[Evolution] Evolution fails to see some messages in Inbox
I see no messages displayed in Inbox earlier than Sept 11, 2007, though I know there are earlier ones. If I search Inbox for a message that I know is there, received in 2005, it's not found. But if I search the *Account*, rather than Inbox, for the same message it is found. Can anyone explain this? Inbox is rather large: 3032 unread 8014 total ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution fails to see some messages in Inbox
On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 14:43 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 14:35 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 11:31 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > I see no messages displayed in Inbox earlier than Sept 11, 2007, > > > though I know there are earlier ones. If I search Inbox for a message > > > that I know is there, received in 2005, it's not found. But if I > > > search the *Account*, rather than Inbox, for the same message it is > > > found. > > > > > > Can anyone explain this? > > > > Sounds like this bug: > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478151 > > > > Feel free to add yourself there, but the bug has not received much love > > from the Evo developers. > > > > There's a workaround there to get you your emails back, but they'll > > eventually disappear again (at least, mine do). > > Paul, the OP sent the identical message to the Fedora list yesterday, > and in answer to a question from me said that the Inbox is local. I > suggested he remove his cache files but he never replied to say whether > that worked or not. I seem to be confused, or at least causing some confusion: You wrote: You don't say whether the Inbox in question is local or remote. If it's remote, you may have a cache problem. To fix... I replied: The mailbox is local. Is there a similar plan for local mailboxes? So far, I don't have a reply to this. Therefor I did not remove any cache files. I also took a look at bug 478151 that you referred to. It seems to be about problems with evolution communicating with a server of some kind, and to have advice about removing a folder called ~/.evolution.../exchange. My machine has no evolution server, and no such folder. So it seemed useful to put the email into the bug comments. I see a note of reproach (?) if your comments. Fedora looks like a list to which users should go with problems or comments about any component of Fedora. The Evolution list and others like it are for people who have problems that can't be solved in the general Fedora list. Is this correct? Thanks to all for your help - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution fails to see some messages in Inbox
I've had a short exchange with Patrick O'Callaghan off list; this is my
reply to his latest, which may be of general interest.
I have caused some confusion by not making it clear that my copy of
Evolution runs stand-alone; i.e. it gets it mail from a POP server and
sends mail to an SMTP server. There are no other mail servers involved.
On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 08:52 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 23:12 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > On Tue, 2008-07-01 at 17:11 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
POC:
> > > 1) Stop Evo completely ("evolution --force-shutdown")
> > > 2) rm -f ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.ev-summary
> > > 3) Restart Evo
> > >
> > > According to http://www.go-evolution.org/Camel.Local, the .ev-summary
> > > file indexes all the messages in the folder. If that doesn't work, try
> > > removing ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox.ibex.* as well (which index the
> > > contents of messages).
JR:
I just deleted all of the files Inbox.ev-summary* and Inbox.ibex.index*.
When Evolution was restarted, it recreated them all apparently
successfully. However the original problem remains, namely nothing
shows up on the message summary window earlier than Sept 11 2007, but I
can find earlier messages by searching the account though not by
searching the folder.
If people are interested, I can post logs of the restart, which was
done from a terminal. I can't send the Inbox file because it's pretty
big (179 Megabytes) and because it contains private correspondence.
However I'll be glad to look into this however I can.
JR:
> > BTW: Can you enlighten me about the file layout in the .../local/
> > folder? For example:
> >
> > $ ll Inbox*
> > -rw--- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 186272178 Jul 1 22:14 Inbox
> > -rw-r--r-- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 267 Jul 1 22:17 Inbox.cmeta
> > -rw--- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 1460330 Jul 1 22:14 Inbox.ev-summary
> > -rw--- 1 jonrysh jonrysh361809 Jul 1 22:14 Inbox.ev-summary-meta
> > -rw--- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 5219328 Jul 1 22:14 Inbox.ibex.index
> > -rw--- 1 jonrysh jonrysh 11714064 Jul 1 22:14 Inbox.ibex.index.data
> >
> > shows a number of files, in particular Inbox.ev-summary-meta that I
> > don't see mentioned anywhere. I suppose I should delete this file also.
> > Is there much risk of permanent data loss as long is Inbox remains? I
> > assume that these files will be regenerated automatically when Evo
> > starts.
POC:
> I assume the same (I'm not an Evo developer). The .ev-summary file
> apparently contains some message state information (e.g. Read,
> Replied, ...) which would be lost. Also be sure to do an Empty Trash
> before stopping Evo, to clean out the Inbox. I think the .cmeta file
> contains things like Evo's current screen coordinates, which isn't
> important.
JR:
> > > > It seems to be
> > > > about problems with evolution communicating with a server of some kind,
> > > > and to have advice about removing a folder called
> > > > ~/.evolution.../exchange.
> > > > My machine has no evolution server, and no such folder. So it seemed
> > > > useful to put the email into the bug comments.
POC:
> > > That's because the bug is related to Exchange servers, which isn't your
> > > case.
JR:
> > I'm not very familiar with evolution internals (as you see), but I'm not
> > so sure that the bug has to do with communicating with Exchange servers.
> > Reading the comments (most of them) the bug seems not to be well
> > understood. Maybe (say) it has to do with very large folders, which
> > have only occurred so far on systems using Exchange servers.
JR:
> > Thanks very much for all the time you've put into this.
POC:
> No problem. I've been helped many times by other people on mailing
> lists.
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Re: [Evolution] Evolution fails to see some messages in Inbox
On Thu, 2008-07-03 at 11:07 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 12:14 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > However the original problem remains, namely nothing > > shows up on the message summary window earlier than Sept 11 2007, but > > I can find earlier messages by searching the account though not by > > searching the folder. > > Hello, > can you try to add column "Location" in a search view and look where the > file was found? Can you do Search->Clear in your local Inbox? There is a "Location" column, and it shows the earlier messages to be in Inbox. Search->Clear is grayed out, since no search is active (good idea though.) jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Composing in HTML vs plain text
Is there any way to set up Evolution so that messages to some recipients (e.g. my friends) are composed in HTML, while messages to other recipients (e.g. Linux mailing lists) are composed in plain text? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution ate my Inbox
On Sat, 2008-07-19 at 09:07 -0600, Chris Worley wrote: > Evolution 2.8.2 on OpenSuSE 10.2. > > In the year I've been running OpenSuSE, Evolution has never shut down > properly. Either it crashes or hangs or the system crashes. Even > when I've tried to exit Evolution gracefully, it just hangs... and I > eventually kill it. No problem... when it starts back up, everything > is fine... until yesterday. > > Yesterday, for the first time, it exited when I asked. This was > followed by a reboot. Upon restarting Evolution, it showed ~100 > emails in my Inbox (rather than ~30k). Every time I restart it, it > shows a different message count... but still <2k. > > My ~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox file is ~1GB. Manual inspection > shows everything there (I see the recent messages that Evolution is no > longer showing in my Inbox). > > There must be some sort of tag in the file that's lumped most of the > email into one message. > > What should I look for and how to repair? I have a similar problem, reported on this list with the following message (slightly edited). You can see the whole discussion by searching the archive for the subject "Evolution fails to see some messages in Inbox" On Tue, 01 Jul 2008 11:31:18 -0700 Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I see no messages displayed in Inbox earlier than Sept 11, 2007, though > I know there are earlier ones. If I search Inbox for a message that I > know is there, received in 2005, it's not found. But if I search the > *Account*, rather than Inbox, for the same message it is found. > > Can anyone explain this? > > Inbox is local and is rather large: > 3032 unread 8014 total ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to use maildir as storage format?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 12:42 -0500, Miguel Angel Cañedo wrote: > I know that there is some kind of maildir support in order to configure > an incoming account from a maildir. > > But I want to have my regular pop3 account to store all my files in a > maildir, how can I do that? I (too?) have an existing account with a large number of folders stored in Unix mbox format. What is a convenient way to convert these folders to maildir format? A Google search didn't turn up anything promising. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to use maildir as storage format?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 12:42 -0500, Miguel Angel Cañedo wrote: > I know that there is some kind of maildir support in order to > configure an incoming account from a maildir. > > But I want to have my regular pop3 account to store all my files in a > maildir, how can I do that? > > Email is my main tool at work and I send and receive a lot of > messages. > I switched to evolution when I switched to ubuntu, but my inbox in > evolution gets some kind of des-synchrnozation with the index, very > often... My experience is that maildir is more robust. This was possible in the not too distant past (maybe two years ago), but is not longer possible. I used evolution successfully with folders in maildir instead of mbox form for at about a year, till the capability was removed. Does anyone know how difficult it would be to restore it? The code for handling maildir folders doesn't seem to be in the current source. I downloaded the source for the current version, namely: evolution-2.22.3.1-1.fc9.src.rpm but grepping for maildir, namely: find `ls | grep -v help` -type f | xargs fgrep -i maildir didn't show anything interesting. Any info would be helpful - jon > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spellchecker deactivated
On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 17:33 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote: > My Evo spellchecker has stopped working... While we're at it, is there any way to keep Evolution from reporting constructions like "horses'" as in "the horses' tails", from appearing as spelling errors? jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spellchecker deactivated
On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 10:20 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sat, 2008-08-16 at 00:23 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-08-13 at 17:33 -0400, Dinbandhu wrote: > > > My Evo spellchecker has stopped working... > > > > While we're at it, is there any way to keep Evolution from reporting > > constructions like "horses'" as in "the horses' tails", from appearing > > as spelling errors? > > AFAIK this isn't handled by Evo. I guess you'd need to look into the > underlying spelling package (aspell). I don't see any problem with aspell: $ echo horses | aspell -a @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.5) * $ echo horses\' | aspell -a @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.5) * $ echo phed | aspell -a @(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 (but really Aspell 0.60.5) & phed 7 0: PhD, phew, peed, pied, shed, he'd, she'd The last example is just to show what aspell reports when presented with a misspelled word. Any other ideas? jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Special characters.
