Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters

2002-12-16 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 16:03, Philippe Chartier a écrit :
 Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 15:30, Enver ALTIN a écrit :
  On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:17, Mark Lowes wrote:
   Am I missing something or is there no way of configuring 1.2 to use an
   external file for it's sig.  It appears to be import into the editor
   and save or script as the only options.
  
  Seems so :)
  
  Interestingly I never needed to add a new signature since I upgraded
  from 1.0.x but just noticed that the only way adding a file as a
  signature is copying/importing its contents to a new signature using the
  add button. BTW, I can live with this.
 
 I upgraded, too, from 1.0.x to 1.2 and was pleased to see the old
 signatures automatically imported. I really like the new signature
 system.
 
 But I've noticed a problem. If I edit a signature in the new signature
 editor, everything seems fine, but afterwards, in the preview signature
 pane and in a new message, all the accented characters are unreadable...
 
 Example :
 ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
 reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
 reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
 invariablement la même :...
 
 I suppose it's a character set thing. But how can I solve this? I have
 no idea...
 
 I use KDE, if that can help...
 
 Thanks in advance!

Hi,

I just want to say that the signature problem I mentioned in November
seems to be totally resolved with the new Evolution 1.2.1 upgrade.

I've noticed the change because, curiously, most of my previous
signatures disappeared after the upgrade! In the Tools Parameters,
all the signatures were there (and the files were intact in
~/evolution/signatures), but nothing showed up in the preview pane or in
the compose window.

I opened the ~/evolution/signatures files in a text editor. Copy-pasted
the content in the signature editor. And everything is fine now.

Many thanks!


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Re: [Evolution] Signatures and HTML

2002-11-19 Thread Not Zed
I think its basically because evolution's editor always processes mail
as html.  Its just easier that way, because you can represent any plain
text in html, but not the other way around.

You just have to wrap progs like fortune with a script that adds a pre
block.

On Tue, 2002-11-19 at 09:53, Greg Macek wrote:
 In search of trying to understand why text wasn't being properly wrapped
 from a script, I accidentally came upon an email saying that signatures
 need to be formatted as HTML. Can someone explain why it is that way?
 I've gotten it work, but when trying to take input from other programs
 in that script the text is not formatted properly. This was noted by
 using the fortune program. Some of its saying are preformatted but
 when they are used as part of the sig any line breaks are lost. Just
 curious. Look forward to understanding how the signatures work. Thanks.
 
 - Greg
 
 
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[Evolution] Signatures and HTML

2002-11-18 Thread Greg Macek
In search of trying to understand why text wasn't being properly wrapped
from a script, I accidentally came upon an email saying that signatures
need to be formatted as HTML. Can someone explain why it is that way?
I've gotten it work, but when trying to take input from other programs
in that script the text is not formatted properly. This was noted by
using the fortune program. Some of its saying are preformatted but
when they are used as part of the sig any line breaks are lost. Just
curious. Look forward to understanding how the signatures work. Thanks.

- Greg


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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-15 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 21:49, François Jan a écrit :
 ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
 reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
 reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
 invariablement la même :...
  
 Well, if you can see my signature well formed with the cedilla, I may
 help you
 
 I was in the same shit as you but was too lazy to have a look. Never
 mind, your mail got me on the way and I changed the file
 evolution/signatures/xxx with vi in order to read François instead of
 François and here I am.

I've resorted to a similar solution : I edit the files in
~/evolution/signatures/ with a text editor and the accents are OK when
the signature is included in the message.

I've notice something though. When I first tried to edit my signature
with Kedit 1.0.3, it was fine, but with gedit (2.0.2), I had the same
problem with accents. 

I looked at gedit's Preferences and changed the parameter for During
saving (sorry, I don't know the real title in English).

It was set to Use original file encoding if possible.

I changed it to Use current locale's encoding if possible. And it
worked!

My locale encoding is, I think, ISO-8859-1. The same as what is defined
in Evolution. Obviously, the Evo signature editor does not take into
account Evolution character encoding or the locale's encoding. Or takes
it from somewhere, but where?!

 By the way, I use ISO-8859-15 which is a lot better than latin1 (aka
 ISO-8859-1).

