[Evolution] MAPI stopped working
Was working for a week or so, then suddenly stopped. Tried disabling/re-enabling the account, deleting the account and the associated folders and files in .evolution/, with no luck. Creating new account gives message, Authentication failed. MapiLogonProvider:MAPI_E_NETWORK_ERROR when I try to authenticate. At least authentication no longer crashes evo. Seemed to be working quite well for a while. Evolution 2.28.3 Ubuntu 10.04 evolution-mapi Version: 0.28.3-0ubuntu1 -- Art Alexion Systems Engineer Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trying to create Evolution-Exchange Account...
On Thu, 2010-06-03 at 09:43 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: First, my Exchange server has IMAP support enabled. Does anyone know what the advantage (if any) is to using the DavMail IMAP interface vs. the native Exchange server IMAP interface? I use the direct IMAP. It is faster than the DavMail proxy. I also don't see the point in using POP, but I guess the features are there for people who need them. Keep in mind that DavMail is multiplatform, so different users have different needs. We who use Linux/Evo need Exchange 2007 support. Mac users with the Snow Leopard OS release, have good 2007 support out of the box, but no 2003 support, for example. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trying to create Evolution-Exchange Account...
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 20:26 -0400, William Kenworthy wrote: Ive never been able to get evolution mapi or evolution exchange working to exchange 2003! - evo ver 2.26, I have just upgraded to gnome 2.28 and will retry it again soon, but dont hold out much hope. I found the evolution-exchange support to be flawless when we ran a 2003 server. Check your settings. Lastly, DavMail is a working solution for evolution and exchange. You connect to it using IMAP and SMTP and it talks to exchange on your behalf over OWA. Yes, DavMail is the best solution I have found for a 2007 server. I read on the DavMail list that the protocols used by Exchange 2010 were well documented. The context was whether DavMail would support 2010. My question is whether there are plans for evolution to support 2010 without resort to DavMail or another 3rd party solution? -- Art Alexion MIS ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trying to create Evolution-Exchange Account...
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 22:59 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-31 at 06:45 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: IMAP is for reading mail, SMTP is for sending (most likely). I've not heard of IMAP being useable for sending email. Yes, you're right. What I meant was that my exchange server allows sending mail as well, using normal SMTP, not requiring MAPI. Sorry I was unclear. Usually, exchange is configured so that the hostname is the same for all of the protocols, including imap and smtp. This likely led to the confusion. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trying to create Evolution-Exchange Account...
On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 23:02 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Then my company switched to Exchange 2007 and I've had to use lookOut! inside Crossover Linux ever since :-/. DavMail works well with 2007 evolution if you don't want to use lookout. Lookout 2007 is admittedly bloated, but seems to have a superior interface to any prior version. I run it for group calendaring under VirtualBox. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Trying to create Evolution-Exchange Account...
On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 11:13 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: I tried DavMail last fall for about 30m and couldn't get it working right so I gave up--too quickly I admit. Maybe I'll give it another go. The trick is the url for your mailbox, calendar, etc. FWIW, I still use lookOut! 2003, not 2007, because running 2007 under Crossover somehow takes over the window decorations as Windows-style decorations, rather than using my WM decorations, which is a major drag because it doesn't support things like mouse-2-to-send-to-back and other common mouse clicks. Plus, every 20m or so the thing wakes up and sucks down 100% of my CPU doing who-knows-what for a few minutes, which pisses me off :-). So, I stick with lookOut! 2003 and live with its quirks. Yeah, I don't user crossover, but rather VirtualBox (in seamless mode). This allows me to run other win-only stuff I need, like vSphere for VMWare and other tools. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] couchdb - ubuntuone
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 14:16 -0400, Keith Browne wrote: I'm running ubuntu 9.10 with Evolution as my mail client. I have no use for couchdb - ubuntuone and yet when I try to delete it from my address book, it doesn't go away. Refer to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-couchdb/+bug/453262 I'm not the only one. Is this bug going to be fixed when ubuntu 10.4 is released later this month? Its just a connector. It doesn't do anything unless you create an account, add your computer and populate it. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Outgoing filter issue
On one install my outgoing filters don't work. I get the error message No provider for protocol 'mail'. Any ideas why this is happening? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Outgoing filter issue
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 11:11 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 10:40 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: On one install my outgoing filters don't work. I get the error message No provider for protocol 'mail'. Any ideas why this is happening? http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Why_do_I_get_the_message_.22No_provider_available_for_protocol_email..22.3F That seems to have worked. Thanks. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Selection/cursor
Evolutions selection behavior has improved a lot over the years, but there remains room for more improvement. I spend almost all of my time in the mail module. Often, the selector in the message list pane becomes inactive. Under the old, annoying behavior, when I pressed ] to go to the next unread message, Evo would activate a search in the folder pane. Under the new [mis]behavior, it is creating an appointment with the subject ] in the calendar. When I eventually check the calendar, there are a half dozen appointments at 9 AM, entitled ]. Should I file a formal bug report, or is there a way to prevent this via configurations? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Need help with exchange
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 08:48 -0500, Marko Kaligarič wrote: I have some problems with Evolution while connecting/using exchange The problems are related to the speed of retrieving emails(sometimes, to retrieve just few emails from the server, it takes something like 30 min)and the ''Junk'' mail filter does not work properly(When you mark an email as ''Junk'', evolution moves it to the appropriate folder.But when you try to find/locate it evolution doesn't find it anywhere or if it find the email there is no way to open it). I would not use local filtering on an Exchange account, Junk or otherwise. That would slow things down. So, questions are following: 1)Is there any way to speed-up the connection with the exchange server(something more similar to a real-time connection)? Is the exchange server on the LAN or WAN? 2)Is there any difference if I use a linux server in state of the Windows one? There is no Linux Exchange server. 3)Which should be the best configuration to fix the problem with the junk mail filter or to configure evolution to work faster? Log into your exchange account via browser/owa. Set up your filters there. It will store them on the server. Turn off local filtering. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] LDAP bug?
Evolution 2.28.1 on Ubuntu 9.10 I can't create an LDAP calendar. No matter what I put in the fields, the OK button is greyed. Is this a known upstream bug or should I file one on Launchpad? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo to exchange 2007 via DavMail stop working
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 06:27 -0500, L wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Pete Biggs p...@biggs.org.uk wrote: I connect evolution to exchange server 2007 via Davmail. It stops working today. I am not sure which end causes the problem (server or evoltuion or Davmail Bridge). It keeps ask for password and error shows Unable to get mail folder at /exchange/u...@xxx.xxx What is giving that error message? Have you looked in the DavMail logs? here are last line of the log file Davmail is working well for me with evolution. There was an update earlier in the week that went smoothly. One thing that occurs to me, if it was working well before, and you changed neither davmail nor evolution is the possibility that your exchange administrator moved your mail store, which may cause the error you quote. My final suggestion is to join the davmail-users list. It is low volume and the primary developer is active and very helpful there. Instructions for joining the list are on the davmail website. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Calendar view
Every time I have done a new install, I have somehow turned off the tasks and memos that disply by default in calendar view. I must be losing it, because for the life of me, I can't remember how to do it. Google has been no help. I usually do it to give the calendars more of the screen, but at this point, I'm not connecting to the exchange memos, anyway. Please help. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar sync problems after upgrade to Exchange 2007
On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 10:40 -0500, Rheault, Rob wrote: Our Exchange servers at work were recently upgraded to Exchange 2007. I was able to get the exchange-mapi configuration setup so that I can send and receive email and I can also use the GAL. However, the only issue I am still having is that my Evolution calendar is not syncing up with Exchange 2007. Is there something that I am missing? I am using Evolution 2.28.2 and evolution-mapi 2.28.2 under Fedora 12. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Congratulations on getting this working as much as you have. I am still looking forward to doing the same. That said, an immediate solution to your calendar problem, if there is a problem with evolution-mapi and not just your setup, is to use davmail for your calendar only. I have DavMail working reliably for calendar, imap and smtp support with evolution and exchange 2007, but can't get GAL or my personal exchange contacts working. Anyone, what is the current state of evolution-mapi in the Ubuntu 9.10 repositories? When I last checked, it was still crashing when authenticating. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution connect to exchange 2007. DavMail as bridge SOLVED
From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org [evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org] On Behalf Of L [yuan...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 6:25 PM Cc: Evolution List Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution connect to exchange 2007. DavMail as bridge SOLVED On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:46 AM, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like you are using POP, and if I am correct, then the answer is no. POP only retrieves from the Inbox. If you want to keep your rules/filters, you should use IMAP so that you can have access to all of your folders. YES, I use pop. I will try imap after changed to imap, The status bar shows scanning folders, but alway showed an error escaped absolute path invalid AA perhaps IMAP is not enable on your exchange server ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution connect to exchange 2007. DavMail as bridge SOLVED
On 01/18/2010 L wrote: thanks a lot, This solves my problem. I need this connection for email only. I am amazed that it works so well, DavMail gets mail from exchange 2007, then evolution get from there. only modification pop localhost = localhost:1110 smtp localhost = localhost:1125 There is additional problem. The exchange was initially setup with some rules/filters to distribute new mails to various folders. I haven't disable these rules yet. As a result, the DavMail only gets mails in inbox. Is there any way get all new mails from inbox and other folder. If this is impossible, the last option will be to disable rules/filters Looks like you are using POP, and if I am correct, then the answer is no. POP only retrieves from the Inbox. If you want to keep your rules/filters, you should use IMAP so that you can have access to all of your folders. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution connect to exchange 2007. DavMail as bridge SOLVED
On 01/19/2010 Chris G wrote: On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 10:04:45AM -0500, Art Alexion wrote: On 01/18/2010 L wrote: thanks a lot, This solves my problem. I need this connection for email only. I am amazed that it works so well, DavMail gets mail from exchange 2007, then evolution get from there. only modification pop localhost = localhost:1110 smtp localhost = localhost:1125 There is additional problem. The exchange was initially setup with some rules/filters to distribute new mails to various folders. I haven't disable these rules yet. As a result, the DavMail only gets mails in inbox. Is there any way get all new mails from inbox and other folder. If this is impossible, the last option will be to disable rules/filters Looks like you are using POP, and if I am correct, then the answer is no. POP only retrieves from the Inbox. If you want to keep your rules/filters, you should use IMAP so that you can have access to all of your folders. That's not actually true, it's perfectly possible to read an E-Mail message using the POP3 protocol and leave it on the server. It's just that the *default* is usually to delete it from the server when you read it. That's not what I said. I said POP downloads from an Exchange server only retrieve mail from the Inbox and not from other folders. I was not at all mentioning whether or not messages are left on the server. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution connect to exchange 2007 crash, bugzilla closed?
