[EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20181030

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http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Caterpillar-s-Fisker-investment-100-kWh-Solid-State-Battery-tp4691695.html
EVLN: Caterpillar's Fisker-investment> $100/kWh Solid-State Battery
Caterpillar gets in electric-car business with Fisker investment
22 Oct 2018  Electric vehicle startup Fisker Inc. has received strategic
investment from the venture capital arm of heavy machinery maker Caterpillar
Inc. Los Angeles-based ..
https://media.bizj.us/view/img/11104030/fiskeremotionandorbit*1200xx2133-1200-1497-0.jpg


http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Xing-tw-trollin4-1-3k-hp-Miss-R-EV-ts-270kph-0-100kph-1-8s-v-tp4691696.html
EVLN: Xing.tw trollin4$> 1.3k-hp Miss-R EV ts:270kph 0-100kph:1.8s (v)
Xing Miss R Electric Rally Supercar
2018-10-23  ... Xing ... took inspiration from off-road rally cars ... made
... packs hot-swappable in under 5 minutes ...
https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Xing-Miss-R-Electric-Rally-Supercar-0-Hero.jpg


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https://www.constructionequipment.com/norwegians-develop-25-ton-electric-excavator
Norwegians Develop 25-ton Electric Excavator
We are pleased to have supplied the technology that has helped Pon Equipment
to meet demand from the construction industry ...


https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uber-clean-air-tax-to-pay-for-greener-fleet-zb9rwmc8d
Uber to add pollution levy to fund electric cars
October 23 2018  Uber is to impose a 15p a mile “clean air” levy on
passengers in London from early next year and is considering rolling out
electric bike hire in the capital.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F406ae152-d6d3-11e8-926d-96790161a92a.jpg?crop=2121%2C1193%2C0%2C110
...
https://www.inquisitr.com/5129017/uber-wants-all-of-its-drivers-in-london-to-use-electric-vehicles-by-2025/


http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Unaltruistic-Koch-M-s-4fake-EV-news-are-weirder-than-ever-tp4691650.html
Unaltruistic Koch $M's 4fake-EV-news are weirder than ever
Oil giant Koch Industries try to stop the attempt to expand the electric
vehicle ...
Oct. 26th 2018  With a new Republican-backed effort to expand the electric
vehicle federal tax credit, the Koch brother$ are urging $enator$ to vote
against it – putting their political donation dollar$ at work ... Koch
brothers launched an offensive against electric vehicles through a
multimillion-dollar lobbying campaign ...
https://i1.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/02/koch-brothers-caricature-e1455894843425.jpg




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[EVDL] EVLN: Xing.tw trollin4$> 1.3k-hp Miss-R EV ts:270kph 0-100kph:1.8s (v)

[brucedp5 via EV]

https://hiconsumption.com/2018/10/xing-miss-r-electric-rally-supercar/
Xing Miss R Electric Rally Supercar
2018-10-23  Sean Tirman

[images  
https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Xing-Miss-R-Electric-Rally-Supercar-0-Hero.jpg

https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Xing-Miss-R-Electric-Rally-Supercar-1.jpg

https://cdn.hiconsumption.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Xing-Miss-R-Electric-Rally-Supercar-2.jpg


video
https://youtu.be/n6AJ8yhcCSk
Miss R on-road/off-road shakedown
]

For the most part, without heavy aftermarket upgrades, supercars are
typically road-only vehicles. And that’s fine, considering how much they
have to offer when putting rubber to pavement. For the folks at Xing,
however, that’s not quite good enough. And that’s why they took inspiration
from off-road rally cars when building their Miss R all-electric supercar.

Headquartered out of Taiwan, Xing looks to be taking aim directly at Tesla,
as the Miss R boasts an all-electric drivetrain capable of a whopping 1,341
horsepower — giving it a 0-62 time of 1.8 seconds, enough to knock your
teeth into the back of your skull. 