I'll try that!

Thanks!

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-15 Thread Alessio Bragadini
On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 16:50, Philippe Chartier wrote:

 ~/evolution/signatures/ with a text editor and the accents are OK when
 the signature is included in the message.
 
 I've notice something though. When I first tried to edit my signature
 with Kedit 1.0.3, it was fine, but with gedit (2.0.2), I had the same
 problem with accents. 

So: not a problem in the mailer but in the composer; the composer is
based on a Gnome component (I believe it's gtkhtml), and since gedit
uses the same component, it's a component problem rather than Evolution.
Agree?

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-15 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le ven 15/11/2002 à 16:03, Alessio Bragadini a écrit :
 On Fri, 2002-11-15 at 16:50, Philippe Chartier wrote:
 
  ~/evolution/signatures/ with a text editor and the accents are OK when
  the signature is included in the message.
  
  I've notice something though. When I first tried to edit my signature
  with Kedit 1.0.3, it was fine, but with gedit (2.0.2), I had the same
  problem with accents. 
 
 So: not a problem in the mailer but in the composer; the composer is
 based on a Gnome component (I believe it's gtkhtml), and since gedit
 uses the same component, it's a component problem rather than Evolution.
 Agree?

Euh... yes and no. It's possible to change Gedit Preferences (choosing
locale's encoding) to make it work. So the Gnome component works fine,
if it is configured right. It rather seems there is something missing in
the signature composer to make it choose the Evolution character
encoding or, at least, the locale's encoding. No?

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[Evolution] Signatures

2002-11-14 Thread Mark Lowes
Am I missing something or is there no way of configuring 1.2 to use an
external file for it's sig.  It appears to be import into the editor
and save or script as the only options.

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures

2002-11-14 Thread Enver ALTIN
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:17, Mark Lowes wrote:
 Am I missing something or is there no way of configuring 1.2 to use an
 external file for it's sig.  It appears to be import into the editor
 and save or script as the only options.

Seems so :)

Interestingly I never needed to add a new signature since I upgraded
from 1.0.x but just noticed that the only way adding a file as a
signature is copying/importing its contents to a new signature using the
add button. BTW, I can live with this.
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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters

2002-11-14 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 15:30, Enver ALTIN a écrit :
 On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:17, Mark Lowes wrote:
  Am I missing something or is there no way of configuring 1.2 to use an
  external file for it's sig.  It appears to be import into the editor
  and save or script as the only options.
 
 Seems so :)
 
 Interestingly I never needed to add a new signature since I upgraded
 from 1.0.x but just noticed that the only way adding a file as a
 signature is copying/importing its contents to a new signature using the
 add button. BTW, I can live with this.

I upgraded, too, from 1.0.x to 1.2 and was pleased to see the old
signatures automatically imported. I really like the new signature
system.

But I've noticed a problem. If I edit a signature in the new signature
editor, everything seems fine, but afterwards, in the preview signature
pane and in a new message, all the accented characters are unreadable...

Example :
... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
invariablement la même :...

I suppose it's a character set thing. But how can I solve this? I have
no idea...

I use KDE, if that can help...

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters

2002-11-14 Thread Enver ALTIN
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 17:03, Philippe Chartier wrote:
 But I've noticed a problem. If I edit a signature in the new signature
 editor, everything seems fine, but afterwards, in the preview signature
 pane and in a new message, all the accented characters are unreadable...

Got a problem like this, here.

Output from a script should be in HTML format. If it's not, it will
result in all output get concatenated into a single line.

You may wish to try converting your signature to HTML format and get
those characters as HTML entities.

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-14 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 16:03, Philippe Chartier a écrit :
 Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 15:30, Enver ALTIN a écrit :
  On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:17, Mark Lowes wrote:
   Am I missing something or is there no way of configuring 1.2 to use an
   external file for it's sig.  It appears to be import into the editor
   and save or script as the only options.
  
  Seems so :)
  
  Interestingly I never needed to add a new signature since I upgraded
  from 1.0.x but just noticed that the only way adding a file as a
  signature is copying/importing its contents to a new signature using the
  add button. BTW, I can live with this.
 