On 01/14/2010 L wrote: I have temporarily stopped using evolution, but continue to monitor this list for news relating to this bug. As soon as it is fixed, I am back to using Evolution. that's my approach too. I am using Outlook on WinXp of VirtualBox as alternative, but eager to switch back to evolution if it can connect to exchange 2007. I am also running outlook in VBox for some shared departmental calendars and GAL lookups. I really dislike the way Outlook handles mail. For routine stuff, I switched to Thunderbird/Lightning, and am using exchage via the DavMail proxy server. http://davmail.sourceforge.net DavMail is supposed to work with evolution as well, but I couldn't get anything but the mail component working. With Thunderbird, I have my calendar working as well. Do we have hope that this will be fixed for F12 release? My hope is that it will be fixed in Ubuntu Lacksadasical Llama 10.04. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Filtering out those annoying PowerPoint attachments
On 01/13/2010 Jeff wrote: - Receiver/to: IS NOT [my email address]* *: I am assuming that this means that if there is more than one person in the to: fields, then it will get filtered out because it's not only my address. I don't think so. That would catch messages to lists you subscribe to, or perhaps where you are a CC and not a TO. As written, this will create a lot of false positives. You could try procmail, or just delete them manually when you get them. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution connect to exchange 2007 crash, bugzilla closed?
On 01/14/2010 Milan Crha wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 15:13 +1100, L wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=550527 The status showed Status: CLOSED UPSTREAM what this mean? Hi, it means, in this particular case, that there exists an upstream bug report (the link is shown there) about the same issue, thus this is not Fedora specific bug, thus any further investigation and such should be rather done in the upstream bug report, which is, apparently, still opened and is waiting for its upstream developer. Bye, Milan So it is not the upstream bug report that is closed, but rather the FC bug which is closed because it is being handled upstream? I have temporarily stopped using evolution, but continue to monitor this list for news relating to this bug. As soon as it is fixed, I am back to using Evolution. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Gmail Integration (Delete and Junk Folders)
Stephen Zakrewsky wrote: I was wondering if anybody has a solution to the gmail delete and junk problem. This is where deleting or marking mail as junk in evolution doesn't do the same in gmail, and instead all the mail ends up in the gmail generic all mail folder. A manual solution is to use move instead of delete or junk but I was wondering if there was a better solution. I don't use evolution for my gmail accounts, but you have to configure the delete action to move to [gmail]/Trash, and the Junk action to move to [gmail]/Junk. It makes no sense to have both gmail and evo handle junk filtering. The above notifies the gmal filters that the message is junk. As for deletion, if you don't move the message to trash, gmail will simply remove the current label and move the message to all mail. I use kmail for gmail because you can easily configure these actions and edit the toolbar to further enhance this. This is not so easily configured in gmail/gnome. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Opening pdf attachments
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 17:30 -0500, Carpet Nailz wrote: I don't think it's the solution, though That's too bad. I had the same problem about a year ago, and that was the solution for me. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to connect to exchange 2007 server
On 12/14/2009 Jaap A. Haitsma wrote: On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 22:09, L yuan...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 7:13 AM, Jaap A. Haitsma j...@haitsma.org wrote: Some people mentioned evo 2.28.0 and evo-mapi 0.28.0 are not working, evo-2.28.1 and evo-mapi-0.28.1 can connect to exchange 2007. on my F12 system, I managed to upgraded to evo-2.28.1. The problem remained. Keep crash during mapi-profile setup (at authentication step) I'm seeing the same. Can somebody of the developers explain if it is supposed to work with outlook anywhere or not? Same here on Ubuntu 9.10. Switched to DavMail T-bird for now, but monitoring this list so that I can switch back to evo once the MAPI plugin is stable. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Bug 579185
David wrote: I reported this bug on 6/18/2009. Does anyone know if there are any plans to fix it soon? Essentially the bug is that the MAPI plugin cannot authenticate to an Exchange server that requires SSL access. Servers that don't require SSL are readily accessible. There is no option in the MAPI setup to select SSL like there is on IMAP access. I am not a programmer, but from what I can understand this bug has not been assigned high priority. It is a critical issue for many users. Many, many servers are requiring SSL and the number is likely to increase. A huge number of users cannot use Evolution since they are limited to IMAP email access. I love Linux and Evolution, but my job requires full access to Exchange Server. I really want to dump Windows. Does anyone know if there is any plan to fix this problem, and how it can be elevated to a critical issue? I get crashes during the authentication stage of the account setup, and we DON'T have SSL set up. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to connect to exchange 2007 server
On 12/15/2009 Pete Biggs wrote: So why not use DavMail and Evo? I couldn't get the calendar to work. I haven't been able to get the GAL/LDAP to work on either. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to connect to exchange 2007 server
On 12/15/2009 Paul Smith wrote: Just as a point of order, I've tried DavMail and haven't had much more success with it in terms of the things I really need Exchange support for, which is primarily calendaring with the ability to schedule meetings, see free/busy information, and get meeting reminders than with the MAPI plugin. Which is to say, basically none. Which is why I switched to T-bird/DavMail. Calendaring works well if you get the URL right (and its case sensitive). -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Opening pdf attachments
On 12/15/2009 Carpet Nailz wrote: I see lots of posts about similar problems, but there doesn't seem to be a solution that I've found. I'm running Evo 2.24.1.1, which is the latest version for openSuse 11.1. When I get a pdf attachment, I often do not get the option to open the attachment with either Acrobat reader or Evince. One email that I received this morning only give me the options of gedit or OpenOffice.org Writer/Web... Other times I get one or the other or both Acrobat or Evince. I actually received one email with two pdf attachments. One attachment gave me the options and the other did not (??). I did not have this problem in the past with Evolution--seems to have started with my move to openSuse 11.1. If I right-click on a pdf file in Nautilus it shows all the relevant options. Thanks for any help. This is a MIME problem, not an evolution one. It depends on how the sending system encodes the PDF acrobat/PDF or application/PDF. Make sure both MIME types open in the reader you want. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] connect Evolution 2.28 to MS exchange 2007 on Fedora 12
On 11/24/2009 Milan Crha wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 15:14 -0500, Art Alexion wrote: Evolution's caldav won't connect to davmail at all. Hi, this seems to work fine for me. How do you connect to DAVMail with CalDAV from Evolution? Does it print any error on console (most likely on eds console)? Just in case, my CalDAV setup is URL: caldav://localhost:1080/users/mcrha/calendar Use SSL: unchecked Username: mcrha Thanks, Milan. Worked like a charm. I had been using URL: caldav://localhost:1080/users/a...@rhd.org/calendar got rid of the '@rhd.org' but kept the username rhd.org\art Suggestions for LDAP? Last question, is it true that caldav will not support shared public folder calendars? I am used to having two running with evo-exchange, my personal and the departmental. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] OK greyed
I was trying to follow some of the suggestions for caldav and ldap from Milan and Reid, and none of my preferences/properties dialogs allow me to select OK. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Suggestions that would make it possible for me to fully migrate to Linux via Evolution
On 11/20/2009 Bryan Karlan wrote: I am a power-user of Outlook and am interested in fully migrating to Ubuntu and Evolution. I have tried Outlook with Wine, but that was a waste of time. I push Outlook to the limits and am hesistant to purchase a $300 copy of a full install of Windows7 Ultimate and a $500 copy of Office 2010 in 6 months. I believe that Linux has become a real alternative for a business user and because of this I have joined your site to offer some advice that would improve the usability of Evolution. Brian, Just because you can push Outlook to technical limits doesn't mean it is is good idea to do so. Please avoid HTML and unnecessary graphics in technical lists. Now, tell us some things about your set up. What will you be using as a backend? IMAP? POP? Exchange? If Exchange, what version? Will you be connecting to the mail server over the LAN or WAN? -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] connect Evolution 2.28 to MS exchange 2007 on Fedora 12
Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 08:35 +0100, Jean-Claude Tergal wrote: 2009/11/19 L yuan...@gmail.com: One of main reasons for upgrade F11 to F12 was to hope to connect evolution 2.28 to Exchange 2007. After a smooth upgrade to F12. I tried to connect evolution 2.28 with evo-mapi to M$ exchange server. no luck at all, it crashed every time. The insttiute's exchange server does not open imap port. i you have sucessful connection, please share with me I have a successful connection, but my compagny is using Exchange 2003 ; and the evolution-exchange RPM of Mandriva 2010 says Currently, only Exchange 2000 and 2003 are supported. So, it seems that Exchange 2007 is not supported at all ; I think you have to stay with VirtualBox, or use the bloody Outlook Web Access in Firefox. Nicolas Strasbourg (France) I have a successful connection with Exchange 2007. Evo-mapi crashes immediately in release 2.28.0, you need 2.28.1 where the fixes are. I'm not familiar with F12 or indeed anything about Fedora, but you may need to talk to the maintainer of gnome/evolution/evo-mapi for your distro. You are lucky. I have 2.28.1, but evolution crashes as soon as I try to authenticate. Thunderbird works fine with DAVMail, but Lightning as the calendar provider is quite flaky. Evolution's caldav won't connect to davmail at all. Nothing seems to connect to the GAL. So, I run Tbird/DavMail for mail and installed a stripped down version of XP in virtual box, stripped it down some more, installed Outlook, set the registry so that shell=outlook.exe, and am using it as a calendar/addressbook appliance. I am patiently hoping that evolution-mapi will work as well as evolution-exchange some day and I can go back to using a native Linux solution. Evolution was the reason I ran gnome on my work machine. sigh -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] removing my name from mailing list
On 11/18/2009 Matthew Barnes wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-18 at 10:31 -0500, Reid Thompson wrote: if you go to the url listed above, it provides the necessary information for you to unsubscribe. I don't have any control over this myself, but do you think these frequent unsubscribe requests would be mitigated by changing the footer to read something like: ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org To unsubscribe or change your delivery options, visit: http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list It's the same footer for all GNOME mailing lists, so I'd have to talk to the infrastructure guys about it. But is that wording clear enough or do you have any alternate suggestions? Much clearer. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution mapi issues
From: Paul Smith [p...@mad-scientist.us] Sent: Sunday, November 01, 2009 9:58 AM To: Ng Oon-Ee Cc: Art Alexion; evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] evolution mapi issues On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 22:22 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I haven't touched my Buntu install for ages, so I have no idea what version Karmic has. You should check, and lobby for 2.28.1 if you have to. Karmic has 2.28.1. I've also updated my makefile for building code from the Gnome sources so it works with the new git repositories, and it can also build the openmapi code as well. It's still in testing but a few people have used it successfully; let me know if you want a copy. I'm having very mixed results with stability; I haven't been able to get Evo to function with MAPI anywhere near as well as I had it working a year ago, with our Exchange 2003 server and the OWA backend. In particular, I've never even come close to getting the calendar support working, and I'm seeing a lot of failures trying to SEND mail through the Exchange server. In short, so far, there's no chance I can give up my lookOut! running in CrossOver and go back to Evo full time--as much as I'd love to. That's depressing. I have tried DavMail with a little success. Ironically, I can't get it to run under gnome because it can't find the java on that machine. It is working fine in KDE so I may end up using kmail if my experiences are like Paul's. -- Art Alexion ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution mapi issues
On Oct 30, 2009, at 7:49 PM, Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 15:05 -0400, Ben May wrote: On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 14:50 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: My exchange account was just migrated to a 2007 server. I disabled the 2003 account, and am trying to set up the 2007 account with evolution-mapi. Every time I get to the point in the new account wizard where I authenticate, evo crashes. Here is the command line output. Thanks for any help or suggestions. I really don't want to use OWA, and I can't get MailDAV to recognize my java re. I've never gotten evolution to work correctly with Exchange 2007. I ended up having to completely remove the evolution MAPI plugin because all it did was cause evo to segfault. If this is Evo 2.28.0, you need the first four git commits after its release, which fixes segfaulting on my system. Or get 2.28.1 (or get your distro to do that). Not at work today, but I'm pretty sure it's Evo 2.26.1 (ubuntu 9.04 jaunty). I plan to upgrade Monday. Is the mapi plugin more stable in 2.28? -- Art Alexion Sent unsigned from iPod ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] evolution mapi issues
My exchange account was just migrated to a 2007 server. I disabled the 2003 account, and am trying to set up the 2007 account with evolution-mapi. Every time I get to the point in the new account wizard where I authenticate, evo crashes. Here is the command line output. Thanks for any help or suggestions. I really don't want to use OWA, and I can't get MailDAV to recognize my java re. $ evolution [1] 5451 a...@art-ubuntu:~$ ** (evolution:5451): DEBUG: Loading Exchange MAPI Plugin ** (evolution:5451): DEBUG: MAPI listener is constructed with 0 listed MAPI accounts ** (evolution:5451): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution %s ** (evolution:5451): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution ** (evolution:5451): DEBUG: EI: SHELL STARTUP EI: MAIL PREFSe-data-server-ui-Message: Unable to find password(s) in keyring (Keyring reports: No matching results) e-data-server-ui-Message: Key file does not have group 'Passwords-ExchangeMAPI' Create profile with art rhd.org exch.rhd.org libexchangemapi-Message: exchange-mapi-connection.c:2874: exchange_mapi_create_profile: lock(connect_lock) Unknown parameter encountered: max log size Ignoring unknown parameter max log size Unknown parameter encountered: syslog Ignoring unknown parameter syslog Unknown parameter encountered: passdb backend Ignoring unknown parameter passdb backend Unknown parameter encountered: unix password sync Ignoring unknown parameter unix password sync Unknown parameter encountered: passwd program Ignoring unknown parameter passwd program Unknown parameter encountered: pam password change Ignoring unknown parameter pam password change Unknown parameter encountered: map to guest Ignoring unknown parameter map to guest Unknown parameter encountered: usershare allow guests Ignoring unknown parameter usershare allow guests Unknown parameter encountered: guest ok Ignoring unknown parameter guest ok Unknown parameter encountered: guest ok Ignoring unknown parameter guest ok Logging into the server... succeeded libexchangemapi-Message: exchange-mapi-connection.c:146: exchange_mapi_connection_close: lock(connect_lock) [1]+ Trace/breakpoint trap evolution ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Another folder selection wish
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 08:38 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: What about rather https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252922 ? That would be better than nothing, though not ideal (you would lose the position of the last message you were looking at, assuming it's now been marked as Read). However instead of oldest unread I would prefer first unread, as defined by the folder sort order rather than date. The user orders the folder by some preferred criterion and that should be taken into account. Even the concept of oldest isn't clear (sent date?, arrival order?). Noite that first also depends on the whether the folder is sorted in increasing or decreasing order. See also https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=587610 for a related issue. My concern is not so much which message is selected (though I would prefer last selected message*) so much as that a message, not the folder, receive the keyboard focus. *The reason I prefer last selected is that I may be checking something in another folder in reference to the selected message. Once I get the info I need from that other folder, I want to go back to the message I was reading. Did I articulate that understandably? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Image insertion bug?
