Re: Everything List Survey
There have now been 26 responses. This will be the final time I collect the results to send out, so for now the poll can be considered closed. In summary: 65% of people believe who took the survey believe everything exists, with an equal percentage accepting mathematical realism. Slightly more, 73% believe in arithmetical realism, and 69% believe a digital computer can be conscious. 52% apparently believe Bruno's description of the physical word as an infinity of computations, while 32% believe it digital and computable, and 16% believing it to be continuous. 60% believe that the measure of OMs plays a role in what they experience. Regarding OMs, no one thought their next is randomly selected from among all OMs, as ASSA does, while 23% chose RSSA. 37% thought it was meaningless to consider a next OM, with 19% believing they are but a single OM without a next, and 15% believing they are all OMs. On this question 42% did not choose any of these options and chose other, making it the most popular choice. Regarding reality, 8% take a materialist view, not believing in the reality of consciousness, while 23% take the opposite approach and believing consciousness is all that reality is. 50% believe it is some combination and 19% believe it is something else (one saying he doesn't know, another sating combinations of tronnies, and another logico-mathematics). The question that had the highest level of agreement was the preference of the MWI to CI, at 81%, with 73% believing in some form of immortality. On consciousness: 96% believe they are conscious 88% believe other humans and intelligent enough aliens are conscious 80% believe dolphins, apes, and cats are conscious 77% believe dogs are conscious (who is the cat lover who thinks dogs are zombies?) 73% believe mice are conscious 61% believe shrimp, spiders, and ants are conscious 42% believe ant coolonies are conscious 38% believe thermostats are conscious 34% believe web-browsers are conscious (Is reading bits from a web server different from reading the temperature?) 30% believe rocks are conscious On time, 73% take a block time perspective, while 19% believe in presentism, and 8% in possibilism (past and present only exist). Was there anyone who believed everything exists, but not in block time? Thanks to everyone for your participation. Jason On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Torgny Tholerus tor...@dsv.su.se wrote: Stathis Papaioannou skrev: 2010/1/14 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com: Interesting so far: - people are about evenly divided on the question of whether computers can be conscious - no-one really knows what to make of OM's - more people believe cats are conscious than dogs Oh, and one person does not believe that they are conscious! Come on, who's the zombie? It's me. (The question on whether computers can be conscious, should have three alternatives: 1) Both computers and humans can be conscious. 2) Humans, but not computers can be conscious. 3) Neither humans nor computers can be conscious. (The alternative: Computers, but not humans can be conscious, is not needed...)) -- Torgny Tholerus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comeverything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. Title: FreeOnlineSurveys.com View Results Results for: Everything List Survey 1) I believe that everything exists.PercentageResponsesTrue 65.4%17False 34.6%9Total responses:262) I believe in mathematical realism. (All self-consistent mathematical objects are real)PercentageResponsesTrue 65.4%17False 34.6%9Total responses:263) I believe in arithmatical realism (At a minimum, the integers have their own objective reality)PercentageResponsesTrue 73.1%19False 26.9%7Total responses:264) I believe the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is preferable to the copenhagen interpretation.PercentageResponsesTrue 80.8%21False 19.2%5Total responses:265) I believe in quantum (or some other) form of immortality.PercentageResponsesTrue 73.1%19False 26.9%7Total responses:266) I believe reality includes:PercentageResponsesMathematical, Material, or Physical structures7.72Consciousness and thought23.16Some combination of both50.013Other19.25Total responses:267) I believe that with the right software a digital computer can be consciousPercentageResponsesTrue 69.2%18False 30.8%8Total responses:268) I believe my next observer moment PercentageResponsesis a meaningless concept, I am an eternal thought19.25is a meaningless concept
Re: Everything List Survey
Stathis Papaioannou skrev: 2010/1/14 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com: Interesting so far: - people are about evenly divided on the question of whether computers can be conscious - no-one really knows what to make of OM's - more people believe cats are conscious than dogs Oh, and one person does not believe that they are conscious! Come on, who's the zombie? It's me. (The question on whether computers can be conscious, should have three alternatives: 1) Both computers and humans can be conscious. 2) Humans, but not computers can be conscious. 3) Neither humans nor computers can be conscious. (The alternative: Computers, but not humans can be conscious, is not needed...)) -- Torgny Tholerus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Everything List Survey