 I upgraded, too, from 1.0.x to 1.2 and was pleased to see the old
 signatures automatically imported. I really like the new signature
 system.
 
 But I've noticed a problem. If I edit a signature in the new signature
 editor, everything seems fine, but afterwards, in the preview signature
 pane and in a new message, all the accented characters are unreadable...
 
 Example :
 ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
 reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
 reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
 invariablement la même :...

It's very weird.

I've just received my message sent to the list.

If I look at my message, in the preview pane of Evolution main window,
the accented characters look fine!

But if I double-click on the message to open it in a separate window,
the accented characters are unreadable again! Same thing if I reply or
forward the message, the accented characters are transformed.

Any clue? Please help!

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters

2002-11-14 Thread Mertens Bram
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:03, Philippe Chartier wrote:
[snip]
 But I've noticed a problem. If I edit a signature in the new signature
 editor, everything seems fine, but afterwards, in the preview signature
 pane and in a new message, all the accented characters are unreadable...
[snip]
 I suppose it's a character set thing. But how can I solve this? I have
 no idea...
 
 I use KDE, if that can help...

I noticed this behaviour when saving vcards in Evo 1.0.8 sometimes names
than contain accented letters were changed to the same kind of
unreadable characters...
Now everything seems fine, but then again it didn't happen every time,
maybe I'm just lucky today...

Has the code for generating the filenames for vcards changed?

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-14 Thread Xavier Bestel
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 16:32, Philippe Chartier a écrit :
  Example :
  ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
  reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
  reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
  invariablement la même :...
 
 It's very weird.
 
 I've just received my message sent to the list.
 
 If I look at my message, in the preview pane of Evolution main window,
 the accented characters look fine!
 
 But if I double-click on the message to open it in a separate window,
 the accented characters are unreadable again! Same thing if I reply or
 forward the message, the accented characters are transformed.

Here it's wrong in both cases.


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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-14 Thread Cormac Long




Its your character coding.. when I view the message normally (in ISO-8859-1 Latin-1), they come up incorrectly.. but if I change the format to UTF-8, they display OK.

Normally, European charsets should view fine in Latin-1... you need to check where your source the characters and possibly reformat as Latin-1

 ... croient tre un dysfonctionnement de notre systme : elles
 reoivent le Bulletin aprs avoir tent de se dsabonner ou
 reoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problme est
 invariablement la mme :...












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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-14 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 17:51, Cormac Long a écrit :
 Its your character coding.. when I view the message normally (in
 ISO-8859-1 Latin-1), they come up incorrectly.. but if I change the
 format to UTF-8, they display OK.

Yes during my attempts to solve the problem, I temporarily switch to
UTF-8. Before, Evolution character set was ISO-8859-1. But there is no
mention of Latin-1.

 Normally, European charsets should view fine in Latin-1... you need to
 check where your source the characters and possibly reformat as
 Latin-1 

Thank you for your answer. But where should I check for Latin-1? In KDE
or GNome configuration?

There seems to be a conflict somewhere. But I don't know where to
look...

   ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
   reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
   reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
   invariablement la même :...


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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-14 Thread Jean-Marc V. Liotier
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 16:58, Xavier Bestel wrote:
 Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 16:32, Philippe Chartier a écrit :
   Example :
   ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
   reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
   reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
   invariablement la même :...
  
  It's very weird.

 [..]
 
 Here it's wrong in both cases.

Same here. Actually it seems that french users like me have a hard time
getting the accents right. I still have problems in Evolution and
Openoffice, and cut'n'paste sometimes produces suprising results with
various ways the accents can be coded, and accents in some file names in
Samba shares make reading the file impossible. Not that it keeps me from
working, but I have been trying to solve this for a long time and always
fail. Of course, this is off-topic here, but it probably shows that this
may be a problem that is not specific to Evolution but a broader system
configuration problem.




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Description: This is a digitally signed message part


Re: [Evolution] Signatures

2002-11-14 Thread Barry Grundy

--- Mark Lowes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am I missing something or is there no way of
 configuring 1.2 to use an
 external file for it's sig.  It appears to be
 import into the editor
 and save or script as the only options.