1. Create an html message. 2. Insert an inline image from the toolbar Use a local image. 3. Delete the image from the message. 4. Edit (I cropped) the image in the Gimp or other photo editor. Make sure to save the edits in the same place under the same name. 5. Re-insert the image in the message The original, no longer existent image, is inserted. Evo apparently caches the image and I don't see any way to refresh this cache to update to the edited version. That said, the edited image is the one that is sent. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Another folder selection wish
The recent right-click email reminded me to ask this. When I go to another module, such as the calendar, and return to mail, the current folder -- as opposed to the current message -- is selected. Likewise, when I click a folder to switch to it, that folder, rather than the current message in that folder is selected. Why do I find this bad? Because Evo has no mouse-based way to go to the next UNREAD message, so I use ']' or '.'. But when the folder is selected, this doesn't go to the next unread message, but opens a search box for a folder starting with this character. If I notice that this has happened and try to click on a message, the selection switches to On this Computer. Is there a way to change this so that keyboard navigation always affects the message list rather than the folder list? Maybe I am unique in wanting this, but I rarely want to search the folder list. Even if I had a lot of folders, evo displays them in alphabetical order, so I wouldn't need to search. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Why I must stop using Evolution
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:46 -0400, Harald Beck wrote: * If I start the computer from hibernating (having Evolution started before hibernating), I'm prompted for the password for one of my two mail accounts -- without effect (endless loop); so I have to cancel. This does not happen, if I shutdown the computer, and start Evolution as usual. (That problem seemed to be linked with using ubuntu; but why does it work for the other account!?) With Ubuntu 9.04, Kmail and Evolution both display this behavior. The problem is that the MUAs start trying to retrieve mail before the hibernating computer re-establishes a network connection. The reason you are not getting this problem with the other account may be that your two accounts are set for different polling intervals, and the non-problem account isn't hitting the server before the network is back up. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Why I must stop using Evolution
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 12:46 -0400, Harald Beck wrote: * In the calender view, where tasks and memos appear on the right, the memo list is empty, though there are memos listed in the memo view. Filtering? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Why I must stop using Evolution
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 10:12 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: * Evolution crashes (!) each time I edit a previously created appointment to make it an recurring event. So if I forgot to specify that at the time of creation, I have to delete it first, and create it again, making sure I edit the recurrence information before closing the formular. I use 2.26.3 on Debian (Ubuntu is based on Debian so they're very similar) and haven't experienced this. I'd suggest the solution is to stop using Ubuntu which seems to experience above-average instability. My Evolution doesn't crash or hang. I don't have this problem with Ubuntu 8.04 or 9.04. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Why I must stop using Evolution
On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 14:40 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 17:35 +, Art Alexion wrote: With Ubuntu 9.04, Kmail and Evolution both display this behavior. The problem is that the MUAs start trying to retrieve mail before the hibernating computer re-establishes a network connection. The reason you are not getting this problem with the other account may be that your two accounts are set for different polling intervals, and the non-problem account isn't hitting the server before the network is back up. The fundamental problem is there's no desktop-wide notification of hibernate/suspend and resume. Or if there is now, we're not listening for it. If we had such a notification it would be fairly simple to drop to offline mode until we get a resume notification. As things stand now Evolution has no idea that anything happened. The process resumes to find all it's network sockets are suddenly closed and time has suddenly jumped far ahead, and it doesn't deal well with that (unnecessary password prompts, cascading errors, etc.). I believe the notification issue is being worked on (I'd have to check with some of my Red Hat colleagues), but until that's in place I'd recommend either shutting Evolution down or placing it in offline mode yourself before hibernating or suspending. Thanks for the explanation. That makes sense. Lacking a notification from gnome, kde or the OS, could evolution be made to test for a network connection and abort interval checking until it detects one, or would that cause too much of a problem when the network is normally up? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and EWS access to Exchange
On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 15:01 -0400, Milan Crha wrote: I've configured an OWA URL in DavMail as this: https://exchange2007.example.com/owa I have been nervous about my company's impending change from 2003 to 2007, because I have been lead to believe that the mapi plugin is not yet fully functional, so this is most interesting. However, the above url is not working. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 08:24 -0400, Edgar Matzinger wrote: Hi Art, As an editor, it is worse than Outlook (which is worse than anything True. else) because it prohibits (not merely discourages) trimming and bottom posting. Nonsense, outlook only discourages bottom posting. You can easily edit/trim your post before sending it off. I do so regurlarly. In the past I've used macros (found on the net somewhere: quotefix) to properly indent and quote messages. And it forces you to use plain text... Which is a nightmare to set up on outlook. You misunderstood my post. Outlook merely discourages trimming and bottom posting. It is the Blackberry which virtually prohibits it. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and the control-L function
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:32 -0400, Ben May wrote:
All this discussion of top versus bottom posting got me thinking. If
there's ALREADY a function in evolution specifically for replying to
mailing lists, couldn't we add configurations where you set:
For regular reply or reply-to-all: {Use top posting / Use bottom
posting}
For reply-to-mailing lists (ie: control-L): {use top posting / use
bottom posting}
Just a thought. :)
I would say, no, because though I am often an offender when I reply
from my Blackberry, I think bottom posting is best in every situation
you can. And most of the time you can even make it readable to Outlook
users with judicious trimming.
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Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:57 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote: They get confused and it makes more work for me to try and explain it. 90% of all users I email use top post except for mailing lists. You can minimize that confusion with proper trimming. With Evo (to get this back on topic), trimming is easy because all you have to do is select your quote before hitting reply. I noticed that you did not trim at all. That may be the reason for your readers' confusion. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:10 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote: All this would not happen if you use a realy good MUA (like 'mutt') and a good text editor (like 'vim'), as I do. Matthias, I am clueless as to why you monitor and participate in this list devoted to Evo if you use mutt and vim, and believe that evo is a browser-like MUA, like OutLook, Evo or any webmail in a real browser). The problem is that these MUA are buggy or wrong coded. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 16:07 -0400, bgzgn...@sf.porterfield.net wrote: delete to end is hold Shift and Ctrl then press and release End then press Del. Four keys vs 5. I can do it it with 3 -- 2, if you count combos as 1. Shift+End,Del Undo it, Ctrl+z. Moreover, it works like every other text editor I use so I don't need the additional step of looking up an arcane key combo. I do all of my root editing in the console. I use ne, because it uses the same key commands as my other editors. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:43 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 03:28:53 -0400, Art Alexion escribió: On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:10 -0400, Matthias Apitz wrote: All this would not happen if you use a realy good MUA (like 'mutt') and a good text editor (like 'vim'), as I do. Matthias, I am clueless as to why you monitor and participate in this list devoted to Evo if you use mutt and vim, and believe that evo is [so bad] This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled. Matthais, Weren't you the one chastising me for using a work-mandated Blackberry? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and thecontrol-Lfunction
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:35 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:33 -0400, Derek McDaniel wrote: Plus, I prefer not to trim because if I am on my BB, and I didn't read the first post, I can read the middle and understand the gist of everything. Am I the only one getting that's getting a *really* bad feeling about the long-term effect of the BB on email in general? Outlook was bad enough, and now we have to make allowances for people on phones? The BB tries to emulate Outlook because it is aimed at Exchange users who are usually Outlook users. As an editor, it is worse than Outlook (which is worse than anything else) because it prohibits (not merely discourages) trimming and bottom posting. Overall though, depending on your perspective, it is better than Evo because I don't constantly have misreported message totals and corrupted indicies. That is, it is more stable, if not as elegantly featured. My shop used to use Palm phones, but we switched to the BB because of superior stability and easier for IT to support. It wasn't because we liked the interface more. They are just more reliable. The iPhone seems to have come a long way. It even features select to quote, and is quite stable. I haven't tried the Palm Pre or any of the Google Android phones. I thought the OpenMoko/Neo phones were merely theoretical, because, until someone on this list mentioned one, I have never heard of an actual sighting. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and the control-L function
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 15:47 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: Personally my favorite Evo-only feature (at least I've not seen other mail clients who use it) is how if you select a part of the message then reply, then only that part is quoted in your reply. If you get used to this feature, then the likelihood that you'll want to do FURTHER editing is greatly reduced... so I always set start typing at the bottom as that's what I almost always want to do. Among my favorite features as well, and I rarely edit after hitting reply. It is, however, supported by kmail, Apple Mail.app, iPhone Mail 3.x, and Thunderbird (with a plug in), to my knowledge. Maybe more clients which I have never tried. Ironically, thinking back 15-18 years ago, it was the aol users we hated because their mailer didn't quote anything and it was hard to gauge context. You would get an email that just said, yes from someone you hadn't recently asked a question. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Changing Port 25 to Port 587
With Verizon it is also SSL, password is plain, and make sure Evo is set up for SMTP authentication. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Thu Oct 15 18:46:25 2009 Subject: [Evolution] Changing Port 25 to Port 587 My ISP (Verizon) changed the rules for sending email. They now require using port 587 to send email instead of the default port 25. I have made the change on my 2 windows machines using Eudora 7 with ease but getting Evolution to work has been a problem. It still received email but will not send. I have changer the SMTP server name to include :587 at the end but still no luck. I am running Ubuntu 8.1o on the desktop and 8.04 on the netbook with the same results. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Changing Port 25 to Port 587