It’s also said to have a top speed approaching 168 mph. But the most
impressive part of this all-electric supercar is that it wasn’t made just
for on-road driving. Rather, it boasts an off-road suspension and tires that
allow it to take on terrain that would cause competitor vehicles to tremble
in defeat. And, as Xing is gearing this bad boy up for possible
competitions, they even made the battery packs hot-swappable in under five
minutes. 

Only 20 vehicles are to be made in their initial run at a price of $1
million each. Production is expected to start by the end of this year.
[© hiconsumption.com]


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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/uber-clean-air-tax-to-pay-for-greener-fleet-zb9rwmc8d
Uber to add pollution levy to fund electric cars
October 23 2018  Uber is to impose a 15p a mile “clean air” levy on
passengers in London from early next year and is considering rolling out
electric bike hire in the capital.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/imageserver/image/methode%2Ftimes%2Fprod%2Fweb%2Fbin%2F406ae152-d6d3-11e8-926d-96790161a92a.jpg?crop=2121%2C1193%2C0%2C110
...
https://www.inquisitr.com/5129017/uber-wants-all-of-its-drivers-in-london-to-use-electric-vehicles-by-2025/
Uber Wants All Of Its Drivers In London To Use Electric Vehicles By 2025
October 23, 2018  Uber has plans to promote an exclusively electric fleet of
vehicles for their drivers in London within the next decade. The company's
goal is an ambitious one, ...
https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Uber.jpg




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[EVDL] EVLN: Caterpillar's Fisker-investment> $100/kWh Solid-State Battery

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https://www.bizjournals.com/losangeles/news/2018/10/22/caterpillar-gets-in-electric-car-business-with.html
Caterpillar gets in electric-car business with Fisker investment
Oct 22, 2018  I-Chun 

[image]  Fisker Inc. is developing electric vehicles and proprietary
solid-state battery technologies

Electric vehicle startup Fisker Inc. has received strategic investment from
the venture capital arm of heavy machinery maker Caterpillar Inc.

Los Angeles-based Fisker didn’t provide financial terms of the deal but said
Caterpillar’s investment in Fisker “illustrates a mutually recognized
importance that electrification solutions will represent to multiple
business segments in the future.”

Peoria, Illinois-based Caterpillar (NYSE: CAT) is the world's leading
manufacturer of construction and mining equipment, diesel and natural gas
engines, industrial gas turbines and diesel-electric locomotives. Its
venture funding unit, Caterpillar Venture Capital Inc., has been focused on
investments in robotics, energy, advanced materials and digital
technologies.

“While Caterpillar and Fisker serve fundamentally different industries,
advancements in electrification technologies pose increasing importance and
offer the potential to positively impact customer value for the right
products,” Fisker said.

Fisker is aiming to make electric vehicles outfitted with the longest range
and shortest charging times among all EVs.

As part of that process, the company is developing solid-state batteries as
the “next generation post lithium-ion era of future battery technologies,
that offer bulk electrodes with high energy densities, enhanced safety,
faster charge times and lower costs.”

Fisker says its patent-pending Fisker Flexible Solid-State Battery costs
less than $100 per kWh.

Fisker was founded by automotive designer Henrik Fisker, who was behind
iconic autos such as the BMW Z8 and the Aston Martin DB9. Fisker’s first
electric vehicle venture ended in bankruptcy in 2013 after the $100,000
Fisker Karma experienced battery problems that led to the recall of more
than 600 Karmas. In addition, some Karmas burst into flames due to an issue
with an engine component. China’s Wanxiang Group later bought Fisker’s
assets and renamed the company Karma Automotive, based in Costa Mesa,
California.

In late 2016, Fisker launched a new electric car company, Fisker Inc., aimed
at taking on premium electric vehicle makers such as Tesla ...
[© bizjournals.com]


https://electrek.co/2018/10/22/fisker-secures-investment-caterpillar-solid-state-battery-technology/
Fisker secures investment from Caterpillar for its solid-state battery
technology
Oct. 22nd 2018  Earlier this year, the startup unveiled its new EMotion
all-electric vehicle with the ... Unlike the first Fisker electric car which
was dependent on a battery system ...