This is not a real answer... but how about selecting
Insert - Text File... or Insert - HTML File...
from the edit signatures window under composer
preferences?

Barry

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters (follow-up)

2002-11-14 Thread Philippe Chartier
Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 16:58, Xavier Bestel a écrit :
 Le jeu 14/11/2002 à 16:32, Philippe Chartier a écrit :
   Example :
   ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
   reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
   reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
   invariablement la même :...
  
  It's very weird.
  
  I've just received my message sent to the list.
  
  If I look at my message, in the preview pane of Evolution main window,
  the accented characters look fine!
  
  But if I double-click on the message to open it in a separate window,
  the accented characters are unreadable again! Same thing if I reply or
  forward the message, the accented characters are transformed.
 
 Here it's wrong in both cases.

Yes, for myself as well.

In the meantime, doing tests, I changed the character set in Evolution
Options to Unicode UTF-8. That might explain part of it.

But I reverted the character set to ISO-8859-1, and I still have the
same problem...

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures

2002-11-14 Thread Mark Lowes
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 17:56, Barry Grundy wrote:
 This is not a real answer... but how about selecting Insert - Text
 File... or Insert - HTML File... from the edit signatures window
 under composer preferences?

I prefer to have my sigs as separate files as I use the same sig for
usenet and for those times I'm using mutt over a slow link.  Pulling the
sigs into evolution in this manner results in me having to maintain
multiple copies :(

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures vs accented characters

2002-11-14 Thread Eric Lambart
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 07:03, Philippe Chartier wrote:

 But I've noticed a problem. If I edit a signature in the new signature
 editor, everything seems fine, but afterwards, in the preview signature
 pane and in a new message, all the accented characters are unreadable...
 
 Example :
 ... croient être un dysfonctionnement de notre système : elles
 reçoivent le Bulletin après avoir tenté de se désabonner ou
 reçoivent le Bulletin en double. La source du problème est
 invariablement la même :...
 I suppose it's a character set thing. But how can I solve this? I have
 no idea...

I had the same problem with extended characters... but I never
reported the bug (I am very bad!).  I think my solution was to edit the
text file in another editor (vim!), and then Evo can use it just fine
(see sig below).

BTW, the sig files created by Evo are stored in ~/evolution/signatures

HTH,
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Re: [Evolution] Signatures

2002-11-14 Thread Mark Lowes
On Thu, 2002-11-14 at 18:39, Philippe Chartier wrote:
 Even Evolution is storing the signatures in different places. 
 New signatures are kept in ~/evolution/signatures. But because I updated

Ahh *bing*

Quick and dirty fix for me is to create the sigs I need evo to have from
within the interface and then symlink those names to the signature files
I've got stored in my home directory.  Not pretty but it works.

 from 1.0.8, the old signatures associated to existing mail accounts are
 still pointing to my previous signature directory... So there is two
 places to keep track of. :-(

Yup things migrated ok initially for me but then evo-1.2 decided to play
silly buggers and refused to send email properly, the quickest solution
(I needed working email asap) was to zap the ~/evolution/ directory and
let it create a clean config (into which I copied my contacts back in).

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-11 Thread Mathy Vanvoorden
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 16:32, Radek Doulík wrote:
 On St, 2002-10-09 at 05:59, Mathy Vanvoorden wrote:
  Hi all,
  
  I've noticed that when I change my mail-account, and thus changing my
  signature, the signature moves up one line, until there are no more
  whitespaces available. I presume this is not as a result of my settings?
 
 I guess you use evolution 1.0.x. This bug should be fixed in 1.2 betas.

Using 1.1.2.99 snapshot from two days ago.

 
  It is very annoying because I don't like my signature glued to my text
  and I always forget to change accounts before starting to type :-) I
  would also like to be able to change the -- that appears above the
  signature. Any way to do this?
 
 These -- are a standard way to split signature from mail content. IIRC
 you could avoid this when you select HTML format when editing your
 signature in signature editor. I suggest you to keep -- though.