For me, the server is outgoing.verizon.net No mail or smtp in the hostname. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: supp...@plecavalier.com supp...@plecavalier.com; koja...@gmail.com koja...@gmail.com Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Fri Oct 16 01:00:38 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Changing Port 25 to Port 587 Phil Kojak.t, Using plain, TSL SSL encryption, messages are received but no mail is sent, the window just sits there. Authentication is checked or not the results are the same. If I change the outgoing server from mail.XXX.com to smtp.mail.XXX.com it attempts to send the mail but has the following error message Host lookup failed: smtp.mail.XXX.com: Name or service not known and is the only error message I can get otherwise it sits there regardless of how long I wait (several minutes). Thanks, John At 06:19 PM 10/15/2009, supp...@plecavalier.com wrote: Quoting Kojak T koja...@gmail.com: On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 15:46 -0700, John Maxwell wrote: My ISP (Verizon) changed the rules for sending email. They now require using port 587 to send email instead of the default port 25. I have made the change on my 2 windows machines using Eudora 7 with ease but getting Evolution to work has been a problem. It still received email but will not send. I have changer the SMTP server name to include :587 at the end but still no luck. I am running Ubuntu 8.1o on the desktop and 8.04 on the netbook with the same results. What error are you getting? You most likely need to enable SMTP auth. Phil No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.17/2436 - Release Date: 10/14/09 18:32:00 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote: Apparently it doesn't support bottom-posting either. IPhone =3.0, yes. Blackberry, no. -- Art Alexion Sent unsigned from iPod ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 06:00 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: I think the project, and the application, is doing great. Compared to the Evolution of old this app rocks (and compared to every other Open Source e-mail/calendar client - Evo is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, it is hard to even consider them in the same category). I like Kontact. I use it for personal mail. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. Kontact excels at customizability and user control. It seems to have fewer bugs than Evo and does gmail IMAP better than evo or thunderbird. Evo excels at Exchange connectivity and HTML rendering and editing. I think the Evo developers are extremely responsive, and often hold them out as an example of why Open Source is so good. (and incidentally, so is Ingo Klöcker the kmail developer.) -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BB MUA [Was: field on the evolution list]
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 08:37 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: Are there (is it even possible?) alternate MUAs for the BB? I'm curious, I have BB users, some of whom are quite clueful. There is a gmail app, but of course, it only works with gmail accounts. It is also among the lamest of google products I have tried, but it does work and does allow bottom posting. Again, for gmail accounts only. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 08:32 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 05:30 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve wrote: Apparently it doesn't support bottom-posting either. IPhone =3.0, yes. Blackberry, no. I found this hard to credit so I checked on my daughter's BB. It's true that the email app strongly encourages you to top-post, but it is possible to work around it: 1) Copy the quoted text 2) Select the option to not quote 3) Paste the quoted text and continue at the end. The quoted text is not set off by indentation or leading marks so you'd need to insert a boundary line. I acknowledge that this is laborious, but for mailing lists I also think bottom-posting is important. Of course you could also use your BB for work-related and one-to-one mail, and use your desktop for list traffic. Laborious and not particularly effective since the quote is not deliniated. There is no paste as quotation option. By the way, I see this list as work related as I only use Evo at work for my work account. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BB MUA [Was: field on the evolution list]
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 08:48 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: AFAIK the BB is a very closed system, but that's basically the end of my knowledge about the subject. And it can be even more closed if the blackberry is connected to the server via BES. As BB administrator for my company, I can control which apps users can install, which icons appear on its screen, whether they go through the company firewall or not, which hours they receive mail, and so on. I generally don't, but I can. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] BB MUA [Was: field on the evolution list]
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 09:50 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Google found a few, e.g. http://www.logicprobe.org/proj/logicmail is free and is a real IMAP client (no idea whether it supports bottom-posting though). I like the sound of this one and will give it a try. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
On Tue, 2009-10-13 at 13:01 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: and I think the current Previous/Next buttons are useless, and wish they were Prev Unread/Next Unread. They are only useful if you enable the preview pane, then you can rapidly scroll through messages; but with the advent of larger screen I usually just open a message and next-next-next away. On smaller screen (something netbook-ish) the preview pane is very useful. I use the preview pane all of the time and still don't find them useful. I am an inbox abuser and allow mine to get very large. I use threaded view. I sort chronologically and not reverse chron. I use the [ ] keys all of the time, but often wish I could use my mouse. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
Netiquette, schmetiquette. Though I usually read this list on my work desktop with evolution, this blackberry MUA and others just don't support reply to list. While I agree with your point, the reality is that you just can't expect that those features are available to people all of the time. IIRC, the iPhone 3.0 also made it difficult to trim posts, and did not support reply to list. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Sun Oct 11 18:56:10 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 15:38 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: There should be one. That is of the form: Reply-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Recently (and not for the first time) I hit Reply to a posting rather than Reply-to-All, and send a message to a poster when I meant to send it to the list. It's another religious issue - as I see it, the message in your inbox is From: a person, so hitting reply should make that reply go to that person, not to a few thousand other people as well. I've seen worse embarrassing miss-posts on mailing lists set with the Reply-To: header of the type you suggest than the mild annoyance that you got when your mail went to an individual rather than the list. If you want the message to go to the mailing list, hit Reply To List (Ctrl-L), not Reply to All, that will make your reply go to the proper place as derived from the mail headers and makes sure the person you are replying to doesn't get two copies. (Another bit of netiquette that seems to be forgotten about.) P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]
Must not be that similar. Don't be so dismissive when it appears have a clue about this one. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon Oct 12 06:42:48 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ] On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 06:36:10AM -0400, Art Alexion wrote: Sometimes, indeed, some of us just can't. Like now, when I am reading mail on my Blackberry. The BB inserts the entire uneditable quote below your response. What rubbish! My very similar Nokia E71 allows me to bottom post and/or edit the whole of the reply including quoted original message. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Sun Oct 11 17:15:18 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ] Top Post - Good Bottom Post - Good Mixing Top Post and Bottom Post - Bad How about a thread where some people top-post and others bottom-post (leading to a mixture of both styles in the same quoted message)? If that is bad, why don't we just standardize ... Which is the entire point; read any of the very good netiquette documents (even RFCs!). The *standard* is to bottom-post (or better: inline) your response. But that clearly isn't going to happen. We could just standardize - you just need to convince everyone who top-posts and also everyone who can't trim signatures and extraneous crap from their replies. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- Chris Green ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]
I use a Blackberry because it is the phone my employer requires me to use. We use Blackberries because we use Exchange, which incidentally, is the same reason I use Evolution. You say you would never use it? Perhaps jobs are so plentiful for you that you can pick one based on the cell phone you prefer to use. By the way, Exchange is the MTA (mail transport agent). The mail client on the Blackberry (as well as Outlook, and Evolution) is the MUA (mail user agent). -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: Matthias Apitz g...@unixarea.de To: Art Alexion Cc: awill...@opengroupware.us awill...@opengroupware.us; evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon Oct 12 08:16:26 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ] El día Monday, October 12, 2009 a las 06:36:10AM -0400, Art Alexion escribió: Sometimes, indeed, some of us just can't. Like now, when I am reading mail on my Blackberry. The BB inserts the entire uneditable quote below your response. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) If this is really not configurable, you're using a buggy and wrong MTA. I know (from my colleagues) that even OutLook can not quote correctly and you have to install some tool called OutLook QuoteFix, but then it works. If the BB is not capable of this, I would either use an OpenSource (Linux based) phone, the Openmoko Freerunner (which I'm actually using) or an OpenSource base netbook, like the EeePC900 with FreeBSD on it. I would never use an gadget like the BB which is restricting me in that; matthias -- Matthias Apitz t +49-89-61308 351 - f +49-89-61308 399 - m +49-170-4527211 e g...@unixarea.de - w http://www.unixarea.de/ Vote NO to EU The Lisbon Treaty: http://www.no-means-no.eu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic Update for Evolution
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 10:46 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On 09/29/2009 09:17 AM, Barbara Tobias wrote: Is there a way to have the update manager automatically download the latest stable release of Evolution when it is doing other updates? I am using Evolution 2.26.1 under Ubuntu Linux 9.04. I'm also relatively new to Linux and not very technically savvy. Isn't this happening already? I don't use Ubuntu much but I would imagine it gets any updated version of Evo the same as it does for other packages. Right. 2.26.1 is the latest version with Ubuntu 9.04. If you mean why isn't the latest stable version of Evo (e.g. the newly released 2.28) in the Ubuntu repositories then that's a question for the Ubuntu people. This is one of the differences between Linux and Windows and is one of the reasons Linux is more stable than Windows. The way it works is like this. Ubuntu is your distribution. 9.04 (released in April of 2009, see the numbering scheme?) is your version or release. Ubuntu releases a version of the OS every 6 months, usually April and October. The next release, currently in Alpha, is 9.10. Leaving aside concepts like backports for now, at some point, a distro release goes into version freeze, that is the software compiled to run with it is frozen at a particular version. With Ubuntu 9.04 and Evolution, the Evo version is 2.26. For 18 months from its April 2009 release, Ubuntu will release security updates to 2.26. Bug fixes are sometimes included, but only security fixes are promised. To get the Evo 2.28 branch, you will need to upgrade your entire Ubuntu to 9.10. As you are new, I would wait until late November to do the upgrade as 9.10 may have some bugs with some hardware when it is first released. Some exceptions to the foregoing come with backports (where newer versions of software are backported to an older release) and LTS (Long Term Support) releases. Ubuntu 8.04 is an LTS release. These LTS releases are geared toward production environments where the need for stability trumps the need for the newest. Hoep this helps. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sig placement
