Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?

2017-01-19 Thread Jukka Järvinen via EV
How much for the battery enclosure with external connectors? I'll build
upgraded pack inside it (60-80kWh). -Jukka

to 19. tammikuuta 2017 klo 7.56 Cor van de Water via EV 
kirjoitti:

> I am involved in trouble-shooting a pickup truck that is converted with
>
> a (2013) Leaf drivetrain.
>
> However, over the course of the project some mistakes were made and in
>
> particular the BMS computer
>
> (LBC in Nissan language) was damaged and discarded before I got
>
> involved, but the LBC is coded
>
> to the other computers in the car (in particular to the instrument
>
> cluster, it seems) so the only way to
>
> get the project rolling again is to install a matched set of computers
>
> from another Leaf.
>
>
>
> For that purpose, I consider buying a black 2015 Leaf that was
>
> rear-ended but otherwise seems in good shape.
>
> Doors, the whole front end, seats, airbags and so on appear to be in
>
> great shape.
>
> I only need the battery and the computers plus the lower instrument
>
> cluster, everything else is available
>
> so the combination of inverter, charger, motor and transmission is
>
> available
>
> plus all suspension, halfshafts, rear axle, doors and everything on the
>
> front end: all lights, hood, bumper,
>
> bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system, pumps,
>
> harness and fuse boxes.
>
> Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all airbags.
>
> BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage as
>
> well as some interior trim pieces
>
> and door speakers.
>
> Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to buy the
>
> salvage Leaf and strip it.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Cor van de Water
>
> Chief Scientist
>
> Proxim Wireless
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Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?

2017-01-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170119

2017-01-19 Thread brucedp5 via EV


http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Dyson-hires-ex-Tesla-exec-fueling-Dyson-EV-speculation-td4685515.html
EVLN: Dyson hires ex-Tesla exec, fueling Dyson EV speculation
Vacuum maker Dyson has hired Tesla's former communications head, furthering
speculation the company may try to enter the electric car ... Tesla's former
head of comms joins Dyson as company is quietly ... The company has since
been rumored to be building an electric car using its solid state batteries.
Coincidently (or not), Dyson has now hired Tesla's former head ...

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-3-vs-Chevy-Bolt-EV-Design-Price-amp-Features-Comparison-v-td4685514.html
EVLN: Tesla-3 vs Chevy Bolt EV Design, Price & Features Comparison (v)
Only a small percentage of the general … The Chevy Bolt has been dubbed as
the Tesla Killer ... when compared side by side with the upcoming Model 3?
...

+
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Utility-PG-amp-E-Launches-500-one-time-Rebate-for-Electric-Vehicle-Drivers-td4685513.html
Utility PG&E Launches $500 one-time Rebate for Electric Vehicle Drivers
 ... Clean Fuel Rebate for residential, electric ... eligible EV owners can
receive one rebate per owned or leased EV ... Where does the money ... come
from? ... (ratepayer fees) ...

http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/OT-con-EV-fcv-ad-on-L3-EVSE-Big-Oil-Auto-gang-up-to-pit-h2-vs-EVs-td4685512.html
OT con-EV: fcv ad on L3 EVSE, Big Oil,Auto gang-up to pit h2 vs EVs
... targeting .. drivers ... to pay attention to the ads on the pedestal ...
Automakers have only dabbled in hydrogen-electric drivetrains thus far ...
there is a war being fought right now between battery-powered electric cars
and hydrogen ...
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[EVDL] OT con-EV: fcv ad on L3 EVSE, Big Oil, Auto gang-up to pit h2 vs EVs

2017-01-19 Thread brucedp via EV


[ref  ( ...1967 article )
https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg19365.html
>Why did GM stop (Electrovair) development? In 1967 (and again in 2000)
there was a sudden shift to hydrogen fuel cells as the new "fuel of the
future"<
]

% The following is OT (please keep evdl discussions EV related) ... show
EV-competition & efforts by Big Oil,Auto against EVs %

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1108397_toyota-mirai-touted-in-ad-on-electric-car-charging-station
Toyota Mirai touted in ad on electric-car charging station
Jan 18, 2017  John Voelcker  ht2 John Briggs

[images  
http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/ad-for-toyota-mirai-on-electric-car-charging-station-los-angeles-jan-2017-photo-michael-thwaite_100589572_l.jpg
Ad for Toyota Mirai on electric-car charging station, Los Angeles, Jan 2017 
/ Michael Thwaite

http://images.hgmsites.net/med/handicapped-parking-sign-photo-by-ane-cecilie-blicfheldt-norden-org_100438846_m.jpg
Handicapped parking sign  / Ane Cecilie Blicfheldt/norden.org
] ...

Tesla owner and electric-car advocate Michael Thwaite was startled to see a
video ad for the Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel-cell sedan appear on an
electric-car charging station at a Los Angeles Whole Foods market.

He snapped a photo of the ad, and posted it on Facebook [
https://www.facebook.com/MichaelThwaite
], which was where we saw it.

