[Evolution] Evolution 2.0.2 hangs after downloading 2 emails
TWIMC: I just upgraded to Evolution 2.0.2 as part of the latest RedHat Enterprise Linux. It seemed to import my emails and server settings OK from v. 1.0.8 (supplied with Red Hat 8). Everything works fine except when I go to my POP server to download email, I get always exactly 2 emails, regardless of size, then it hangs forever on the third one. I click cancel and hit F9 and get 2 more. I can get all of my emails this way, and I can view them on the server with web mail, so there doesn't seem to be a problem with the server. There is no relevant length restriction. Any ideas? Thanks, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.0.2 hangs after downloading 2 emails
TWIMC, I posted the problem described below a couple of days ago. With the help of a suggestion from Sam Coker, the problem was resolved by checking the box "Disable support for all POP3 extensions" in the Receiving Options screen for my account setup, quitting and restarting Evolution. I'm just posting this in case it might help somebody else. Two questions: (1) What exactly was I turning off with this option? (2) Should I post this as bug to the developers? If so, how and where? Thanks, George Reeke On Wed, 2005-09-14 at 20:01 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > hi george, > > Am Mittwoch, den 14.09.2005, 11:43 -0400 schrieb George Reeke: > > TWIMC: > >I just upgraded to Evolution 2.0.2 as part of the latest > > RedHat Enterprise Linux. It seemed to import my emails and > > server settings OK from v. 1.0.8 (supplied with Red Hat 8). > > whou, migrating by leaving out two major release cycles (1.2 and 1.4) > has not been pretty much tested, i guess. :-/ > > >Everything works fine except when I go to my POP server to > > download email, I get always exactly 2 emails, regardless of > > size, then it hangs forever on the third one. I click cancel > > and hit F9 and get 2 more. I can get all of my emails this way, > > and I can view them on the server with web mail, so there > > doesn't seem to be a problem with the server. There is no > > relevant length restriction. > >Any ideas? > > i've never heard of something similar... > you can find information on setting environment > variables to debug evolution at > <http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/bugs.shtml>, e.g. > CAMEL_DEBUG=all > should give you a log when sending and receiving mails. > perhaps a server bug, we'll see... > > [fyi: 2.0.4 is the latest version of the 2.0.x series.] > > cheers, > andre > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keeping states
Dear Jeff and list, If you put this in evolution, please make it configurable (on/off). I just hate it when files come up where I left them last time, I am usually doing something different the next time and would rather start at the top. Thanks, George Reeke On Mon, 2005-10-24 at 11:44 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > In Evolution 1.x, the folder-tree pane used to act like a notebook tab > and switching folders just created a new search/list/view widget, hide > the old one, and showed the new. > ---details clipped-- > > I don't think I saved state for the scroll position of the message, > though... shame on me. > > Anyways, feel free to submit a bug - it should work better than it does, > I agree. > > Jeff > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images
We are using Evolution 2.0.2 as distributed with CentOS. When forwarding an email with embedded image(s), the recipient does not get the images, only the text. Is there a setting to allow the images to be forwarded? Is this fixed in later versions of Evolution? If neither, I will be happy to submit a bug report. Thanks, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images
Re the problem I reported on Friday forwarding mail with embedded images (original posting below): It works fine in 2.0.2 if one uses "Forward As-->Attached". It doesn't seem to me that this should be necessary. If someone knows how this is handled in later versions, please let me know. Thanks, George Reeke My previous Message Subject: [Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:48:19 -0500 We are using Evolution 2.0.2 as distributed with CentOS. When forwarding an email with embedded image(s), the recipient does not get the images, only the text. Is there a setting to allow the images to be forwarded? Is this fixed in later versions of Evolution? If neither, I will be happy to submit a bug report. Thanks, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images
Dear Guenther and list, The problem with forwarding mail as an attachment is that you don't get to edit it. This is unacceptable when dealing with personal matters and so I do not want it to be my default. This may be a feature that is needed in a business environment, but not for personal use. Similarly with not being able to edit a message before saving it (for example, to delete long included threads or other attachments as a previous poster requested). So I do hope the developers will provide a way to allow Evo to be configured to permit editing of emails before storing and/or forwarding (I was told in an earlier post that all forwarding would be as an attachment in future versions). If necessary for business users, it would be reasonable to have this option under root control. George On Sat, 2005-11-12 at 19:38 +0100, guenther wrote: > > Re the problem I reported on Friday forwarding mail > > with embedded images (original posting below): > >It works fine in 2.0.2 if one uses "Forward As-->Attached". > > It doesn't seem to me that this should be necessary. > > Preferences / Composer Preferences / General / Forward style: Attachment > > Set this to default, and you won't have to manually select it. > > ...guenther > > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forwarding mail with embedded images
Dear Guenther and list (my original mail and your reply edited for length) On Wed, 2005-11-16 at 13:06 +0100, guenther wrote: [The part with two > > is from my original posting, GNR] > > Dear Guenther and list, > >The problem with forwarding mail as an attachment is that > > you don't get to edit it. This is unacceptable when dealing > > with personal matters and so I do not want it to be my default. > IHMO a mail is a document and may not be edited when forwarding. > Forwarding means, I am sending the mail as is, including the headers > (and thus the original author). Well, as you say, that's your opinion. Without going into a long discourse on the nature of my correspondence, I just would say that I don't think it is the business of the system developers to dictate what I do and do not want to forward from one friend or colleague to another. I very often want to forward an attachment without the text that came with it. That is forbidden by your view of the world. I already agreed that there may be situations in a business environment where that is the necessary way to handle forwarding, and that is why I said that it's fine with me if the option requires a root password to change it. But it should be there. > If you want to edit the mails content, you may just as well Reply and > change the recipient. Thank you, I hadn't thought of that. > > Similarly with not being able to > > edit a message before saving it (for example, to delete long > > included threads or other attachments as a previous poster > > requested). > > Not sure if I understand what you mean. But if you really do save a > mail, please note that you save a *mail*. Including headers and stuff. > Saving the mails contents is not saving a mail. What I meant is just what I said: I want to be able to edit an incoming mail, then save. These edits typically would consist of (1) deleting attachments that I already have saved in some other appropriate directory. In my situation, these may be multimegabyte documents that I really don't need multiple copies of, (2) adding a note as to what action I took in response to this mail, for example, a phone call, or (3) deleting inclusions of threads where I have already saved the original posting, (4) deleting html copies of information that is perfectly good as plain text. I appreciate very much that this would not be legal record of what I received, and I would never pretend that it was. But just what is Evo protecting by forbidding this kind of editing? Obviously, one can go into one's mail archive with emacs and accomplish the same thing--it's just a hell of lot less convenient. I would be very happy to be given a choice here also, possibly that could be disabled by a root administrator. Your way "save mail" and my way "save edited mail" as menu choices would be just fine. > The same goes with "removing attachments from a mail in my folder", > which was discussed quite often in the past. This alters the mail and > thus is not what the sender intended it to be. I'm interested in what I want to save on my machine. I don't expect to get sued if I delete somebody's duplicate attachment. What if I delete the entire mail--that is not what the sender intended it to be either, but I presume you are not suggesting I should have to save everything I receive. (But I'd be happy to be able to do it before saving, not necessarily after it's in a folder.) > >So I do hope the developers will provide a way to allow Evo > > to be configured to permit editing of emails before storing and/or > > forwarding (I was told in an earlier post that all forwarding > > would be as an attachment in future versions). > "Editing a mail before saving" would need Evo to be some kind of a > general purpose mail format editor, which it is not (currently). This > would require quite a lot of new code and a new UI. Don't hold your > breathe for this one, but feel free to file it as a feature request in > bugzilla. OK. Since I can already do it when replying, this would not seem to be all that hard. > > Note, all above is my personal, not so humble opinion. Feel free to have > your own. Right-o. > ...guenther George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Where Sent replies gets filed
Long ago, in the days of bitnet, we had a mail client that filed sent replies in the same folder where the email it was a reply to was filed (in those days it was taken directly from the From address, now it would need to involve a mailing list lookup with a default to "Sent" if not found there). I loved that, but no mail client I have used since SMTP came in could do that. Is there already a way to set that up with Evo that someone could point me to? If not, are there others who would like such a thing? If so, I will file a request for a new feature. George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Keyboard Navigation Specification
Dear evolution folks, The keyboard spec is good to have. Even better would be to provide a way that users can program the keyboard shortcuts as they like. If someone can tell me where the wish list is, I'll go look and add this idea if not there already. Thanks, George Reeke On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 13:10 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 14:12 +, Calum Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2005-12-23 at 11:56 +0800, Nancy Cai wrote: > > > hi. > > > > > > I have finished the evolution keyboard navigation specification. > > > > > > You can visit the page at: > > > http://go-evolution.org/Evolution_Keyboard_Navigation_Specification for > > > details. > > clipped ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Keyboard Navigation Specification
Dear Guenther, I couldn't find it, so filed as new "bug" 326886. (Curiously, the "UI" item on the category menu says "do not use" so I filed it under "miscellaneous") G. Reeke On Fri, 2006-01-13 at 19:00 +0100, guenther wrote: > >The keyboard spec is good to have. > >Even better would be to provide a way that users can program > > the keyboard shortcuts as they like. > >If someone can tell me where the wish list is, I'll go look > > and add this idea if not there already. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org Product=Evolution > > The "wish list" is in there, too. Should be Severity=Enhancement, or > something along those lines. Some feature request might be considered > low priority bugs... > > Anyway, I'm pretty sure this one is filed already. Dunno though, so feel > free to search bugzilla and file it, if you really can't find it. :) > > ...guenther > > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Restore deleted address book
Dear List, This is probably an old question, but I can't find it in the archives: Attempting to fix some other problem, I wiped out a user's .evolution directory and started them off fresh except for restoring their mail folders. Other problem solved, but address book gone. I have a full backup of everything on the machine. What files do I need to restore to get just the address book (contact list) back without changing anything else? Thanks George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Restore deleted address book
Dear List and Guenther, On Fri, 2006-01-27 at 01:15 +0100, guenther wrote: > On Thu, 2006-01-26 at 18:59 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > Dear Guenther, > >Thanks. I'm not sure why I couldn't find your posting with > > the search on the gnome archives, but let's forget that for now. > > The damn archive search on mail.gnome.org simply is broken (read: it > does not work at all). *sigh* To search the mailing lists I recommend > using Google and adding this to any search: > > evolution site:mail.gnome.org > Thanks, I'll do this next time. > > >Yes, there was just one address book. > >Greg Tassone yesterday suggested just restoring the contents of > > ~/.evolution/addressbook from the backup. I did this and everything > > is OK now. I think in my simpler situation this gave the same end > > result as your procedure. > > Greg's suggestion was pretty fine, and I'm glad it already solved the > issue for you. He just forgot to mention the bit about kicking e-d-s, > since it holds the data in memory. Other than that, Greg's post is > entirely correct. :-) Well, I exited from gnome to a console prompt and did it there. Now I'm curious? Did I kill e-d-s etc. by exiting from the gui environment, or is that not enough? (I may have rebooted after the restore, I don't remember). Frankly, I'd be more comfortable (in the future with this sort of thing) just getting out of gnome than having to remember or look up which processes to kill, especially since I read on the list that this changes in different releases. I'd appreciate your further insights in this matter. All the best, George Reeke > > > >[I'm not posting this to the list because I think case is closed.] > > And I'm Cc'ing the list, since we are talking about issues everyone > subscribed should know. :) Hope you don't mind. > > ...guenther > > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
Dear list, One person's "not useful" is another person's "essential." The answer is to make the toolbar configurable, as I have requested in an earlier posting and have filed on the official feature-request list. Developers: I hope you are listening. I am one of those who consider "Move" and "Copy" essential, but would gladly get rid of those unlabelled buttons like the one that looks like a box of Kleenex that does who-knows-what. Cheers, George Reeke On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 00:38 -0700, P Sankar wrote: > To move mails, you can drag-and-drop. So the icon was not considered > useful. > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
Dr. Mr. Smith and list, Well, when I click on "Move", a list of my mail folders pops up. I scroll to the one I want, then click it and the selected mail moves there. If it's the same as the one I used last time, it is already selected. If I were to drag and drop, where would I drag to? There is no destination folder list. It certainly would not be intuitive to use the "On This Computer" list at the left: I don't want to move to the destination folder, which is what happens if I click there. Besides, even if that is what I am supposed to do, I don't feel very comfortable scrolling while dragging and maybe dropping the drag at the wrong place. And don't I have to click on the scroll bar to scroll? Or am I supposed to scroll until the destination folder is visible on the list, then drag there (moving the mouse back and forth twice instead of once). That seems sort of backwards to me. So, you see, the Move button is much more intuitive. Anyway, I choose never to use drag and drop for anything. This came from some bad experiences in that other operating system, when it was never clear whether drop meant move or meant copy. I find it better never to use it at all than always to be unsure about this distinction. Am I supposed to use Ctrl-click to copy or is it the other way around? Maybe this has been standardized now, but I have habits that work for me. Paul, this is not directed at you personally (you just asked a question, which I tried to answer), but I would like to take this opportunity to say this: I wish everybody would stop trying to tell everybody else how to use their computers. Call me whatever you want, I believe this is a legitimate choice for me. I am used to it, it works, it is simple, it doesn't hurt anything, so why should it arbitrarily be taken away? Others are welcome to drag and drop if that works for them, I really don't care. I also realize developers cannot add every gizmo that anybody ever asks for, but in this case we are talking about taking away a gizmo that has always been there. Presumably, it took some active work to remove it. (BTW, I do know what the kleenex box does, I was being a little rhetorical in my original post, so please don't bother explaining it to me.) Sincerely George Reeke On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 11:40 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > %% George Reeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > gr> One person's "not useful" is another person's "essential." The > gr> answer is to make the toolbar configurable, as I have requested in > gr> an earlier posting and have filed on the official feature-request > gr> list. Developers: I hope you are listening. I am one of those > gr> who consider "Move" and "Copy" essential, but would gladly get rid > gr> of those unlabelled buttons like the one that looks like a box of > gr> Kleenex that does who-knows-what. > > I don't disagree with what you're saying about configurability. > However, I am curious as to why drag-n-drop doesn't meet your needs, > such that a "Move" button is considered essential. > > Cheers! > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
