Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Pete Biggs

 
 I appreciate your response. However the purpose of this list is to
 make evolution mail client behave property, utilizing any form of bug
 reports available.

Err, no.  The purpose of *this* list is to help people with Evolution -
the people who do help (like POC and many others) do so in their spare
time and, to be honest, anything that puts a barrier in the way doesn't
really encourage us to do anything.

 I suppose the image delivery method should not stop any knowledgeable
 programmer from opening it. Granted, it would take more then one click
 to see the image

I'm a sysadmin and programmer, and know how to decode encoded things,
but its not something I need to do very often. Hence in order to deal
with your image I need to install the tools necessary, cut and paste
the data into a file, run that file through the decoder, open an image
viewer, find and click on the image, then I might know what you are
talking about.  Yes, it would take more than one click.

  but inline encoding guarantees that the image is present in archives

So would having it as an attached image.

  forever and isn't at mercy of third party image hosting service.

Sometimes we get people who don't know how (or don't think it's
important) to reduce the size of an image and the mailing list software
rejects the message as too big - then putting on a third party site is
the only alternative (and PasteBin isn't an image hosting service).

P.



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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Pete Biggs

 For many releases, including the latest in Fedora 18 

Please give version numbers for Evolution, not the distro you use - not
everyone uses the same distro so they don't know which versions you are
talking about.

 I've noticing that evolution does not handle network delays properly.
 It will spin in wait state indefinitely. Please see included
 screenshot. I wonder how to diagnose and prevent infinitive waits. The
 only way to end the process is to to brute force kill signals.

This has been talked about before on this list.  Yes, it is a known
issue, but I seem to remember that the solution requires some other work
to be done first.  My experience of the issue is that many of the
problems stem from looking up contacts on a remote service (so that Evo
can decide if it's going to try and display images from the network) -
it's not the LDAP code itself that's the problem, more the type of
traffic that LDAP generates.  So try enabling Never load images from
the Internet (you can always explicitly load them with Ctrl-I) to see
if it makes it any better.

P.



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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 23:33 -0500, Eugene wrote:
 I suppose the image delivery method should not stop any knowledgeable
 programmer from opening it.

What makes you think that all, or even most, of the members of this list
are programmers? If you want to reach Evo developers, this is not the
best way to do it. The Evolution Hackers list may be better.

And if you are asking for help, making people jump through hoops before
they can even understand the question is a losing proposition.

poc

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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Sonntag, den 05.05.2013, 23:33 -0500 schrieb Eugene: 
 Hi Patrick,
 
 I appreciate your response. However the purpose of this list is to make
 evolution mail client behave property, utilizing any form of bug
 reports available. I suppose the image delivery method should not stop
 any knowledgeable programmer from opening it. Granted, it would take
 more then one click to see the image but inline encoding guarantees
 that the image is present in archives forever and isn't at mercy of

I haven't been able to see any image here ???
What I see:
begin-base64 664 EvoForever.png
iVBORw0KGgoNSUhEUgAABZYkCAIAAACVNviJA3NCSVQICAjb
4U/gGXRFWHRTb2Z0d2FyZQBnbm9tZS1zY3JlZW5zaG907wO/PgAAHM5J

and so on for maybe 200 lines :-(

Is here something wrong ?
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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 18:06 +0200, Thomas Prost wrote:
 I haven't been able to see any image here ???
 Is here something wrong ?

No, it was just not sent as an attachment file, but encoded and inline.
See previous emails in this thread.

andre
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Re: [Evolution] Settings not being retained

2013-05-06 Thread George Reeke
Dear Bart et al,
On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 16:01 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
 On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 10:10 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 16:34 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote:
   Evolution 3.6.3 on openSuse 12.3
-trimmed
   
   In this version of Evolution, the size of the message preview section is
   not remembered and is shrunken down to the bottom of the main window.
   
   This is obviously a new undocumented feature, as it didn't act this way
   in previous versions.  I am hesitant to upgrade the version number as it
   is not available in the openSuse repositories and I don't want to create
   any problems.
   
   This is not the end of the world, but I'm wondering if it is possible to
   manually modify the file where current settings are stored, and put in
   the sizes I wish?  Would it stick then?
  
  A similar issue was discussed on the list in the last few weeks. Check
  the list archives.
  
  poc
  
 
Does KDE have something like Gnome's Preferences-Sessions-Save the
Current Session button?  If so, set the evolution window(s) the way
you like and try clicking this and then logging out and in again.
It worked for me (on an older version on Gnome).
Good luck,
George Reeke

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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Sun, 2013-05-05 at 23:33 -0500, Eugene wrote:
 Hi Patrick,
 I appreciate your response. However the purpose of this list is to make 
 evolution mail client behave property, utilizing any form of bug reports 
 available.
 I suppose the image delivery method should not stop any knowledgeable 
 programmer from opening it. Granted, it would take more then one click to see 
 the image but inline encoding guarantees that the image is present in 
 archives forever and isn't at mercy of third party image hosting service.