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https://www.constructionequipment.com/norwegians-develop-25-ton-electric-excavator
Norwegians Develop 25-ton Electric Excavator
We are pleased to have supplied the technology that has helped Pon Equipment
to meet demand from the construction industry ...




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[EVDL] EVfire: 48V Disney 1908-replica> (flood-damaged cell exploded)

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https://www.gloucestertimes.com/news/local_news/battery-fire-damages-disney-car/article_dff47a73-50a4-578a-8d3c-736f868e241d.html
Battery fire damages Disney car
Oct 25, 2018  Ray Lamont

An electric-powered car was damaged in a battery-related fire Thursday.

That may not sound like big news on the surface — except that the car, a
replica of a 1908 Scarlet, was used by the Walt Disney Company in films and
stage productions. It is expected to run again, its owners say.


Firefighters fielded a call at 4:27 p.m. Wednesday reporting a car fire at
Advanced Technologies auto repair at 23 Kondelin Road [map
https://goo.gl/maps/wJG8ki87ce92
], Gloucester Deputy Fire Chief Steve Aiello said. Once on the scene, they
found that the car had caught fire when owners were changing the vehicle's
complex batteries. One of the batteries apparently "shorted out," Aiello
said.

Lee Malo, who co-owns Advanced Technologies [atechtuning.com] with his wife,
Victoria, and who owns the classic car in partnership with Richard Benoit of
Salem, explained that the replica car's batteries are built into 16 modules,
and each "brick" includes 440 small batteries, he said.

"(The modules) run 24 volts each, so we were working with a 48-volt system,"
Malo said, "and one of them exploded."

Malo said the offending battery cell had likely been damaged in flooding
last year, and the "explosion" sent batteries sailing as much as 30 feet
into the air. But there were no injuries and firefighters put down the blaze
without incident.

Victoria Malo said that, while, the car's battery system and battery
compartment were damaged, other parts of the vehicle can be repaired. 


Lee Malo also said the replica — christened "Miss Daisy" and apparently
built in the 1970s — last ran when showcased in a Peabody Santa parade. But
he, too, anticipated he'll once again be will be driving Miss Daisy soon,
returning to presentations on area roadways in the near future.

"At first, we just bought it (from a collector) to have it here at the
shop," Lee Malo said, "but then we found we could do things with it."

Victoria Malo said the vehicle and its original served in a number of Disney
productions, including as a prop car for Disney musicals. The car also
served as a parade car representing Disney when the company joined in
community celebrations.

"The basic frame of the car is still intact," she said, "so it should be
OK."

Ray Lamont can be reached at 978-675-2705, or 
rlamont @gloucestertimes.com .
[© gloucestertimes.com]


https://www.gloucestertimes.com/battery-fire-damages-disney-car-co-owned-by-salem-man/article_7812af9a-39bd-57fd-bfd7-e9590c948291.html
Battery fire damages Disney car co-owned by Salem man
Oct 25, 2018 ... Battery fire damages Disney car co-owned by Salem man ...
we were working with a 48-volt system," Malo said, "and one of them
exploded." Malo said the offending battery cell had likely been damaged in
flooding last year, ... Lee Malo also said the replica — christened "Miss
Daisy" and apparently built in ...




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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The physics of slapping solar panels on cars

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

But no stick shift, so it fails the spec requirement.