[An add-on to my posting of 3 April 11:26] One more question for the "drag-and-droppers": How do you create a new folder when dragging and dropping? Which leads me to make another suggestion to the developers [which I will post in the official place]: When clicking Move and then New, the new folder is created as a subfolder under the one currently selected, which is the last place something else was stored. This is not generally what is wanted. In my case, I have top-level folders "mail2002", etc. by year, and under those many dozens of folders for particular senders. So, when I create a new folder, I always want it to go under "mail2006", or whatever is the current year. Seems like the way to do this is to have a preference item "Default parent folder for new folders" or something like that. Best to all, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:07 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The dialog box lets you select where to create the new folder. > > poc I know. My point was that 99% of the time (for me anyway) it's the same place, so I'd like to have a default that would come up highlighted in the dialog box so I don't need to scroll to it every time. George Reeke ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:50 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:18 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:07 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > The dialog box lets you select where to create the new folder. > > > > > > poc > > > > I know. My point was that 99% of the time (for me anyway) > > it's the same place, so I'd like to have a default that would > > come up highlighted in the dialog box so I don't need to scroll > > to it every time. > > Alternatively, Evo could just remember where the last folder was created > and preselect it. Yes, that would be fine too. George Reeke > poc > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Command Line Options
Oded, You might look at the "expect" package, which allows you to simulate an interactive session. I believe it is based on the tcl/tk scripting language; it should be easy to find online. [Caveat: I haven't used it myself] George Reeke > > On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 06:32 +, Oded Rimon wrote: > > Hello! > > > > I print my daily calender entry in Evolution every day, and I thought - > > maybe this > > can be done through the command-line options, so I'll only have to put > > something > > like: > > evolution -c calender -p [printer] > > in the start-up scripts, and I'll have my daily schedule already printed > > while I'm > > having breakfast... > > Is this possible? > > > > Thank you, > > Oded R. > > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
Dear List, Here's my standard reply to many such issues: Users' Choice! When setting up a new account, you get to choose "Slow, accurate counts" vs "Fast, approximate counts". Then we don't need to argue over whether this strategy was a good idea. Regards, George Reeke On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 20:06 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 01:09 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 22:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > I'm speechless. Was this done because some IMAP servers were buggy? If > > > not, there would seem to be no justification for it. > > > > I believe it was done in order to fix inconsistencies in the unseen > > counts on folders when the strange client-side Junk processing isn't > > disabled. The Junk processing hides messages from a folder and pretends > > that those messages actually exist in some other fake folder. And thus > > the unseen counts in the real folder looked wrong, because some of the > > unseen messages were hidden from view. > > > > The simple option might have been to mark the messages as read when we > > decided they were junk. That wasn't what was done, though -- instead of > > just being able to ask the server "how many unseen messages are there in > > this folder" we now have to fetch the flags for _every_ mail in the > > folder and count the ones which are unseen but not 'junk'. > > Man, that's just... Messy. Instead of hiding them, what if a > new "subject pane" column "Junk" were created (kinda like > "Flagged!"). A Stored Search (nee Virtual Folder) would list > all the Junk. > > But would that also require re-fetching all mails? > > Or, just *really* move them to the Junk Folder? > > Or. disable Junk processing for IMAP Since I don't need > it, nobody needs it. > > > In fact we also download the _headers_ for every mail in every folder > > too. That's just a side-effect of the above, I think; there doesn't seem > > to be even a tenuous reason for that. > > > > > By "active" do you mean "subscribed"? > > > > That is the definition of 'subscribed' in the IMAP specification, yes. > > > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Long lines
I sometimes get an incoming email where each paragraph of the message is on one long line of text and therefore unreadable. I can reformat it by opening a REPLY window and then not send the reply, but this is sort of illogical and ugly. Is there any way to get Evolution to reformat the message in the preview window or the read window you get by double-clicking the message? Automatically when a line overflows would be nice... (I am stuck in v. 2.0.2 per RedHat EL, but if this feature has been added in later versions I'd still like to know about it. Otherwise, I will request it on the enhancements list.) Thanks, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Nit Pic -- Saving Sent messages in separate folders?
Dear List, I have wanted this for a long time too--in my case, I would prefer a global option that would store all sent mail in the folder of the person or list being replied to, if any, otherwise in the folder of the recipient, if known to the system, otherwise in Sent. Thanks, George Reeke On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 10:50 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi All; > > Looking for a Tip or Trick. > > I have 3 Personal sub-Folders (Clubs I am a member of). When I send a > new email or respond the message gets saved (of course) in the Sent > folder. However, I would also like those messages moved to or copied to > the appropriate club folder so that I have a complete thread of a > discussion. Up to now I have just been going to the Sent folder; > selecting the sent message and using the copy or move command to include > the message in the right folder. > > Is there a way to automate this? I've read the manual etc. but I could > not find any suggestions. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Nit Pic -- Saving Sent messages in separate folders?
Dear Kimmo and List, Doesn't the filter method mean I would have to enter a separate rule for each of the several hundred entries in my address book? I (and I assume William as well) am asking for a general rule that would file the outgoing mail according to the recipient without having to reprogram it for each new recipient. Am I missing something here? By the way, this came up a year or two ago and I think I filed a request for new feature at that time, but I don't remember for sure. This seems so obvious, I would think everybody would want it to work this way. Thanks, George Reeke On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 21:34 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: > On Mon, 2006-08-07 at 18:53 +0300, K. Elo wrote: > > Hi Goerg and William, > > > > have You tried filters for outgoing mails? > > > > Kind regards, > > Kimmo > > > > 2006-08-07 11:10 -0400, George Reeke: > > > Dear List, > > >I have wanted this for a long time too--in my case, I would prefer a > > > global option that would store all sent mail in the folder of the > > > person or list being replied to, if any, otherwise in the folder of > > > the recipient, if known to the system, otherwise in Sent. > > >Thanks, > > >George Reeke > > > > > > On Sat, 2006-08-05 at 10:50 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > Hi All; > > > > > > > > Looking for a Tip or Trick. > > > > > > > > I have 3 Personal sub-Folders (Clubs I am a member of). When I send a > > > > new email or respond the message gets saved (of course) in the Sent > > > > folder. However, I would also like those messages moved to or copied to > > > > the appropriate club folder so that I have a complete thread of a > > Try out vfolders. They can be used to collate information spread across > multiple folders/mailing list. > > > > > discussion. Up to now I have just been going to the Sent folder; > > > > selecting the sent message and using the copy or move command to include > > > > the message in the right folder. > > > > > > > > Is there a way to automate this? I've read the manual etc. but I could > > > > not find any suggestions. > > > > > > ___ > > > Evolution-list mailing list > > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution downloads POP3 inbox multiple times
Dear List, I don't know what UIDL extensions are, but I do know that a while back I had a problem with evolution hanging while downloading emails from a POP3 server, and the workaround I found (and published on this list) was to disable POP3 extensions. Nobody ever answered my question as to where I could find out what these mysterious extensions do or whether I would want them some day. I also have Rus's problem of multiple downloads when leaving mail on the server (which I do when traveling so I can download it to my regular computer when I get home). So my question for Andre is this: is the UIDL you are talking about one of the extensions I have to turn off to get my downloads to work at all? Thanks George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 2006-11-14 at 16:42 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > hi rus, > > Am Dienstag, den 14.11.2006, 13:36 + schrieb Rus Hughes: > > We have our own in house POP3 server and have noticed that Evolution > > users that choose to "Leave messages on server" end up downloading the > > entire of their inbox again when a new E-mail arrives and was wondering > > if something was up with our server, or whether it's a bug in Evolution? > > > > Any insight would be appreciated, all we can think of is it is because > > the order of the UIDL changes when the new E-mail arrives? > > There are several possible reasons when this happens: > * You have got several copies in your mailbox > * The mail server supports the UIDL extension yet changes the message > UIDs each session > * The mail server does not support UIDL (which means Evolution has to > generate UIDs using md5sums of the message headers) but the server > changes the message headers after download (usually adding a Status: or > X-Status: header - Evolution's md5sum ignores these, but Evolution may > be missing other headers that this particular server munges) > * ~/.evolution/mail/pop/cache-* files are not writable > > cheers, > andre > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] From address rewritten from inactive account
To the List, I am stuck at evolution 2.0.2 due to being on RedHat EL maintenance, so I thought I'd check whether this has already been fixed before posting a bug: I have a second account in my evolution setup which has the "Enabled" box unchecked at the moment. I am using POP3 to get mail, SMTP to send mail on both accounts. When I receive a mail from a third party which happens to include a cc to the user specified in that inactive account, and I compose and send a reply to that email, using "Reply" (I suppose "Reply To All" would behave the same way) then the From address in my reply is rewritten to the address in the cc [which happens to be identical to the address in the inactive account] and the mail is sent via the SMTP server shown in the inactive account. The "X-Evolution-Account" field is also written to the email address in the inactive account. The rewriting is visible in my Sent folder, so it is being done by evolution, not the SMTP server. I have done various control tests. If I send a new email to this third-party person (i.e. not a Reply), with or without a cc to the address named in the inactive account, the mail goes through without rewriting my From address. If I change the SMTP send server in the inactive account to one that I do not have credentials on, and do the reply as above, the mail is rejected. The problem does not occur with incoming mails with cc's to anyone other than the one address named in the inactive account. I really would rather not delete the inactive account, because I do turn it on from time to time (when away from my office), but that is the obvious workaround. Any other ideas? Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Word Wraping in Message Verticail Preview (Side-bySide)??
Just to add to this discussion, as one who also would like to see word wrap implemented in the preview window: I discovered that when an email comes in where the whole message is on one or a few long lines, I can hit the Reply button. This brings up a version that is word wrapped. I can read it, then cancel the reply. This is entirely illogical and I hope the developers will note that if they can wrap on a reply, they can certainly treat incoming the same way. Thanks, George Reeke On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 23:58 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 17:16 -0500, Saikat Guha wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 17:51 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > This is a FAQ and AFAIK you can't do it. The wrap boundary appears to > > > > > be > > > > > hardwired at 70 characters, which apparently is inscribed in some > > > > > standard or other. > > > > > > > > If it's a FAQ, can someone please tell me which "standard" this is? > > > > > > >From RFC-2822 (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2822.html): > > > > > > "2.1.1. Line Length Limits > > > > > >There are two limits that this standard places on the number of > > >characters in a line. Each line of characters MUST be no more than > > >998 characters, and SHOULD be no more than 78 characters, excluding > > >the CRLF." > > > > The RFC linked does NOT apply. From the RFC: > > > > 1.1. Scope > > ... > > Note: This standard is not intended to dictate the internal > > formats > > used by sites, the specific message system features that they are > > expected to support, or *any of the characteristics of user > > interface > > programs that create or read messages*. > > > > (emphasis added) > > > > There is nothing that requires a mailer to *display* messages > > hard-wrapped at n characters. The RFC linked only applies to > > messages on the wire so to speak. > > Fair enough. > > > Back to the OP's question: > > Why does evolution not have a re-wrap feature? > > I've no idea. I'm not a developer of Evo, but this question has been > asked before on the list and the answer has been along the lines I've > already mentioned (but evidently based on some other standards doc than > RFC-2822), thus my use of the terms "AFAIK" and "apparently". > > poc > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] multiple email accounts
Hello list, Anybody working on this, please see also my bug #385130: An account that is disabled isn't really totally disabled, its mere presence can affect the rewriting of "From" addresses when replying to mail received on the other, enabled, list. George Reeke On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 10:33 -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: > Thanks for the trick. I second this, we would need a location setting. > Is there an official wish list somewhere? > > nick > > > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 11:03 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 06:58 -0700, Nicolas Bock wrote: > > > Hello list, > > > > > > I have 2 email accounts set up in evolution. One is for work and the > > > other one is my private one. Because we have a firewall around work, I > > > can only access one account at any given time. Either the firewall > > > blocks the private email account when I am at work, or the firewall > > > prevents me from checking my work email when I am at home. When I go > > > online in evolution however, it tries to check both accounts which > > > obviously fails. But it takes evolution quite some time to figure this > > > out. Can I tell it to now check both accounts? Or can I take only one > > > account at a time online? Can I get evolution to check only one > > > account when I click on "Send/Receive"? > > > > Preferences->Mail Accounts->Enable/Disable (tick box). > > > > Of course what one really wants is a "location" setting, which would > > also change the default SMTP host etc. depending on whether you're at > > home or at the office. Something for the wish list. > > > > poc > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Where does Evolution get its mime-type handlers?
