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I'd recommend "Particle Fever" although it might be old hat to some on this forum. Also "The Congress" based on "The Futurological Congress" by Stanislaw Lem, I would say is worth watching, although probably not to everyone's tastes. But probably to the tastes of most people on this forum! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Thank you, I will try to find a copy of "Dark City". -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at 7:07 AM, LizR wrote: > > [The Thirteenth Floor] Makes "The Matrix" look a bit passe. > I agree, it's a much deeper movie. > > we watched "Inception" a little while ago - it was quite nicely > structured but somehow lacking humanity, I thought. > Yes, I enjoyed Inception but not as much as I thought I would, it's not nearly as good as "The Thirteenth Floor" or Christopher Nolan's other movie "The Prestige". And if you liked those movies you'll probably like the 1998 movie "Dark City". John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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*!!! SPOILERS FOR THE MOVIE "THE 13TH FLOOR" AND SHORT STORY "THE TUNNEL
UNDER THE WORLD" BY FRED POHL !!!*
We have just watched "The Thirteenth Floor" :)
Wow!
...And I just discovered that the original book was written in *1964!*
Wow!!!
Thank you so much for recommending that, it was great.
(Of course when it ended I was thinking - "Just stay put. Don't ever go too
far from home!")
Makes "The Matrix" look a bit passe.
Surely that was the first description of a virtual reality as such? (As
opposed to a world that existed as some sort of psychic or supernatural
illusion, as in various stories by Lovecraft, Hodgson, H G Wells etc.)
("The Tunnel Under the World" by Frederick Pohl is earlier but in that the
people turn out to all be miniature robots.)
PS we watched "Inception" a little while ago - it was quite nicely
structured but somehow lacking humanity, I thought.
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This is why when someone asks me what I will be doing over the holidays I am tempted to reply that I will be going away, not going away, crowned Empress of the Universe, killed in a car crash, spontaneously combusting, being kidnapped by aliens, having a conversion experience, and many other things. But I don't, of course, even though physics tells me the above is true. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On 18 Jun 2014, at 02:19, chris peck wrote: >> That is logically impossible from the first person point of view. You describe the 3p view only. Nice straw man! Whats practically impossible is for one point of view to simultaneously accomodate the experience of both surviving and dieing. Yes; and that is why the first person discourses differentiates (assuming the n-iterated WM-duplication, and give the arbitrary histories, whose predictable one get negligible as n augments. No one questions that. Glad to hear that! You can move to step 4. However, that an individual could anticipate both surviving and drowning, and anticipate the certainty of both experiences in a duplication context doesn't even approach logical impossibilty. Exactly, in the 3-1 view. You talk about your (future) self from outside, gently assuming the 1p consciousness to both. That is useful to define the domain of the indeterminacy indeed, but is not related to the experience effectively lived by any experiencers resulting from the experiment. >> In the 3p pictures, yes. Not in the 1p views. Given the protocol given, you cannot from the first person view simultaneously drawn and not-drawn. There is no telepathy between the copies. The fact that copies have different experiences doesn't introduce doubt into the mind of the original about what he will experience. Without making precise which points of view you talk about, this is ambigous. In this instance, he will anticipate both. Sure, excellent strategy, given that he will live with certainty only one of that "both". He will not anticipate living both "at once" in the 1p view, even if he can bet he will be both at once, in God's eye. I think we agree so, what about step 4? Bruno he will have 1p nightmares about drowning and 1p dreams about the glory of the prestige. Alternatively, he will reject the idea that they are actual copies of him at the requisite substitution level and never conduct the illusion (he'll say no to the doctor). You cant have it both ways. In anycase, the movie is clear on the matter. It is the magician's macabre fate to know he will suffer drowning to ensure he can reap the glory. Its what makes him such a pitiful character. Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:08:24 +1200 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Seconded. One could I suppose put the posts in small faint letters to make them less noticeable, but I can't see any SPOILER tags on this forum! On 18 June 2014 03:28, Terren Suydam wrote: On behalf of the people who haven't actually seen the film, could people please put "Spoiler Alert" in the email before you give away crucial details to a movie? Many of the films mentioned in this thread I haven't seen. If I had read Chris's post before watching The Prestige I would have been pissed off. Thanks, Terren On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:20 AM, chris peck > wrote: >> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to meet them. Its not about the UDA. It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, he points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know precisely what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. Its not as if there could be any doubt about it. The set up makes both experiences certain. But its not really a flaw in script, because the audience sees it clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so obsessed with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its this that makes his story so horrifically tragic. Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > So we agree on this. Yes. > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that the Universal
RE: Films I think people on this forum might like
>> That is logically impossible from the first person point of view. You >> describe the 3p view only. Nice straw man! Whats practically impossible is for one point of view to simultaneously accomodate the experience of both surviving and dieing. No one questions that. However, that an individual could anticipate both surviving and drowning, and anticipate the certainty of both experiences in a duplication context doesn't even approach logical impossibilty. >> In the 3p pictures, yes. Not in the 1p views. Given the protocol given, you >> cannot from the first person view simultaneously drawn and not-drawn. There >> is no telepathy between the copies. The fact that copies have different experiences doesn't introduce doubt into the mind of the original about what he will experience. In this instance, he will anticipate both. he will have 1p nightmares about drowning and 1p dreams about the glory of the prestige. Alternatively, he will reject the idea that they are actual copies of him at the requisite substitution level and never conduct the illusion (he'll say no to the doctor). You cant have it both ways. In anycase, the movie is clear on the matter. It is the magician's macabre fate to know he will suffer drowning to ensure he can reap the glory. Its what makes him such a pitiful character. Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 12:08:24 +1200 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: lizj...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Seconded. One could I suppose put the posts in small faint letters to make them less noticeable, but I can't see any SPOILER tags on this forum! On 18 June 2014 03:28, Terren Suydam wrote: On behalf of the people who haven't actually seen the film, could people please put "Spoiler Alert" in the email before you give away crucial details to a movie? Many of the films mentioned in this thread I haven't seen. If I had read Chris's post before watching The Prestige I would have been pissed off. Thanks,Terren On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:20 AM, chris peck wrote: >> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to meet them. Its not about the UDA. It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, he points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know precisely what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. Its not as if there could be any doubt about it. The set up makes both experiences certain. But its not really a flaw in script, because the audience sees it clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so obsessed with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its this that makes his story so horrifically tragic. Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > So we agree on this. Yes. > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the things that it's saying that are true are not profound. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://gr
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Seconded. One could I suppose put the posts in small faint letters to make them less noticeable, but I can't see any SPOILER tags on this forum! On 18 June 2014 03:28, Terren Suydam wrote: > On behalf of the people who haven't actually seen the film, could people > please put "Spoiler Alert" in the email before you give away crucial > details to a movie? Many of the films mentioned in this thread I haven't > seen. If I had read Chris's post before watching The Prestige I would have > been pissed off. > > Thanks, > Terren > > > On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:20 AM, chris peck > wrote: > >> >> >> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA >> >> Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to >> meet them. Its not about the UDA. >> >> It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps >> duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. >> >> At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, >> he points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he >> doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in >> the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know >> precisely what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. >> Its not as if there could be any doubt about it. The set up makes both >> experiences certain. But its not really a flaw in script, because the >> audience sees it clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so >> obsessed with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell >> drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad >> enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty >> magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its >> this that makes his story so horrifically tragic. >> >> -- >> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 >> >> Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like >> From: johnkcl...@gmail.com >> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com >> >> >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. >> >> >> > So we agree on this. >> >> >> Yes. >> >> > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA >> >> >> I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is >> saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that >> the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the >> things that it's saying that are true are not profound. >> >> John K Clark >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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yeah, The Grand Budapest Hotel was a blast. Cinema for cinema's sake. Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:39:32 +0200 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: multiplecit...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Recently had fun with this in cinema, now out on DVD/Blueray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fg5iWmQjwk Not really for content, profound depths, ideological stance, substance, plot, and this kind of serious set of one dimensional attributes, but more for its general attitude to telling a story and how the film makes an audience feel after viewing. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Recently had fun with this in cinema, now out on DVD/Blueray: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Fg5iWmQjwk Not really for content, profound depths, ideological stance, substance, plot, and this kind of serious set of one dimensional attributes, but more for its general attitude to telling a story and how the film makes an audience feel after viewing. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On behalf of the people who haven't actually seen the film, could people please put "Spoiler Alert" in the email before you give away crucial details to a movie? Many of the films mentioned in this thread I haven't seen. If I had read Chris's post before watching The Prestige I would have been pissed off. Thanks, Terren On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 12:20 AM, chris peck wrote: > > >> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA > > Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to > meet them. Its not about the UDA. > > It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps > duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. > > At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, > he points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he > doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in > the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know > precisely what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. > Its not as if there could be any doubt about it. The set up makes both > experiences certain. But its not really a flaw in script, because the > audience sees it clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so > obsessed with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell > drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad > enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty > magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its > this that makes his story so horrifically tragic. > > ---------- > Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 > > Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like > From: johnkcl...@gmail.com > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > > > > So we agree on this. > > > Yes. > > > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA > > > I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is > saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that > the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the > things that it's saying that are true are not profound. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On 17 Jun 2014, at 06:20, chris peck wrote: >> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to meet them. Its not about the UDA. Of course, as it doesn't make the FPI explicitly, but it is a good introduction. It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, he points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know precisely what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. That is logically impossible from the first person point of view. You describe the 3p view only. Its not as if there could be any doubt about it. Yes, for the 3p description. No, for the 1p view. The set up makes both experiences certain. In the 3p pictures, yes. Not in the 1p views. Given the protocol given, you cannot from the first person view simultaneously drawn and not-drawn. There is no telepathy between the copies. Bruno But its not really a flaw in script, because the audience sees it clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so obsessed with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its this that makes his story so horrifically tragic. Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > So we agree on this. Yes. > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the things that it's saying that are true are not profound. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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The Groundhog Day may be also of interest for someone of you. The UDA run wild in this film where a local semi-robust loop in time forces the protagonist to do things like killing himself or mastering Rock & Roll piano. Can loops in time produce personal duplications? In this case we would have a teleportation machine and a time machine for the same price. The thesis of this interesting film is NO. But of course this must be possible according with "scence", because any naturalistic TOE theory must allow absolutely anything. 2014-06-17 6:20 GMT+02:00, chris peck : > >>> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA > > Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to > meet them. Its not about the UDA. > > It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps > duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. > > At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, he > points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he doesn't > know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in the vat. > ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know precisely > what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. Its not as > if there could be any doubt about it. The set up makes both experiences > certain. But its not really a flaw in script, because the audience sees it > clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so obsessed with > bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell drowning > himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad enough, losing > a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty magicians > sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its this that > makes his story so horrifically tragic. > > Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 > Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like > From: johnkcl...@gmail.com > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > >>> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > >> So we agree on this. > > Yes. > >> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA > > > I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is > saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that > the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the > things that it's saying that are true are not profound. > > > John K Clark > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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>> It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA Well The Prestige is a film about obsession and the lengths people go to meet them. Its not about the UDA. It does contain a teleport machine in it and the naughty magician keeps duplicating himself and killing off one of the duplicates. At one point, when arguing about what sacrifices he has made for his art, he points out that every night he is in a state of horror because he doesn't know whether he will end up at the back of the stage or drowning in the vat. ofcourse, he is just in a state of denial because he ought to know precisely what he will experience: survival to the prestige AND drowning. Its not as if there could be any doubt about it. The set up makes both experiences certain. But its not really a flaw in script, because the audience sees it clearly. Its why its such a macabre ending. Here is man so obsessed with bettering his rival that he reduces his life to a living hell drowning himself every night. The goody magician's sacrifices are bad enough, losing a finger, losing a wife, losing a brother. But the naughty magicians sacrifices are deliberate and knowing self annihilation and its this that makes his story so horrifically tragic. Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 13:53:15 -0400 Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like From: johnkcl...@gmail.com To: everything-list@googlegroups.com On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > So we agree on this. Yes. > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the things that it's saying that are true are not profound. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. > > > > So we agree on this. > Yes. > It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA > I see absolutely no contradiction between thinking that "The prestige" is saying something profound that rings true and thinking that the things that the Universal Dance Association says that are profound are not true and the things that it's saying that are true are not profound. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On 29 May 2014, at 15:57, Jason Resch wrote: On May 29, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 May 2014, at 17:20, Terren Suydam wrote: Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) I have already praised that movie on this list. I think it is the first with explicit instantaneous copying (≠ cloning), and the FPI is almost made clear, although still fewly exploited. I agree, it is (also) one of the best movie, with the (seemingly) lighter Korean "Hello Ghost" that I have seen since a long time. The prestige is what set me on the course that led me to this list. I will have to checkout hello ghost. You might find it on Youtube, but in my country it is no more accessible for reason of copyright. Don't expect any explicit comp like thought experiences like in prestige, nor simulation like in "simulacron 3" or "matrix", the metaphysics is deeper, and the whole movie seems to me to be an incredible allegory of the salvia experience. I like also the fact that it is in all appearance just a funny comedy, around the theme of death. Oh, I found it here: http://watch32.com/movies-online/hello-ghost-3066 Very good quality, but I think they will ask money, perhaps before the end of the movie. I hope not. You have to look at the movie twice, to really got the thing, also, may be. Bruno Jason Bruno Terren On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Martin Abramson > wrote: Yes, the 4 superstars performing and explaining some stunning illusions all done with brilliant fx. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote: you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least tangentially, and in a fictional manner). I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly serial in 1969...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/eve