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 11:28 -0400, Sam Mason wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:16 -0400, Sam Mason wrote: In the case of two (or another small number) of people in limited discussion the copy-everything mode of top-posting doesn't matter. Efficiency concerns really don't matter most of the time here. But it's kilobytes we're talking about; this is five decimal orders of magnitude less than most peoples storage capacity. The example above seems to be about a couple orders of magnitude. Mailing list archives seem to be about the only people it affects. Everybody else is going to be much more worried about attachments getting large first. Or were you replying to bits you didn't quote? One of my roles is sharing in Exchange administration here. We limit people to 500 MB on the server. We have little success in convincing people that email data stores are not file systems or document management systems. So we impose a limit which, when exceeded, prevents them from sending messages. Let them decide how to manage their own inboxes to stay within that limit. Many users have 10,000 messages. For me, the best reason to quote bottom or interleaved, is to encourage the sender to look at what she is quoting and trim what isn't needed. If we eliminated the thoughtless and duplicative quoting, those same hoarders could keep at least 40,000 messages. Which, with my poorly attributed quote, is my long winded way of saying that eventually, even kilobytes add up, and that I know this from personal experience. [1] The actual quote ...seems to be a misquote: http://www.dirksencenter.org/print_emd_billionhere.htm Thanks for that. Not only did Dirksen possibly not say it, but I even had my mid-1960s Republicans mixed up. No matter who said, it, it remains one of my favorite lines. Honest mistake, I guess, I was 11 years old at the time. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sig placement
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 11:58 -0400, Philippe LeCavalier wrote: Also, I find that if I bottom-post or interleave my reply people will respond top-posted and then nothing makes sense anymore. Yeah, that's damned annoying isn't it? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sig placement [Was: newbie questions]
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 09:12 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 06:00 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Sun, 2009-09-27 at 14:09 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: - Is there a way to make my signature appear in every email without having to explicitly pick it? Also, if I am replying to a message it appears to put my sig at the bottom of the entire message, whereas I want to appear at the bottom only of my text. Arg! That means you are top-posing - please use e-mail correctly. Anyway, in composer preferences / general I think keep signature above the original message on replying does what you want. But this is in the Top Posting (Not Recommended) sub-section. Note the Not Recommended. Signatures *ALWAYS* belong at the *END* of the message. Excuse me for butting in on this thread, but as much as I'm aware of the 'natural-ness' of bottom-posting and its usefulness for long threads, I believe top-posting is still a relatively common general choice for emails. While generality doesn't translate to correctness, shouldn't such a choice be up to the user(s) who are in communication? Doesn't seem the place of an email client to 'dictate' (in a minor sense) to the user the right way to send his/her mails. It doesn't dictate - as mentioned it provides an option specifically to do it wrong. Every client should encourage users to use best practices. And I think email clients should adopt RFC 987654321-CBA and incorporate letterhead. Of course, it should be placed at the bottom with the signature on top. Now, is there a way, programmatically speaking, to reverse the order of the sentences in the body when one hits the send button? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sig placement
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 13:58 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I do the same. IMHO top-posting became entrenched because of people unfamiliar with the concepts of threading or archving, but it's now a fact of life in some contexts. Actually, I think it became entrenched because Microsoft implemented it in Outlook/Outlook Express, and users who discovered email with those products didn't know any better. With so many users expecting it that way, the web mail providers emulated it. I think it is so entrenched at this point, that I tend to top post when I know my recipient with think I sent her a blank email if I don't. When possible, I counteract it by very selectively quoting, and either bottom or interleaved posting. (BTW, select to quote is not only possible with Evolution and kmail, but also with Thunderbird and Apple's Mail.app.) I think the preserve the thread argument is spurious, both for the reason which I think Patrick pointed out, and also because, how many copies of every email in a conversation does anyone need? People make a living selling exchange addons that de-duplicate that stuff in the exchange storage. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sig placement
On Mon, 2009-09-28 at 15:16 -0400, Sam Mason wrote: In the case of two (or another small number) of people in limited discussion the copy-everything mode of top-posting doesn't matter. Efficiency concerns really don't matter most of the time here. To paraphrase former US Senator Barry Goldwater, a gigabyte here, a gigabyte there, and pretty soon you are talking real storage.[1] I think the preserve the thread argument is spurious, both for the reason which I think Patrick pointed out, and also because, how many copies of every email in a conversation does anyone need? I'm still amazed nobody noticed my changes to Pete's message--that was the only reason I top-posted. Which is why the argument is spurious. When people top-post, nobody reads the quote for context anyway. ... LIke I said, businesses grow and prosper due to business' belief that changing bad behavior is hopeless, and some automated data slenderizer is the only answer. [1] The actual quote went something like a billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you are talking real money. He said this when national budgets of industrialized nations were measured in the billions, not yet trillions. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Printing Email Lists
Do you mean something other than highlight-copy-paste? -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Tue Sep 15 08:39:36 2009 Subject: [Evolution] Printing Email Lists I am using Evolution 2.26.1 under Ubuntu Linux 9.04. I work with email lists frequently and would like a way to copy the information in them to use in other applications. I have not found this in the documentation. Is there a way to do it? Thanks. Barbara Tobias ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Printing Email Lists
On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 13:27 -0400, Barbara Tobias wrote: What I am trying to do is to copy the names and email addresses from a fairly large list (from the window Evolution pops up when you access the list) to an Open Office Writer file so that I can easily send it to the members. It is a group that frequently changes membership and new members need to set up the info. However, it is not large enough to be worth setting up one of the automatic email systems. I tried copy and paste first because that seemed to be the easiest way to go, but it will not let me select more than one name at a time. When I tried to copy that one name and paste it into a Writer file, nothing happened. I can probably accomplish the same thing by maintaining the list both in Evolution and in a Writer file--I was just hoping not to have to do Just a guess on a work around. When evolution encounters an exchange group (distribution list) in addressing, it expands that group when sending the email. So when sending to an exchange list evolution actually sends to the individual members of the group, not to the group address. Now, if it handles local lists the same way (and I don't know because I don't use local lists), you could copy the list membership from the resulting email. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Microsoft Exchange Server 2010
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 17:52 -0400, Suman Manjunath wrote: On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:49, Art Alexiona...@rhd.org wrote: ...will be released in November. Any idea whether the new evolution-mapi will continue to support exchange 2010? It should, since Exchange 2010 can talk to MAPI clients. More references: http://blogs.msdn.com/stephen_griffin/archive/2009/09/02/exchange-2010-and-the-mapi-download.aspx http://exchangeshare.wordpress.com/2009/05/03/exchange-2010-beta1-bunch-of-faqs-tips-known-issues/ Thanks, Suman. That is good to know. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Microsoft Exchange Server 2010
...will be released in November. Any idea whether the new evolution-mapi will continue to support exchange 2010? On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 06:25 -0400, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: I can't answer your main question, but the evolution-mapi plugin's main feature is its support of Exchange 2007. I'm using it daily myself for that purpose. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Email problem
If you are leaving the LTS why not run the current 9.04? -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Tue Sep 01 12:41:46 2009 Subject: [Evolution] Email problem I use Evolution under Ubuntu 8.04. Yesterday I upgraded to Ubuntu 8.10. Since then Evolution has not displayed any new email. It says it receives new email, but does not display it. I have successfully sent email, but it does not show up in the sent items folder. I checked via webmail. I renamed the .evolution folder and created a new one. Setup the email account and was able to recieve email. The sent items folder displays emails that I have sent. So how do I get the mail from the old evolution folder into the new one? Ray ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend
Thanks for the explanation, Matthew. From reading your article, it appears that the major difference for end users will be that developers will be better able to fix bugs. This alone is cause for great anticipation. Will there also be performance gains? -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: Robert Seward rsew...@bluestone-consulting.com Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wed Aug 26 17:58:54 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Merging kill-bonobo this weekend On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 17:55 -0400, Robert Seward wrote: This is a silly question.. What are the advantages of removing bonobo as a dependency for Evolution? See http://mbarnes.livejournal.com/2606.html Matthew Barnes ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] GAL lookups inaccurate
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 06:53 -0400, jack pack wrote: Evo 2.26.1 evolution-exchange 2.26.0-0ubuntu3 Recently (last couple of months) addressing of Distribution Groups from GAL/AD is producing incomplete lists of group members. If I ignore autocomplete and type the entire dist. group email address, everything is OK. Sometimes the autocomplete dropdown offers two versions of an distribution group's email address, one that seems to be resolving to the group's address, and another that resolves to a list of the group members. The former works, the latter is an incomplete list of members. Is this a known regression or a problem with my installation? Nothing has changed in AD that I know of. Work-arounds or configuration suggestions? -- Art Alexion There is a bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521956 with this symptoms. I updated the bug. Looks like it was misdiagnosed by Justin. Also looks like you are a subscriber, so you will get my update. I am also looking for a workaround. Temporary work-around is simple. Create a personal contact with the list address only and use that contact. Exchange, rather than evo, will handle the distribution to list members and it will work. Evolution will activate the auto-complete drop-down, and both the contact and the AD distribution group will be presented. Make sure you select the contact. You can identify it because it will show the list address in the drop-down, whereas the GAL lookup will show the truncated list. -- Art Alexion MIS ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Verizon email and Evolution.