Dear Norm and List, I struggled with this for a long time. It seems that there are .desktop files that contain this information. The system-wide ones you can edit as root are in /usr/share/applications and the local ones (individual to each user) are in $HOME/.local/share/applications. If you google around you can find instructions on what goes in these files--I won't try to repeat it all here--or just follow the examples. You will also find information about a bunch of other kinds of files that keep this configuration information, but they seem to be irrelevant in RHEL 4.4 with evolution 2.0.2 (which is what you and I both have). Turns out there is an automatic way to get the information in that I didn't find out about right away because I don't use nautilus. But if you turn on nautilus, you can do this: Store a file of the type in question on your desktop, right click it, tell nautilus what application to use to open it, then nautilus will write the information in your $HOME/.local/share/applications and evolution will use it. Hope this helps, George Reeke On Thu, 2007-02-22 at 08:39 -0500, Norman P. B. Joseph wrote: > I'm running Evolution 2.0.2 under RHEL4, and I used to be able to see a > list of mime-type handlers when I'd click on the drop-down menu for > attachments embedded in the evolution message pane. For example, when a > Word doc was attached, the drop-down menu would include an option for > opening with Open Office, when a PDF file was attached, the menu would > include acroread, and when another email was attached, the menu would > include a list of text editors to open the attachments with. > > Now those options are gone. I only get "Save as..." as an option for > attached documents, and "Forward/Reply" as options for attached > messages. So I'm guessing somewhere a configuration file got trashed or > trampled at some point, but I can't seem to figure out where that > configuration is. Can anyone here point me in the right direction? > > I'm not currently subscribed to this list, so I'd appreciate being CC'd > on replies. > > Thanks for any pointers. > > -norm > > > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS
The temporary fix given in the link below does not work for those who have updated to firefox 2.0.x because the firefox 1.5.0.10 directory that the link points to does not exist. I hope a more general fix will be available soon. George Reeke On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 15:55 -0600, Jeff Dege wrote: > That did it, thanks. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Barnes > > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 3:49 PM > > To: evolution-list@gnome.org > > Subject: Re: [Evolution] camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS > > > > On Mon, 2007-02-26 at 15:39 -0600, Jeff Dege wrote: > > > I'm running Centos 4, have been for a year or more. > > > > > > Evolution has worked fine, all that time. > > > > > > This morning, Evolution worked fine. This afternoon, it suddenly > > > stopped. > > > > > > When I run it from the command line, I get: > > > > > >camel-WARNING **: Failed to initialize NSS > > > > > > I've seen only a few messages on the Web about this - some folks who > > > seem to be stumbling around in the dark. The oldest of > > them are from > > > January - apparently it's something fairly recent. > > > > > > Any ideas as to how to fix this? > > > > > > Not having access to my primary email account is a very big deal - I > > > need to get this fixed ASAP. > > > > > > Jeff, > > > > It was a blunder in a recent seamonkey update. > > > > See http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=229987 for a > > workaround until the problem is corrected. > > > > Matthew Barnes > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Low-contrast (dim) display of forwarded messages
Dear list members, My wife uses evolution email (details below) and all received forwarded mails appear in the preview window in very low contrast, such that they are almost unreadable. These are just ASCII text, not html. The surrounding text (the message by the sender who forwarded the mail, headers, signature, everything else on the desktop) looks normal. Anybody have any idea how to make these text inserts appear in the normal font or contrast level? (As always, before writing to this list I checked the archives, the gconf configuration editor, and did some googling and could not find a solution.) The problem does not occur with my similar setup on an older IBM laptop. Her setup is Evolution 2.0.2 under Centos 4.4 = RedHat EL 4 (old story--can't upgrade because of numerous library dependencies in RedHat). We have an NVIDIA 7900 series graphics card feeding a new Samsung 940 display via DVI if that matters. Thanks for any help, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Low-contrast (dim) display of forwarded messages
Dear Chris, Thanks, problem solved. G. Reeke On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 11:21 -0400, Chris Williams wrote: > Hi George, > > >My wife uses evolution email (details below) and all received > > forwarded mails appear in the preview window in very low contrast, > > such that they are almost unreadable. These are just ASCII text, > > not html. The surrounding text (the message by the sender who > > forwarded the mail, headers, signature, everything else on the > > desktop) looks normal. Anybody have any idea how to make these > > text inserts appear in the normal font or contrast level? > > Check Preferences -> Mail Preferences -> General -> Highlight quotations > with [] color. > > --chris ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to write in letters that have come in the In-Box
Dear Dinbandhu (and list), I brought up this same subject on this list a couple of years ago. I was told that this will never be put in evolution. It seems the developers have (had at that time?) a strong moral stance that one should not be able to edit incoming mail, but only preserve an exact copy of it. You can't even delete unwanted attachments easily. I surmise that this is because in certain corporate contexts, one might need unaltered copies for legal purposes. I consider that this position is ridiculous, because anybody who wants to alter an incoming email can do so with a text editor. So it is just a matter of convenience, not of principle. Those of us who would like to write notes to ourselves, who are not concerned with legal issues, should be able to do so. The proposal I made at the time, which I hoped would satisfy both kinds of users, was ignored. Let me suggest it again; I still think it is a good idea: Why not have a configuration option in evolution that could be changed only by the root user (at install time) that would either allow or disallow the editing of incoming mails? That way, those of us who administer our own systems could have this feature if we want it; those in organizations where software is centrally administered could be duly deprived of it. Naturally, this would apply to mail downloaded via POP3; I have no idea whether it is workable with IMAP. Any more discussion? George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 09:52 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote: > If someone could reply on this below point I would be very grateful. It > really has a lot of value and I need to know how to do it. Thanks! > > -- > > Is there a way in Evolution to write notes for myself in letters that > others have written to me? > > That is, letters that have come in to my in-box, can I write comments to > myself in them? For example, say someone has written a letter to me in > Spanish or some other language which is not my own. If there is a word > in their letter which I do not know and I look it up in the dictionary, > can I then write that definition into their letter as a note to myself? > That way, whenever I re-open their letter in the future to read it, I > will be able to see that I looked up the word and wrote its meaning > right there in the letter. > > So obviously, I do not refer to when one click's on "reply" to the > letter. But rather, being able to write right inside their letter > itself. > > Many thanks, > Swarup > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to write in letters that have come in the In-Box
On Fri, 2007-08-17 at 09:56 +0530, ritz wrote: > Hello > > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 21:34 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-16 at 21:11 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > I would support a facility for annotations (or memos if you prefer) as > > > long as it can be done in a cross-platform way. Rest of message clipped-- Memos and annotations won't do it. I want to be able to delete unwanted attachments, delete html copies of plain text email, delete earlier contributions to a thread that I have already stored in the same folder, etc. etc. I appreciate that this can only reasonably be done with downloaded emails ala POP3 as O'Callaghan already noted. Since having this facility is a key reason for continuing to use POP3, I respectfully disagree with those posters who believe the same facilities should be supported for all server protocols. George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10021 phone: (212)-327-7627 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How can I correct Evolution's list of available printers?
Dear colleagues, Can someone tell me where Evolution (on Linux and gnome) gets the list of printers it displays when you click the Print button--or more precisely, how to correct that information when it is incomplete? I have two RHEL 4 systems (stuck on Evo 2.0.2 I'm afraid, but hopefully this detail has not changed), both using cups printing (working in other applications). One Evo displays the available cups printers, the other does not--just the default "Generic Postscript" and "Create a PDF Document" printers. The only differences I can think of that might be relevant are that the system that works is 32-bit and the user does not run Nautilus, whereas the system that does not work is 64-bit SMP and the user does run Nautilus. The /etc/cups/cupsd.conf files have the same default Browse settings. Both have similar model HP LaserJets and other dissimilar printers. Sorry if this is a FAQ--I couldn't find the answer in the docs or by googling or by comparing files in /usr/share/libgnomeprint and users' .gnome, .gnome2, and .evolution. Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution -g +x+y ??
On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 12:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 11:08 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Hi Mathew; > > On Tue, 2008-06-17 at 10:25 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > > On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 12:43 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > > Is it possible to set the x and y geometry for evolution in gconf-editor > > > > or on the command line? > > [snip] > > > > Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I am trying to avoid > > > > using SCIM. > > > > > > I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Are you referring to > > > setting the initial screen coordinates of Evolution's main window, and > > > remembering it from session to session? > > > > > Yes. > > > > > Unfortunately each application has to implement this themselves. > > > Evolution currently stores its main window /dimensions/ and maximize > > > state, but not the screen coordinates. But they could easily be added. > > > > > Yes > > > Apologies if I misunderstood. I'm not sure how SCIM is related. > > > > > Neither am I. But that was the advice I was given a year or so ago. I > > looked at SCIM; didn't really understand it and didn't want to; but if > > it was applicable, it seemed like a lot of work just to get a window > > placement on first opening of Evolution. > > > > Without going into a long description of how I prefer to work with > > Evolution or why, every time I re-boot into Linux (or close and open > > Evolution) I have to move Evolution around on the screen to get it > > placed where I want. Since I use a tight fit, its a fair amount of > > dicking and nudging to get it exactly on the screen where I want it. > > All the other programs I have set to load at startup allow Xwindows > > geometry, or something, that lets me specify the exact screen position. > > > > Gconf.d keys, default mode, lets me set the window size and panel sizes > > but not the screen position. All my other applications allow me to > > pre-set their +x+y (pixel count screen position) coordinates. > > > > If there is no other way, should I make this a feature request? > > I always have Evo in the same position without doing anything special. > Maybe it depends on your desktop. I use KDE but I don't recall doing > anything in particular to set it up. > > poc Using gnome, I just put it where I want it, then log out after clicking the "Save current setup" button on the logout dialog. Now on every login, it comes back in the same place. (The position of the ULHC, but not the size, is preserved. Sounds like you already have a way to get the size you want, so maybe 1+1=2 here.) George Reeke > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Move/Copy buttons
TWIMC, (I know this has come up before--I've posted on it myself some time ago--but I can't find the answer after searching the archives for an hour, so I hope someone can help me...) I just updated from RedHat EL4 to EL5, which now gives me Evolution 2.12.3 instead of 2.0.x that I had before. So now the Move and Copy buttons are gone from what I guess is called the toolbar. In their places are Junk and NotJunk buttons that I don't want or use because spam is filtered by my server. Can someone just tell me if there is a place to configure these buttons in 2.12, if not with a tool, then where is the xml file that I can play with? Sample code to put back the Move button would be even nicer. Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Position of highlight in preview pane
TWIMC, I just upgraded from Evo 2.0.x to 2.12.3 (under RedHat EL5 smp). Now every time I download new mail (POP server), the highlighted line in the preview pane jumps to the first (oldest) item there. It used to go to the first of the new mails, or maybe the last old mail I viewed, I'm not sure which. The new behavior is useless and annoying. Is there any way to restore the previous behavior, (preferably, to make the highlight stay right where it was before the download)? (I looked in the help and the list archives with no luck-- lots of items about caret mode and the position of the cursor in a mail item, but I am talking about the list of mails at the top of the preview pane, not any particular mail item.) Thanks for any help, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Move/Copy buttons
Dear Scott (cc list), Thanks a million. I took out the Junk/NotJunk, put in the MessageMove and MessageCopy, and it works just as I hoped. Best regards, George Reeke On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 15:51 -0500, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > This is from an earlier email, > > > > I put this in between "MessageDelete" & "MessageMarkAsJunk", > > _label="Move" >pixtype="pixbuf"/> > > ...and the icon looks like it did in 2.4 (pixbuf must be where the theme > icons are??) > > > On Mon, 2006-05-29 at 11:40 -0500, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > > > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2006-April/msg0.html > > ========= > > > On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 16:09 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > TWIMC, > >(I know this has come up before--I've posted on it myself some time > > ago--but I can't find the answer after searching the archives for an > > hour, so I hope someone can help me...) > >I just updated from RedHat EL4 to EL5, which now gives me Evolution > > 2.12.3 instead of 2.0.x that I had before. So now the Move and Copy > > buttons are gone from what I guess is called the toolbar. In their > > places are Junk and NotJunk buttons that I don't want or use because > > spam is filtered by my server. > >Can someone just tell me if there is a place to configure these > > buttons in 2.12, if not with a tool, then where is the xml file > > that I can play with? Sample code to put back the Move button > > would be even nicer. > >Thanks, > > George Reeke, Ph.D. > > Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling > > The Rockefeller University > > 1230 York Avenue > > New York, NY 10065 > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Making notification box go away
Dear colleagues, [I have evol 2.12.3 on a RedHat EL 5 smp 64-bit system] Recently evolution started popping up a notification box when mail is received. I don't want this because I only get email by clicking the Send/Receive button. I read the archives but I still can't get rid of it. Long version: I ticked "Do not notify me when new mail arrives" in Mail Preferences (it was already ticked) and this did nothing. (The other two options also had no effect when tested.) I also ran the gconf (gnome configuration) editor and unticked "blink-status-icon" and "notification" in apps->evolution->mail-> notification, logged out and in again, and the next time I got mail, that box still popped up. I finally got rid of it by going in as root to /usr/libexec/evolution/2.12 and removing the executable bits from the program evolution-alarm-notify. But I doubt this is the approved way to do it. I saw an item in the archives to uncheck "Mail notification" and "New mail notification" in the Edit->Plugins menu, which I had not previously noticed. I did this and the notifications stopped. But after exiting evolution and starting it again, these boxes magically rechecked themselves. Now an icon appears on my screen when I get new mail, although without the big popup (presumably because of the executable bits I cleared). Checking with ps indicates this icon is probably /usr/libexec/notification-area-applet, which I hesitate to get rid of because it may be the mechanism that provides RedHat patch popups. Did I miss something somewhere? What is the official way to turn off this notification box? Why do none of the three preference options work? Is there a configuration file somewhere that I can edit manually to clean up some option that is SNAFU? Is this a bug in 2.12.3 or an ongoing problem? Developers: I will put in an enhancement request that all three ways to express this preference should actually work, unless somebody tells me it as already been fixed in later releases. (I cannot upgrade because of RedHat conflicts.) Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Making notification box go away
Dear Matthew et al., The first time I tried that, as I said, the unchecked boxes came back checked when I restarted. But I cannot reproduce that problem, and the notification is gone, so I guess end of story. Thanks for your help. George Reeke On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:42 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 14:04 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > >[I have evol 2.12.3 on a RedHat EL 5 smp 64-bit system] > >Recently evolution started popping up a notification box > > when mail is received. I don't want this because I only get > > email by clicking the Send/Receive button. > >I read the archives but I still can't get rid of it. > > 1. Edit -> Plugins > 2. Uncheck "Mail Notification". > 3. Restart Evolution, just to be sure. > > That should be all you need to do. If the "Mail Notification" plugin > re-enables itself on start up then that's a bug. > > Matthew Barnes > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] To address completion question
To the list, I am looking for a feature in evolution, independent of the autocompletion that uses the address book, that would automatically tack on "@myinstitution.edu" (i.e. a configurable domain) if a To: (or cc: or bcc:) address as typed does not contain "@". (I don't really want to add all the hundreds of people I might write to some day to my address book, nor is there a simple way to do so if I did want to.). I don't see this in the docs or archives. Before I put it on the feature-requested list, I was just wondering whether there is already a way to do this. (I am at evolution 2.12.3 due to using RedHat EL 5, but of course I would be interested if any newer version has this feature.) Thanks, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Displaying .docx attachments?