Don't really care about that --, just wanted to know if it was possible
to change it :-)

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-10 Thread Radek Doulík

On St, 2002-10-09 at 05:59, Mathy Vanvoorden wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I've noticed that when I change my mail-account, and thus changing my
 signature, the signature moves up one line, until there are no more
 whitespaces available. I presume this is not as a result of my settings?

I guess you use evolution 1.0.x. This bug should be fixed in 1.2 betas.

 It is very annoying because I don't like my signature glued to my text
 and I always forget to change accounts before starting to type :-) I
 would also like to be able to change the -- that appears above the
 signature. Any way to do this?

These -- are a standard way to split signature from mail content. IIRC
you could avoid this when you select HTML format when editing your
signature in signature editor. I suggest you to keep -- though.

Radek


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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-10 Thread Lonnie Borntreger

On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 09:32, Radek Doulík wrote:
 On St, 2002-10-09 at 05:59, Mathy Vanvoorden wrote:
  I've noticed that when I change my mail-account, and thus changing my
  signature, the signature moves up one line, until there are no more
  whitespaces available. I presume this is not as a result of my settings?
 
 I guess you use evolution 1.0.x. This bug should be fixed in 1.2 betas.

Evolution 1.1.2.99 - CVS from 10 hours ago still has the issue.


TTFN, 
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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-10 Thread Chief Gadgeteer

On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 08:32, Radek Doulík wrote:
 These -- are a standard way to split signature from mail content.

Someone with better memory than I can probably cite the RFC.  As I
remember it the specified way of indicating the beginning of a signature
is dash dash space.  Microsoft los^H^H^H end-users must take care that
their keyboard mapping does not break this.

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-10 Thread Guenter Heck

On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 15.50 Chief Gadgeteer wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 08:32, Radek Doulík wrote:
  These -- are a standard way to split signature from mail content.
 
 Someone with better memory than I can probably cite the RFC.  As I
 remember it the specified way of indicating the beginning of a signature
 is dash dash space.  Microsoft los^H^H^H end-users must take care that
 their keyboard mapping does not break this.

From RFC 2646:

4.3. Usenet Signature Convention

There is a convention in Usenet news of using --  as the separator
line between the body and the signature of a message.  When
generating a Format=Flowed message containing a Usenet-style
separator before the signature, the separator line is sent as-is.
This is a special case; an (optionally quoted) line consisting of

From RFC 1855 Netiquette Guidelines:

If you include a signature keep it short. Rule of thumb is no longer
than 4 lines. (The --  beginning marker is not counted as one of the
four lines.) Likewise A Primer on How to Work With the Usenet Community
states Don't Overdo Signatures. [Underlining is mine.] Furthermore, on
the technical level some programs and ISPs automatically limit the
signature length to the said four lines.
Many modern email and newsreader programs automatically identify the
start of the signature part of a message from the --  token. (Note:
dash, dash, space.) This is a programs related convention.
 
 
-- 
Guenter Heck


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[Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-09 Thread Mathy Vanvoorden

Hi all,

I've noticed that when I change my mail-account, and thus changing my
signature, the signature moves up one line, until there are no more
whitespaces available. I presume this is not as a result of my settings?
It is very annoying because I don't like my signature glued to my text
and I always forget to change accounts before starting to type :-) I
would also like to be able to change the -- that appears above the
signature. Any way to do this?

-- 

Regards,
Mathy Vanvoorden


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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-09 Thread Tony Earnshaw

ons, 2002-10-09 kl. 11:59 skrev Mathy Vanvoorden:

 I've noticed that when I change my mail-account, and thus changing my
 signature, the signature moves up one line, until there are no more
 whitespaces available. I presume this is not as a result of my settings?
 It is very annoying because I don't like my signature glued to my text
 and I always forget to change accounts before starting to type :-) I
 would also like to be able to change the -- that appears above the
 signature. Any way to do this?

Surely it's not too much trouble to hit ENTER twice at the end of a
message? That's what I do :-)

I can see where you're at, you want Regards to come under the two
dashes.

I normally use Best. But sometime I personally want Groet, sometimes
I want Vriendelijke groet, sometimes I want Met groet, sometimes I
want Vennlig hilsen, sometimes I want Hilsen, sometimes I want
Helsing, occasionally Saluts.