Yes. What do you need specifically? -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development (sent from my cell phone) - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Thu Aug 20 00:43:32 2009 Subject: [Evolution] Verizon email and Evolution. Hi folks, I recently switched from Windows XP to Ubuntu. I'm trying to configure Evolution to send and receive through Verizon. Anyone else managed to get this to work? Thanks, Steve ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Palm data inegration between Palm Desktop for Windowsand Evolution
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 21:25 -0400, Alex wrote: I am running a dual boot WinXP and Debian 5 laptop and want full integration / sharing of data across both platforms. I already share Thunderbird (Windows) and Icedove (Debian) data from a common directory and would like to do the same using Palm Desktop for Windows and Evolution. Is there some way this can be done using Evolution or is there another Linux application that would serve me better? You could probably use Evolution for both. A caveat, though, is that the windows version of Evolution tends to lag some versions behind the version in the more current Linux distros. I am not sure this would cause a problem, but even though the mbox format is consistent through the versions, the indexing has changed. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Some images are not viewable, but others are.
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 19:52 -0400, John Teixido wrote: Some images are not viewable, but others are. Your message reads like a fortune cookie. Very Zen. Perhaps you could provide some useful details. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Contact getting dropped off on reply-to-all
On Sun, 2009-07-26 at 19:59 -0400, 102 wrote: Everytime I send a reply-to-all message with a specific contacts details in it, that contact is being dropped from the CC list. I've already removed the contact completely from my contacts list to see if that fixes it but the problem still happens. All of the other contacts in the CC line remain correctly, just this one. Any thoughts? I have a similar problem that started a few months ago with certain distribution group addresses from an exchantge global address list. With certain addresses, autofill inserts a few, but not all, of the member addresses. If I type the full distribution group email address and ignore autofill, the message is sent correctly. Is your problem like this? This was not a problem in the past. Evo 2.26.1 Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bit) -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] GAL lookups inaccurate
Evo 2.26.1 evolution-exchange 2.26.0-0ubuntu3 Recently (last couple of months) addressing of Distribution Groups from GAL/AD is producing incomplete lists of group members. If I ignore autocomplete and type the entire dist. group email address, everything is OK. Sometimes the autocomplete dropdown offers two versions of an distribution group's email address, one that seems to be resolving to the group's address, and another that resolves to a list of the group members. The former works, the latter is an incomplete list of members. Is this a known regression or a problem with my installation? Nothing has changed in AD that I know of. Work-arounds or configuration suggestions? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] suggest
On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 11:44 -0400, David L wrote: My original half-serious joke was pretty funny... was that if there is a need to perform some operation frequently in a GUI application (like deleting indexes), it is more user friendly to have support for doing the operation built in to the application. Yes, people can read the mailing list and bug reports and find your script and run it. Having some automated thing either built into the app, or as a separate menu item would be an improvement, but with users, with advanced degrees, who ask questions like Can someone help me? I seem to have had my trial balance icon removed from my desktop. there is no way I can deploy evolution to regular computer users. If an accountant with more than a decade of computer use can't grasp the concept of a desktop icon, they aren't going to fare well with a PIM that is constantly mis-displaying its state. (The last quote is actually the last email I read before I got David's response. It is typical.) -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 IT, the last refuge of a scoundrel ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] suggest
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 19:02 -0400, David L wrote: Since we have an exchange server, from scratch is basically the same thing as deleting my indexes. It takes me about 30 seconds to set up evolution for a blank account to connect to my exchange server and about an hour to regenerate the indexes for all of the mail in my exchange folders. But you're right, I don't start have to start completely from scratch. It just feels that way. I don't set up a new account; I just delete the indexes with a script. It is a really basic script, that I have posted before. I can send it to you if you want. When I restart evo, it takes about 10-15 minutes to rebuild the indexes. I have about 6000 item in my inbox and maybe a dozen other folders. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] using skype
Touche -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: Patrick O'Callaghan p...@usb.ve Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon May 25 10:00:20 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] using skype There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free software. Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? --tml ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] using skype
Kontact has buttons to dial sms from the contact (kaddressbook) part. It is do-able. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: Tor Lillqvist t...@iki.fi Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon May 25 10:27:33 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] using skype On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 17:00 +0300, Tor Lillqvist wrote: There is *no* chance of Evo doing anything special to support non-free software. Yeah, like Exchange or GroupWise? Good point. What I should have said is that IMHO Evo is not going to implement a special Skype button. What is more conceivable, if there were sufficient demand, is a general-purpose Phone this contact button, which the user could set up to use whatever VOIP app he preferred. I've no idea how practical this is (e.g. how many of the VOIP apps allow you to specify the phone number from the command line or via a DBUS message?) poc ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] suggest
Funny, but I doubt, accurate. I have to delete my indexes every few days to display all messages in a folder, and evo rarely displays an accurate unread count. This makes it impossible to deploy evo beyond the IT department. But I never have to back up and start from scratch. And if I did have to start from scratch, I'd be wary of restoring from a backup that may contain the nasty problem. What evo version is Novell now distributing with SLED? Is it fairly stable the way 2.6 was with SLED 10.1? -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com Cc: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Mon May 25 13:04:46 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] suggest On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Milan Crha mc...@redhat.com wrote: On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 15:26 -0300, Bruno Trazzini wrote: I suggest adding a button to reset all settings, because even deleting the folder .evolution some settings remain active. Hi, I do not expect anyone doing that, I'm sorry. Rather see where all the settings are stored, and delete them yourself: http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_transfer_all_my_Evolution_data_from_an_old_home_directory_to_a_new_home_directory.3F How about a command-line evolution --backup-and-start-from-scratch-because-evolution-has-several-longstanding-bugs-that-require-me-to-do-it-every-other-day? ;) Cheers... David ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] switching from kmail to evolution
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:08 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 22:54 +0200, Alain Muls wrote: I switched a couple of days ago from KDE to gnome. th amain reason was the ability of evolution to read/write google calendars. Some questions: - how can I navigate from a new message in a folder to the next unread message in another folder No idea, but you can set up a virtual folder of all unread messages. ] = next unread [ = previous unread They cycle through the folder, but not to the next unread in another folder. I don't know if there is any way to configure this. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 IT, the last refuge of a scoundrel ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] switching from kmail to evolution
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 09:08 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: - can I sent a message to a specific folder in stead of the Sent folder? You can specify for each account where you want all sent messages to go, but not directly on a case-by-case basis. You might also be able to use output filters and automatic BCC, depending on your exact needs. For example, I use the inbox as my sent folder in order to keep threads together and obsolete sent messages from piling up. Unlike in kmail, you cannot configure this on a per-folder basis, only on a per-account basis, as Patric As a kmail and evolution user, I can tell you that you will find different things to like better in each. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 IT, the last refuge of a scoundrel ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Exchange/LDAP lookups causing program freeze
Evo 2.26.1 evolution-exchange OWA protocol Ubuntu Jaunty (9.04) Since upgrading, entering addresses causes evolution to lock up about 50% of the time. Occasionally, the entire desktop locks up with only ctrl+alt+backspace getting me out. I tried turning off lookups from the local addressbook. I really can't do without the GAL or Exchange Contacts lookups. Is this a problem with this version or individual to me? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Checking with list before making a feature request.