On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 12:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 16:56 +0100, Svante R Signell wrote: > > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 15:09 +0100, Matthew Barnes wrote: > > > On Fri, 2009-02-06 at 14:35 +0100, Svante R Signell wrote: > > > > Thank you for the information. I know it works by saving the attachment > > > > to disk and opening it in Openoffice. My question was how to configure > > > > evolution to get this alternative by right-clicking on the attachment. > > > > Now the only option is to save to disk. Sorry for being unclear. > > > > > > Follow that for the first attachment and subsequent attachments of that > > > type will offer to open in the application you've chosen. > > > > Thanks. So you have to use Nautilus to get the expected behaviour in > > Evolution. Maybe this should be mentioned in the Evolution Users Guide. > > I did not find it there or with a quick Googling either. > > Actually I think the idea is that you *can* use Nautilus, which is > probably the easiest way for Gnome users. All Nautilus is doing is > modifying a setting somewhere. Perhaps someone knowledgeable can tell us > where. > > poc > I too have had this problem, so I will add what I have learned and maybe somebody else can clarify further. I too do not run Nautilus unless I have to turn it on just for this purpose. (I will omit the obvious polemic on this topic). The information on mime types and applications that can process them is kept in .desktop files. These are found in many places, for example, on my system, here is a partial list: /usr/share/gnome/autostart /usr/share/gnome/wm-properties /usr/share/mimelnk/application /usr/share/xsessions /usr/share/applications /usr/java/jre1.6.0_04/lib/desktop/applications /usr/java/jre1.6.0_04/plugin/desktop /usr/local/share/applications $(HOME)/.config/autostart $(HOME)/.gnome2/panel2.d/default/launchers $(HOME)/.local/share/applications Looking in these files, one can see what the format is supposed to be and try to add new application--file type associations. I believe the appropriate places are /usr/share/applications for global associations and $(HOME)/.local/share/applications for associations for the one user. I have tried this a few times and sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Using nautilus seems more reliable, but I could never figure out what I was doing wrong. That having been said, here is a question for somebody more knowledgeable than me: There are several file types on my system (.doc, .pdf) where the exact same application shows up two or three times on the evolution right-click menu. How can I get rid of these duplicates? I don't see any way to do this in nautilus. Regards, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evaluating Evolution- some basic questions [about the forced hyphens in signatures]
On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 13:11 +1100, Nick Jenkins wrote: > > Second, note the one hyphen in my signature above the longer series > > below? I can't get rid of that "hovering hyphen." I've edited my > > signature, of course, but that hovering hyphen doesn't appear there. > > How can I get rid of that? I have a simple method of avoiding the hyphen issue that others might find useful: I don't use the signature feature of evolution. Instead, I have a selection of various signature files (like the one below) in my home directory. To add a signature to a mail I am composing, I use the "Insert" button and insert the signature as a text file (I never send html mail). Then the software doesn't know it is a signature, but the recipient sees it as such. Of course, this might take too long if you send dozens of emails every day. George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 phone: (212)-327-7627 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution crashing randomly
On Fri, 2009-02-27 at 15:16 +, Tom H wrote: > Hi, > > over the last few days, evolution has taken to crashing - the app just > disappears a few seconds after start-up. This seems to be triggered by > events like clicking on emails or moving mails about, and doesn't seem > to be specific to a particular problem email. > > If I start with the debug flag, it still crashes no interesting errors > are recorded; > "evolution-shell-Message: Killing old version of > evolution-data-server... > ** (evolution:8513): DEBUG: mailto URL command: evolution > --component=mail %s > ** (evolution:8513): DEBUG: mailto URL program: evolution > " > > [local...@localhost ~]$ uname -a > Linux localhost.localdomain 2.6.27.15-170.2.24.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed > Feb 11 23:14:31 EST 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > [local...@localhost ~]$ cat /etc/redhat-release > Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) > [local...@localhost ~]$ evolution -version > Unknown option -version > Run 'evolution --help' to see a full list of available command line > options. > [local...@localhost ~]$ evolution --version > GNOME evolution 2.24.4 > [local...@localhost ~]$ rpm -qi evolution > Name: evolutionRelocations: (not > relocatable) > Version : 2.24.4Vendor: Fedora Project > Release : 1.fc10Build Date: Fri 30 Jan 2009 > 22:21:36 GMT > Install Date: Wed 25 Feb 2009 20:05:26 GMT Build Host: > x86-4.fedora.phx.redhat.com > Group : Applications/Productivity Source RPM: > evolution-2.24.4-1.fc10.src.rpm > Size: 39833758 License: GPLv2 and GFDL > Signature : DSA/SHA1, Thu 19 Feb 2009 11:43:38 GMT, Key ID > bf226fcc4ebfc273 > Packager: Fedora Project > URL : http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/ > Summary : Mail and calendar client for GNOME > Description : > Evolution is the GNOME mailer, calendar, contact manager and > communications tool. The components which make up Evolution > are tightly integrated with one another and act as a seamless > personal information-management tool. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks, > > Tom H > Dear Tom and list, I have had what appears to be the same problem for some time with evo 2.12.3 as suppled with RedHat EL 5.3 (64-bit smp), except it can happen well after evolution starts, basically anytime the mouse is moved. (My system is a Lenovo T61 laptap if that matters.) Because this is an older version, I did not place a bug with the evolution folks, but instead with the RedHat bugzilla. They don't seem very interested. What I have to add to your note is this: Each time this happens, I get a core dump. You may not if you have dumps turned off in your shell preferences (.cshrc or whatever). I did not install the debug source, so these dumps are sort of useless, but if somebody would find a dump useful for debugging, please let me know what packages are needed to install the debug versions and I will send the first dump I get to you. Also, please let me know whether it is appropriate to file a bug for 2.12.3 with the evolution bugzilla. Anybody else having this problem? George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I make Evo to recognize xslx files should be opened with OpenOffice?
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > Jim McKean wrote: > > When I get an attachment with one of the newer MS formats (like *.xlsx), > > evolution does not recognize that it can open them with OpenOffice. It > > only give me the option to save them or open with text editor. If I > > save them, Ubuntu has no problem recognizing that OpenOffice can open > > them. But most of the time, I just want to see what's in them, not keep > > them in my file system. > > > > What do I need to do to allow me to click on them to open while in Evo? > > > > use nautilus to associate an application with the filetype This question keeps getting asked over and over again. I asked it myself a couple of years ago. Maybe the developers can take a hint that some better documentation would be a good idea. I will add that I choose not to use nautilus--if I wanted a Windows desktop, I would run Windows--so it would really be nice to have an alternative way to make these settings. When a new format comes along, I have to run nautilus to register it, then log out and in again to get rid of nautilus. In my view, nautilus has nothing to do with email and it should not be necessary to run it to set up one's email preferences. I realize this is a philosophical argument with the developers that I will lose, but I wanted to say it anyway. Regards to all. George Reeke > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I make Evo to recognize xslx files should be opened with OpenOffice?
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:35 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > Jim McKean wrote: > > > > When I get an attachment with one of the newer MS formats (like *.xlsx), > > > > evolution does not recognize that it can open them with OpenOffice. It > > > > only give me the option to save them or open with text editor. If I > > > > save them, Ubuntu has no problem recognizing that OpenOffice can open > > > > them. But most of the time, I just want to see what's in them, not keep > > > > them in my file system. > > > > > > > > What do I need to do to allow me to click on them to open while in Evo? > > > > > > > > > > use nautilus to associate an application with the filetype > > > > This question keeps getting asked over and over again. I asked it > > myself a couple of years ago. Maybe the developers can take a hint > > that some better documentation would be a good idea. > > Good luck with that .. > > > I will add that I choose not to use nautilus--if I wanted a Windows > > desktop, I would run Windows--so it would really be nice to have > > an alternative way to make these settings. When a new format comes > > along, I have to run nautilus to register it, then log out and in > > again to get rid of nautilus. In my view, nautilus has nothing to > > do with email and it should not be necessary to run it to set up > > one's email preferences. I realize this is a philosophical argument > > with the developers that I will lose, but I wanted to say it anyway. > > The point is that it's not an email preference but a desktop preference. > It's assumed that you will always want to open this type of file with > that specific application, no matter where you're calling it from. > > I don't necessarily agree with this (it's at the very least non-obvious > to the average user) and besides I don't even use Gnome so I'm not > normally running Nautilus anyway. It would make more sense to allow the > user to call this kind of configuration directly from the app (Evo in > this case) even if its effects were global. > > poc I understand and agree with both of your points--I just didn't happen to think of it as a desktop preference because I mostly work from command lines. So here's the next obvious question: Why can't I set these preferences with the gconf editor (System Tools-> Configuration Editor)?? George Reeke > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I make Evo to recognize xslx files should be opened with OpenOffice?