Sometimes I'm Tony, sometimes I'm Tonni, sometimes I'm T'en to
special friends.

Using a different acount for each of these combos would bring me up to
8^3 different accounts. Seems rather exaggerated.

Best,

Tony

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normal person of life's lies, at the same time you'll be robbing
him of his happiness.

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures whitespaces

2002-10-09 Thread Mathy Vanvoorden

On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 13:29, Tony Earnshaw wrote:

 Surely it's not too much trouble to hit ENTER twice at the end of a
 message? That's what I do :-)

Of course it isn't too much trouble, but I consider it to be a bug.
People wouldn't appreciate it either if a line went missing when
printing a document, or saving it to harddisk now would they?

 
 I can see where you're at, you want Regards to come under the two
 dashes.
 
 I normally use Best. But sometime I personally want Groet, sometimes
 I want Vriendelijke groet, sometimes I want Met groet, sometimes I
 want Vennlig hilsen, sometimes I want Hilsen, sometimes I want
 Helsing, occasionally Saluts
 
 Sometimes I'm Tony, sometimes I'm Tonni, sometimes I'm T'en to
 special friends.
 
 Using a different acount for each of these combos would bring me up to
 8^3 different accounts. Seems rather exaggerated.

I don't use different accounts for different signatures. It's just that
I have so much accounts. I'm subscribed to a lot of mailinglists and
they don't all arrive at the same address. So I need to change account
for being able to mail to that list. In fact, I just use two different
signature files. One in Dutch and one in English...

-- 

Regards,
Mathy Vanvoorden


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[Evolution] Signatures in reply/forward

2002-09-22 Thread Ted Pibil

Is there a way to place the signature above the quoted message in a
reply?  Likewise with an inline forwarded message.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: [Evolution] Signatures in reply/forward

2002-09-22 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

No, and this has been requested before but will likely never be
implemented as most mail client software has been written to expect
signatures at the END of messages so that they may strip off the
signature when replying. It is also a standard that it be at the end.

Jeff

On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 15:57, Ted Pibil wrote:
 Is there a way to place the signature above the quoted message in a
 reply?  Likewise with an inline forwarded message.
 
 Thank you in advance.
 
 Ted Pibil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] Signatures in reply/forward

2002-09-22 Thread Rev. wRy

On Sun, 2002-09-22 at 15:09, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote:
 No, and this has been requested before but will likely never be
 implemented as most mail client software has been written to expect
 signatures at the END of messages so that they may strip off the
 signature when replying. It is also a standard that it be at the end.
 
 Jeff

Thank you.  Please do *NOT* change that.

Ry


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[Evolution] Signatures in Evolution

2002-08-09 Thread Carlos 'Fjrb' Almeida

 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.1.0.99 (Preview Release)

snip

 even after this it's pretty big. Of course, on my machine with all my
 folders open, evolution-mail takes up ~75M. *That's* big :-)
 
 Jeff
 
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 Evolution Hacker - Ximian, Inc.
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I gather from this that Evolution 1.1.0 will already have signature
support ? :)


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Re: [Evolution] signatures again

2002-07-21 Thread Not Zed


The signature option is on the editor, its pretty hard to miss.


On Sun, 2002-07-21 at 16:08, Rob Brown-Bayliss wrote:
 Hi, useing teh 1.1.x snapshots evolution is makking up it's own
 signatures as seen below, my .signature file is:
 
 -- 
 
 *
 *  Rob Brown-Bayliss
 *
 
 Also, the preferences scrolling menu thingy (not quite the shortcut bar)
 is sometimes grabbing all mouse input, so that I cant close teh window
 or actiavate any others...  I have to go to one of  the virtual text
 terminals and killev.  Mostly (allways?) it seems to be when I have
 tried to edit teh summary prefs...

Wow, your summary prefs work!?

 
 And now for evo's interpretation... 
 
 -- 
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 zoism.org
 
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Re: [Evolution] Signatures?

2002-07-03 Thread Philippe Chartier

Le mar 02/07/2002 à 20:26, Ben FrantzDale a écrit :
 On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 13:41, Langsley T Russell wrote:
  Hi all.
  
