[Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been
noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens
while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often
when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line.

At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or
because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made
no difference.

Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this
before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Daniel Gryniewicz

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been
 noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens
 while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often
 when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line.
 
 At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or
 because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made
 no difference.
 
 Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this
 before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7.
 

This could be a kernel issue.  There have been reports of I/O freezes
under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels.  Some of these are reported as fixed in
2.6.22 kernels.  I've seen this too, but only when something else on the
box is using a lot of I/O.

Daniel

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Re: [Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been
  noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens
  while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often
  when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line.
  
  At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or
  because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made
  no difference.
  
  Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this
  before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7.
  
 
 This could be a kernel issue.  There have been reports of I/O freezes
 under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels.  Some of these are reported as fixed in
 2.6.22 kernels.  I've seen this too, but only when something else on the
 box is using a lot of I/O.

I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo.
The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again
it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a
different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up
again and I can continue until the next freeze.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Brian L Scipioni
The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do
with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been
happening to me recently.  I'll be typing away in a new message and all
of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes.  Then after a
long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out.  While
in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint.  If I drag it around
a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will
crash.  

I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252,
but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600.  They have
identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3
and the same other packages loaded.

The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP
client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client.  That makes sense,
because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are
associated with I/O.

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On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
   I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been
   noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens
   while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often
   when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line.
   
   At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or
   because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made
   no difference.
   
   Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this
   before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7.
   
  
  This could be a kernel issue.  There have been reports of I/O freezes
  under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels.  Some of these are reported as fixed in
  2.6.22 kernels.  I've seen this too, but only when something else on the
  box is using a lot of I/O.
 
 I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo.
 The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again
 it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a
 different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up
 again and I can continue until the next freeze.
 
 poc
 
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Re: [Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Reid Thompson

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:16 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote:
 The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do
 with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been
 happening to me recently.  I'll be typing away in a new message and all
 of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes.  Then after a
 long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out.  While
 in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint.  If I drag it around
 a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will
 crash.  
 
 I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252,
 but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600.  They have
 identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3
 and the same other packages loaded.
 
 The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP
 client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client.  That makes sense,
 because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are
 associated with I/O.
 
 -- 
 Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
   On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been
noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens
while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often
when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line.

At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or
because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made
no difference.

Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this
before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7.

   
   This could be a kernel issue.  There have been reports of I/O freezes
   under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels.  Some of these are reported as fixed in
   2.6.22 kernels.  I've seen this too, but only when something else on the
   box is using a lot of I/O.
  
  I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo.
  The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again
  it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a
  different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up
  again and I can continue until the next freeze.
  
  poc
  
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I've seen this behavior also ( freezing while composing ) - although
i've not correlated it with switching folders nor have I noticed the
Storing ... string ( but I've not specifically watched for said string
when it happens ) -- NOTE:  composing just paused while typing in this
email -- status line text changed too quickly for me to determine what
it was stating.

It seems to be occurring around freeze/thaw of folders
If you start composing a message and vary holding down random keys you
can see the input pause...

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: ~$ uname -a
Linux jhereg 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Jun 7 20:19:32 UTC 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

single core cpu 

UBUNTU 7.04
I have two accounts configured -- 1 pop account and 1 MS Exchange account.
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Re: [Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Craig Hastings
On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:34 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote:

 On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:16 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote:
  The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do
  with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been
  happening to me recently.  I'll be typing away in a new message and all
  of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes.  Then after a
  long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out.  While
  in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint.  If I drag it around
  a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will
  crash.  
  
  I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252,
  but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600.  They have
  identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3
  and the same other packages loaded.
  
  The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP
  client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client.  That makes sense,
  because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are
  associated with I/O.


I am running Intel Core2Due 1.6  FC7  and 2.11.4 however it was
happening to me on FC6 as well for some time now.  I've just been living
with it.