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On May 29, 2014, at 2:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 28 May 2014, at 17:20, Terren Suydam wrote: Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) I have already praised that movie on this list. I think it is the first with explicit instantaneous copying (≠ cloning), and the FPI i s almost made clear, although still fewly exploited. I agree, it is (also) one of the best movie, with the (seemingly) lighter Korean "H ello Ghost" that I have seen since a long time. The prestige is what set me on the course that led me to this list. I will have to checkout hello ghost. Jason Bruno Terren On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Martin Abramson > wrote: Yes, the 4 superstars performing and explaining some stunning illusions all done with brilliant fx. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote: you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least tangentially, and in a fictional manner). I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly serial in 1969...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything- l...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@goog
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On 28 May 2014, at 18:40, John Clark wrote: On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Terren Suydam > wrote: > Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) If you like movies about stage magicians you'll like "Now you see me" and "The Illusionist", they're very good, but "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. So we agree on this. It makes even more mysterious your resistance to UDA step 3. Bruno John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On 28 May 2014, at 17:20, Terren Suydam wrote: Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) I have already praised that movie on this list. I think it is the first with explicit instantaneous copying (≠ cloning), and the FPI is almost made clear, although still fewly exploited. I agree, it is (also) one of the best movie, with the (seemingly) lighter Korean "Hello Ghost" that I have seen since a long time. Bruno Terren On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Martin Abramson > wrote: Yes, the 4 superstars performing and explaining some stunning illusions all done with brilliant fx. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote: you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least tangentially, and in a fictional manner). I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly serial in 1969...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Also, you should watch the entirety of "Jonathan Creek" (except perhaps for the last few episodes, in which the writer appears to have gone slightly off the rails unfortunately). But certainly the first few series' are well worth watching. It's like David Renwick's a (far more prolific) reincarnation of Clayton Rawson. On 29 May 2014 04:40, John Clark wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Terren Suydam > wrote: > > > Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The >> Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on >> this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) >> > > If you like movies about stage magicians you'll like "Now you see me" and > "The Illusionist", they're very good, but "The Prestige" may just be the > best movie in the last 15 years. > > John K Clark > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Terren Suydam wrote: > Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The > Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on > this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) > If you like movies about stage magicians you'll like "Now you see me" and "The Illusionist", they're very good, but "The Prestige" may just be the best movie in the last 15 years. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hugh Everett the 3rd, Bryce DeWitt, and John Archibald Wheeler, are mankind's' friends. (movie was loosely based on MWI) -Original Message- From: Terren Suydam To: everything-list Sent: Wed, May 28, 2014 11:20 am Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) Terren On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Martin Abramson wrote: Yes, the 4 superstars performing and explaining some stunning illusions all done with brilliant fx. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote: you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least tangentially, and in a fictional manner). I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly serial in 1969...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Just wanted to extend a hearty thanks to the list - just watched The Prestige last night. What a stunning movie - my mind is blown. If you're on this list and you haven't seen it, that's something you need to correct! :-) Terren On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Martin Abramson wrote: > Yes, the 4 superstars performing and explaining some stunning illusions > all done with brilliant fx. > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote: > >> you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? >> >> that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... >> >> >> On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: >> >>> How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: >>> One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least tangentially, and in a fictional manner). I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly serial in 1969...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
Yes, the 4 superstars performing and explaining some stunning illusions all done with brilliant fx. On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:41 AM, LizR wrote: > you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? > > that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... > > > On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: > >> How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: >> >>> One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". >>> >>> There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. >>> >>> To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might >>> appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least >>> tangentially, and in a fictional manner). >>> >>> I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. >>> >>> Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" >>> although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close >>> in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story >>> was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years >>> beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you >>> have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a >>> weekly serial in 1969...) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
you mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Now_You_See_Me_%28film%29 ? that was quite fun, a bit incredulity stretching... On 2 May 2014 01:14, Martin Abramson wrote: > How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: > >> One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". >> >> There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. >> >> To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might >> appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least >> tangentially, and in a fictional manner). >> >> I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. >> >> Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" >> although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close >> in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story >> was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years >> beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you >> have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a >> weekly serial in 1969...) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
How about: NOW YOU SEE ME ? On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > serial in 1969...) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
I also recommend the short story "Tonight the sky will fall" by Daniel F Galouye (in the collection "Space Opera" edited by Brian Aldiss) On 9 February 2014 13:47, LizR wrote: > Not sure if that's a recommendation or just a chance to "let off steam" > but anyway - thanks, I will try to get hold of that. > > > On 9 February 2014 13:34, freqflyer07281972 wrote: > >> I've been following this thread with some interest, waiting for one movie >> to be invariably mentioned among this crowd, and surprised that it hasn't >> been yet: "Waking Life" by Richard Linklater. >> >> Not only would members of this list like this movie, they would also be >> reminded of the different kinds of conversations that go on here. It could >> even be interpreted as a kind of visualization of the QIT. The only person >> on this list who might not like it is John Clarke, since it is filled with >> references to so many useless, deadbeat, unproductive and non-contributing >> philosophers and one of the many pre-occupations of the film is that >> utterly meaningless ASCII sequence/noise "free will" (blech, I threw up a >> bit in my mouth just typing those nine characters, that's how abhorrent and >> senseless the notion is). Also, it is a cartoon, and I'm pretty sure he >> would have stopped watching anything so stupid since Grade 6, or when he >> was 12, or something. And most importantly, it didn't win any awards and >> was not on anyone's top ten list, at least, not anyone who counts as having >> valuable opinions about quality movies. But for the rest of you, I strongly >> recommend you check it out! >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
Not sure if that's a recommendation or just a chance to "let off steam" but anyway - thanks, I will try to get hold of that. On 9 February 2014 13:34, freqflyer07281972 wrote: > I've been following this thread with some interest, waiting for one movie > to be invariably mentioned among this crowd, and surprised that it hasn't > been yet: "Waking Life" by Richard Linklater. > > Not only would members of this list like this movie, they would also be > reminded of the different kinds of conversations that go on here. It could > even be interpreted as a kind of visualization of the QIT. The only person > on this list who might not like it is John Clarke, since it is filled with > references to so many useless, deadbeat, unproductive and non-contributing > philosophers and one of the many pre-occupations of the film is that > utterly meaningless ASCII sequence/noise "free will" (blech, I threw up a > bit in my mouth just typing those nine characters, that's how abhorrent and > senseless the notion is). Also, it is a cartoon, and I'm pretty sure he > would have stopped watching anything so stupid since Grade 6, or when he > was 12, or something. And most importantly, it didn't win any awards and > was not on anyone's top ten list, at least, not anyone who counts as having > valuable opinions about quality movies. But for the rest of you, I strongly > recommend you check it out! > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
I've been following this thread with some interest, waiting for one movie to be invariably mentioned among this crowd, and surprised that it hasn't been yet: "Waking Life" by Richard Linklater. Not only would members of this list like this movie, they would also be reminded of the different kinds of conversations that go on here. It could even be interpreted as a kind of visualization of the QIT. The only person on this list who might not like it is John Clarke, since it is filled with references to so many useless, deadbeat, unproductive and non-contributing philosophers and one of the many pre-occupations of the film is that utterly meaningless ASCII sequence/noise "free will" (blech, I threw up a bit in my mouth just typing those nine characters, that's how abhorrent and senseless the notion is). Also, it is a cartoon, and I'm pretty sure he would have stopped watching anything so stupid since Grade 6, or when he was 12, or something. And most importantly, it didn't win any awards and was not on anyone's top ten list, at least, not anyone who counts as having valuable opinions about quality movies. But for the rest of you, I strongly recommend you check it out! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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"Seconds" (1966) is also worth a look. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
On Monday, February 3, 2014 4:45:47 PM UTC-5, Jason wrote: > > Liz, > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led > me to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" > and is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have seen. > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > I liked BSG, but don't think I ever finished the series. It got kind of soapy and long but I would revisit it. I liked Moon a lot. The old Lathe of Heaven I remember as cool. Recently I just watched Blade Runner for the first time since it came out - still impressive on Blue Ray and more philosophy of mind themes than I remembered. My cousin and her husband actually made a movie last year that has to do with time travel that I want to see but haven't yet: http://blog.dimensionsthemovie.com/ There's a recent one called Enter the Void which is not bad https://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Enter%20the%20Void/70118776?trkid=438403 Craig > > Jason > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR >wrote: > >> One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". >> >> There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. >> >> To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might >> appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least >> tangentially, and in a fictional manner). >> >> I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. >> >> Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" >> although the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close >> in some respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story >> was inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years >> beforehand if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you >> have to remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a >> weekly serial in 1969...) >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Films I think people on this forum might like
