first E-Fan 2.0 from the FAL at the end of 2017 or early 2018. E-Fan 2.0 was a key project in the industrial plans launched by the French government in 2013. [© greentechlead.com] ... http://www.airbusgroup.com/int/en/innovation-environment/e-fan-the-electric-plane.html Airbus Group - E-Fan: the electric plane http://www.abc22now.com/news/top-stories/stories/Electric-Airplanes-Could-Revolutionize-Work-Commutes-130563.shtml Electric Airplanes Could Revolutionize Work Commutes For EVLN posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Airbus-E-Fan-2-0-Electric-aircraft-production-in-2018-tp4675580.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)