On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 10:12 +0100, Andrew Taylor wrote: > If I want to enter "special characters" (in Open Office this is on the > "insert" pull-down menu) I can find all the continental characters and > (c), (T) and fractions. > > How does this work in evolution? Both gnome and KDE have an applet to perform this function. In gnome, it's called Character Palette; you put it on a taskbar in the usual way. Then you select the character you want and copy it into Evolution or whatever. There's also an application called gucharmap, which does similar things. I don't remember what the situation is in KDE, but it was there in KDE 3. Here are a few from my Character Palette (as a test): Ć Đ Ž jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Doesn't Show All Emails
On Fri, 2008-09-05 at 16:23 +0530, Johnny Jacob wrote: > On Thu, 2008-09-04 at 15:24 -0400, Bryan Moore wrote: > > Thanks for your help, in-advance. I've noticed lately when I check my > > work email via OWA and read items (i.e. they are marked read), they > > are not in my Inbox when I fire-up Evolution (version 2.22.3.1). Is > > this a simple option I'm missing to show ALL emails or is this a > > feature Evolution doesn't have for communicating with Exchange > > servers? > > > This could be bug. But before that please check whether you have a quick > filter on. > > In the search bar, on the left, make 'Show:' as 'All Messages' . It may be related to this long-standing bug, which makes old messages in large folders invisible. http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=478151 jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Mail Filters have Disappeared
All my mail filters have disappeared, possibly related to my creating a new filter with a very long name (for this very list) -- I neglected to change the name provided by the filter creator. I have restored them from a backup, so it's not a big problem, but does anyone know what might have happened? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail Filters have Disappeared
> On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 08:48 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > All my mail filters have disappeared, possibly related to my creating a > > new filter with a very long name (for this very list) -- I neglected to > > change the name provided by the filter creator. I have restored them > > from a backup, so it's not a big problem, but does anyone know what > > might have happened? On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 06:00 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > it's stored in an XML, maybe you used some "bad" char, like "<>& there, > which made it mad? I do not know, it depends what name you entered there > exactly. > > What version are you using? I think there were some changes in some > similar part some time ago, definitely included in actual version > (2.24). Very likely that is the reason. The title of the rule was taken from the full subject of one of the messages on this list; this is done automatically by Message->Create Rule->Filter on Subject. Unfortunately I don't remember which one, but many of the subjects contain characters like these. Version is Evolution 2.22.3.1 running under Fedora-9, latest revisions. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail Filters have Disappeared
On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 19:30 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > On Thu, 2008-09-25 at 06:00 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > >> it's stored in an XML, maybe you used some "bad" char, like "<>& there, > >> which made it mad? I do not know, it depends what name you entered there > >> exactly. > > try > $ find .evolution -name \*.xml No problem finding the file. It's ~/.evolution/mail/filters.xml . The problem is that it was reduced to a skeleton, so the evidence appears to be lost. Any further ideas? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] HTML Default Size
is rather small. Is there an easy way to make it larger? Like the minimum font size in Firefox. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Virtual Memory gone mad
Investigating why my computer had suddenly become very s.l.o.w, I noticed that virtual memory usage had become very large. In particular the usage by evolution and evolution-data-server look large, amounting together to only a little less than 2 GBytes. Can anyone explain this? Following are their entries extracted from "$ ps axuw". PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COMMAND 2656 1.2 5.2 1668576 53708 ? Sl 12:20 1:26 evolution 2827 0.0 0.2 313216 2804 ? Sl 12:21 0:00 /usr/libexec/evolution-data-server-2.24 ... For an old-line embedded systems programmer, who used to think in terms of KBytes, this looks a little excessive. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] mail-notification applet locks up evolution
I have been running the mail-notification-applet under fedora10/gnome (mail-notification-5.4-4.fc10.x86_64 to be exact) and have been very satisfied with it except for one thing. It makes evolution lock up. If mail-notification is running, after a time varying from minutes to hours, evolution will stop updating or restoring the screen, and will not respond to input. The only way to get it running again is to kill and restart it. Has anyone seen this? Any possible fixes? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution locks up [ was Re: mail-notification applet locks up evolution ]
On Wed, 2009-04-15 at 13:53 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I ran the mail-notification applet > (mail-notification-5.4-4.fc10.x86_64 to be exact) > and was very satisfied with it except for one thing. It makes evolution > lock up. > > If mail-notification is running, after a time varying from minutes to > hours, evolution will stop updating or restoring the screen, and will > not respond to input. The only way to get it running again is to kill > and restart it. I have disabled the mail-notification applet, but evolution is still locking up occasionally. Here is a log of lockups: Tue Apr 21 12:48:43 PDT 2009: Locked waiting for unix_stream_recvmsg. Thu Apr 23 12:57:18 PDT 2009: Locked waiting for unix_stream_recvmsg. Thu Apr 23 16:56:49 PDT 2009: Locked waiting for unix_stream_recvmsg. Sat Apr 25 14:24:55 PDT 2009: Locked waiting for unix_stream_recvmsg. Operating system: Fedora 10, CPU: x86_64, RPM version: evolution-2.24.5-1.fc10.x86_64 . Any ideas? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution painfully slow
Evolution (evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 running under Fedora-11) is painfully slow performing some actions. In particular, I've been clearing out the the 1579 deleted messages in my Junk folder for the past hour. The status (bottom) line has been displaying: Updating Search Folders for 'On This Computer:/phred' (...) during this whole time. All data is local to my computer; no external servers, databases, etc. Has anyone else seen this or a similar problem? Any ideas what's going on? ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] What is the Search Folder "Unmatched" for?