I saw Solaris many years ago. Also (I think) Mirror (?) Alphaville? "The Stepford Wives" was very good but I didn't have any idea what it was about, if you do of course it wouldn't have such a big impact. Similarly "The World's End" which I thought was just a comedy about a few friends... On 6 February 2014 03:10, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 05 Feb 2014, at 04:54, chris peck wrote: > > you guys should check out > > Dark City (has a platonic reality isn't really real thing going on) > Moon (has a memory/identity/AI thing going on) > > > That reminds me of "Total Recall". Which is not bad. > > > > Source Code (has a 'its just numbers being computed' thing going on) > > Tarkovsky's Solaris > > > > Ah! I re-saw this one recently (on youtube!) with a lot of pleasure. I > like it. > Like Kim I saw also "2001, Space Odyssey numerous times", when young. > > Bruno > > PS, I see a typo I made: the author of "SIMULCRON III" is Daniel Galouye, > (not Galouze!) > > > and Stalker are also pretty stunning if you can handle 10 minute shots of > dripping water and general Russian misery etc. > > happy viewing! > > :) > > > > > -- > From: marc...@ulb.ac.be > To: everything-list@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like > Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:25:00 +0100 > > > On 04 Feb 2014, at 08:33, LizR wrote: > > My son (15) has been trying to get us to watch Incaption for a while. Once > we get time... > > > > After "the prestige", that was rather disappointing, for me. > > My favorite movie is "the thirteenth floor", or the corresponding novel > "SIMULACRON III" (Daniel Galouze). > > According to some people, MATRIX is full of "allusion" to "conscience & > mécanisme" but I can't see it without falling asleep. I still don't know if > it is comp-correct, like simulacron III is. > Boring and not quite sexy, but I would have love it, I guess, if I was 12 > years old. > > Bruno > > > > > On 4 February 2014 20:19, Russell Standish wrote: > > Some more I can add that I enjoyed: > > Adjustment Bureau > Inception > Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). > > These are mainly virtual reality type movies. > > I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. > > Cheers > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: > > Liz, > > > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led > me > > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" > and > > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have > seen. > > > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > > > > Jason > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > > > > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > > > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > > > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > > > > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block > univese. > > > > > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" > although > > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in > some > > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years > beforehand > > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > > > serial in 1969...) > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Everything List" group. &
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On 05 Feb 2014, at 04:54, chris peck wrote: you guys should check out Dark City (has a platonic reality isn't really real thing going on) Moon (has a memory/identity/AI thing going on) That reminds me of "Total Recall". Which is not bad. Source Code (has a 'its just numbers being computed' thing going on) Tarkovsky's Solaris Ah! I re-saw this one recently (on youtube!) with a lot of pleasure. I like it. Like Kim I saw also "2001, Space Odyssey numerous times", when young. Bruno PS, I see a typo I made: the author of "SIMULCRON III" is Daniel Galouye, (not Galouze!) and Stalker are also pretty stunning if you can handle 10 minute shots of dripping water and general Russian misery etc. happy viewing! :) From: marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:25:00 +0100 On 04 Feb 2014, at 08:33, LizR wrote: My son (15) has been trying to get us to watch Incaption for a while. Once we get time... After "the prestige", that was rather disappointing, for me. My favorite movie is "the thirteenth floor", or the corresponding novel "SIMULACRON III" (Daniel Galouze). According to some people, MATRIX is full of "allusion" to "conscience & mécanisme" but I can't see it without falling asleep. I still don't know if it is comp-correct, like simulacron III is. Boring and not quite sexy, but I would have love it, I guess, if I was 12 years old. Bruno On 4 February 2014 20:19, Russell Standish wrote: Some more I can add that I enjoyed: Adjustment Bureau Inception Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). These are mainly virtual reality type movies. I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. Cheers On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: > Liz, > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led me > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" and > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have seen. > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > > Jason > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > > serial in 1969...) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything- list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, H
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On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 03:54:27AM +, chris peck wrote: > Source Code (has a 'its just numbers being computed' thing going on) > Actually more of a virtual reality thing, but I agree it was very well done. I'll add your other suggestions to my list. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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you guys should check out Dark City (has a platonic reality isn't really real thing going on) Moon (has a memory/identity/AI thing going on) Source Code (has a 'its just numbers being computed' thing going on) Tarkovsky's Solaris and Stalker are also pretty stunning if you can handle 10 minute shots of dripping water and general Russian misery etc. happy viewing! :) From: marc...@ulb.ac.be To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Films I think people on this forum might like Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:25:00 +0100 On 04 Feb 2014, at 08:33, LizR wrote:My son (15) has been trying to get us to watch Incaption for a while. Once we get time... After "the prestige", that was rather disappointing, for me. My favorite movie is "the thirteenth floor", or the corresponding novel "SIMULACRON III" (Daniel Galouze). According to some people, MATRIX is full of "allusion" to "conscience & mécanisme" but I can't see it without falling asleep. I still don't know if it is comp-correct, like simulacron III is. Boring and not quite sexy, but I would have love it, I guess, if I was 12 years old. Bruno On 4 February 2014 20:19, Russell Standish wrote: Some more I can add that I enjoyed: Adjustment Bureau Inception Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). These are mainly virtual reality type movies. I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. Cheers On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: > Liz, > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led me > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" and > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have seen. > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > > Jason > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > > serial in 1969...) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this