- Mark

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> On Oct 29, 2018, at 2:31 PM, Lawrence Rhodes  
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> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:42:12 -0700
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> To: Lawrence Rhodes , Electric Vehicle
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> Yes, I saw the price, and the performance, and the stick shift. It looked 
> practical to me for that purpose (though out of my price range). You don?t 
> think the girls would think it?s cool?
> 
> C?mon dad. It would be a great birthday present. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> - Mark
> 
> The Tesla is faster.  A fraction of the money.  More practical.  The new 
> Tesla Roadster would destroy it in performance at a third the price.  It may 
> look "cool" but in reality it is just some gear heads electric wet dream.  
> Lawrence Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] Azure DMOC445 Programming

[Collin Kidder via EV]

Well, those files could be handy but they aren't quite what we need -
yet. Still missing is a firmware file to flash to the DMOC to make it
actually control a motor. There could have been multiple versions to
support different motor styles. But, at this point any firmware image
would be better than no firmware image. The files in the link you
provided are configuration files that you use to change settings once
you've got firmware installed. So, they are important but needed later
on in the process.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 12:25 PM neurocis  wrote:
>
> Try this link, hope it is what you are looking for?
>
> https://www.aeva.asn.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4406
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>  On Sun, 28 Oct 2018 18:07:03 -0700 Collin Kidder via EV 
>  wrote 
>
> If I'm remembering correctly they did lock the chip so you can't just
> read out the firmware from a working unit. If you could I would, I do
> have one. But, if someone happens to have firmware in an email then I
> can flash that firmware onto a board. I just don't have any DMOC445
> firmware files to flash.
>
> On Sun, Oct 28, 2018 at 4:59 PM AL SWACKHAMMER via EV  
> wrote:
> >
> > I had a DMOC445 in the Electric Auto Union. I remember Beth Silverman 
> > sending me the firmware on line. Is it possible to copy another DMOC445 
> > programing?
> >
> >
> > > On October 28, 2018 at 11:23 AM EVDL Administrator via EV 
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From what I could tell, Solectria/Azure tended to be somewhat proprietary.
> > > The Brusa inveters they sold in the early- to mid-1990s were pretty well
> > > documented, but more through Brusa than Solectria. Again, those were my
> > > impressions; others may have had different experiences.
> > >
> > > I got the distinct impression that with the UMOC and DMOC range, Solectria
> > > and Azure intentionally further limited what their users could learn and 
> > > do.
> > > IIRC they even passworded the inverters' computer interface, which wasn't
> > > done on the Brusa inverters. If you wanted your drive reconfigured, their
> > > answer was usually "ship it to us and we'll do it for you." For a fee, of
> > > course. But they sure did make nice AC drives.
> > >
> > > I see that Soliectria's (and I think Azure's) former marketing director,
> > > Karl E Thidemann, is on Linked In. It's an extremely long shot, but I
> > > wonder if he might be able to hook you up with one of their former 
> > > engineers
> > > or support techs. If you're a Linkie (I'm not), you might try getting in
> > > touch with him.
> > >
> > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/karl-thidemann-a971b853
> > >
> > > Also, Lee Hart may have current contact into for James Worden. Whether
> > > Worden would be able or willing to help, I don't know.
> > >
> > > Other than that you might scout around for a possible hacker (in the older
> > > positive sense) community, something like the one that grew up round the 
> > > old
> > > Dolphin drives used in US Electricar EVs. I don't know whether enough of
> > > the UMOC/DMOC units ever fell into hobbyist hands for that to happen. 
> > > Maybe
> > > you could try a post on the solectria_ev Yahoo group, if you haven't
> > > already.
> > >
> > > https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/solectria_ev
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> > > Good luck!
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Re: [EVDL] Disassembling a Nissan pack

[Jay Summet via EV]

I kept mine "lightly" compressed after I took them out of the pack 
during storage. (I just used the metal plates and rods/screws from the 
pack to do this...didn't measure exactly 1." each...but tightened 
things down.)


I *think* Cor is right...but it's not too hard to keep them compressed 
until you are ready to put them into the final pack.


Jay

On 10/28/18 11:49 PM, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:

Roger,
They are fine, provided they are not charged to the max. I have had packs
sit around for months as loose cells and I have almost 12,000 miles on them
after recompressing in a different configuration in my EV truck.
Cor.

On Sun, Oct 28, 2018, 7:01 PM Roger Daisley via EV 
wrote:


I am finally getting around to disassembling the Leaf pack I picked up this
summer.



I understand the cells need to be held compressed while
charging/discharging.