Other Search Folders can be provoked into producing their "Properties", including the search criteria. The "Unmatched" folder produces a very uninformative error box. What is this folder for? What criteria must a message fulfill to get into it? A web search has been uninformative. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Disaster strikes -- 4000 messages deleted
One of my important folders , containing about 4000 messages, was moved into a subfolder of another folder and all the messages in were deleted. The messages are truly gone; unchecking "Hide Deleted Messages" does not show them. Fortunately I have a backup of my entire system as of just before this disaster. Is there some way to restore the contents of just this folder, or (better) to merge in messages from the backup into the current folder collection? This may possibly be related to some maintenance I did on evolution just before this happened, namely emptying the trash (File->Empty Trash) and vacuuming the database (as shown at the bottom). I am about to take a brief look to see if any other folders have been similarly damaged. All my messages are on a local drive. Any help much appreciated - jon > vacuuming the database < cd ~/.evolution/mail/ for i in `find . -name folders.db` do ls -lh $i echo "Rebuilding Table $i" sqlite3 $i "vacuum;" ls -lh $i echo done ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Disaster strikes -- 4000 messages deleted
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 17:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 14:35 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > This may possibly be related to some maintenance I did on evolution > > just before this happened, namely emptying the trash (File->Empty > > Trash) and vacuuming the database (as shown at the bottom). > > Did you follow the instructions on the tin, i.e. run Vacuum with Evo > completely shut down? I don't remember, but I suspect evolution *was* running, since a look at the folders looks like this: $ pwd /home/jonrysh/.evolution/mail/local $ ll phred* -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 133559122 Aug 24 14:13 phred -rw-r--r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 211 Aug 24 14:47 phred.cmeta -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 1839104 Aug 24 14:13 phred.ibex.index -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 5494684 Aug 24 14:13 phred.ibex.index.data and $ less phred shows that all the messages seem to be there; at least the first and last messages have the right dates. If this had not been a particularly important folder, I wouldn't have panicked, as I did, and would have asked what now seems to be the right question: How do I rebuild the data base? Thanks to all for your help - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Disaster strikes -- 4000 messages deleted
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 18:10 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > One of my important folders , containing about 4000 messages, was > > moved into a subfolder of another folder and all the messages in > > were deleted. The messages are truly gone; unchecking "Hide Deleted > > Messages" does not show them. > What type of account is Phred in? IMAP, maildir, or mbox, or Phred is in mbox form. I would prefer to get my folders into maildir form. How can I do this? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Disaster strikes -- 4000 messages deleted
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 16:17 -0600, Kojak T wrote: > How was your Back-up made? > from within Evolution, or just a copy of the folder? > > personally, I use the internal back-up in Evolution to one file as > extra, and use rsync to an external drive. > Actually I do that for my complete /home folder except my virtual > machines. I back up of my entire system (except programs, etc.) using rsync to a detachable USB disk every day scheduled by a cron file. It's fast, usually completes within half an hour, and appears to be compatible with moderate system use. So I'm content (right now). Thanks anyway for your advice - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Disaster strikes -- 4000 messages deleted
On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 19:00 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-08-24 at 16:03 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > Did you follow the instructions on the tin, i.e. run Vacuum with Evo > > > completely shut down? > > > > I don't remember, but I suspect evolution *was* running > > If so, that would explain why the db got messed up. For future > reference: *always* run "evolution --force-shutdown" before doing > anything that touches the Evo files. > > (Old Unix saying: Everyone runs "rm -rf /" ... once) > > As to rebuilding the db, as long as the actual messages are there (or > can be recovered from your backup) you can just delete the > various .cmeta and .index files and Evo will recreate them when it > starts up. Thanks, worked like a champ. Also performance much improved and a few old messages, apparently lost in the cracks, turned up in the Junk folder. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Strange new folder
A folder named gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general has just appeared; I don't remember creating it. It can't be deleted. Right-click->Properties does not produce the usual popup. In $HOME/.evolution/mail/local it appears as a directory containing a single file named folders.db . How this folder was created? How can it be deleted? Evolution has been acting weirder and weirder lately, losing messages, moving folders into subfolders of others, crashing frequently, etc. What would be a more reliable mail reader? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 18:19 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 14:03 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > A folder named gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general has just appeared; I > > don't remember creating it. It can't be deleted. > > Right-click->Properties does not produce the usual popup. In > > $HOME/.evolution/mail/local it appears as a directory containing a > > single file named folders.db . > > Presumably you subscribed to the Gmane NNTP server. The folder doesn't > contain mail but news articles from the Fedora group. I don't remember doing this. Certainly never intended to. In fact (as noted) the directory is empty except for the index file. > > How was this folder created? How can it be deleted? > > Unsubscribe from Gmane. How do I unsuscribe? How (for that matter) do I subscribe? Google is uninformative. Likewise evolution help. To get rid of the folder, I assume I could simply: $ rm -rf .evolution/mail/local/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general but thought it would be a better idea to consult with experts before doing this. > > Evolution has been acting weirder and weirder lately, losing messages, > > moving folders into subfolders of others, crashing frequently, etc. > > None of that has been happening to me. Try moving ~/.evolution to one > side and creating a new one. I suppose this would work, since it would probably remove one of the causes of the problem, namely a large number of messages in local folders. I recently cleaned up my ~/.evolution by emptying the trash and deleting all of the local index files, so that evolution would re-create them when started. Things got better for a few days, then reverted to their original bad state. In more detail, evolution becomes unresponsive 3 or 4 times a day. It doesn't exactly crash, since it is sometimes still running, and responding to some kinds of stimuli; clicking the "X" on the decoration, sometimes produces a system popup asking if the program should be killed, and sometimes doesn't. > Also, if you want to report problems, it's important to state which > version of Evo you have, what platform it's running on, and what kind of > mail is giving trouble (POP, IMAP, Exchange, ...). Sorry, you're quite right. $ evolution --version GNOME evolution 2.26.3 $ uname -rs Linux 2.6.29.6-217.2.16.fc11.jon.x86_64 I'm running Fedora-11 with all upgrades installed. All mail folders are local. > > What would be a more reliable mail reader? > > This is probably not the best place to ask that question ... Just as you say. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange new folder
On Thu, 2009-09-03 at 15:44 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > ... > Open Edit->Preferences. If you subscribed to Gmane you'll see an account > (which could be called anything but should be something other than your > regular accounts). Click on the tick box to disable it and it will > disappear from the folder list. > > If there is no such account, then something is screwed up but it's hard > to say what. In any case, if you're going to modify anything > under .evolution remember always to --force-shutdown first. Something is screwed up. I'll delete the folder (after shutting evo down). > > All mail folders are local. > > Do you mean that all your mail is all POP-based, or that there's an > independent daemon doing local delivery? All my mail is POP-based and stored locally. I have run fetchmail in the past, but not for the last few years. Maybe it's time to try it out again. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Highlighting Background
I have just received an email (extract below) with the background of some text highlighted in yellow. Is there any way to compose an email like this in evolution? Of course, it's easy to compose email with colored text. Thanks - jon > Here’s how and when we need your help > The city council has asked Public Works staff to review the current > city guidelines and recommend new criteria over and above the CPUC > requirements for these projects, which do not include Public Safety as > a criterion for undergrounding. There is a meeting on September 29 at > which we hope you will help us speak out. I’ll provide what time and > where as soon as details are confirmed. > ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Highlighting Background
