Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?
How much for the battery enclosure with external connectors? I'll build upgraded pack inside it (60-80kWh). -Jukka to 19. tammikuuta 2017 klo 7.56 Cor van de Water via EV kirjoitti: > I am involved in trouble-shooting a pickup truck that is converted with > > a (2013) Leaf drivetrain. > > However, over the course of the project some mistakes were made and in > > particular the BMS computer > > (LBC in Nissan language) was damaged and discarded before I got > > involved, but the LBC is coded > > to the other computers in the car (in particular to the instrument > > cluster, it seems) so the only way to > > get the project rolling again is to install a matched set of computers > > from another Leaf. > > > > For that purpose, I consider buying a black 2015 Leaf that was > > rear-ended but otherwise seems in good shape. > > Doors, the whole front end, seats, airbags and so on appear to be in > > great shape. > > I only need the battery and the computers plus the lower instrument > > cluster, everything else is available > > so the combination of inverter, charger, motor and transmission is > > available > > plus all suspension, halfshafts, rear axle, doors and everything on the > > front end: all lights, hood, bumper, > > bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system, pumps, > > harness and fuse boxes. > > Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all airbags. > > BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage as > > well as some interior trim pieces > > and door speakers. > > Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to buy the > > salvage Leaf and strip it. > > Thanks, > > > > Cor van de Water > > Chief Scientist > > Proxim Wireless > > > > office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water > > XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: cvandewater.info > > > > http://www.proxim.com > > > > This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and > > proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received > > this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any > > unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of > > this message is prohibited. > > > > > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170118/d62fd009/attachment.htm > > > > ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/d718419f/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?
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[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170119
http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Dyson-hires-ex-Tesla-exec-fueling-Dyson-EV-speculation-td4685515.html EVLN: Dyson hires ex-Tesla exec, fueling Dyson EV speculation Vacuum maker Dyson has hired Tesla's former communications head, furthering speculation the company may try to enter the electric car ... Tesla's former head of comms joins Dyson as company is quietly ... The company has since been rumored to be building an electric car using its solid state batteries. Coincidently (or not), Dyson has now hired Tesla's former head ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Tesla-3-vs-Chevy-Bolt-EV-Design-Price-amp-Features-Comparison-v-td4685514.html EVLN: Tesla-3 vs Chevy Bolt EV Design, Price & Features Comparison (v) Only a small percentage of the general … The Chevy Bolt has been dubbed as the Tesla Killer ... when compared side by side with the upcoming Model 3? ... + http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Utility-PG-amp-E-Launches-500-one-time-Rebate-for-Electric-Vehicle-Drivers-td4685513.html Utility PG&E Launches $500 one-time Rebate for Electric Vehicle Drivers ... Clean Fuel Rebate for residential, electric ... eligible EV owners can receive one rebate per owned or leased EV ... Where does the money ... come from? ... (ratepayer fees) ... http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/OT-con-EV-fcv-ad-on-L3-EVSE-Big-Oil-Auto-gang-up-to-pit-h2-vs-EVs-td4685512.html OT con-EV: fcv ad on L3 EVSE, Big Oil,Auto gang-up to pit h2 vs EVs ... targeting .. drivers ... to pay attention to the ads on the pedestal ... Automakers have only dabbled in hydrogen-electric drivetrains thus far ... there is a war being fought right now between battery-powered electric cars and hydrogen ... Jan 14 2017 http://evdl.org/evln/ For all EVLN EV-newswire posts {brucedp.neocities.org} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20170119-tp4685516.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] OT con-EV: fcv ad on L3 EVSE, Big Oil, Auto gang-up to pit h2 vs EVs
[ref ( ...1967 article ) https://www.mail-archive.com/ev@lists.evdl.org/msg19365.html >Why did GM stop (Electrovair) development? In 1967 (and again in 2000) there was a sudden shift to hydrogen fuel cells as the new "fuel of the future"< ] % The following is OT (please keep evdl discussions EV related) ... show EV-competition & efforts by Big Oil,Auto against EVs % http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1108397_toyota-mirai-touted-in-ad-on-electric-car-charging-station Toyota Mirai touted in ad on electric-car charging station Jan 18, 2017 John Voelcker ht2 John Briggs [images http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/ad-for-toyota-mirai-on-electric-car-charging-station-los-angeles-jan-2017-photo-michael-thwaite_100589572_l.jpg Ad for Toyota Mirai on electric-car charging station, Los Angeles, Jan 2017 / Michael Thwaite http://images.hgmsites.net/med/handicapped-parking-sign-photo-by-ane-cecilie-blicfheldt-norden-org_100438846_m.jpg Handicapped parking sign / Ane Cecilie Blicfheldt/norden.org ] ... Tesla owner and electric-car advocate Michael Thwaite was startled to see a video ad for the Toyota Mirai hydrogen fuel-cell sedan appear on an electric-car charging station at a Los Angeles Whole Foods market. He snapped a photo of the ad, and posted it on Facebook [ https://www.facebook.com/MichaelThwaite ], which was where we saw it. The screen on the other side of the charging station, he noted, showed an ad offering two hours of free charging, courtesy of the new 2017 Chevrolet Bolt EV, GM's 238-mile electric hatchback. The Bolt EV ad certainly makes sense, targeting either existing drivers of plug-in cars using the station or those interested enough to pay attention to the ads on the pedestal. As for the Mirai ad, no doubt Toyota's agency