The screen on the other side of the charging station, he noted, showed an ad
offering two hours of free charging, courtesy of the new 2017 Chevrolet Bolt
EV, GM's 238-mile electric hatchback.

The Bolt EV ad certainly makes sense, targeting either existing drivers of
plug-in cars using the station or those interested enough to pay attention
to the ads on the pedestal.

As for the Mirai ad, no doubt Toyota's agency felt that electric-car drivers
would be a more likely audience for an advanced-tech and zero-emission
vehicle than your average large SUV drivers parked in the store's main lot.

And in a bit of counter-programming, the Mirai ad contains the line,
"Refills in 5 minutes or less."

That's presumably targeted at the electric-car driver accustomed to using
the 240-Volt Level 2 charging offered at most stations in store parking
lots.

Those charging sites can add 20 or 25 miles of range per hour, but certainly
can't recharge the complete battery in the Mirai's claimed 5 minutes.

Electric-car owners, of course, will point out that since most plug-in cars
are recharged at home overnight, that charging rate isn't necessarily an
issue for them.

And, as more than one commenter suggested on Thwaite's Facebook post,
hydrogen stations remain scarce ...

In his post, Thwaite noted the general confusion produced around the issue
of using that particular charging station.

The 2-hour free charging offer, he noted, conflicts with the 90-minute
maximum parking time Whole Foods has posted at the entrance to its parking
garage.

The charging station itself, he added, is located next to a pair of
handicapped parking spaces—surely not intended for electric cars to use for
charging.

His conclusion about the Mirai ad on the back side of the charging station?
"Face-palm [
https://www.google.com/search?q=Facepalm
( ... an expression of disbelief, shame, or exasperation)]."

Through December 2016, Toyota has delivered 1,106 Mirais to California
lessees over its 15 months of availability.
[© 2016 Green Car Reports]
...
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1091940_lexus-ad-not-only-sneers-at-plug-ins-but-gets-charging-wrong
Lexus Ad Not Only Sneers At Plug-Ins, But Gets Charging Wrong
...
[dated]
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1095388_lexus-ct-200h-hybrid-ad-slams-electric-bmw-i3-gloves-come-off
Lexus CT 200h Hybrid Ad Slams Electric BMW i3: Gloves Come Off (Nov 2014)
...
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1042037_toyota-prius-plug-in-hybrid-ad-shows-driver-not-plugging-in-video
Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid Ad Shows Driver...Not Plugging In (Video)
...
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/toyota-mirai-fuel-cell-sedan-advertised-on-ev-charging-station-is-ironic-114746.html
Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Sedan Advertised on EV Charging Station Is ...
18 Jan 2017  ... there is a war being fought right now between
battery-powered electric cars and hydrogen ...



https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/automakers-oil-companies-team-up-to-push-hydrogen-investments/
Automakers, oil companies team up to push hydrogen ...
January 18, 2017 - Automakers, oil companies team up to push hydrogen
investments ... Automakers have only dabbled in hydrogen-electric
drivetrains thus far ...
...
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/18/hydrogen-council-_n_14257272.html
Auto Giants Team Up To Invest In Hydrogen (Not Electric) Cars
01/18/2017  Hydrogen-powered cars are a tempting alternative for auto
manufacturers. They offer the incentive of have a much larger range than
electric vehicles, and take ...
...
http://boereport.com/2017/01/17/toyota-shell-among-auto-and-oil-giants-forming-hydrogen-council/
Toyota, Shell Among Auto

Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?

2017-01-19 Thread Jukka Järvinen via EV
ing
> on the
>
> front end: all lights, hood, bumper,
>
> bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system,
> pumps,
>
> harness and fuse boxes.
>
> Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all
> airbags.
>
> BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage
> as
>
> well as some interior trim pieces
>
> and door speakers.
>
> Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to
> buy the
>
> salvage Leaf and strip it.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Cor van de Water
>
> Chief Scientist
>
> Proxim Wireless
>
>
>
> office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water
>
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> cvandewater.info
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[EVDL] Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger manual/ parallel charging

2017-01-19 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Hello EVDL group!
I purchased a couple Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger 622/42202 850W 17A chargers
last year on ebay at a great price, for about $50 US each.  They work
great, they aren't fan cooled but have large heat sinks that one can put a
fan on to keep them cool.   I can't seem to find any manuals on them
anymore- I remember finding something from Sevcon last year but that has
all but disappeared from their site.  Anyone happen to have a manual for
these?  I was also wondering if I could parallel the two of them on the
same pack - effectively get 34 amps of charge.  From what I read it could
work or they could quickly go up in smoke, really don't want the latter :-)
 My pack is 4 x 12v 170 lead amp/hr batteries so they can take a steep
charge.  My snowpig has been running great, so good that demand has
increased from helping others out with clearing their driveways that now
exceeds my pack capacity.  I even resorted to swapping the 600lb pack a
couple weeks ago so I could do more clearing, couldn't wait 8 hours to get
back out!