Dear Reid Thompson and list, On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:09 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > Reid Thompson wrote: > > Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 13:41 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:50 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:35 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > >>>>> On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 12:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > >>>>>> Jim McKean wrote: > >>>>>>> When I get an attachment with one of the newer MS formats (like > >>>>>>> *.xlsx), > >>>>>>> evolution does not recognize that it can open them with > >>>>>>> OpenOffice. It > >>>>>>> only give me the option to save them or open with text editor. If I > >>>>>>> save them, Ubuntu has no problem recognizing that OpenOffice can > >>>>>>> open > >>>>>>> them. But most of the time, I just want to see what's in them, > >>>>>>> not keep > >>>>>>> them in my file system. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> What do I need to do to allow me to click on them to open while > >>>>>>> in Evo? > > > >> You almost certainly can, but I'm afraid I don't know enough about Gnome > >> internals to guide you. > >> > >> poc > >> > >> ___ > >> Evolution-list mailing list > >> Evolution-list@gnome.org > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > > > may be of use > > http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/mimetypes-registering.html.en > > > > my local defaults.list file > > $ cat /home/rthompso/.local/share/applications/defaults.list > [Default Applications] > text/html=mozilla-firefox-2.0.desktop > application/x-mozilla-bookmarks=mozilla-firefox-2.0.desktop > text/x-java=gvim.desktop > text/plain=gvim.desktop > application/zip=file-roller.desktop > application/x-bzip-compressed-tar=file-roller.desktop > application/x-compressed-tar=file-roller.desktop > application/keyhole=Google-googleearth.desktop > application/vnd.google-earth.kml+xml=Google-googleearth.desktop > application/vnd.google-earth.kmz=Google-googleearth.desktop > application/earthviewer=Google-googleearth.desktop > > and > > $ cat /usr/share/applications/defaults.list > [Default Applications] > application/vnd.adobe.xdp+xml=AdobeReader.desktop > application/vnd.adobe.xfdf=AdobeReader.desktop > application/pdf=AdobeReader.desktop > application/vnd.fdf=AdobeReader.desktop > application/vnd.adobe.pdx=AdobeReader.desktop Thanks, that was VERY helpful. I knew about .desktop files but could never get my changes to work because I didn't know about the cache, so I had reverted to using nautilus out of frustration. George Reeke > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
Dear colleagues, There are many postings on this topic in the list archives, so don't read this if it bores you, but I can't find a usable answer there, so I will bring it up again with a note on how I tried and failed to solve the problem, in the hope that this idea will tickle someone to speak up who has the final little bit of information we need to defeat this beast. (I am stuck at Evolution 2.12.3 due to using RedHat EL 5.3, gnome-desktop and metacity 2.16.0, but I'm guessing this is the same in more recent versions judging by the ancient archive postings.) When I start evolution after a reboot, the main window comes up too small. I adjust it and it stays that way, even if restarted, for the rest of the session, but does not remember between sessions, at least not all the time. Taking the attitude that I don't really care if this is an evolution or a window manager issue, I just wanted to fix it, so I went poking around in all the hidden files in my home directory, and in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/shell/view-defaults there is a file called %gconf.xml that has entries called 'height' and 'width'. This seems to be where it stores the window size. If I kill evolution (with --force-shutdown), edit these entries, and start evolution up again, most of the time it just resets to the old small window size and edits these entries back to what they were. But strangely, I can find "magic numbers" that are obeyed and stay put for the rest of the session. New session-- old numbers back again. I tried changing the file mode to 444, but some code somewhere changes it back to 600 and I am again defeated. Obviously, what I need to fix this problem without delving into the code is just to know where the global defaults are stored so I can edit them. I looked in /usr/share/evolution (I have root access) but could not find what I was looking for there. So: Desperate plea: Does somebody know where the global default window size is stored, so I and everybody else with this problem can edit it and not have it automagically turn back to the original small size?? Thanks and the best to all, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 11:37 -0700, N B Day wrote: > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 12:08 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > >When I start evolution after a reboot, the main window comes > > up too small. I adjust it and it stays that way, even if > > restarted, for the rest of the session, but does not remember > > between sessions, at least not all the time. > >Taking the attitude that I don't really care if this is an > > evolution or a window manager issue, I just wanted to fix it, so > > I went poking around in all the hidden files in my home directory, > > and in ~/.gconf/apps/evolution/shell/view-defaults there is a > > file called %gconf.xml that has entries called 'height' and > > 'width'. > Have you tried setting these values with the gconf-editor program? > > (Run gconf-editor from a terminal within gnome as yourself). You'll > find them under /Apps/Evolution. Maybe hand editing them isn't sticky > for some reason. > > regards, > Thanks for your suggestion. For me, it doesn't work. I killed evolution, changed the height and width in gconf editor in two places, since the names are not unambiguous: apps/evolution/mail/message_window and apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults Restarted evolution: New sizes took effect. Shut down evolution, rebooted computer--old small size is back again. I will report this as a bug (unless somebody posts a message in the next day or two that it has been fixed in more recent versions), but again--can somebody just tell me please where it gets this default main window size? Regards, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
Dear Matthew, Suman et al., On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 09:05 +0530, Suman Manjunath wrote: > 2009/6/10 Matthew Barnes : > > On Tue, 2009-06-09 at 17:43 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > >> Thanks for your suggestion. For me, it doesn't work. > >> I killed evolution, changed the height and width in gconf editor in > >> two places, since the names are not unambiguous: > >> apps/evolution/mail/message_window and > >> apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults > >> Restarted evolution: New sizes took effect. > >> Shut down evolution, rebooted computer--old small size is back again. > > > > Check your ~/.gconf directory permissions (including subdirectories) and > > make sure they are writable. What you describe sounds like the GConf > > daemon process (gconfd-2) is unable to write its in-memory settings to > > disk when the desktop session is ending, which would explain why your > > settings are retained during the session but lost on reboot. > > Unlikely. IMO, you need to set the values as default after changing them. > > Open gconf-editor, change the values of view_default sizes, right > click on those values and click on "Set as default" (and/or "Set as > mandatory"). These values should be retained over multiple sessions. > > -Suman First, my reply to Matthew: Yes, every component of the path is writeable. Like I said, if I make the %gconf.xml file nonwriteable to try to save my hand-edited changes, it changes back to writeable and writes the small window size back in there, so I guess there is no way it could in fact be nonwriteable, even on purpose. Actually, I am tempted to change the ownership to root and then make it nonwriteable and see whether my poor little changes will stay where I put them. My reply to Suman: Thanks for pointing out that "save as default" item. It is so obscure on that right-click menu that I never saw it. Stupid me. Anyway, that is no help. When I try it, I get a long error message, reproduced below for anybody interested. Here are my responses to the suggestions given in that error message: "...attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change." I AM the system administrator. I didn't tell it to forbid me to change anything. I doubt RedHat did. (1) Path /etc/gconf/2/path is there and contents look reasonable as far as I can tell given no documentation. I looked in all the files pointed to by the configuration files in that path, and none have any actual numerical values for any height or width parameters. (2) "somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes". BINGO. Actually, there are no gconfd processes running, but there is a gconfd-2 and a gconf-editor when I am trying to edit. I rebooted and found out that gconfd-2 comes up as soon as I start my gnome session, without my doing anything except to run ps in a terminal window. That is apparently the gconfd-2 that Matthew referred to. I guess it is supposed to be running, but anyway, if I kill it and run the gconf editor and make my height and width changes again, still I get this same error message when I try to make them the defaults. Evolution again comes up small, so this thing about two processes is apparently irrelevant. (3 and 4) Something about NFS locking. There is no NFS access involved here. So I am still stumped. Gee, you would think if a user did something as simple as change a window size (to a nonridiculous value that works) it would get written in a configuration file somewhere and just stay that way. I'm beginning to think those built-in defaults are hard coded in the source somewhere, since I can't find them and nobody seems to be able to tell me where they come from. Any more ideas or suggestions? Thanks, George Reeke Here is the text of my error message: The application "gconf-editor" attempted to change an aspect of your configuration that your system administrator or operating system vendor does not allow you to change. Some of the settings you have selected may not take effect, or may not be restored next time you use the application. No database available to save your configuration: Unable to store a value at key '/apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults/height', as the configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/ path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home directory or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly notify the server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you have two gconfd processes (or
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 18:59 -0700, N B Day wrote: > On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 18:08 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > > > Thanks, > > George Reeke > > > > Here is the text of my error message: > > The application "gconf-editor" attempted to change an aspect of your > > configuration that your system administrator or operating system > > vendor does not allow you to change. Some of the settings you have > > selected may not take effect, or may not be restored next time you use > > the application. > > > > No database available to save your configuration: Unable to store a > > value at key '/apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults/height', as the > > configuration server has no writable databases. There are some common > > causes of this problem: 1) your configuration path file /etc/gconf/2/ > > path doesn't contain any databases or wasn't found 2) somehow we > > mistakenly created two gconfd processes 3) your operating system is > > misconfigured so NFS file locking doesn't work in your home directory > > or 4) your NFS client machine crashed and didn't properly notify the > > server on reboot that file locks should be dropped. If you have two > > gconfd processes (or had two at the time the second was launched), > > logging out, killing all copies of gconfd, and logging back in may > > help. If you have stale locks, remove ~/.gconf*/*lock. Perhaps the > > problem is that you attempted to use GConf from two machines at once, > > and ORBit still has its default configuration that prevents remote > > CORBA connections - put "ORBIIOPIPv4=1" in /etc/orbitrc. As always, > > check the user.* syslog for details on problems gconfd encountered. > > There can only be one gconfd per home directory, and it must own a > > lockfile in ~/.gconfd and also lockfiles in individual storage > > locations such as ~/.gconf > > > I think at this point I'd leave Gnome entirely for TWM or KDE or > whatever else you have on your machine, shut down gconftool-2 with > "gconftool-2 --shutdown", do the same for evolution, "evolution > --force-shutdown", and then try setting my desired values with > gconf-editor. > > Interesting idea, but no cigar. I don't have KDE installed, TWM is installed but I have never used it and when I do try to start it up it fails with a message that it cannot open the display. I have no interest in debugging this problem. Anyway, what reason is there to think gconf-editor would work outside the gnome environment for which it was designed? This seems a bit of a stab in the dark. I noticed a similar new thread on this topic today. Perhaps someone can answer my original question: where are the defaults stored? I would be much happier bold-force editing them in a few minutes than all this time trying to get fancy Windows- imitating tools to work that I really am not interested in. Just in case anybody is interested, I tried editing the $(HOME)/.gconf/apps/evolution/shell/view_defaults/%gconf.xml file where these parameters seem to be stored when the window is changed with the mouse, then setting it to be unmodifiable with chattr +i. Guess what happened? I exited gnome and restarted, the evolution window again came up small, and now there was a new file called %gconf.xml.new in this directory with the small height and width, and the old file with my settings of course still there because it could not be touched. So some programmer somewhere really very badly did not want me to modify this file. I really would like to understand the reasoning behind this. If I made the .new file untouchable, would it make a .new2? How deep would this go? Where are the numbers coming from that it keeps writing into this file? Just curious, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] suggestion for evolution
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 19:42 -0500, C de-Avillez wrote: > On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 08:17 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > > > Work offline should be transparent to the user. > > > > > > > > > jay > > > > Besides, there's already an indicator of 'work offline' (a disconnected > > plug at the bottom-left). Its obvious what it means once you think to > > look. > > I dispute the obvious part. It is *obvious* to those that know what to > look for, *not* to the casual user. And, before you raise the issue, I > am *NOT* a casual user. > > But it is not, by a long shot, obvious "once one thinks to look". Apart > from the prejudice (from the latin, pre judice, "to judge in advance > [before knowing the facts]"), your statement is overly aggressive, > implying the original poster does (or did) not think, or want(ed) to. > > Please be more courteous. Everybody will enjoy more your knowledge this > way. Also, please keep in mind those that know more are here to direct, > instruct, and pass knowledge, to those that know less. In a nice way. > > And I think the original poster does have a point. > > Regards, FWIW, I too was stymied by the unobviousness of this icon for a day or so when I started using evolution. I support the original poster's suggestion. Alternatively, the words "OFF LINE" (in red and translated to national language if necessary) instead of that icon would be better. Regards, George Reeke > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] save button and shortcuts
Dear Jay & list, On Wed, 2009-09-09 at 06:40 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > On Tue, 2009-09-08 at 21:29 -0400, Jay Daniels wrote: > > I need a save button in evo so when i click this save button, poof! it > > saved or actually moved to my "saved" folder automatically. > > Furthermore, I would like to be able to edit the toolbar buttons. At > > least move that damn Junk button away from the Delete button. > > Yes, that would be nice. I just want to remove the *(&@*(*...@# Junk > button. > > > Hey, what happen to the old style shortcuts like the ximian gnome > > evolution? and what happened to the start screen with number of > > messages, task, and weather? > > I recall much debate about the removal of that feature; it was dropped > a very long time ago (2.0?). > > > Q: What happened to the Summary in Evolution 2.0? > A: The user interface was redesigned in Evolution 2.0 and the Summary > was removed from the product. > Q: Where is the Shortcut bar in Evolution 2.0? > A: The user interface was redesigned in Evolution 2.0 and the shortcut > bar was removed. > > > The above is from > <http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/feature/15262.html> which answers > the question but is itself scandalously out of date. > > > It seems Evolution in Ubuntu Hardy and Jaunty has been stripped of these > > old features or in each new version they do away with something else. > > I wish Evolution was the way it was... > > http://www.guidebookgallery.org/pics/gui/applications/internet/mail/gnome220redhat9-1-1.png > > I don't wish that; Evolution is much more stable now than it was then. I am stuck in evolution 2.12 because that is the latest version distributed with RedHat EL5. In that version, the setup of these buttons is in /usr/share/evolution/2.12/ui/evolution-mail-message.xml. I was able to delete the junk button and make other changes--it is sort of intuitive if you read the file carefully (and I know nothing about xml except what I see there). I suggest you play with it and try to get the effects you want. Of course, if you have a different version of evolution, this file may have been moved (try changing the "2.12" in the path name above to the version you have). Hope it works for you, George Reeke > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Changing Port 25 to Port 587
On Fri, 2009-10-16 at 08:12 -0700, John Maxwell wrote: > Adam, > I have tried all of those variations including mail.XXX.com:587, > smtp.XXX.com:587 and restarting the machine between changes, > unfortunately they have not worked. Originally mail.XXX.com worked > for years before Verizon made the changes Monday. My email server is > at my old ISP that we have used for years. A call to them revealed > that mail.XXX.com is the proper syntax and if the email client needs > port 587 then it resides with the client and the host isp. > > On the windows side Eudora 7 and outlook express made the conversion > fine but if tried thunderbird and it exhibits the same problem. > > An interesting problem. > > John > --irrelevant material cut--- Maybe port 587 is blocked by the firewall on your client machine. George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] top versus bottom posting and the"control-L"function
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 22:34 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día martes, octubre 20, 2009 a las 04:23:28 -0400, Art Alexion escribió: > > > > This, using Evo, is required because in business I have to use an > > > Exchange server with IMAP and SMTP disabled. > > > > Matthais, > > > > Weren't you the one chastising me for using a work-mandated Blackberry? > > Don't know, because my name is Matthias; > > but, yes, I have to use Evo for work, but not for > OpenSource mailing list like this here; and I do use Evo at work > it in a netiquette style; > > matthias Could we please drop this thread about top vs bottom posting and which editor is better--I think the issues have been hashed out well enough for most of us on this list. Thanks, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send and Receive hanging