On Sun, 2009-09-13 at 16:52 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > have just received an email (extract below) with the background of > some text highlighted in yellow. Is there any way to compose an email > like this in evolution? Of course, it's easy to compose email with > colored text. > > Thanks - jon > > > Here’s how and when we need your help > > The city council has asked Public Works staff to review the current > > city guidelines and recommend new criteria over and above the CPUC > > requirements for these projects, which do not include Public Safety > > as a criterion for undergrounding. There is a meeting on September > > 29 at which we hope you will help us speak out. I’ll provide what > > time and where as soon as details are confirmed. I assume not, since the yellow background no longer appears in the message when it was sent back to me by the evolution list server. It appeared in evolution's message composer, but now it is gone. Sorry if you were confused. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail file corrupt
On Tue, 2009-09-29 at 10:01 +0200, opensou...@webmail.co.za wrote: > hi > > I was composing an e-mail when the power went out. Now I cannot start/use > evolution. It starts up but ten freezes with a message in the right panel > "searching folders". > > Please I have important business e-mails in there. Can I recover it? and how? > > I run Ubuntu 9.04. Is your mail archive local or on a server? If it's local, this has worked for me. If it's on a server, ask someone else: Change directories to ~/.evolution/mail/local You will see a large number of files of the forms: ... Inbox Inbox.cmeta Inbox.ibex.index Inbox.ibex.index.data ... The files of the form *.cmeta, *.ibex.index, and *.ibex.index.data are indexes into the data file, here Inbox. To fix things: 1. Stop evolution by running "$ evolution --force-shutdown" 2. Back up .../local by copying it to somewhere safe: say in ~/.evolution/mail run "$ cp -a local ~/evolution-mail-backup" 3. Delete all of the index files mentioned above. In ~/.evolution/mail/local run "rm -f *.cmeta *.ibex*". Check that all the index info is gone. If you have any subfolders, this procedure will have to be modified appropriately. 4. Start evolution, which will re-create all of the index files. 5. Make sure everything is OK. You should now be back in business. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]
Top Post - Good Bottom Post - Good Mixing Top Post and Bottom Post - Bad My own opinion - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 09:28 +, Philipp Kubina wrote: > I am working with Evolution for a month now (Ubuntu 9.04, Evolution > 2.26.1) and the instability is terrible (multiple crashes every day). I too have had chronic stability problems with Evolution, namely evolution-2.26.3 running under Fedora 11 with all upgrades on an x86_64 system. Several times a day evolution crashes, doesn't respond to input or refresh its window. Generally, if I click on the window decoration to delete the window, the window manager (gnome) puts up an error box that evolution is not responding and asking if I want it killed. When I respond yes and restart evolution it runs fine for a while, then crashes again after a while. Sometimes no box appears (evolution must be responding to a message from the window manager, though nothing is visible on the screen), and in this case evolution has to be killed from a command window. All of these crashes seem to be quite random: the evolution window can be visible on hidden (when visible) displaying or composing mail or doing nothing. Has there been any progress fixing these crashes lately? Evolution-2.26.3 is the latest from the Fedora repositories, but the evolution web site states that 2.28.0 is now out. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Top Post - Bottom Post [ was Re: stability/Jewett ]
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 13:29 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 10:09 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > >Top Post - Good > > Bottom Post - Good > > Mixing Top Post and Bottom Post - Bad > > How about a thread where some people top-post and others bottom-post > (leading to a mixture of both styles in the same quoted message)? If Precisely ... what we should *not* do. On technical mailing lists, where posting is customarily at the bottom, I bottom post. On business and personal lists, (and my neighborhood list), where posting is customarily at the top, I top post. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
There should be one. That is of the form: Reply-To: evolution-list@gnome.org Recently (and not for the first time) I hit Reply to a posting rather than Reply-to-All, and send a message to a poster when I meant to send it to the list. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 17:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Have you reported them? Don't assume the devels know that there's a > problem, and don't just report it here as most devels don't read the > list. Well, I did it. Now I feel like an idiot. Briefly the description is "Evolution freezes. Start it and watch it crash." If I were a developer, I'd go right on to something else. == The actual bugzilla entry follows == Summary: Evolution freezes frequently Description: Description of problem: Several times a day evolution freezes, doesn't respond to input or refresh its window. Generally, if I click on the window decoration to delete the window, the window manager (gnome) puts up an error box that evolution is not responding and asking if I want it killed. When I respond yes and restart evolution it runs fine for a while, then crashes again after a while. Sometimes no box appears (evolution must be responding to a message from the window manager, though nothing is visible on the screen), and in this case evolution has to be killed from a command window. All of these crashes seem to be quite random: the evolution window can be visible on hidden (when visible) displaying or composing mail or doing nothing. Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 How reproducible: Not very. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Start Evolution 2. Wait for it to freeze Actual results: Evolution freezes Expected results: Evolution continues to run OK Additional info: I know this is not very helpful, but I have been advised to post this to the bugzilla, since developers don't follow the evolution mailing list. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Reply-To: field on the evolution list
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:56 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 15:38 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > There should be one. That is of the form: > > Reply-To: evolution-list@gnome.org > > > > Recently (and not for the first time) I hit Reply to a posting rather > > than Reply-to-All, and send a message to a poster when I meant to send > > it to the list. > > > > It's another religious issue - as I see it, the message in your inbox is > "From:" a person, so hitting reply should make that reply go to that > person, not to a few thousand other people as well. I've seen worse > embarrassing miss-posts on mailing lists set with the Reply-To: header > of the type you suggest than the mild annoyance that you got when your > mail went to an individual rather than the list. I see your point and take back my request. > If you want the message to go to the mailing list, hit "Reply To > List" (Ctrl-L), not "Reply to All", that will make your reply go to the > proper place as derived from the mail headers and makes sure the person > you are replying to doesn't get two copies. (Another bit of netiquette > that seems to be forgotten about.) Thanks for the magic. I'll use it in the future. What would be *really* nice would be for evolution (this list is about evolution) to have a icon for this purpose in the panels at the top of the windows. What would be *really* *really* nice would be to allow the user to choose which icons appear in these panels. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 18:36 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 16:00 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 17:09 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Have you reported them? Don't assume the devels know that there's a > > > problem, and don't just report it here as most devels don't read the > > > list. > > > > Well, I did it. Now I feel like an idiot. Briefly the description > > is "Evolution freezes. Start it and watch it crash." If I were a > > developer, I'd go right on to something else. > > You said earlier that it crashed, which isn't what your BZ report says. > Crashing and freezing are different things. In many ways debugging a > crash is much easier since you can get a core dump. Debugging a freeze > means trying to narrow down the exact conditions that make it occur. Quite right. I realized when going over the thread that I should have described the problem as a freeze and not a crash. I suspect my description would have made this clear, since the window remained in existence (otherwise how could I have closed it), as it would not have in a crash, but describing the problem as a freeze makes the report much clearer. > Also, when mentioning a BZ report here on the list it's conventional to > give the bug number (or better, the URL of the BZ page) in case someone > wants to add anything. Also quite right. It's bug 528393. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528393 jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] New feature for Evolution