Cheers
Dan

http://www.evalbum.com/4544
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Re: [EVDL] Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger manual/ parallel charging

2017-01-19 Thread Lee Hart via EV

Dan Baker via EV wrote:

Hello EVDL group!
I purchased a couple Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger 622/42202 850W 17A chargers
last year on ebay at a great price, for about $50 US each.  They work
great, they aren't fan cooled but have large heat sinks that one can put a
fan on to keep them cool.   I can't seem to find any manuals on them
anymore- I remember finding something from Sevcon last year but that has
all but disappeared from their site.  Anyone happen to have a manual for
these?  I was also wondering if I could parallel the two of them on the
same pack - effectively get 34 amps of charge.  From what I read it could
work or they could quickly go up in smoke, really don't want the latter :-)
  My pack is 4 x 12v 170 lead amp/hr batteries so they can take a steep
charge.  My snowpig has been running great, so good that demand has
increased from helping others out with clearing their driveways that now
exceeds my pack capacity.  I even resorted to swapping the 600lb pack a
couple weeks ago so I could do more clearing, couldn't wait 8 hours to get
back out!


Sevcon makes good stuff. I doubt that you can hurt a well-designed 
charger by using two at once on the same battery.


But, it might hurt the batteries. Chargers have some mechanism for 
detecting when the battery is full, so they can cut back the charge rate 
or turn off. With two chargers, you may get twice the finishing current; 
so it might tend to overcharge.


Or, it might be that as soon as one charger sees "full", it turns off. 
That in turn triggers the other one to turn off. So they might wind up 
under-charging.


My advice would be to just try it. Watch what happens to the battery 
voltage and current. If you are happy with what they do to your 
batteries, go for it! :-)


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Re: [EVDL] Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger manual/ parallel charging

2017-01-19 Thread Dan Baker via EV
Thanks Lee!  I will give it a try.  I have a digital voltmeter on my gauge
pack so I can monitor.

Cheers
Dan

On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Lee Hart  wrote:

> Dan Baker via EV wrote:
>
>> Hello EVDL group!
>> I purchased a couple Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger 622/42202 850W 17A
>> chargers
>> last year on ebay at a great price, for about $50 US each.  They work
>> great, they aren't fan cooled but have large heat sinks that one can put a
>> fan on to keep them cool.   I can't seem to find any manuals on them
>> anymore- I remember finding something from Sevcon last year but that has
>> all but disappeared from their site.  Anyone happen to have a manual for
>> these?  I was also wondering if I could parallel the two of them on the
>> same pack - effectively get 34 amps of charge.  From what I read it could
>> work or they could quickly go up in smoke, really don't want the latter
>> :-)
>>   My pack is 4 x 12v 170 lead amp/hr batteries so they can take a steep
>> charge.  My snowpig has been running great, so good that demand has
>> increased from helping others out with clearing their driveways that now
>> exceeds my pack capacity.  I even resorted to swapping the 600lb pack a
>> couple weeks ago so I could do more clearing, couldn't wait 8 hours to get
>> back out!
>>
>
> Sevcon makes good stuff. I doubt that you can hurt a well-designed charger
> by using two at once on the same battery.
>
> But, it might hurt the batteries. Chargers have some mechanism for
> detecting when the battery is full, so they can cut back the charge rate or
> turn off. With two chargers, you may get twice the finishing current; so it
> might tend to overcharge.
>
> Or, it might be that as soon as one charger sees "full", it turns off.
> That in turn triggers the other one to turn off. So they might wind up
> under-charging.
>
> My advice would be to just try it. Watch what happens to the battery
> voltage and current. If you are happy with what they do to your batteries,
> go for it! :-)
>
> --
> Teaching children to program goes against the grain of modern education.
> Just imagine the chaos if they learned to think logically, plan, create,
> implement, test, and execute!
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Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?

2017-01-19 Thread Cor van de Water via EV
 a (2013) Leaf drivetrain.

However, over the course of the project some mistakes were made and in

particular the BMS computer

(LBC in Nissan language) was damaged and discarded before I got

involved, but the LBC is coded

to the other computers in the car (in particular to the instrument

cluster, it seems) so the only way to

get the project rolling again is to install a matched set of computers

from another Leaf.



For that purpose, I consider buying a black 2015 Leaf that was

rear-ended but otherwise seems in good shape.

Doors, the whole front end, seats, airbags and so on appear to be in

great shape.

I only need the battery and the computers plus the lower instrument

cluster, everything else is available

so the combination of inverter, charger, motor and transmission is

available

plus all suspension, halfshafts, rear axle, doors and everything on the

front end: all lights, hood, bumper,

bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system, pumps,

harness and fuse boxes.

Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all airbags.

BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage as

well as some interior trim pieces

and door speakers.

Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to buy the

salvage Leaf and strip it.

Thanks,



Cor van de Water

Chief Scientist

Proxim Wireless



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