felt that electric-car drivers would be a more likely audience for an advanced-tech and zero-emission vehicle than your average large SUV drivers parked in the store's main lot. And in a bit of counter-programming, the Mirai ad contains the line, "Refills in 5 minutes or less." That's presumably targeted at the electric-car driver accustomed to using the 240-Volt Level 2 charging offered at most stations in store parking lots. Those charging sites can add 20 or 25 miles of range per hour, but certainly can't recharge the complete battery in the Mirai's claimed 5 minutes. Electric-car owners, of course, will point out that since most plug-in cars are recharged at home overnight, that charging rate isn't necessarily an issue for them. And, as more than one commenter suggested on Thwaite's Facebook post, hydrogen stations remain scarce ... In his post, Thwaite noted the general confusion produced around the issue of using that particular charging station. The 2-hour free charging offer, he noted, conflicts with the 90-minute maximum parking time Whole Foods has posted at the entrance to its parking garage. The charging station itself, he added, is located next to a pair of handicapped parking spaces—surely not intended for electric cars to use for charging. His conclusion about the Mirai ad on the back side of the charging station? "Face-palm [ https://www.google.com/search?q=Facepalm ( ... an expression of disbelief, shame, or exasperation)]." Through December 2016, Toyota has delivered 1,106 Mirais to California lessees over its 15 months of availability. [© 2016 Green Car Reports] ... http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1091940_lexus-ad-not-only-sneers-at-plug-ins-but-gets-charging-wrong Lexus Ad Not Only Sneers At Plug-Ins, But Gets Charging Wrong ... [dated] http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1095388_lexus-ct-200h-hybrid-ad-slams-electric-bmw-i3-gloves-come-off Lexus CT 200h Hybrid Ad Slams Electric BMW i3: Gloves Come Off (Nov 2014) ... http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1042037_toyota-prius-plug-in-hybrid-ad-shows-driver-not-plugging-in-video Toyota Prius Plug-In Hybrid Ad Shows Driver...Not Plugging In (Video) ... http://www.autoevolution.com/news/toyota-mirai-fuel-cell-sedan-advertised-on-ev-charging-station-is-ironic-114746.html Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Sedan Advertised on EV Charging Station Is ... 18 Jan 2017 ... there is a war being fought right now between battery-powered electric cars and hydrogen ... https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/automakers-oil-companies-team-up-to-push-hydrogen-investments/ Automakers, oil companies team up to push hydrogen ... January 18, 2017 - Automakers, oil companies team up to push hydrogen investments ... Automakers have only dabbled in hydrogen-electric drivetrains thus far ... ... http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2017/01/18/hydrogen-council-_n_14257272.html Auto Giants Team Up To Invest In Hydrogen (Not Electric) Cars 01/18/2017 Hydrogen-powered cars are a tempting alternative for auto manufacturers. They offer the incentive of have a much larger range than electric vehicles, and take ... ... http://boereport.com/2017/01/17/toyota-shell-among-auto-and-oil-giants-forming-hydrogen-council/ Toyota, Shell Among Auto
Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?
ing > on the > > front end: all lights, hood, bumper, > > bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system, > pumps, > > harness and fuse boxes. > > Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all > airbags. > > BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage > as > > well as some interior trim pieces > > and door speakers. > > Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to > buy the > > salvage Leaf and strip it. > > Thanks, > > > > Cor van de Water > > Chief Scientist > > Proxim Wireless > > > > office +1 408 383 7626Skype: cor_van_de_water > > XoIP +31 87 784 1130private: > cvandewater.info > > > > http://www.proxim.com > > > > This email message (including any attachments) contains > confidential and > > proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you > received > > this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any > > unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part > of > > this message is prohibited. > > > > > > -- next part -- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/ > attachments/20170118/d62fd009/attachment.htm> > > ___ > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > > > > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/ > attachments/20170119/361a516c/attachment.htm> > ___ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/cece93ca/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
[EVDL] Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger manual/ parallel charging
Hello EVDL group! I purchased a couple Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger 622/42202 850W 17A chargers last year on ebay at a great price, for about $50 US each. They work great, they aren't fan cooled but have large heat sinks that one can put a fan on to keep them cool. I can't seem to find any manuals on them anymore- I remember finding something from Sevcon last year but that has all but disappeared from their site. Anyone happen to have a manual for these? I was also wondering if I could parallel the two of them on the same pack - effectively get 34 amps of charge. From what I read it could work or they could quickly go up in smoke, really don't want the latter :-) My pack is 4 x 12v 170 lead amp/hr batteries so they can take a steep charge. My snowpig has been running great, so good that demand has increased from helping others out with clearing their driveways that now exceeds my pack capacity. I even resorted to swapping the 600lb pack a couple weeks ago so I could do more clearing, couldn't wait 8 hours to get back out! Cheers Dan http://www.evalbum.com/4544 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/26343d81/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger manual/ parallel charging