All, I've created a basic survey regarding common topics of discussion on the everything list. I think the results would be quite interesting. It is available here: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=n32533346wr4fp0694426 If others come forward with a lot of suggestions for other questions, I could consolidate them into a more in-depth survey. Thanks, Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Everything List Survey
There have been 9 responses so far, I've attached a preview of the results to this e-mail. Unfortunately there does not seem to be a way to make the results publicly viewable. With this free service, the survey will remain live until 10 days pass or until there are 50 responses. Jason On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: All, I've created a basic survey regarding common topics of discussion on the everything list. I think the results would be quite interesting. It is available here: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/rendersurvey.asp?sid=n32533346wr4fp0694426 If others come forward with a lot of suggestions for other questions, I could consolidate them into a more in-depth survey. Thanks, Jason Title: FreeOnlineSurveys.com View Results Results for: Everything List Survey 1) I believe that everything exists.PercentageResponsesTrue 88.9%8False 11.1%1Total responses:92) I believe in mathematical realism. (All self-consistent mathematical objects are real)PercentageResponsesTrue 77.8%7False 22.2%2Total responses:93) I believe in arithmatical realism (At a minimum, the integers have their own objective reality)PercentageResponsesTrue 66.7%6False 33.3%3Total responses:94) I believe the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics is preferable to the copenhagen interpretation.PercentageResponsesTrue 77.8%7False 22.2%2Total responses:95) I believe in quantum (or some other) form of immortality.PercentageResponsesTrue 55.6%5False 44.4%4Total responses:96) I believe reality includes:PercentageResponsesMathematical, Material, or Physical structures11.11Consciousness and thought11.11Some combination of both55.65Other22.22Total responses:97) I believe that with the right software a digital computer can be consciousPercentageResponsesTrue 55.6%5False 44.4%4Total responses:98) I believe my next observer moment PercentageResponsesis a meaningless concept, I am an eternal thought22.22is a meaningless concept, I am all observer moments22.22is randomly selected from all extensions from my current one22.22is randomly selected from all observer moments0.00Other33.33Total responses:99) I believe the number of duplicate observer moments, or their measure, is meaningful to what I am experiencing nowPercentageResponsesTrue 44.4%4False 55.6%5Total responses:910) I believe the universe we find ourselves in currently PercentageResponsesis continuous and uncomputable12.51is digital and computable37.53is made up of an infinity of computations, and uncomputable50.04Total responses:811) I believe the following objects posess consciousness:PercentageResponsesMyself9.48Other human beings9.48Aliens of sufficient intelligence9.48Apes9.48Dolphins9.48Dogs8.27Cats9.48Mice7.16Shrimp5.95Spiders5.95Ants5.95Ant colonies3.53Thermostats3.53Web browsers2.42Rocks1.2112) Regarding time, I believe PercentageResponsesthat only the present is real22.22that only the past and present are real11.11that the past, present and future are real66.76Total responses:9 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Everything List Survey
2010/1/14 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com: Interesting so far: - people are about evenly divided on the question of whether computers can be conscious - no-one really knows what to make of OM's - more people believe cats are conscious than dogs Oh, and one person does not believe that they are conscious! Come on, who's the zombie? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
Re: Everything List Survey
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 4:14 PM, Jason Resch jasonre...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/14 Stathis Papaioannou stath...@gmail.com: Interesting so far: - people are about evenly divided on the question of whether computers can be conscious - no-one really knows what to make of OM's - more people believe cats are conscious than dogs Oh, and one person does not believe that they are conscious! Come on, who's the zombie? The main problem I had with the question is that consciousness isn't defined. So I took it to mean conscious like me and hence didn't choose anyone but 'me' 'others' and 'aliens' in the consciousness section. That said, I don't really believe there is an 'absolute' concsiousness; I think everything is as conscious as it is allowed to be by it's initial configuration. It just so happens that our configuration is higher than dogs, thus we appear more conscious. For this reason I also, obviously, answered that computers can become conscious (and that is to say, can be brought to our level; i.e. we invent ourselves). -- silky http://www.mirios.com.au/ http://island.mirios.com.au/t/rigby+random+20 redeposit = hyperlink colorlessness: fetishism. PATHFINDER? Disarmingly: BAPTISTERY nebulousl... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-l...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