Dear colleagues: On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 03:45 -0500, Jeremy Bennett wrote: > I'm running Evolution 2.26.3 under Fedora 11. > > I notice that send & receive frequently hangs when getting mail from my > two most active POP3 accounts. > > The curious thing is that it invariably hangs when fetching message 12. > This has been going on for some time, including with older versions of > Evolution under Fedora 9. > > I can request the transfer to be cancelled, and it will show "failed at > message 12 of xxx" (but still show "Fetching Mail (...)", or it will > eventually time out. Once it has timed out, send & receive will retrieve > the rest of the mail (possibly hanging at message 12 again). > > Has anyone else seen this behavior? > > I'd like to file a bug report. When this behavior happens, how can I get > Evolution to terminate with trace information to attach to the bug > report? > > Advice much appreciated. > > > Jeremy > FWIW, my university just switched from a sendmail server to Microsoft Exchange Server and now I am seeing the phenomenon reported by Jeremy. I never saw this happen with the sendmail server. (I am using POP2 and evolution 2.12.3 because locked in to RedHat 5.) In my case, Evolution stalls usually on mail #26. Upon cancelling and restarting, it downloads the rest of the email OK. So anyone looking to debug this might see whether it is something specific to the way Microsoft implements the POP protocol. Best to all, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] "File CC" option
Dear List, On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 05:16 -0500, Anderson Luiz Perazzoli wrote: > 2009/12/12 Matthew Barnes : > > On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 11:37 -0200, Anderson Luiz Perazzoli wrote: > >> I am a Thunderbird user and decided to give Evolution a try. > >> > >> I think I could adopt Evolution for my daily use if I can find a way > >> to be able to choose, when typing a new message, which folder the > >> message shall be saved to (instead of the default 'Sent' folder). In > >> Thunderbird I accomplish this by using the excellent "TB Change From > >> and Fcc on Compose" plugin. > >> > >> Does Evolution (or a plugin for it) offer this functionality? I have > >> searched extensively but found nothing. > > > > Not currently but I've been thinking about implementing this. It would > > be another "header" field in the composer window (beneath From, Subject, > > To, etc.) and hidden by default, but I'm still thinking through what the > > drop-down menu should look like. > > > > No promises on an ETA. It will be when I find time. > > > > Matthew Barnes > > > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-listusers will benefit > > from it. > > > > > > Thanks for the answer. > > As a suggestion, please have a look at the screenshot attached to this > message. It show how the Thunderbird Extension I mentioned works. > > Besides selecting which folder you want to salve, from the folder > list, In case you are replying, forwarding, or editing a message as > original, it allows to use the same folder as that message. In this > case also allows to move the original message along with the one > you're sending (for example, if you have a message in your inbox, when > you reply it, you can move both the reply and the original message to > the same folder by flagging the "move orig. mesg." checkbox) > > Of course it is only a suggestion, but I have a feeling many users > would benefit from it. > > Let me know if I can be of any more help. > > Thanks and Best Regards. > > Anderson This suggestion has been around for a while. See, for example, http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution-list@gnome.org/msg04095.html (from August 2006). I thought I had added this to the bugzilla features-requested list, but I can't find it there. What I was asking for then is pretty much the same as, or a subset of, what Anderson describes: I would like the default place where an outgoing Reply is filed would be the same folder where the message being replied to is filed. I guess this would require either holding the reply for filing at the same time as the incoming is filed (usually after the reply is sent), or else using a drop-down to select where both will be filed while still writing the reply, or thirdly, looking in the user's contact list to see where mail from a given correspondent should be filed and requesting a folder selection only if not found there. Regards, George Reeke > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to make Evolution remember its main window size--revisited
Dear colleagues, I am adding to this thread from last summer because a new piece of information has come to light which might help someone give me the answer. The problem was and is that, at least in RedHat EL5 with Evo 2.12.3, after a reboot, Evo comes up with a small default window size. After it is resized, the new size comes back when Evo dies, as it does about twice a day, and is restarted from its panel icon. Previous posts on this list mostly suggested using gconf editor to adjust the window size. In my hands, the size set in this manner was not remembered. The new information is this: I noticed that the small window only comes up when Evo is on the desktop and the desktop setup is remembered so Evo starts up automatically after the reboot and restart of X. If I remove Evo from the remembered setup [I'm not sure what I did to cause this, it just disappeared recently], i.e. so Evo does not come up automatically when startx is done, then start Evo from the control panel icon, it comes up with the correct larger window size that I set it to last time. Does this make sense to anybody? It looks like the remembered startup configuration is stored somewhere with a wrong window size, and if I could find and edit that, instead of the startup window size set in gconf editor and used when starting from the panel icon, then everything would be OK. Many thanks for any insight on this, George Reeke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply for list messages should go back to the list
On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 15:21 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-07-14 at 18:34 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > > > Personal Reply Non-Munged List > > Munged List w/o Option Munged List with Option > > > Ctrl-R to RT to RT to > > RT to SA > > > Ctrl-L to RT+CCto LP to > > LP to LP > > > Shift-Ctrl-Rto RT+CCto LP+CCto > > RT+CCto LP+CC Rest snipped. I've been trying to follow all this but am missing a key concept-- could someone just tell me and anybody else who doesn't already know: what is a "munged list"? And there seems to be mention of multiple kinds of munged lists, which is even more confusing. Thanks, G.Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution sent email location
Dear Arnaud and colleagues, On Sat, 2010-10-09 at 15:15 -0400, Arnaud G wrote: > Hi, > > I switched from KDE (Debian+KDE) to Ubuntu 10.04 (GNOME). I used KMail > and now Evolution. > > One feature I cannot find in evolution is the following. > > In KMail, I had the option to "put" my reply in the same folder as the > original message. > ie: When I was replying to message "A", the reply, message "B" was in > the same folder as message "A". > > In evolution, message "B" is in the sent folder. I do not see an > option to achieve the desired goal. > > Am I overlooking something? > > If someone knows how to do it, it would be greatly appreciated to > share your knowledge. > > Tx in advance > > A > As far as I know, there is no way at present to do this. Consider this email a strong vote in favor of your suggestion. I requested this several years ago and nothing was done about it. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution systray
Dear colleagues, On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 10:32 -0400, Christian wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 21:53 +0100, Calum Benson wrote: > > On 14 Aug 2008, at 17:10, tim wrote: > > > > > i want to say my hat's off to you guys and all you do. i have an idea > > > for the next update of evolution... > > > > > > could you make it so when i close it the program still runs in the > > > systray? i like deluge because it minimizes to the systray and pidgin > > > for the same reason. even rhythmbox too. everything runs great on > > > the > > > program; that's just a feature i am looking forward to. > > > > Note that minimising to system tray (at least by using the standard > > minimise or close buttons) is a behaviour rather frowned upon by > > GNOME's usability folks, however :) > > > > Minimise buttons should minimise, and close buttons should close. If > > you want to add a button that does something else, then fine, do that > > and call it something else. But please don't make the minimise or > > close buttons do things they're not supposed to... > > > > Cheeri, > > Calum. > > > An option to set what the close button does (close/minimize) is all it > takes. Several programs have that option both on Linux and Windows. If > you want to follow the advice of the usability crowd don't enable this > option. > > I'm using alltray and have edited the menu to open Evo in the tray (or > is it called notification area these days?) using alltray. > > Personally I do not not care who frowns of what as long as it works for > me! :) > Why not use Workspace Switcher and leave evolution in a separate workspace window? You can get to it and back with a simple click and it's always open but out of the way when not needed. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Preview frame cursor jumping to top after clicking on link
Dear colleagues, This problem probably more properly should be sent to a RedHat bugzilla because it refers to an older version of evolution, and I will do that, but I am curious first whether others are seeing the same problem. I am still running Evolution 2.12.3 and Gnome 2.16.0, the versions supplied with RedHat Enterprise Linux Server 5.5. This brand-new problem just appeared in the last few days after some RedHat update that as far as I know did not include evolution components. Now, when I left click on a URL link in an email in the preview pane (typically to view an article from a journal contents page email), the cursor jumps to the top of the email. On return from viewing the article, I need to scroll back down to where I was in the contents list. Very annoying. I note that if I instead right-click on the link and then select "Open Link in Browser" the cursor stays where it was. Anybody else seeing this, whether in RedHat or some other distro? Any ideas what software component might cause this if modified? Regards, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Preview frame cursor jumping to top after clicking on link
Dear Milan et al, On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 02:46 -0500, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 17:43 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > Dear colleagues, > >This problem probably more properly should be sent to a > > RedHat bugzilla because it refers to an older version of > > evolution, and I will do that, but I am curious first > > whether others are seeing the same problem. > >I am still running Evolution 2.12.3 and Gnome 2.16.0, the > > versions supplied with RedHat Enterprise Linux Server 5.5. > > This brand-new problem just appeared in the last few days after > > some RedHat update that as far as I know did not include evolution > > components. > >Now, when I left click on a URL link in an email in the preview > > pane (typically to view an article from a journal contents page > > email), the cursor jumps to the top of the email. On return from > > viewing the article, I need to scroll back down to where I was in > > the contents list. Very annoying. I note that if I instead > > right-click on the link and then select "Open Link in Browser" > > the cursor stays where it was. > >Anybody else seeing this, whether in RedHat or some other distro? > > Any ideas what software component might cause this if modified? > > Hi, > this is fixed in actual stable, which is apparently 2.32.1. What you > did, I believe, is that you turned on a Caret mode, by pressing F7 (or > View->Caret mode in a mailer view). > > It should behave as before if you turn this off again. > Bye, > Milan > Thanks, indeed I had somehow gotten into caret mode. Sorry to bother everybody on the list with this. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] gconf-edit
Dear colleagues, On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 07:26 -0500, Richard wrote: > On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:11 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 12:37 +1030, Wayne Sierke wrote: > > > > Its the left pane with the inbox and all the sub directories that > > > keeep > > > > s reverting back to the default. The RH panes seem OK. > > > > > > Curious. I see the same behaviour in 2.32.1 on FreeBSD-7.3 i386/Gnome > > > 2.32.1. > > > > Hi, > > I'm wondering what is your window state when you run evolution. I'm > > pretty much sure that you have the window maximized, and when you > > restore it from the maximized state, then you get much smaller window > > than it is when maximized. Am I right? > > > > People whom are not using maximized window or their restored window is > > approximately the same size as the maximized window don't see an issue > > of this kind. > > Hope that helps, > > Milan Perhaps I can shed some light on this, although I am stuck at evo 2.12.3 as supplied by RedHat 5.6. I found that when I saved my desktop configuration using the gnome preferences, evolution would always come up in some undesirable configuration. After a bunch of inquiries on this list, where I never did find out where config info like window size is kept, one day I shut down evolution before saving the configuration, logging off, and powering down. Now I just leave it that way. So when I start up, there is no evolution window on screen. Then I click the evolution launcher button in the panel at the bottom of the screen and evolution starts up just the way I left it. I shut down seldom enough that this workaround is OK for me. I don't know if this is true with more recent versions; I'd love to hear whether others have had this experience, and if so, again whether anyone knows where this saved desktop info is kept so it could be edited manually. [Yes, I know it is saved in memory when gnome is running-- I tried to find and edit it from a command-line screen with gnome shut down and never got anywhere that way either.] Best wishes, George Reeke, Ph.D. Head, Laboratory of Biological Modelling The Rockefeller University 1230 York Avenue New York, NY 10065 email: re...@rockefeller.edu ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution crashing
Dear Bart et al. On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 13:42 -0400, Bart Hollis wrote: > Quite often, evolution crashes. (Evo 2.30.1.2 on openSuse 11.3 on top > of KDE) It just goes away. If I start it from a command prompt, I can > see quite a few errors, the final ones being fatal (of course). It's > been doing this for a while and I thought to just wait and see if it got > fixed and an update provided. I get what appears to be the same thing with Evo. 2.12.3 on RedHat EL 5.6 (64 bit), gnome 2.16, i.e. evo just disappears at almost any random time no matter what I am doing, but no error messages. I reported this to RedHat (who have not fixed it through all subreleases of EL5), but not to the evo bugzilla because the version is so old, but I am mentioning it now because the fact that this problem has survived so many releases may help narrow it down. I don't have the debug packages installed, but I could if that would help someone. Probably better to work with the current version, which I cannot do as yet. Best, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution crashing
Dear Milan (and anybody still interested), On Mon, 2011-03-28 at 02:40 -0400, Milan Crha wrote: > On Fri, 2011-03-25 at 14:08 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > Dear Bart et al. > > On Thu, 2011-03-24 at 13:42 -0400, Bart Hollis wrote: > > > Quite often, evolution crashes. (Evo 2.30.1.2 on openSuse 11.3 on top > > > of KDE) It just goes away. > > > > I get what appears to be the same thing with Evo. 2.12.3 on RedHat > > EL 5.6 (64 bit), gnome 2.16, i.e. evo just disappears at almost any > > random time no matter what I am doing, but no error messages. > > > Hi, > I'm just curious, how do you know it's the same thing? There is no exact > clue why it's crashing for the other user, neither for you, so how could > you compare these? > > Bye, > Milan I didn't say it was the same thing. I said it appears to be the same thing, which is a more careful statement. All I was trying to do was support the OP's comment that there seem to be problems for at least some users with evo disappearing under no reproducible circumstances. Best, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Mail in Evolution disappearing - mystery deepens
On Wed, 2015-12-02 at 22:33 +, Pete Biggs wrote: ---trimmed--- >> My isp has a 90 day limit that I did not know about. The only >> alternative is tw, and I doubt that the will be a big improvement. >> I do think it is time to get better email hosting, which is >> independent of the isp. > There shouldn't be any reason to restrict your mail provider to just > your ISP (unless they are real bastards and block access to other > places! In which case dump them.). Gmail is a reasonable start and it > is integrated nicely with Evolution via Gnome online accounts - > although some of the ways they do things is a bit non-standard. > > P. I use Earthlink (POP protocol) at home with Time-Warner as ISP. No problems with evolution. They are cheap (not free) and do not have the nonstandard features of Gmail. Maybe SPAM filtering is over- aggressive. I can't say whether they read your mail like Google does, but at least I don't see ads based on my email content. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ordering in the Show pop-up menu
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 17:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > (This is something I've been meaning to bring up for a long time but > never got round to.) > > The various items in the pop-up menu accessed from the Show button on > the Message pane seem to me to be in a rather arbitrary order: > I don't know about current versions, but in the 2.32 that I have with RedHat 6, you can edit the menus to your heart's content in /usr/share/evolution//ui and I found that without any real knowledge of whatever language it is these are written in, it is pretty easy to reorder or rename menu items. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Ordering in the Show pop-up menu
On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 21:03 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 15:18 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 17:22 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > (This is something I've been meaning to bring up for a long time > > > but > > > never got round to.) > > > > > > The various items in the pop-up menu accessed from the Show button > > > on > > > the Message pane seem to me to be in a rather arbitrary order: > > > > > > > I don't know about current versions, but in the 2.32 that I have > > with RedHat 6, you can edit the menus to your heart's content in > > /usr/share/evolution//ui and I found that without any > > real knowledge of whatever language it is these are written in, > > it is pretty easy to reorder or rename menu items. > > No doubt, but also no doubt that changes will be overwritten on the > next update. This needs to be a per-user preference. > > poc I agree, and if I remember right I requested this enhancement some years ago, but until it gets done, this is a usable workaround. GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Switching to browser?