Dan Baker via EV wrote: Hello EVDL group! I purchased a couple Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger 622/42202 850W 17A chargers last year on ebay at a great price, for about $50 US each. They work great, they aren't fan cooled but have large heat sinks that one can put a fan on to keep them cool. I can't seem to find any manuals on them anymore- I remember finding something from Sevcon last year but that has all but disappeared from their site. Anyone happen to have a manual for these? I was also wondering if I could parallel the two of them on the same pack - effectively get 34 amps of charge. From what I read it could work or they could quickly go up in smoke, really don't want the latter :-) My pack is 4 x 12v 170 lead amp/hr batteries so they can take a steep charge. My snowpig has been running great, so good that demand has increased from helping others out with clearing their driveways that now exceeds my pack capacity. I even resorted to swapping the 600lb pack a couple weeks ago so I could do more clearing, couldn't wait 8 hours to get back out! Sevcon makes good stuff. I doubt that you can hurt a well-designed charger by using two at once on the same battery. But, it might hurt the batteries. Chargers have some mechanism for detecting when the battery is full, so they can cut back the charge rate or turn off. With two chargers, you may get twice the finishing current; so it might tend to overcharge. Or, it might be that as soon as one charger sees "full", it turns off. That in turn triggers the other one to turn off. So they might wind up under-charging. My advice would be to just try it. Watch what happens to the battery voltage and current. If you are happy with what they do to your batteries, go for it! :-) -- Teaching children to program goes against the grain of modern education. Just imagine the chaos if they learned to think logically, plan, create, implement, test, and execute! -- Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger manual/ parallel charging
Thanks Lee! I will give it a try. I have a digital voltmeter on my gauge pack so I can monitor. Cheers Dan On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Lee Hart wrote: > Dan Baker via EV wrote: > >> Hello EVDL group! >> I purchased a couple Sevcon 48V DC Battery Charger 622/42202 850W 17A >> chargers >> last year on ebay at a great price, for about $50 US each. They work >> great, they aren't fan cooled but have large heat sinks that one can put a >> fan on to keep them cool. I can't seem to find any manuals on them >> anymore- I remember finding something from Sevcon last year but that has >> all but disappeared from their site. Anyone happen to have a manual for >> these? I was also wondering if I could parallel the two of them on the >> same pack - effectively get 34 amps of charge. From what I read it could >> work or they could quickly go up in smoke, really don't want the latter >> :-) >> My pack is 4 x 12v 170 lead amp/hr batteries so they can take a steep >> charge. My snowpig has been running great, so good that demand has >> increased from helping others out with clearing their driveways that now >> exceeds my pack capacity. I even resorted to swapping the 600lb pack a >> couple weeks ago so I could do more clearing, couldn't wait 8 hours to get >> back out! >> > > Sevcon makes good stuff. I doubt that you can hurt a well-designed charger > by using two at once on the same battery. > > But, it might hurt the batteries. Chargers have some mechanism for > detecting when the battery is full, so they can cut back the charge rate or > turn off. With two chargers, you may get twice the finishing current; so it > might tend to overcharge. > > Or, it might be that as soon as one charger sees "full", it turns off. > That in turn triggers the other one to turn off. So they might wind up > under-charging. > > My advice would be to just try it. Watch what happens to the battery > voltage and current. If you are happy with what they do to your batteries, > go for it! :-) > > -- > Teaching children to program goes against the grain of modern education. > Just imagine the chaos if they learned to think logically, plan, create, > implement, test, and execute! > -- > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com > -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/5d1362f0/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
Re: [EVDL] Anyone interested in 2015 Leaf drivetrain or interior/exterior/suspension parts?
a (2013) Leaf drivetrain. However, over the course of the project some mistakes were made and in particular the BMS computer (LBC in Nissan language) was damaged and discarded before I got involved, but the LBC is coded to the other computers in the car (in particular to the instrument cluster, it seems) so the only way to get the project rolling again is to install a matched set of computers from another Leaf. For that purpose, I consider buying a black 2015 Leaf that was rear-ended but otherwise seems in good shape. Doors, the whole front end, seats, airbags and so on appear to be in great shape. I only need the battery and the computers plus the lower instrument cluster, everything else is available so the combination of inverter, charger, motor and transmission is available plus all suspension, halfshafts, rear axle, doors and everything on the front end: all lights, hood, bumper, bumper cover, radiator, A/C heatpump, intelligent brake system, pumps, harness and fuse boxes. Also all interior such as seats, carpeting, headliner and all airbags. BTW, I have an undamaged aluminum rear bumper sitting in my garage as well as some interior trim pieces and door speakers. Let me know your interest, so I can decide if it makes sense to buy the salvage Leaf and strip it. Thanks, Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170118/d62fd009/attachment.htm <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170118/d62fd009/attachment.htm> > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub <http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org <http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA> ) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/361a516c/attachment.htm <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/361a516c/attachment.htm> > ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub <http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org <http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org> Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA> ) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170119/7cd0440a/attachment.htm> ___ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)