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On 04 Feb 2014, at 08:33, LizR wrote: My son (15) has been trying to get us to watch Incaption for a while. Once we get time... After "the prestige", that was rather disappointing, for me. My favorite movie is "the thirteenth floor", or the corresponding novel "SIMULACRON III" (Daniel Galouze). According to some people, MATRIX is full of "allusion" to "conscience & mécanisme" but I can't see it without falling asleep. I still don't know if it is comp-correct, like simulacron III is. Boring and not quite sexy, but I would have love it, I guess, if I was 12 years old. Bruno On 4 February 2014 20:19, Russell Standish wrote: Some more I can add that I enjoyed: Adjustment Bureau Inception Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). These are mainly virtual reality type movies. I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. Cheers On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: > Liz, > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led me > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" and > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have seen. > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > > Jason > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > > serial in 1969...) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything- list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com . > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. T
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Oops Inception (told you I don't even have time to check my typing :) On 4 February 2014 20:33, LizR wrote: > My son (15) has been trying to get us to watch Incaption for a while. Once > we get time... > > > On 4 February 2014 20:19, Russell Standish wrote: > >> Some more I can add that I enjoyed: >> >> Adjustment Bureau >> Inception >> Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). >> >> These are mainly virtual reality type movies. >> >> I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. >> >> Cheers >> >> On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: >> > Liz, >> > >> > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. >> > >> > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and >> led me >> > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" >> and >> > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first >> > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have >> seen. >> > >> > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined >> > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human >> > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. >> > >> > Jason >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: >> > >> > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". >> > > >> > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. >> > > >> > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might >> > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least >> > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). >> > > >> > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block >> univese. >> > > >> > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" >> although >> > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in >> some >> > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was >> > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years >> beforehand >> > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to >> > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly >> > > serial in 1969...) >> > > >> > > -- >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> > > "Everything List" group. >> > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an >> > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com >> . >> > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) >> Principal, High Performance Coders >> Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au >> University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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My son (15) has been trying to get us to watch Incaption for a while. Once we get time... On 4 February 2014 20:19, Russell Standish wrote: > Some more I can add that I enjoyed: > > Adjustment Bureau > Inception > Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). > > These are mainly virtual reality type movies. > > I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. > > Cheers > > On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: > > Liz, > > > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led > me > > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" > and > > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have > seen. > > > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > > > > Jason > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > > > > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > > > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > > > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > > > > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block > univese. > > > > > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" > although > > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in > some > > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years > beforehand > > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > > > serial in 1969...) > > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "Everything List" group. > > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > > > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Some more I can add that I enjoyed: Adjustment Bureau Inception Open Your Eyes (Spanish language, with subtitles). These are mainly virtual reality type movies. I'm going to add some of the others mentioned to my DVD service queue. Cheers On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 03:45:47PM -0600, Jason Resch wrote: > Liz, > > Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. > > The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led me > to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" and > is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first > realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have seen. > > Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined > "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human > consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. > > Jason > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > > > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > > serial in 1969...) > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Liz, Great recommendations, and excellent topic idea. The Prestige is the movie that got me interested in these topics and led me to this list. Also, for US viewers, Chronochrimes goes by "Timecrimes" and is available under netflix under that title. I found it to be the first realistic portrayal of single-universe time travel in any movie I have seen. Somewhat off-topic being a TV series, but the recently reimagined "Battlestar Galactica" probes many of the questions of machine vs. human consciousness. I recommend it to Craig. Jason On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 12:14 AM, LizR wrote: > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > serial in 1969...) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 7:01 PM, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: > >> > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > > A very good movie. > >> > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > > One of the best movies of all time. > >> > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block >> > univese. > > > I haven't seen that one, thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it. > >> > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" > > > I haven't read "October the First is Too Late" since I was a kid but liked > it a lot when I did. I would highly recommend "Colossus: The Forbin Project" > and "Forbidden Planet". Also, back in 1980 PBS did a production of Ursula K > Le Guin's novel "The Lathe of Heaven" that I thought was excellent , you can > get the DVD at Amazon for a few dollars. > I've heard a lot of good things > about "Primer" but I haven't seen it and the DVD cost a ridiculous $95. I highly recommend "Primer". If you are willing to put up with portuguese subtitles, you can watch it for free on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNfxDFbQY10 Telmo. > John K Clark > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Good suggestions. 12 Monkeys is also a good depiction of time travel in a block universe--and for a comedy take, the Bill & Ted movies fit together perfectly with block time as well! (as long as you take for granted that the historical figures they bring along never spoke publicly about their trips through time, and that the character who's trying to change history in the second one is just ignorant of how time travel really works) One that also might be of interest is a science fiction movie called "Mr. Nobody" that seems to blend together a number of ideas discussed on this list--the multiverse, the Gold universe where the arrow of time reverses when the universe contracts, and perhaps also the idea of reality as a simulation (the ending is kind of ambiguous). Of course there have also been a number of movies which revolve around the reality-as-simulation idea (The Matrix, The 13th Floor, eXistenZ) but one of the most interesting ones in terms of the ideas it plays around with is "World on a Wire" from 1973, made for German TV by the director Werner Fassbinder. Jesse On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might > appeal, but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least > tangentially, and in a fictional manner). > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand > if I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to > remember that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly > serial in 1969...) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Concerning "The Lathe of Heaven", make sure you see the 1980 version, the one made in 2002 wasn't nearly as good. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:14 AM, LizR wrote: > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > A very good movie. > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > One of the best movies of all time. > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > I haven't seen that one, thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it. > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" > I haven't read "October the First is Too Late" since I was a kid but liked it a lot when I did. I would highly recommend "Colossus: The Forbin Project" and "Forbidden Planet". Also, back in 1980 PBS did a production of Ursula K Le Guin's novel "The Lathe of Heaven" that I thought was excellent , you can get the DVD at Amazon for a few dollars. I've heard a lot of good things about "Primer" but I haven't seen it and the DVD cost a ridiculous $95. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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I think I may have seen '2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY' about 30 times by now. Actually, I can lie on a couch and simply play the entire film in my head - I don't even need to hire the disc! The music helps of course, because Kubrick's matching of great classical pieces to tech wizardry and the whole Sentinel/Monolith Ligeti 'Atmospheres' voice of this thing just blows my mind to smithereens. To actually suggest that the Engineer contacts us via a stone block that sings music is a concept that I rather find somewhat compelling But Arthur C Clarke probably gets equal credit... K On 3 Feb 2014, at 5:14 pm, LizR wrote: > One I've mentioned ad nauseum - "Memento". > > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. > > To avoid spoilers, I won't go into detail about why these films might appeal, > but they both address issues mentioned on this list (at least tangentially, > and in a fictional manner). > > I might also mention "Chronocrimes" for its portrayal of a block univese. > > Sadly no one seems to have filmed "October the First is Too Late" although > the 10-episode epic "Doctor Who" story "The War Games" comes close in some > respects. In fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if the Who story was > inspired by Hoyle's novel, which I think appeared about 3 years beforehand if > I remember correctly. I would semi-recommend this (but you have to remember > that it was made in black and white, for viewing as a weekly serial in > 1969...) > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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On 3 Feb 2014, at 5:14 pm, LizR wrote: > There is also "The Prestige", which I would definitely recommend. The Prestige is absolutely fantabuloso. Hugh Jackman - what can I say. You need an Aussie to carry it off, now don't you...Dave Bowie as Nikola Tesla - very schmick. The moment when Tesla duplicate/teleports Angier's hat in his machine and Angier, walks outside and, dismayed, sees a field full of hats and asks "Butwhich is mine?" To which Tesla replies, cool as ice "But my dear fellow, they are all yours!" I must confess that the hair stands up on the back of my neck when that happens. I cannot imagine a universe without good sci-fi although logically they must exist Kim Kim Jones B.Mus.GDTL Email: kimjo...@ozemail.com.au Mobile: 0450 963 719 Landline: 02 9389 4239 Web: http://www.eportfolio.kmjcommp.com "Never let your schooling get in the way of your education" - Mark Twain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Oh, and I should of course mention "The Pirates! Band of Misfits" from Aardman (makers of "Wallace and Gromit") which is the source of my new avatar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