On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 15:00 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: > When reading my mail in evolution, I often click on a web link in the > message, A tab is opened in my running browser in another window. The > system switches me to the browser, but on another machine, I have > managed to avoid that switch. I would like to set things up the same > way on this machine but I can't figure out how to do it. As things now > stand, I have to switch back to evolution each time to finish reading my > mail. > > Can anyone help me? In RedHat Linux, gnome window system, in the System->Preferences menu, there is an item Windows and in that popup dialog there is a check box "Select windows when the mouse moves over them". If you check that, then when you move the mouse from the browser back to evolution, you will be in evolution with the browser still running. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Switching to browser?
On Thu, 2016-01-14 at 17:04 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 17:04 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-01-12 at 15:00 -0600, Leonard Evens wrote: > > > When reading my mail in evolution, I often click on a web link in the > > > message, A tab is opened in my running browser in another window. The > > > system switches me to the browser, but on another machine, I have > > > managed to avoid that switch. I would like to set things up the same > > > way on this machine but I can't figure out how to do it. As things now > > > stand, I have to switch back to evolution each time to finish reading my > > > mail. > > > > > > Can anyone help me? > > > > In RedHat Linux, gnome window system, in the System->Preferences menu, > > there is an item Windows and in that popup dialog there is a check box > > "Select windows when the mouse moves over them". If you check that, > > then when you move the mouse from the browser back to evolution, > > you will be in evolution with the browser still running. > > Where do I find System>Preferences? > > Also, I think perhaps I didn't explain what I wanted. Now when I click > on a link in a mail message, I get put in a new tab in my browser, which > is on a different page. When I go back to the page containing > evolution, it is still running. I would like to suppress the switch > from evolution to the browser. I would prefer looking at the link in > the browser after I have finished reading my mail. I managed somehow > to get things to work that way on another machine, but I don't remember > how I did it > > George Reeke Dear Len, [Reply to list is not available, I think you sent to me with just a cc to the list, so that is what I now have to do]. You are right, I misunderstood what you wanted. I thought you just wanted to get back from reading a link in the browser to where you were in evolution, so I told you how to make the window the mouse is on be active without having to click. To answer that question: Well, I find System on the RedHat menu on the panel, but I think by default there is a different arrangement with three main menus: RedHat, then Places, then a third one, that I always get rid of, so I don't know the name, which is probably where you need to look to click System. Then Preferences comes up on the System menu. To answer your real question, I'm not sure what you mean when you say "When I go back to the page containing evolution, it is still running." What is a "page" here? another workspace? you are somehow running evolution inside a browser page? I mean, if evolution is running in the normal way in its own window, and I click on a link, the tab comes up in the browser, but the mouse stays where it is in evolution and I have to move the mouse to the browser to read the linked page (unless the browser is off when I click and it comes up on top of evolution). So it sounds like you have some unusual arrangement where evolution is not in its own normal window and that is what you need to change. George Reeke > > ___ > > evolution-list mailing list > > evolution-list@gnome.org > > To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Combined from/to header
On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 13:51 +, Dale Mellor wrote: > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 13:57 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 11:54 +, Dale Mellor wrote: > > > My biggest bug-bear with evolution is that I needlessly see my own name > > > in listings in either the `from' or `to' columns. > > > It would be really nice to have one column which indicates `from' if it > > > is a message I received, or `to' if it is a message I sent. > > > > That only makes sense if you have both sent and received messages in > > the same folder, so you might want to elaborate on your setup. This isn't really correct. In the main preview window, I have columns "From", "Subject", and "Received". So now I click on "Sent" in the tree at the left to look up something I sent, and those same columns remain there, with my name in "From". So I agree with Mellor that this is a problem and I will be happy to support the new-feature request once a reference appears on this list. But I am in 2.32.3 as supplied by RedHat, maybe this is fixed in later versions? George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Combined from/to header
On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:31 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > In modern versions you can do View->Current View when in the Sent > folder and click on "As Sent Folder". If you don't have that option, > then right click on the header bar (i.e. in the "From") and select "Add > a column" and drag the "To" header to where you want it. You can > remove the "From" if you want. Sure, but then when you go back to the Inbox, you have the wrong headings. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Combined from/to header
On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 11:39 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:31 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> >
> > Sure, but then when you go back to the Inbox, you have the wrong
> > headings.
>
> No, the view can be customised per folder or made uniform accross all
> folders, according to a Preferences setting, see https://help.gnome.org
> /users/evolution/3.18/mail-change-columns-in-message-list.html.en
>
> However I've no idea if this applies to version 2.x which I'm afraid is
> really old.
>
> poc
Thank you! My 2.32.3 does have this setting ("Apply the same view
settings to all folders" in "Mail preference") and when I unchecked
it, it solved the problem. Now all my folders for specific senders
have "Date" instead of "Received" but that isn't a big issue.
George Reeke
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Re: [Evolution] Combined from/to header
On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 18:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 12:13 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 11:39 -0500, George Reeke wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 2016-03-08 at 16:31 +, Pete Biggs wrote:
> > > >
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure, but then when you go back to the Inbox, you have the wrong
> > > > headings.
> > > No, the view can be customised per folder or made uniform accross
> > > all
> > > folders, according to a Preferences setting, see https://help.gnome
> > > .org
> > > /users/evolution/3.18/mail-change-columns-in-message-list.html.en
> > >
> > > However I've no idea if this applies to version 2.x which I'm
> > > afraid is
> > > really old.
> > >
> > > poc
> > Thank you! My 2.32.3 does have this setting ("Apply the same view
> > settings to all folders" in "Mail preference") and when I unchecked
> > it, it solved the problem. Now all my folders for specific senders
> > have "Date" instead of "Received" but that isn't a big issue.
> > George Reeke
>
> You can configure the columns you want by right-clicking on the Message
> List pane heading, and re-order them by dragging.
>
> poc
Yes, but once "Apply the same view settings to all folders" is
turned off, now you have to make this change individually for
every folder, of which there are many.
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Re: [Evolution] User point of view on the attachment bar?
Dear Milan On Wed, 2016-05-18 at 10:30 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > This email is a plea for an opinion on the attachment bar issue from > the user point of view. I never even noticed the attachment bar you are talking about between the headers and the message. Always use the one at the bottom of the message. Very important that it should be in scrollable space though if at all possible, as it is now. Thanks for asking, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Signature placed in wrong position
On Sat, 2016-10-01 at 18:31 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > > Quite frankly, I want the signature where I want it and only where I > > want it. > Here is how I deal with this problem: I don't use the signature feature of evolution. I keep my signature in a little text file in an easily reached directory. To add my signature block, I click on Insert->Text File... and select that file and insert it where I want it. Also, I can have multiple slightly-different signature blocks this way and it is easy to pick the one I want. Just a few more clicks. George Reeke [This is not a signature block] ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution-list Digest, Vol 140, Issue 6
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 17:15 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > However a quick perusal of the admin options tells me that it can be > turned off. I'll propose doing this in a separate thread so members can > give their views. > > poc Please do not turn digests off on all lists. Although I do not use them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at random intervals. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 17:50 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > If you have an opinion about this, now is the time to ventilate it. If > you have valid reasons for needing the Evolution list in digest form, > make your voice heard. If no-one speaks up, I'd advocate turning them > off after a suitable warning period. > > poc I already sent this reply to the previous thread but am repeating it here for the record, with an added sentence: Please do not turn digests off. Although I do not use them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at random intervals. No doubt there are people who feel this way about the evolution list, so my comments should apply here as well. [It's not about network bandwidth, it's about inbox clutter.] George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 18:05 +, Pete Biggs wrote: > > I already sent this reply to the previous thread but am repeating > > it here for the record, with an added sentence: > > > > Please do not turn digests off. Although I do not use > > them on lists like this one, where I participate, I find them very > > useful on other lists where I just want to keep up a bit and would > > rather not be bothered with all the individual items coming in at > > random intervals. No doubt there are people who feel this way > > about the evolution list, so my comments should apply here as well. > > [It's not about network bandwidth, it's about inbox clutter.] > > So filter them into a different folder so they don't clutter your > inbox. I am a member of numerous mailing lists - not a single one > appears in my inbox, they all end up in their own folder. (For > efficiency, I do it on my server, but it's no different to doing it > within Evolution.) > > P. Then I have to look in all those other folders to see if something has arrived. The way I do it, I just see it in my one inbox when it comes (not often). [I am quite familiar with this type of filtering and use it for other purposes, but for me it is the wrong solution for lists that I don't want to check often.] GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
> Brewster replies: > > George, I'm not sure you're fully utilizing Evolution's capabilities. > When I fire up Evolution, I see my > entire list of folders, first thing. So I don't understand your > phraseology "look in all those other folders > to see if something has arrived". I have dozens of folders, and every > time I download my latest > email, any folder that has new arrivals is clearly flagged, including > the *number* of new messages > that just hit that folder. So I don't have to "look in all those > other folders" ; all I have to do is > scan the list to see which ones might have new traffic. > ewster > > As far as I have ever seen, those numbers in parens after each > folder bear no relationship to whether I have read the messages > or not. Maybe this is because I mostly read them in the preview > window and don't double click on them to read them in their own > window? And after reading them in the preview I either delete > them or move them to a specific folder. So everything in the > inbox is always new and everything in any other folder (except > ones I send stuff to with filters) is not new. The lists where > I look at digests are not important enough to me to be filtered > to their own folder; those are generally for stuff I want to keep. > Very simple. > GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Proposal: to eliminate the digest option for the Evolution mailing list
On Mon, 2017-03-13 at 21:56 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > If a lot of users actually should use digest, then digest shouldn't be > dropped. If just a few users should actually use digest, it doesn't > make sense to keep it, as long as at least not one person really needs > digest for a good reason, that isn't related to a habit. > What you call a "habit" other people may consider a "workflow" carefully developed over years of experience trying alternatives. I call that a good reason. GNR ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution - start minimised/tray?