What happens in my case is I get the Freeze and sometimes in comes back
and sometimes it Passes Out  window greys out.  I have to force quiet
the application then restart it usually that works ok.   I am using IMAP
with all of my email accounts except one where I am using exchange.

Occasionally I get this cycle where it passes out almost right away.  I
have to use the kill command and kill the evolution-data-server-1.12
evolution-exchange-storage  evolution-alarm-notify   and the client if
its running or hung and restart evolution,  then it starts up fast and
everything is cool until it happens again.   

One thing I noticed by fluke,  if I set both CPU's to 798 or just turn
off on demand CPU the passing out happens less if at all.





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Re: [Evolution] UI freezing

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
This seems to be exactly the behaviour I've seen, though I couldn't
swear to the crash part as I tend to go off and do something else when
the freeze happens. However my machine is a Core2Duo and nearly all my
mail is on an IMAP server. F7, kernel kernel-2.6.22.1-41.fc7, Evo
2.10.3, Gnome 2.18.

poc

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 15:16 -0400, Brian L Scipioni wrote:
 The problem I reported earlier about deadlocking etc., had nothing to do
 with freezing - but that also is a new phenomenon that has only been
 happening to me recently.  I'll be typing away in a new message and all
 of a sudden no more characters and Everything freezes.  Then after a
 long time (15 seconds or so) all my buffered characters spit out.  While
 in a freeze, the window will move but not repaint.  If I drag it around
 a lot while it is frozen (trying to wake it up I suppose :-)), it will
 crash.  
 
 I've only seen this on my primary home computer, a dual AMD Opteron 252,
 but never on my work computer, a Intel core2duo E6600.  They have
 identical software: FC6 with the 2.6.20-1.2962.fc6 kernel and Evo 2.8.3
 and the same other packages loaded.
 
 The only software difference is at work I exclusively use an IMAP
 client, while at home I primarily use a POP3 client.  That makes sense,
 because I have a sneaking suspicion these locks and freezes are
 associated with I/O.
 
 -- 
 Brian L Scipioni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 13:06 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 10:48 -0400, Daniel Gryniewicz wrote:
   On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 07:18 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
I'm pretty sure this didn't used to happen, but recently I've been
noticing the UI freezing for a few seconds quite regularly. It happens
while I'm composing a message, and also if I switch IMAP folders, often
when the Storing ... string appears on the lower edge status line.

At first I thought it could be because my Drafts folder is remote, or
because I use a slow LDAP server, but turning off both these things made
no difference.

Is there a problem with multi-threading or did I just not ntoice this
before? I'm currently on 2.10.3 under Fedora 7 with KDE 3.5.7.

   
   This could be a kernel issue.  There have been reports of I/O freezes
   under 2.6.20 and 2.6.21 kernels.  Some of these are reported as fixed in
   2.6.22 kernels.  I've seen this too, but only when something else on the
   box is using a lot of I/O.
  
  I'm using the 2.6.22 kernel. Also, I haven't seen this except in Evo.
  The UI freezes completely e.g. if I bury the window and raise it again
  it won't even refresh, but I can switch to a different app or even a
  different desktop and everything else works. Eventually Evo wakes up
  again and I can continue until the next freeze.
  
  poc
  
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Re: [Evolution] junk mail filter

2007-08-07 Thread carpetnailz
On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 03:12 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 08:10 -0400, carpetnailz wrote:
  I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 with Ubuntu Feisty. 
  
  I'm getting several junk emails a day that all look similar to me (e.g.,
  they all have some random name in the to field with my email address
  in angle brackets). Yet the junk filter is not catching them.
  
  Under Edit-Preferences-Mail Preferences-Junk, I have Check incoming
  mail for junk checked. Should I also have Include remote tests
  checked? What exactly does that add to the process? 
  
  Is there anything else I should do, or have these jerks just figured a
  good way around the Evolution junk mail filter?
 
 For junk filter to work, you need to train both SPAM and HAM. Probably
 you missed it.
 