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 23:42 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > If you mean http://bugzilla.gnome.org (which is where you need to create > a login to report bugs and enhancement requests such as this one), what > exactly is the problem? I have been filing my bugs at RedHat's Bugzilla, namely: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/index.cgi thinking that the gnome project was being managed by RedHat. Should I refile them at the gnome bugzilla? jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > recommend the OP to take a look at > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570438 since it's an > LDAP-related problem I reported in February which Srini gave me a lot of > help with (hint: turn off spam address checking on slow remote LDAP > servers) OP writes: All the mail on my system is local. Mail is brought into the system using POP. I expect to add this to BugZilla when I answer some other pending questions. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:50 -0400, Ben May wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > > > recommend the OP to take a look at > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570438 since it's an > > > LDAP-related problem I reported in February which Srini gave me a lot of > > > help with (hint: turn off spam address checking on slow remote LDAP > > > servers) > > > > OP writes: > > All the mail on my system is local. Mail is brought into the system > > using POP. I expect to add this to BugZilla when I answer some other > > pending questions. > > > > jon > > I just wanted to add that I have absolutely no stability or performance > problems with Evolution Mail. At least not since I gave up on the MAPI > plugin which was causing MASSIVE memory leaks. > > Of course I have a very burly system... OP forgot to add a description of his system, which is: 4 processor x86_64 with 8 Gb Memory Fairly reliable DSL connection jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:52 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:47 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 09:59 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > In this case that's right. In fact now that I've had some sleep I'd > > > recommend the OP to take a look at > > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=570438 since it's an > > > LDAP-related problem I reported in February which Srini gave me a lot of > > > help with (hint: turn off spam address checking on slow remote LDAP > > > servers) > > > > OP writes: > > All the mail on my system is local. Mail is brought into the system > > using POP. I expect to add this to BugZilla when I answer some other > > pending questions. > > Think again. The specific bug is that Evo is hanging because it's > checking a slow/unreliable remote LDAP server for valid addresses so as > not to file mail as Junk. AFAIK that doesn't depend on how you actually > receive the mail. The relevant options are two tickboxes under > Preferences->Mail Preferences->Junk. If you set "Do not mark messages as > junk if sender is in my address book" then you should also set "Lookup > in local address book only" unless you have full confidence in your LDAP > service. Very shrewd comment. In fact "Lookup in local address book only" was *not* checked -- now it is. Maybe things will get better. Except that 1. If this is causing problems, I would expect the problems to be worst when the program starts up, loads a lot of mail and checks it for spam. Nothing like that. 2. I don't have LDAP servers specified for any of my address books. All are local. But this could explain why messages from people in my default address book are getting into my Junk folder. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 15:02 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > These types of problems almost always require a stack trace of the > hung-up process. I have a neat little script which I use to get stack > traces: Thanks. Evolution has just hung, and I have put the script to use. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] stability/stability
On Thu, 2009-10-15 at 11:43 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 15:02 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > > I have a neat little script which I use to get stack > > traces: > > Good stuff! I modified it to just display the output on stdout, then I > can put it where I want it by hand. > > Just a note: if you add "set pagination off" to your GDB script, then > you don't have to worry about the "type to continue" messages, > redirecting from /dev/null, etc. > > I think I'll try to integrate this with my Makefile so that it grabs > core dump stacktraces by default when a core happens. Can you post an email with your latest version included or attached? Hopefully without the apport-unpack stuff, which isn't available on Fedora (though it would be a good idea to have something like this in Fedora). Thanks in advance - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] attachment.dat
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 15:50 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 09:06 -0500, Todd Hicks wrote: > > I forgot to mention I have the Mail Preferences > HTML Messages > > > Plain Text Mode to "Only ever show PLAIN". > > Hi, > yes, that's doing it. It couldn't find the text/plain part, and hidden > your text/html part (the only part being in the mail) as an attachment. > By the way, the name should be attachment.html (not .dat), if I recall > correctly, and it should be expandable inline in the preview pane. > > Alternatively, you can set the middle option, the "Prefer PLAIN". > > Anyway, what you described sounds pretty same as > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=470291 > Bye, > Milan All this may be related to a minor problem that I've seen lately, that messages are shown as having attachments when nothing is actually attached. All of these messages have embedded text with an internal delimiters like: --===1279641514== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline <...Content Deleted...> --===1279641514==-- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] yet another newb question
On Thu, 2009-12-03 at 16:40 +1100, Nick Jenkins wrote: > > I'd like a "paste as plain text" option for Evolution. > > > > SHIFT-CTRL-V. I end up pasting into a text editor first and then > > recopy & paste to remove Evolutions crazy formatting. > > ... > > I agree. I often have a text editor running, which I paste into, then > copy from, then paste that into Evolution, just to strip all formating > out of text. Paste as plain text. What a great idea. This should always happen when pasting into plain text email. I too have to keep an editor running to strip out evo's formatting. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Searching for a word
I need to find messages about my IRA account. Is there any way to search for Subjects containing the *word* ira, so as not to find the very large number of messages with subjects, for example: Sviraj's new CD Urgent Expiration Notice Downloads of Pirated Windows 7 Virage Logic Grows with Purchase ... Any help would be appreciated. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No warning for message with no recipient in To: line
On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 10:28 +0530, Akhil Laddha wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-12-14 at 11:38 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-12-12 at 10:39 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > 2009/12/12 Chris > > > Shouldn't there be some kind of warning when trying to send an > > > email with nothing in the To: line? > The bug has been fixed in 2.29.x > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250046 > > - Akhil Also didn't exist in Evolution 2.26.3 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Suddenly lots of good stuff in the junk folder
I use spamassasin to check for junk (local tests only). Suddenly I'm getting lots of good messages in the Junk folder, usually about 40 per day (I'm on a lot of mailing lists (8-)). There have always been some misfiled good messages, but usually only 3 or 4, along with a fair amount of spam. Now lots of good stuff, very little spam. The situation changed some time after Christmas, maybe just after New Year's. Does anyone have a clue what's happening? System details: Fedora-11 with all upgrades in particular: evolution-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 evolution-data-server-2.26.3-2.fc11.x86_64 evolution-spamassassin-2.26.3-1.fc11.x86_64 spamassassin-3.2.5-5.fc11.x86_64 Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Font size for printing
The font size for printing is much too large for my taste, and there doesn't seem to be any convenient way to change it. A bug was filed on this in 2005: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30 which is marked closed, In fact changing the font for display also changes the font for printing. But a font that's a good size for display prints much too large. Is there a way to make the font for printing different from the font for display? jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font size for printing
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 16:11 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > The font size for printing is much too large for my taste, and there > doesn't seem to be any convenient way to change it. A bug was filed on > this in 2005: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30 > which is marked closed, In fact changing the font for display also > changes the font for printing. But a font that's a good size for > display prints much too large. > > Is there a way to make the font for printing different from the font for > display? I have filed this (or very similar) as a request for enhancement: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606911 jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sorely needed in all email programs !!
On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 12:21 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Ty Tower wrote: > > I downloaded some emails from the web address I have via POP > > When I got half through I backed up evolution, emptied it and downloaded > > the other half then backed that up . I had about 400 odd to backup > > somehow from Gmail and another 400 from Yahoo. > > > > Now I dont seem to be able to combine them. > > > > What we need is a nice simple backup procedure the just backs up the > > emails and attachments and can be added to and subtracted from without > > drama . Is in plain text and when I need an email I go there find it and > > print it out. > > > > Now before you reply , think about it . There is no way to do it now > > > There is, its called using maildir as a backend. How can I convert my mail folders from mbox to maildir format? In the distant past, I used maildir format. Then the evolution team pulled support for maildir folders. Now your email implies that maildir support is back. How can I use it? A quick Google search is not helpful. Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to mail from a local spool file?
I'm having trouble fetching mail from a local spool file in my Linux system. I have edited Preferenced->Mail Accounts->Protocol=Spool->Receiving Email to have Server Type = Standard Unix mbox spool file path =/var/spool/mail/jonrysh This shows up as just "jonrysh" in the box, but configuring the path with the symbol at the right of the box indicates the path shown. It doesn't work. No mail is fetched from the mailbox (which is not empty) and there are no errors reported. Questions: 1. Is there anything obvious wrong with the setup? Any bugs that would affect it? 2. What's the best way to get debug info from Evolution? Thanks - jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to mail from a local spool file?