  I'm new to the list, new to Evolution, and new to Linux.
  
  When I was using Windows and Outlook express there was a method of
  adding preformatted signatures to an email. I could simply click on an
  icon and select which signature I wanted to use. I value this feature
  quite highly as I use a number of different signatures depending on
  whether I'm signing a professional correspondence, an email to a mailing
  list I'm a member of, a mailing list I host, etc. Is there some way to
  create a multiple signature file and have it readily available to insert
  a signature. 
  
  It would be handy if other blocks of text (things like URLS with brief
  descriptions) could be made similarly available.
  
  Is there any way I can conveniently do these things using Evolution as
  my e-mail client?
  
 
 I don't think there's a good way to do this at the moment. You can
 select a sig file for each mail account you have, though. Thus one way
 to do what you want would be to make several mail acocunts, only one of
 them setup for incoming mail, and each with a different sig. You could
 then select the account you wanted to use from the dropdown From:
 menu.
 
 Again, this isn't perfect.
 
 --Ben

I had the same problem about signatures and this is the solution I found
as well.

It takes some time to configure the multiple accounts but when it's
done, it works quite well.

 I forget if this is doable in 1.0.x, but the development versions
 (1.1.x) can.
 
 Jeff

But I'm happy to know a better solution will be available in 1.1. It
seems to integrate a lot of good things. Can't wait to see it in action!

Ciao.

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[Evolution] Signatures?

2002-07-02 Thread Langsley T Russell

Hi all.

I'm new to the list, new to Evolution, and new to Linux.

When I was using Windows and Outlook express there was a method of
adding preformatted signatures to an email. I could simply click on an
icon and select which signature I wanted to use. I value this feature
quite highly as I use a number of different signatures depending on
whether I'm signing a professional correspondence, an email to a mailing
list I'm a member of, a mailing list I host, etc. Is there some way to
create a multiple signature file and have it readily available to insert
a signature. 

It would be handy if other blocks of text (things like URLS with brief
descriptions) could be made similarly available.

Is there any way I can conveniently do these things using Evolution as
my e-mail client?

TIA,
Langsley T Russell





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Re: [Evolution] Signatures?

2002-07-02 Thread Jeffrey Stedfast

I forget if this is doable in 1.0.x, but the development versions
(1.1.x) can.

Jeff

On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 13:41, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I'm new to the list, new to Evolution, and new to Linux.
 
 When I was using Windows and Outlook express there was a method of
 adding preformatted signatures to an email. I could simply click on an
 icon and select which signature I wanted to use. I value this feature
 quite highly as I use a number of different signatures depending on
 whether I'm signing a professional correspondence, an email to a mailing
 list I'm a member of, a mailing list I host, etc. Is there some way to
 create a multiple signature file and have it readily available to insert
 a signature. 
 
 It would be handy if other blocks of text (things like URLS with brief
 descriptions) could be made similarly available.
 
 Is there any way I can conveniently do these things using Evolution as
 my e-mail client?
 
 TIA,
 Langsley T Russell
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Evolution] Signatures?

2002-07-02 Thread Ben FrantzDale

On Tue, 2002-07-02 at 13:41, Langsley T Russell wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 I'm new to the list, new to Evolution, and new to Linux.
 
 When I was using Windows and Outlook express there was a method of
 adding preformatted signatures to an email. I could simply click on an
 icon and select which signature I wanted to use. I value this feature
 quite highly as I use a number of different signatures depending on
 whether I'm signing a professional correspondence, an email to a mailing
 list I'm a member of, a mailing list I host, etc. Is there some way to
 create a multiple signature file and have it readily available to insert
 a signature. 
 
 It would be handy if other blocks of text (things like URLS with brief
 descriptions) could be made similarly available.
 
 Is there any way I can conveniently do these things using Evolution as
 my e-mail client?
 

I don't think there's a good way to do this at the moment. You can
select a sig file for each mail account you have, though. Thus one way
to do what you want would be to make several mail acocunts, only one of
them setup for incoming mail, and each with a different sig. You could
then select the account you wanted to use from the dropdown From:
menu.

Again, this isn't perfect.

--Ben



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