+1  I *despise* pastebin services;  they just created disassociated
content.

But images can be attached to bugs, and bug referenced by links.

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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Adam Tauno Williams
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 10:51 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote:
  For many releases, including the latest in Fedora 18 
 Please give version numbers for Evolution, not the distro you use

+1

  - not
 everyone uses the same distro so they don't know which versions you are
 talking about.

Even people using the same version of the same distro may be using
different versions of *applications*

  I've noticing that evolution does not handle network delays properly.
  It will spin in wait state indefinitely. Please see included
  screenshot. I wonder how to diagnose and prevent infinitive waits. The
  only way to end the process is to to brute force kill signals.

  netstat --verbose --program --numeric --tcp

That should show network connections.

 This has been talked about before on this list.  Yes, it is a known
 issue, but I seem to remember that the solution requires some other work
 to be done first.  My experience of the issue is that many of the
 problems stem from looking up contacts on a remote service (so that Evo
 can decide if it's going to try and display images from the network) -
 it's not the LDAP code itself that's the problem, more the type of
 traffic that LDAP generates.  So try enabling Never load images from
 the Internet (you can always explicitly load them with Ctrl-I) to see
 if it makes it any better.

Wasn't load-images issues resolved in 3.8.x?  At least the issue
relating the proxy servers [I thought the webkit message component fixed
that].

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Re: [Evolution] infinitive wait for network events

2013-05-06 Thread Pete Biggs

  This has been talked about before on this list.  Yes, it is a known
  issue, but I seem to remember that the solution requires some other work
  to be done first.  My experience of the issue is that many of the
  problems stem from looking up contacts on a remote service (so that Evo
  can decide if it's going to try and display images from the network) -
  it's not the LDAP code itself that's the problem, more the type of
  traffic that LDAP generates.  So try enabling Never load images from
  the Internet (you can always explicitly load them with Ctrl-I) to see
  if it makes it any better.
 
 Wasn't load-images issues resolved in 3.8.x?  At least the issue
 relating the proxy servers [I thought the webkit message component fixed
 that].
 
Yeah, but Fedora 18 has Gnome 3.6 and hence Evo 3.6.4 (currently).

P.

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[Evolution] Mail to a list fails on RoadRunner SMTP

2013-05-06 Thread George Reeke
Dear colleagues,
   We use evolution 2.28.3 on CentOS 6.4 (64-bit).
   We recently switched our ISP from Verizon DSL to Time-Warner
cable, with their RoadRunner email service.  We receive mail at
our own dot-com, hosted by Earthlink--no problem there, but they
require us to send outgoing emails via the ISP's SMTP service.
   My wife has a short mailing list of 12 names to which she tried
to send a typical email with a small attachment (120KB), which always
worked fine with Verizon's SMTP.  The same email sent via RoadRunner
SMTP disappears with no trace -- no error message, no return-to-sender.
It appears in the evolution Sent folder with apparently correct
address formatting.  When sent as separate emails to the individual
addresses, they all receive it. 
   RoadRunner tech support says they don't support evolution--surprise.
They also said there are no restrictions on outgoing SMTP, but I am
guessing there is a restriction on the number of addresses on a list.
   Has anybody seen this and diagnosed it?  Any suggestions how to work
around it?  For example, is there a way I can script the sending to the
individual recipients?
   Thanks for any advice,
   George Reeke


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[Evolution] how to start over

2013-05-06 Thread Michael Hennebry

I installed and started evolution.
After messing up my first e-mail account,
I tried to fix it, but couldn't find any way to change it.
I tried to start over with rm -r ~/.evolution ,
but that did not work either.
Somewhere it found the information to recreate ~/.evolution .
I've got an evolution folder/identity/whatever with
the right name that doesn't work. It's inert.

How do I start over?

I'm trying to connect to a cableone.net account.

I've used evolution before, but it was a long drawn out struggle.
All I really remember is the blood.

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On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class,
whom I teach not to run with scissors,
that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword.  --  Lily
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Re: [Evolution] how to start over

2013-05-06 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2013-05-06 at 18:42 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 I installed and started evolution.
 After messing up my first e-mail account,
 I tried to fix it, but couldn't find any way to change it.
 I tried to start over with rm -r ~/.evolution ,
 but that did not work either.
 Somewhere it found the information to recreate ~/.evolution .
 I've got an evolution folder/identity/whatever with
 the right name that doesn't work. It's inert.
 
 How do I start over?
 
 I'm trying to connect to a cableone.net account.
 
 I've used evolution before, but it was a long drawn out struggle.
 All I really remember is the blood.
 

As has been stated countless times here, different versions of Evo work
differently, so you need to start by saying what version you have. Look
at Help-About.

poc

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