On Thu, 2017-08-17 at 10:55 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2017-08-16 at 20:47 +0100, Phil wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I'm new to Evolution and I was wondering if there was a way I could > > start Evolution minimised (or in tray on Gnome). I literally just > > started using debian 9 this week (I'm a newbie). Looking forward to > > your replies! > > As to your question, Evolution does not have a built-in way to start > minimised. > > poc I don't know about your windows manager, but can't you start evolution, minimize it, tell your manager to save the configuration, log out, log in again--it should start minimized. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts
On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 19:38 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list wrote: > 2017-09-12 15:48 GMT+02:00 Milan Crha : > > On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 14:36 +0200, Sebastian Gödecke via evolution-list > > wrote: > >> i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > >> mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to change > >> it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > >> someone has an hint? > > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting with that letter, etc.? George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Automatic contacts
On Tue, 2017-09-12 at 15:13 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > > > > i'm trying to find a setting for this: when type the name of my > > > > > mailcontact in to: field, i have to type 3 letters. I wnat to > > > > > change > > > > > it to 2 letters. In Editor-> Settings i found nothing?! > > > > > someone has an hint? > > Why wouldn't you want it to be the smallest number of letters that > > gives a unique match--one letter if you only have one name starting > > with that letter, etc.? > > To know if it produces a unique match requires a look-up . . . the > reason for minimal length [3 in almost every client] is do the expense > of a look-up to a large addressbook. Addressbooks with over a thousand > entries are common. Corporate addressbooks can be much larger than > that. Really? How do I do a 3-letter lookup? Maybe with an index with 26*26*26 entries followed by linear search? Binary search? Hash table with every entry in it? All of these are easily extended, if you like from "batch" to "online" coding techniques, where you keeping adding letters until you can stop. And without a great deal of study, it seems to me that upkeep as the list changes would not be all that much harder with any of these. How does the 3-letter method work when there are ten Joneses in the list? Isn't it the same thing, just starting a little farther in? > > And do user's really not know THREE characters in the name/address of > who they want to send a message to? Shortening the search criteria is > addressing a problem that doesn't exist. I thought the purpose was to cut down unnecessary typing. Not a "problem" maybe, but sure a convenience. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Disable Digests? [was: evolution-list Digest, Vol 156, Issue 61]
On Sat, 2018-07-28 at 01:09 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > > I'm uncertain, if this is a good idea. Perhaps we should consider to > teach users how to use MIMI digest correctly. It doesn't happen too > often, that threads broken by a wrong digest reply are send to this > list. As you could see, I replied to the last 'correct' mail of the > broken thread and quoted the content of the mail, with the broken thread > on top of my reply. I don't know why some subscribers prefer digest, > but since some users do, we perhaps should accept this. > > 2 Cents, > Ralf > +1 I don't use digests on lists I participate in, like this one, but they are very handy for other lists where I just want to see periodically what people are discussing. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] What exactly does "preformatted" do?
On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 22:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf via evolution-list wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 22:28 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-01-30 at 18:10 +, George N. Reeke wrote: > > > What exactly does "preformatted" do? > > > > PS: AFAIK in plain text mode it only disables auto-wrapping. > > I don't know if "performatted" for HTML matters at all. > > PPS: I made a test with performatted and normal HTML. > At least when editing in performatted mode, a HTML line becomes > endless, IOW if the end of the editor window is reached, then > horizontal scrolling starts, while in normal mode wrapping is > done > at the end of the editor window. > Thanks to all who replied. I just used it successfully. George ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Unable to print from Evolution
On Sun, 2020-02-16 at 16:45 +, Paul wrote: > 3.34.3 (by Flathub.org) Mint Cinnamon 19.3 > > When I try to print an email I get the following options > Print to file > Print to LPR > My printer is not shown which is an HP OfficejetPro 8600 > In Firefox and other apps my printer is shown and works fine except > for > scanning > Any ideas? > You mention the option "Print to LPR". Are you familiar with lpr? It is an old program that does some minimal formatting on a text file and sends it to a selected printer. (Assuming the uppercase LPR in the option is the same thing.) I used to use this with evolution decades ago to print emails. Maybe lpr in your flatpack can talk to your printer--at least I would look at the man page and try it. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] "Select contacts from address book" contact search
Dear colleagues, On upgrading from evol. 2.xx to 3.28.5, I have noted an annoying change: Starting a new email, clicking on "To:" brings up the dialog "Select contacts from address book". I was accustomed to type the first few characters of the user name I wanted (usually two was enough) and I would get one or a few to click on. With the newer evolution I am now using, the search appears to bring up every contact that has those letters anywhere in the name, not just the beginning, which means I have to type a lot more letters to get a unique match. Any way to get back the old behavior? Thanks, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] auto import followup-mails to tasks
On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 15:13 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2020-03-09 at 14:36 +0100, Wiethoff, Helge via evolution-list > wrote: > > If I mark mails for follow-up in another mail client, they are > > included in the search folder but I have no visual feedback about > > the > > number of items for example. > > Hi, > that's correct, the folder tree shows only count of unread mails in > them, as you figured out (there are exceptions like Outbox or Drafts > folders). You can see the number of emails when you enter the folder, > it's shown above the folder tree, but I understand you'd like to see > that "there are new things to be done", like the count of the unread > mails, for which there's currently nothing available, as far as I > know. > Bye, > Milan > As long as I have used evolution, the number in parens after folder names (real or search) as been useless as far as I could tell, as the program has no way to know what I have read or not read when I move an email to a different folder. So after I posted years ago and nobody cared, I learned to ignore that number. I am just writing now to add my vote for having the number in parens just be the number of items in the folder, period. Or at least that should be one option. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Force openning attachemnts in specific application
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 12:54 +0100, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Wed, 2020-03-11 at 16:38 +0100, an70n--- via evolution-list wrote: > > I'm trying to remove unwanted applications from a list of available > > applications in "Open with" attachment menu. Obviously, removing > > all > > of *.desktop files in not an option. > > Hi, > if I'm not mistaken, the list contains all installed applications, > which claim they can handle given content type/MIME type. Do you > think > some of them are there in error? FWIW, I have seen what is maybe the same problem, mostly with attachments that are some Windows filetype not readable in Linux. The "Open with" list comes up with whatever files are in some directory where I was working in another window, things like C source code files, nothing connected with any *.desktop file. (I have evol. 3.28.5, didn't report this because it is sporadic.) To original poster: are you seeing actual apps on your "Open with", or files that are not even executable? George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Importing personal certificate
On Wed, 2020-04-22 at 09:53 +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2020-04-21 at 18:36 +0200, Ove Edfors via evolution-list > wrote: > > I'm failing to import my (new) personal certificate (*.p12 format > > and issued by TERENA/DigiCert) to Evolution (3.36.1). > > Which part of *Please do not hijack threads* did you not understand? > > When you have a new topic, COMPOSE A NEW MESSAGE. Do NOT reply to an > existing one. To repeat: changing the Subject line DOES NOT FIX THIS. > I got called on this years ago and learned my lesson. How about changing the code so changing the subject line DOES start a new thread? That would stop this mistake from happening. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 16:32 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but > > Evolution > > > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, > > port > > > 110, no encryption, authentication by password, dead simple. > > Hi, Did you try Account Editor->Your Account->Receiving Options-> Disable support for all POP3 extensions? I don't know what this does, but I used to need it to get POP mail with an older server. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution will send but not receive Emails
On Mon, 2020-08-10 at 16:32 +0100, John Nice via evolution-list wrote: > > > I can't manage to receive POP3 Emails. My ISP's requirements are > > > pretty basic and I had no trouble receiving on sylpheed, but > > Evolution > > > will send with no problems but not receive. It's a basic setup, > > port > > > 110, no encryption, authentication by password, dead simple. > > Hi, Did you try Account Editor->Your Account->Receiving Options-> Disable support for all POP3 extensions? I don't know what this does, but I used to need it to get POP mail with an older server. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Preview vertical layout
Dear Jerm et al, On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 01:54 -0400, Jerm wrote: > Hi there. > > I recently installed Ubuntu 11.04 and thought I'd give Evolution a > try. I'm mostly happy except for a things here and there which, no > doubt, will eventually push me to another application. For example, I > have a wide screen and have set up my preview layout to be vertical > instead of the default horizontal. > > However, Evolution creates a narrow preview pane and a very very wide > messages pane which, obviously, is pointless. So I drag the divider > to the left, making the preview pane wider. > > Evolution forgets about this when I re-start it and defaults the > preview pane to a super narrow one. Is there a way to fix this? [I sent this reply back on July 5 but it was bounced due to a greylisting problem. I'm sending it again in case my workaround is still of interest to the OP or others. -GNR] Although you have a newer version, this sounds like a problem I have always had with window sizes. Have a look at this posting: http://www.mail-archive.com/evolution-list@gnome.org/msg13662.html [The workaround I found was to eliminate evolution from the automatic startup and start it from the panel icon on each bootup (not so often as to be a real bother). Then, for me at least with evo 2.12.3, it uses the window parameters from last time.] Good luck, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How can I prevent Evolution from storing IMAP mails in filesystem?
Dear Thomas et al, On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 08:55 -0500, Thomas Broda wrote: > On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 23:41:57 +0100, Thomas Broda > wrote: > > > Since I'm paranoid, I dont't want my mails being stored in the local > > filesystem. Is there any way to prevent Evolution from doing this? I'm paranoid too, so I use POP3 and keep my mail on my own computer instead of on some server I have no control over. (I just had to throw this in as one riposte to all the proclamations on this list that nobody should use POP anymore. But yeah, it's on the server backup somewhere, I suppose.) George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problem with Inbox indexing.
On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 18:03 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 17:28 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-08-08 at 16:10 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > > > I am using evolution 3.4.3 and periodically I have the problem that the > > > indexing on Inbox gets stuck. That is when I delete a message the > > > counter associated with Inbox does not change. With Evo 2.12.3 (please, I know it's old, it's what RedHat gives me), I see this problem all the time. I found that if I just click on a different mail box, then click back on the one that's stuck, it corrects itself. Maybe worth a try w/newer version since it's so easy. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to modify toolbar buttons 2.28.3
Dear colleagues, I recently updated my home system to CentOS 6.3, which provides evolution 2.28.3. This does not seem to have the buttons for "copy" and "move" on the main mail toolbar. I cannot find anywhere in the documentation or gconf-editor how to configure this toolbar. Can someone help me add buttons to perform these functions? Or just tell me where to find the code so I can fool around with it? [Note: I recall that with an earlier version of evolution some years ago, this could be done by modifying some xml code in a directory somewhere, and I did this and have been happy since, but I no longer have any notes on how that was done and cannot find anything that looks relevant in /usr/share/evolution, and anyway, it may be different now. Also, please don't tell me 2.28.3 is "ancient" as it is the version supplied with the very latest RedHat (= CentOS) release and I have learned to my sorrow that it is not smart to try to update envolution in that environment.] Thanks, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to modify toolbar buttons 2.28.3
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 18:27 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 12:08 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > >[Note: I recall that with an earlier version of evolution some > > years ago, this could be done by modifying some xml code in a directory > > somewhere, and I did this and have been happy since, but I no longer > > have any notes on how that was done and cannot find anything that > > looks relevant in /usr/share/evolution, and anyway, it may be different > > now. Also, please don't tell me 2.28.3 is "ancient" as it is the > > version supplied with the very latest RedHat (= CentOS) release > > Linking to the ancient FAQ: > https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Is_there_a_way_to_move_the_icons_around_on_my_toolbar.3F > > andre Andre, Thanks, problem solved. Apparently 2.28 still works the same way. [I find it strange that ' verb="" ' seems to be the way to tell it what to do when my Move button is clicked, but it works.] If someone can tell me whether current versions of evolution still have no end-user method to configure the toolbar, I will submit an enhance- ment request, as I could not find one already there in a quick search. George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Settings not being retained
Dear Bart et al, On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 16:01 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote: > On Thu, 2013-05-02 at 10:10 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-05-01 at 16:34 -0600, Bart Hollis wrote: > > > Evolution 3.6.3 on openSuse 12.3 -trimmed > > > > > > In this version of Evolution, the size of the message preview section is > > > not remembered and is shrunken down to the bottom of the main window. > > > > > > This is obviously a new undocumented feature, as it didn't act this way > > > in previous versions. I am hesitant to upgrade the version number as it > > > is not available in the openSuse repositories and I don't want to create > > > any problems. > > > > > > This is not the end of the world, but I'm wondering if it is possible to > > > manually modify the file where current settings are stored, and put in > > > the sizes I wish? Would it stick then? > > > > A similar issue was discussed on the list in the last few weeks. Check > > the list archives. > > > > poc > > > Does KDE have something like Gnome's Preferences->Sessions->Save the Current Session button? If so, set the evolution window(s) the way you like and try clicking this and then logging out and in again. It worked for me (on an older version on Gnome). Good luck, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mail to a list fails on RoadRunner SMTP
Dear colleagues, We use evolution 2.28.3 on CentOS 6.4 (64-bit). We recently switched our ISP from Verizon DSL to Time-Warner cable, with their RoadRunner email service. We receive mail at our own dot-com, hosted by Earthlink--no problem there, but they require us to send outgoing emails via the ISP's SMTP service. My wife has a short mailing list of 12 names to which she tried to send a typical email with a small attachment (<120KB), which always worked fine with Verizon's SMTP. The same email sent via RoadRunner SMTP disappears with no trace -- no error message, no return-to-sender. It appears in the evolution "Sent" folder with apparently correct address formatting. When sent as separate emails to the individual addresses, they all receive it. RoadRunner tech support says they don't support evolution--surprise. They also said there are no restrictions on outgoing SMTP, but I am guessing there is a restriction on the number of addresses on a list. Has anybody seen this and diagnosed it? Any suggestions how to work around it? For example, is there a way I can script the sending to the individual recipients? Thanks for any advice, George Reeke ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