On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 12:37 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2010-03-17 at 09:43 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I'm having trouble fetching mail from a local spool file in my Linux > > system... > > Questions: > > 1. Is there anything obvious wrong with the setup? Any bugs that > > would affect it? > > 2. What's the best way to get debug info from Evolution? > > Run it as: > seems to be > CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution > DEBUG-LOG 2>&1 > > (see http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml) Runs like a champ. Thanks. jon ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Getting to the "next" message
If some messages are selected by using the Search box, and one is displayed in the Preview pane, pressing "Display the next message" in the main window causes the preview pane to display the next selected message. But if the message is displayed (by double-clicking) in its own window, pressing "Display the next message" in the message window displays the next message in the folder. This behavior is new, at least since evolution-2.26, and (I believe) undesirable. Moreover, pressing "Display the next message" in the main window advances the selected message (as indicated by its blue color), while pressing "Display the next message" in the message window does not advance it. This is how it has always been, but (I think) it also undesirable. Is there any user control of this behavior? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Small font in preview pane
With the latest version of evolution (2.30.2), just installed from the Fedora-13 repository, the preview pane shows a small font, despite the fact that preferences requests the same font as other applications. The gnome-control-center sets all the application fonts to 14 pt; I estimate the font in the preview pane to be 10 point. Any help much appreciated - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] New choice box for Mark Messages as Read
Right clicking a folder in the folders pane and choosing "Mark Messages as Read" now brings up a choice box "Also mark messages in subfolders", even when there are no subfolders, which is mildly annoying. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Small font in preview pane
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 08:20 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Tue, 2010-06-29 at 22:02 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > With the latest version of evolution (2.30.2), just installed from the > > Fedora-13 repository, the preview pane shows a small font, despite the > > fact that preferences requests the same font as other applications. The > > gnome-control-center sets all the application fonts to 14 pt; I estimate > > the font in the preview pane to be 10 point. > > Hi, > is it with all messages and only with some, say with HTML messages? With > HTML messages the message content can contain font size information, > which is then used. Or you, somehow, applied some zooming option on the > preview pane? Select it, and use Ctrl + + and Ctrl + - to change zoom > factor there. > Bye, > Milan It's in all windows, particularly html, often including headers. The whole thing is very confusing; sometimes the header and the body in the preview pane act differently. It seems that if the preview pane doesn't have focus, ctrl/+ has no effect, but ctrl/- will change the font to one size smaller than my gnome default. Giving focus to the preview pane makes ctrl/+ and ctrl/- work as expected. Excepth that when the preview pane has focus the first ctrl/+ changes the font size to one larger than my gnome default. Selecting a new message initializes the (bad) behavior. It's pretty late, and I'm pretty dopey, and all this is pretty erratic, so I may have some things wrong. Thanks for your interest - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Small font in preview pane
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 09:26 +0200, Milan Crha wrote: > On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 00:03 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Excepth that when the preview pane has focus the first ctrl/+ changes > > the font size to one larger than my gnome default. > > Hi, > does that mean that you see a small font, then you press the ctrl/+ when > preview pane is focused, and the font changes much more, say like 5 > times, from 10 to 15 points, thus it sort of synchronizes font size with > the desktop and then increases by one point? Exactly. But see below. > I tried it to reproduce and it doesn't suffer of this on my desktop. I > changed the monospace and other fonts to 14 points, and then run > evolution (the preview pane didn't notice the change while running). And > then it seems fine with a simple text email like this I'm just writing. > As I said earlier, it can be different with HTML messages, where can be > set exact font size to be used on the message body. This strange behavior seems to have ceased. I remain bewildered, though possibly the upgrade was supposed to be followed by a reboot. I don't remember whether or not I rebooted after the upgrade. POC: Are you still seeing large fonts? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Strange behaviour of Ctrl-V
On Wed, 2010-06-30 at 20:29 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > I notice that in Evo 2.30.2 if I have a URL in the clipboard (copied > from a browser window for example) Edit->Paste (Ctrl-V) pastes the > *contents* of the URL as an attachment. To paste the URL itself I have > to use Edit->Paste Quotation (Shift-Ctrl-V). > > IIRC this is a change and I'm not sure I like it. It seems odd that the > more usual option of pasting the URL -- which is what I want to do maybe > 99.999% of the time -- is harder to get to. No doubt someone thought > that pasting the attachment might be useful, but I can't actually think > of a single reason why I would ever want to do that. I often complain to > people who waste bandwidth sending a page when they could send a URL. > What on Earth is the point? I can't get the (bad) behavior you describe. For me, everything about pasting URLs works as before. Best take a rest and try again in the morning. And let's hope that Evolution isn't starting to do weird things. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Printing Evolution's Calendar
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 19:42 -0500, Barbara Tobias wrote: > I would very much like to be able to print the calendar on a 4.5" x > 6.75" page so it will go in my Daytimer-type book. > > I am using version 2.28.3. I have set up a custom page size, checked > all the available boxes, and clicked "apply," but when I print it still > goes to 8.5" x 11" page format. > > Any words of wisdom? If you're running Linux, use the cups-pdf printer driver to print to a PDF file, invoke acroread on that file and tell acroread your paper size in the print dialog. Funky but it works. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Compositing Pet Peeve
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 11:07 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > Maybe, just maybe all those thousands of people who continue to top post > even when chivvied about it on lists are actually right, and those who > bottom post do it out of habit and use of outdated/archaic mail readers. Top posting good. Bottom posting good. Mixing top and bottom posting bad. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] [Enhancement] Double/triple clicking should work same as other Linux applications
Since we're on pet peeves, this is mine. In every other Linux application, double clicking on a word selects the whole word and moving the cursor while holding a mouse button down selects all words from the one double clicked on to the word on which the cursor now stands, inclusive. In Evolution, similarly moving the cursor after double clicking a word moves the start selection point to the point that the cursor was when double clicking, and the end point to the point where the cursor now stands. I much prefer the general Linux behavior, particularly since double clicking and then moving the cursor slightly results in nothing being selected (easy to do by accident). The same is true for triple clicking, substituting line for word. Evolution should behave the same as other Linux applications with this respect. Opinions? I have submitted this to the Gnome Bugzilla as a proposed enhancement. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Enhancement] Double/triple clicking should work same as other Linux applications
On Tue, 2010-07-06 at 14:03 +1000, Nick Jenkins wrote: > > In every other Linux application, double clicking on a word selects > > the whole word and moving the cursor while holding a mouse button down > > selects all words from the one double clicked on to the word on which > > the cursor now stands, inclusive. [...snip...] Evolution should behave > > the same as other Linux applications with this respect. Opinions? > > Yes, I agree, that would be handy and would make text selection easier. > > > I have submitted this to the Gnome Bugzilla as a proposed enhancement. > > Maybe post the BZ link so that others who have an opinion can track the > proposed enhancement? Sorry about that. It's: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=623628 jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] "Special" newline in numbered list
How can a newline be inserted that doesn't cause a new paragraph in a numbered or bulleted list? BTW: The shortcut CTRL/Enter may be a bad idea for sending a message. I just sent one by mistake while looking for the above function, which is handles by ether SHIFT/Enter of CTRL/Enter in some word processors. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes
I have just upgraded from Fedora-13 to Fedora-15, which uses a maildir format rather than the mbox format previously used. Evolution crashed in the conversion process, leaving me in a mixed state with a few of the maildir folders, which are (I think) in ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur and most of the remaining data structure in mbox form in various files in ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox Since I've been using evolution about 4 days since the upgrade, some of my messages are in one format, and some in the other, and some in both. Also, Evolution now crashes whenever it has to file a message I have sent in a folder other than "Sent", probably because there is no folder available of the right kind. Any advice on how to straighten out this mess would be very welcome. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes
Thanks very much for your quick reply. On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 11:33 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2011-07-05 at 08:58 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I have just upgraded from Fedora-13 to Fedora-15, which uses a maildir > > format rather than the mbox format previously used. > > Yet again: telling people the version of the OS is not helpful. You need > to mention the version of Evolution. Since I also use Fedora, I happen > to know that it's 3.0.x, but not everyone on the list will know that. Of course, foolish of me. The version is 3.0.2 > > Evolution crashed > > in the conversion process, leaving me in a mixed state with a few of the > > maildir folders, which are (I think) in > > ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/cur > > and most of the remaining data structure in mbox form in various files in > > ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local_mbox > > Did it say anything when it crashed? Is there anything > in /var/log/messages? Did abrt intervene (since this is Fedora)? I don't remember it saying anything. The crash was on July 2d. Unfortunately all the records have been lost in a subsequent reinstall. I performed an upgrade, which seemed to work, but left the yum database and the programs actually installed in an inconsistent state, which made it impossible to install updates in the usual way. This forced me to perform a complete reinstall (except for /home, of course.) Abrt, messages, whatever earlier than July 3d are no longer on the system. > > Since I've been using evolution about 4 days since the upgrade, some of > > my messages are in one format, and some in the other, and some in both. > > > > Also, Evolution now crashes whenever it has to file a message I have > > sent in a folder other than "Sent", probably because there is no folder > > available of the right kind. > > A bug in the version of Evo 3 distributed with Fedora 15 (now corrected > in updates) means you have to explicitly select your Sent, Drafts etc. > folders the first time. However the symptom is not a crash but an error > message. Which is it? Do you know the version of the buggy system, the version of the corrected one? (8-). > You can import mbox files into Evo, so that might be a way of unifying > your mailboxes. How can I avoid duplicate instances of the same message? Thanks again - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes
I have reinitialized Evolution starting with a backup that I made before upgrading Fedora. The problem continues, and seem to have nothing to do with the crash that happened when Evolution initialized itself the first time (reported in comment 3). The situation is this: Evolution was reporting an error whenever it had to store a message in the "Sent" folder. I selected "Sent" and "Drafts" as recommend by Patrick O'Callaghan, and this problem is cured. However, whenever there is a filter for outgoing messages requiring the outgoing message to be "Move[d] to [a] folder", Evolution crashes, without filing the message in the requested folder. I have reported this to Gnome Evolution Bugzilla as: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606777 Only 4 days mail lost on account of this nonsense ... oh well. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wrong Bug ID -- Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 00:52 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > I have reported this to Gnome Evolution Bugzilla as: > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=606777 This last bug ID should be https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653957 This has not been my week. Sorry for any confusion. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 00:52 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I have reinitialized Evolution starting with a backup that I made before
> upgrading Fedora. The problem continues, and seem to have nothing to do with
> the crash that happened when Evolution initialized itself the first time
> (reported in comment 3).