My question is: Do the cells removed from a pack and allowed to "sit
around"
need to be mounted and compressed?

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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: The physics of slapping solar panels on cars

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Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 11:42:12 -0700
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Yes, I saw the price, and the performance, and the stick shift. It looked 
practical to me for that purpose (though out of my price range). You don?t 
think the girls would think it?s cool?

C?mon dad. It would be a great birthday present. ;-)



- Mark
The Tesla is faster.  A fraction of the money.  More practical.  The new Tesla 
Roadster would destroy it in performance at a third the price.  It may look 
"cool" but in reality it is just some gear heads electric wet dream.  Lawrence 
Rhodes
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Re: [EVDL] Azure DMOC445 Programming

[neurocis via EV]

Try this link, hope it is what you are looking for? 
https://www.aeva.asn.au/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4406 Cheers!  On Sun, 28 Oct 
2018 18:07:03 -0700 Collin Kidder via EV  wrote  If I'm 
remembering correctly they did lock the chip so you can't just read out the 
firmware from a working unit. If you could I would, I do have one. But, if 
someone happens to have firmware in an email then I can flash that firmware 
onto a board. I just don't have any DMOC445 firmware files to flash. On Sun, 
Oct 28, 2018 at 4:59 PM AL SWACKHAMMER via EV  wrote: > > I 
had a DMOC445 in the Electric Auto Union. I remember Beth Silverman sending me 
the firmware on line. Is it possible to copy another DMOC445 programing? > > > 
> On October 28, 2018 at 11:23 AM EVDL Administrator via EV  
wrote: > > > > > > From what I could tell, Solectria/Azure tended to be 
somewhat proprietary. > > The Brusa inveters they sold in the early- to 
mid-1990s were pretty well > > documented, but more through Brusa than 
Solectria. Again, those were my > > impressions; others may have had different 
experiences. > > > > I got the distinct impression that with the UMOC and DMOC 
range, Solectria > > and Azure intentionally further limited what their users 
could learn and do. > > IIRC they even passworded the inverters' computer 
interface, which wasn't > > done on the Brusa inverters. If you wanted your 
drive reconfigured, their > > answer was usually "ship it to us and we'll do it 
for you." For a fee, of > > course. But they sure did make nice AC drives. > > 
> > I see that Soliectria's (and I think Azure's) former marketing director, > 
> Karl E Thidemann, is on Linked In. It's an extremely long shot, but I > > 
wonder if he might be able to hook you up with one of their former engineers > 
> or support techs. If you're a Linkie (I'm not), you might try getting in > > 
touch with him. > > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/karl-thidemann-a971b853 > > 
> > Also, Lee Hart may have current contact into for James Worden. Whether > > 
Worden would be able or willing to help, I don't know. > > > > Other than that 
you might scout around for a possible hacker (in the older > > positive sense) 
community, something like the one that grew up round the old > > Dolphin drives 
used in US Electricar EVs. I don't know whether enough of > > the UMOC/DMOC 
units ever fell into hobbyist hands for that to happen. Maybe > > you could try 
a post on the solectria_ev Yahoo group, if you haven't > > already. > > > > 
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Re: [EVDL] Automaker pitches (Call for nationwide U.S. EV Mandate) woo

[Mark Abramowitz via EV]

Hey chief, I didn’t say that. 

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 7:37 PM, Tom Hudson  wrote:
> 
> Tesla's not a major battery supplier?  You've got to be kidding, right?
> 
> Considering just the Model 3 (not S or X), so far Tesla has delivered over 
> 113,000 vehicles (per Bloomberg as of tonight), each with a ~80kWh battery 
> pack.  That's over 9 GIGAWATT HOURS of EV batteries ON THE ROAD now, just in 
> Model 3's.  Just who has done more than that?
> 
> -Tom
> 
>> On 10/27/2018 1:58 PM, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
>> I agree on everything except on the characterization of Tesla as preeminent 
>> battery supplier. What about BYD? Others?
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
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> -- 
> Thomas Hudson
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