Note to the developers: I find this behavior of the folder list annoying as well and wish it would go away. I get the trap with]. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wed May 06 18:28:32 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Checking with list before making a feature request. On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 16:42 -0400, William Case wrote: ctl-[ moves focus from selected folder in Folder List to first unread message in Message List. ctl-] moves focus to first (or next) folder flagged with 1 or more unread message(s) in the Folder List. The inbox folder would be an exception or counted as the last folder. Interesting, but I think it would be better for matching keys to have matching functions (forward/back). In fact I dislike the (existing) notion of the Folder List having focus at all. The only point of it is to allow folder selection using the keyboard, but since this is something I never use (not just hardly ever but literally *never*) I find it a waste of cognitive space. Furthermore it occasionally traps me when I hit . and find a ridiculous text box waiting for me to type more characters of the folder name[1]. poc [1] Ridiculous for two reasons: a) I'm not sure it's even possible for a folder name to begin with a . on an IMAP server, and b) even it it's possible, none of my folders start with . so what's it waiting for? (In fact this makes the whole text-box folder selection thing a crock even apart from the . issue.) I'm afraid I have strong feelings about this rather trivial point because I've been complaining it since Evo 2.0 in 2004 (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=268644). ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help!
Why would you install 8.10? The current version is 9.04, and the long term support release is 8.04. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wed Apr 29 22:28:10 2009 Subject: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help! I presently run Fedora Core2 and Evo 1.4.6. Yeah, I know :-) I am about to sketch out a strategy for upgrading to (32-bit) Ubuntu 8.10, which includes Evo 2.24.3, although what with the rather aggressive nature of the synaptic package manager, I will doubtless be involuntarily upgraded to a slightly later version within hours of installing. I have cruised out through the Web and read any number of FAQs and docs. It has given me the impression that Evo doesn't expect anyone to upgrade Evo versions, because every migration discussion I've seen refers to importing address books, folders, folder rules, and existing messages, from just about any other package out there *except* Evo. In playing with the trial installation on another box, I've verified that Evo doesn't recognize importing of those elements from previous Evo versions. This seems just a trifle odd :-) Obviously I am missing something. I need to pursue this before I launch the upgrade, because I have a large investment of time in all of the mentioned elements, and have no desire to have to recreate them manually from scratch. I am confident that there is a way for me to preserve my Evo 1.4.6 Contacts, Folders Filters, and the thousands of existing messages hanging around in those folders, and subsequently pass all of that data to my new Evo 2.24.3 (or whatever synaptic has it up to by then). But I cannot find documentation which demonstrates how to accomplish this. Can anyone point me to an appropriate resource? Thanks, Brewster Gillett -- ** Laws are like cobwebs, for if any trifling or powerless thing falls into them, they hold it fast, but if a thing of any size falls into them, it breaks the mesh and escapes. Anacharsis, 6th Century B.C. Scythian ** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA ** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. ** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help!
Lastly, when you say upgrade, are you seriously considering trying to install a relatively new Debian based distro on top of a very old rpm based distro? If so, I predict nightmares, an unbootable system and data loss. If you just mean that you are going to replace the system and are planning routes for data migration, then I would not seriously expect a smooth path. If you can, upload important mail to an imap server and retrieve it from there on your installation. I'd go the csv route for contacts. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Thu Apr 30 05:24:19 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help! In playing with the trial installation on another box, I've verified that Evo doesn't recognize importing of those elements from previous Evo versions. Not exactly true. When upgrading, Evo will upgrade data from previous versions if necessary. However I fear that what you are trying to do (upgrade 1.x to 2.24) is just too disparate. There was a big change in the data structures from 1.x to 2.x and early versions of 2.x managed the upgrade without any problems - and subsequent upgrades of 2.x to 2.y also worked. They worked seamlessly, that's probably why you haven't found anything about it on the net. BTW, I know this to be true because I've been upgrading Evo since before 1.4 and am now on 2.26. I would have thought as well that you are going to have problems with other things trying to upgrade from FC2 to Ubuntu 8.10 - not only is it a big upgrade in terms of time difference, but it's also a difficult upgrade in going across distros. A few other comments - why are you going to Ubuntu 8.10, why not the most recent version? Also, and probably more importantly, if you are in the habit of keeping an installation for a long time, why use a distro that has a short lifetime (like Fedora or Ubuntu8.10), you would be better off using a long term distro like CentOS or which ever Ubuntu it was that had long support - at least then you will keep up to date with security updates and have a reasonable chance of having versions that aren't woefully out of date! P. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help!
8.04 is the LTS release. 8.10 is 1/3 of the way through its 18 month support cycle, superseded by the current 9.04. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Thu Apr 30 08:50:23 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] migration strategies - Help! On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 03:19, Art Alexion wrote: Why would you install 8.10? The current version is 9.04, and the long term support release is 8.04. bg: According to what I thought I saw when I first visited the Ubuntu site a few weeks ago, 8.10 was listed as the latest LTS release. It's also what an Ubuntu-experienced friend recommended. Brewster -- ** Throughout recorded history, without exception, it has been the sole accomplishment of organized government to deprive their populations of their Liberty and of their Property. --John C. Calhoun ** ** W. Brewster Gillett b...@fdi.usPortland, OR USA ** Simply because you don't like to hear it, that doesn't make it untrue. ** ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] migration/alexion
On Thu, 2009-04-30 at 09:04 -0400, bg wrote: Sounds like some good strategies. A question, though; in looking through all the operating elements of my 1.4 Evo, I don't see that it offers any export choices - what do I do to get the Contacts saved as a .csv file? Would that be a command line sequence outside of Evo? Sorry, prior to starting again with 2.6, I last used 1.x when it was Ximian and on Red Hat 7.3 I have no recollection of the commands or menus at this point. -- Art Alexion MIS x3075 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Exchange on Ubuntu Jaunty
Thanks Suman. A couple of follow up questions. Our server is 2003. Do the two connectors function in such a way that I can try the MAPI connector, but switch back to OWA when needed, i.e., are they activated and deactivated like plug ins? Our domain controller/GAL server is behind our firewall. Browser access to OWA allows GAL look ups over the Internet from remote locations. Evo-OWA allows look ups over the LAN only; not from the other side of the firewall. Will evo-mapi facilitate GAL look ups remotely? That is currently my main reason for wanting to try the MAPI connector. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org evolution-list-boun...@gnome.org To: evolution-list@gnome.org evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Tue Apr 28 07:34:55 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Exchange on Ubuntu Jaunty On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 19:03, Art Alexion a...@rhd.org wrote: I'd like to upgrade my production machine, but am concerned about either the stability and functionality of the mapi connector, or the continued availability of the OWA-based connector. I really can't afford for this to be an experimental system. The MAPI connector does _not_ have feature parity with the OWA connector. http://www.go-evolution.org/MAPIProvider/vsOWA might be handy. The OWA connector should provide all the functionality it used to provide earlier. It is not deprecated yet and should still be bundled with all major distributions alongside evolution-mapi. If your exchange server is not exchange 2007 or newer, the OWA connector should perform better than the MAPI connector. Although, it'd be awesome if evolution-mapi gets a lot of testing :-) -Suman ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution-Exchange on Ubuntu Jaunty
I'd like to upgrade my production machine, but am concerned about either the stability and functionality of the mapi connector, or the continued availability of the OWA-based connector. I really can't afford for this to be an experimental system. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Send/Receive greyed out
I have a user with Evolution on a laptop, not currently in the office. She is reasonably tech-savvy, but not familiar with the command line or file system data structures. She is using the evolution-exchange backend on Ubuntu Hardy (I don't have a hardy installation here so that I can check out the evo version.) It is not retrieving mail and the Send/Receive button is greyed. Any ideas I could send to her so that she gets it working this week while away? -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Set folders trash and junk/spam manually
On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 06:41 -0400, Oliver Horn wrote: Well, why is evolution not able to subscribe to this folders as the mail server provides them and is instead creating virtual ones? Thunderbird for instance can do that. In fact, Evolution can do that as well when using the evolution-exchange protocol. What I can't help you with is how to force that with IMAP. -- Art Alexion Resources for Human Development, Inc. 215-951-0300 x3075 4700 Wissahickon Ave. a...@rhd.org Philadelphia, PA 19144 267-615-3172 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution release and major regressions, a longtime user's thoughts
I understand agree with your point. -- Art Alexion MIS/Central Office Support Resources for Human Development - Original Message - From: Andrew Montalenti a...@pixelmonkey.org To: Art Alexion Cc: evolution-list evolution-list@gnome.org Sent: Wed Apr 08 23:47:26 2009 Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution release and major regressions,a longtime user's thoughts Art, one clarification: On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 17:15 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: And that is precisely the problem. N+1 is appropriate for Debian Experimental, but not for Debian Stable. Ubuntu doesn't have those designations, and when a new version of the distro is released, it is released with the implication that it is stable. The thing is, Evolution 2.26 is N for the GNOME community right now, and 2.24 was N at the time Intrepid was released (making 2.22 == N-1 at the time of Intrepid's release). Ubuntu should have cherry-picked 2.22, but since it was N for GNOME, it was N for Ubuntu :-D (Hope that isn't confusing!) Andrew ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