The situation is rather worse than I had thought. I've submitted a long
comment to bug 653957
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653957
A summary of the problems follows; there's more info in the comment to
the bug report.
I created the folder fred. It appeared to be created in local only; nothing
showed up in local_mbox, though it did show up in evolution's folder list.
While deleting the mail folder fred, this message appeared in a red error
panel:
Error while Storing folder 'fred'.
Cannot open maildir directory path:
/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.fred: No such file or
directory
The mail folder was deleted.
The folder mackay was converted from the 2.26.x version to the 3.0.x version.
While moving a message from mail folder "Sent" to mail folder "mackay", this
message appeared in a red error panel:
Error while Moving messages to
'maildir:/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/local#mackay
Cannot transfer message to destination folder: No such file or
directory
The message was not moved.
If messages are copied from a newly created folder (not "converted), to an old
("converted") folder, the Sender: field is lost. That is, the Sender field
appears as blank when the message is displayed.
If there is a filter on outgoing mail which requires a message to be refiled
into a "converted" folder, evolution crashes. (The original crash report is an
example of this.) However if the folder is newly created (not "converted") the
sending process hangs, and the message is never sent.
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Re: [Evolution] Conversion failure, Datastructure mess, Crashes
Sorry for the delay replying. I've been away from the list for a while. I thank you for your help, despite it's occasionally sharp tone. On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 09:29 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > I created the folder fred. It appeared to be created in local only; nothing > > showed up in local_mbox, though it did show up in evolution's folder list. > > Why would you expect it to be in local_mbox? local_mbox is a copy of > the old, unconverted local files from before the initial conversion. > It's not used for anything. Thanks for the info. The info "It's not used for anything." is extremely interesting, and not clear from the documentation or earlier postings on this thread to the list. I suppose now I can delete it, or at least its contents. > > While deleting the mail folder fred, this message appeared in a red error > > panel: > > Error while Storing folder 'fred'. > > Cannot open maildir directory path: > > /home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.fred: No such file or > > directory This problem has gone away for unknown reasons. > After you created the folder within Evolution under local, does the > directory ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.fred exist? What are its > permissions and ownership? What are the permissions on the directory > ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local? Directory ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/.fred does exist. Permissions are: $ ll -d .fred drwx--. 5 jonrysh jonrysh 4096 Jul 6 12:07 .fred/ > What is the output of the > command > ls -la ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/ $ ls -la ~/.local/share/evolution/mail/local/ | head -20 total 302276 drwx--. 127 jonrysh jonrysh 20480 Jul 12 22:21 . drwx--. 11 jonrysh jonrysh 4096 Jul 6 11:55 .. -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 7 Jul 12 20:40 ..#evolution.Junk.cmeta -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh13 Jul 12 22:21 ..cmeta -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 8080384 Jul 12 10:42 ..ibex.index -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 17086516 Jul 12 10:42 ..ibex.index.data -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 9 Jul 6 11:55 ..maildir++ drwx--. 5 jonrysh jonrysh 4096 Jul 6 12:06 .Drafts -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh13 Jul 12 21:55 .Drafts.cmeta -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 17408 Jul 12 20:40 .Drafts.ibex.index -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 8288 Jul 12 20:40 .Drafts.ibex.index.data drwx--. 5 jonrysh jonrysh 4096 Jul 6 12:09 .Outbox -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh13 Jul 12 20:40 .Outbox.cmeta -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 7168 Jul 6 15:09 .Outbox.ibex.index -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 8 Jul 6 15:10 .Outbox.ibex.index.data drwx--. 5 jonrysh jonrysh 4096 Jul 6 12:09 .Sent -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh13 Jul 12 22:16 .Sent.cmeta -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh771072 Jul 12 21:47 .Sent.ibex.index -rw---. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 1040308 Jul 12 21:47 .Sent.ibex.index.data > What sort of filesystem is your home directory on? ext3 The datastructures are becoming clear. It seems that each folder (say fred) is matched by files and a directory in .../evolution/mail/local of the form: $ lf .fred* .fred.cmeta .fred.ibex.index .fred.ibex.index.data .fred: cur/ new/ tmp/ with the files forming an index into the messages, which are stored in .mackay/cur . I hadn't thought to do an ls -A on .local, and so didn't see any of these files. (Why are these named .fred, etc rather than fred?) Also, what is the function of the visible files: $ lf local cur/ folders.db new/ tmp/ that is to say, what kind of messages are stored in .../mail/local/cur ? > > The folder mackay was converted from the 2.26.x version to the 3.0.x > > version. > > > > While moving a message from mail folder "Sent" to mail folder "mackay", this > > message appeared in a red error panel: > > Error while Moving messages to > > 'maildir:/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/local#mackay > > Cannot transfer message to destination folder: No such file or > > directory > > That doesn't look like a valid path, it should end in mail/local/.mackay I would think so too. But the message was cut from the error box and pasted into my posting. This problem has also gone away after *copying* a message into the folder "mackay". > The bottom line is that all the things you are talking about work fine > for everyone else. One possibility is that you have corrupted binaries > somewhere - you can test this by creating a new Linux account and > setting up evolution on that - you don't need to connect it to a server > or download any mail or convert anything. You should be able to do the > operations you are talking about (like creat
[Evolution] Unable to receive mail [was conversion failure...]
Sorry to trouble you with continued problems...
I have created a new account for myself using KDE, and am slowly
bringing in data from my old home directory. I backed up my old
evolution data, started evolution in a clean directory, and restored the
backed up data. Started evolution, went through the initialization
process, giving the type of incoming mail delivery "Local Delivery", the
location of the mailbox ("Configuration Path") from which it should be
fetched as /var/spool/mail/jonrysh, and the location and password for
the smtp server to which outgoing mail is to be sent. Now outgoing mail
works fine, however...