  
  Thanks.
  
  nails
  
I'm confused. First, my old computer running Evolution 2.2.2 and FC3
seems to just handle junk on its own without either Spamassassin or
Bogofilter installed or any other junk plugin. When I mark something as
junk on that system, I see a message at the bottom that says Learning
junk. I don't get that with my current setup, Evolution 2.10.1 and
Ubuntu Feisty. 
   Second, I've installed Spamassassin, but it doesn't seem to be doing
anything. Under Plugin manager I have spamassassin checked and
bogofilter unchecked.

I didn't do any training of anything called Spam and Ham in my old
system. How do I do that? 

thanks.


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Re: [Evolution] junk mail filter

2007-08-07 Thread Reid Thompson
carpetnailz wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 03:12 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
 On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 08:10 -0400, carpetnailz wrote:
 I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 with Ubuntu Feisty. 

 I'm getting several junk emails a day that all look similar to me (e.g.,
 they all have some random name in the to field with my email address
 in angle brackets). Yet the junk filter is not catching them.

 Under Edit-Preferences-Mail Preferences-Junk, I have Check incoming
 mail for junk checked. Should I also have Include remote tests
 checked? What exactly does that add to the process? 

 Is there anything else I should do, or have these jerks just figured a
 good way around the Evolution junk mail filter?
 For junk filter to work, you need to train both SPAM and HAM. Probably
 you missed it.

 Thanks.

 nails

 I'm confused. First, my old computer running Evolution 2.2.2 and FC3
 seems to just handle junk on its own without either Spamassassin or
 Bogofilter installed or any other junk plugin. When I mark something as
 junk on that system, I see a message at the bottom that says Learning
 junk. I don't get that with my current setup, Evolution 2.10.1 and
 Ubuntu Feisty. 
Second, I've installed Spamassassin, but it doesn't seem to be doing
 anything. Under Plugin manager I have spamassassin checked and
 bogofilter unchecked.
 
 I didn't do any training of anything called Spam and Ham in my old
 system. How do I do that? 
 
Not sure how you do it for Spamassassin, but for bogofilter see 
http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/faq.shtml#training

I imagine Spamassassin has something similar
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Re: [Evolution] junk mail filter

2007-08-07 Thread carpetnailz
My Bad. I did not have Show status bar checked. I do get a Learning
Junk message there. So I suppose things are working and the junk I'm
getting is just too diverse for the spam filter to have learned enough
yet.

Sorry for the confusion.

On Tue, 2007-08-07 at 18:42 -0400, carpetnailz wrote:
 On Mon, 2007-07-30 at 03:12 -0600, Sankar P wrote:
  On Sun, 2007-07-29 at 08:10 -0400, carpetnailz wrote:
   I'm using Evolution 2.10.1 with Ubuntu Feisty. 
   
   I'm getting several junk emails a day that all look similar to me (e.g.,
   they all have some random name in the to field with my email address
   in angle brackets). Yet the junk filter is not catching them.
   
   Under Edit-Preferences-Mail Preferences-Junk, I have Check incoming
   mail for junk checked. Should I also have Include remote tests
   checked? What exactly does that add to the process? 
   
   Is there anything else I should do, or have these jerks just figured a
   good way around the Evolution junk mail filter?
  
  For junk filter to work, you need to train both SPAM and HAM. Probably
  you missed it.
  
   
   Thanks.
   
   nails
   
 I'm confused. First, my old computer running Evolution 2.2.2 and FC3
 seems to just handle junk on its own without either Spamassassin or
 Bogofilter installed or any other junk plugin. When I mark something as
 junk on that system, I see a message at the bottom that says Learning
 junk. I don't get that with my current setup, Evolution 2.10.1 and
 Ubuntu Feisty. 
Second, I've installed Spamassassin, but it doesn't seem to be doing
 anything. Under Plugin manager I have spamassassin checked and
 bogofilter unchecked.
 
 I didn't do any training of anything called Spam and Ham in my old
 system. How do I do that? 
 
 thanks.
 
 
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