Incoming mail is never included. When I click "Send/Receive" a progress
box appears very briefly (maybe about 100 msec), about the time it has
appeared in the past for an empty spool file, no mail in included, and
the mail spool file is unchanged. There is some odd stuff in an strace
log, which is appended below. It looks like evolution is attempting to
access the mail spool file as a directory. Does anyone know what's
going on or how to fix it?
futex(0x3b869164e8, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x2388fc0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
access("/var/spool/mail/jonrysh", F_OK) = 0
stat("/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db", 0x7fffe2a698c0) = -1 ENOTDIR (Not a
directory)
open("/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db", O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0644) = -1 ENOTDIR
(Not a directory)
open("/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOTDIR (Not a
directory)
access("/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/mbox/var/spool/mail/jonrysh",
F_OK) = 0
stat("/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/mbox/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db",
{st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10240, ...}) = 0
open("/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/mbox/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db",
O_RDWR|O_CREAT, 0644) = 49
fcntl(49, F_GETFD) = 0
fcntl(49, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = 0
fstat(49, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10240, ...}) = 0
lseek(49, 0, SEEK_SET) = 0
read(49, "SQLite format 3\0\4\0\1\1\0@ \0\0\0+\0\0\0\n"..., 100) = 100
fcntl(49, F_SETLK, {type=F_RDLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=1073741824, len=1}) = 0
fcntl(49, F_SETLK, {type=F_RDLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=1073741826, len=510})
= 0
fcntl(49, F_SETLK, {type=F_UNLCK, whence=SEEK_SET, start=1073741824, len=1}) = 0
futex(0x3b968995e0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
access("/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/mbox/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db-journal",
F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
fstat(49, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10240, ...}) = 0
access("/home/jonrysh/.local/share/evolution/mail/mbox/var/spool/mail/jonrysh/folders.db-wal",
F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
fstat(49, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=10240, ...}) = 0
BTW: I'm also having trouble with **very** small fonts. There are
instructions on the web about how to fix this by starting the gnome
configuration server, but they are for gnome-2.x, while I'm running
Fedora-15, which includes the very different gnome-3.x
thanks - jon
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Re: [Evolution] Unable to receive mail [was conversion failure...]
Patrick O'Callaghan writes: > Clearly the configuration is wrong. Evolution thinks > that /var/spool/mail/jonrysh is your actual local mailstore, whereas in > fact it's the mail spool file (and of course not a directory). My setup > is exactly the same (and has always been so) and it works, so I've no > idea why you're getting this error, but conceivably it's because it's a > fresh installation, recalling that Evo 3.x now uses maildir rather than > mbox -- though I don't see why that should affect the spool file. > > You might try selecting "Standard Unix mail spool file" instead of > "Local Delivery". I have done this, and (as a bonus) have tried selecting "Standard Unix mbox spool directory" with the directory location set to /var/spool/mail. All without success, though I only have an strace for "Local delivery". In the past I have had versions of evolution where the actual control files don't match what's in the GUI and have edited them by hand, but I haven't been able to find the location of these files for the current version. Does anyone know where they are? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Font Control under KDE
I have just switched from gnome to KDE (since I don't like gnome's new window model). Unfortunately, evolution seems to take its font control only from gnome. Evolution's internal font control doesn't seem to do anything, nor does KDE font control. Does anyone know how to control evolution's fonts under KDE? In the past, I ran a gnome daemon and a utility to set evolution's font size, but this was about 5 years ago, and much has changed since then. Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font Control under KDE
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 14:40 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 23:05 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I have just switched from gnome to KDE (since I don't like gnome's new > > window model). Unfortunately, evolution seems to take its font control > > only from gnome. Evolution's internal font control doesn't seem to do > > anything, nor does KDE font control. > > > > Does anyone know how to control evolution's fonts under KDE? In the > > past, I ran a gnome daemon and a utility to set evolution's font size, > > but this was about 5 years ago, and much has changed since then. > > > You need to install 'gnome-tweak-tool' and with that you can alter the > Gnome 3 font settings. > > It may be easier to use Gnome to get things setup correctly with > Evolution, then switch back to kde. (And you never know, you might get > to like Gnome 3 - I was skeptical, but persevered with it and now Gnome > 2 feels very dated!) I tried Gnome 3 for about a week, and the more I used it, the less I liked it. The way I use my system -- a lot of switching between windows -- works easier under the old M$/Apple/Xerox desktop model than under the Gnome 3 model. "There's no arguing about taste said the old lady as she kissed her cow." All the best - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font Control under KDE
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 09:54 -0400, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm using Linux, Fedora-15, to be exact. Foolish of me not to have mentioned it. Can you tell me which Fedora rpm provides the functionality of Qt-gtk? There's no file of that name on my system and no rpm available that mentions it. Have you tried it? According to its development site, http://code.google.com/p/gtk-qt-engine/ , it's not under active maintenance. Thanks - jon > The way to regulate the appearance of Gnome under KDE, at least until > Gnome 2.32, is by Qt-gtk module that configures fonts and unifies the > look of GTK programs with the KDE look. > What Operative System are you using? > 2011/7/17 Jonathan Ryshpan > > I have just switched from gnome to KDE (since I don't like > gnome's new > window model). Unfortunately, evolution seems to take its font > control > only from gnome. Evolution's internal font control doesn't > seem to do > anything, nor does KDE font control. > > Does anyone know how to control evolution's fonts under KDE? > In the > past, I ran a gnome daemon and a utility to set evolution's > font size, > but this was about 5 years ago, and much has changed since > then. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font Control under KDE
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 14:40 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-16 at 23:05 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I have just switched from gnome to KDE (since I don't like gnome's new > > window model). Unfortunately, evolution seems to take its font control > > only from gnome. Evolution's internal font control doesn't seem to do > > anything, nor does KDE font control. > > > > Does anyone know how to control evolution's fonts under KDE? In the > > past, I ran a gnome daemon and a utility to set evolution's font size, > > but this was about 5 years ago, and much has changed since then. > > > You need to install 'gnome-tweak-tool' and with that you can alter the > Gnome 3 font settings. > > It may be easier to use Gnome to get things setup correctly with > Evolution, then switch back to kde. (And you never know, you might get > to like Gnome 3 - I was skeptical, but persevered with it and now Gnome > 2 feels very dated!) I have done this. Started gnome from login, got fonts in evolution to be the size I want, and switched back to KDE. No change in evolution's font size. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font Control under KDE
On Sun, 2011-07-17 at 09:54 -0400, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: Thanks for the info. I'm using Linux, Fedora-15, to be exact. Foolish of me not to have mentioned it. Can you tell me which Fedora rpm provides the functionality of Qt-gtk? There's no file of that name on my system and no rpm available that mentions it. Thanks - jon > The way to regulate the appearance of Gnome under KDE, at least until > Gnome 2.32, is by Qt-gtk module that configures fonts and unifies the > look of GTK programs with the KDE look. > What Operative System are you using? > 2011/7/17 Jonathan Ryshpan > > I have just switched from gnome to KDE (since I don't like > gnome's new > window model). Unfortunately, evolution seems to take its font > control > only from gnome. Evolution's internal font control doesn't > seem to do > anything, nor does KDE font control. > > Does anyone know how to control evolution's fonts under KDE? > In the > past, I ran a gnome daemon and a utility to set evolution's > font size, > but this was about 5 years ago, and much has changed since > then. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 3.1.x
As you may remember, I've been running the Evolution mail system under Fedora-15/KDE for about a month now, and it has some very serious problems, which I can summarize as: 1. It ignores font control from the KDE Settings->Applications Appearance window, both KDE font control and GTK+ font control, also its own internal font control window. 2. It has trouble sending messages to an SMTP server, sometimes taking a l-o-n-g time, sometimes timing out. This can be temporarily cured by restarting it 3. It crashes when a filter attempts to refile an outgoing message. 4. It often asks if I want to recover messages that have never been lost. 5. It often locks up receiving mail from a remote POP3 server. I can live with these, except for items 1 and 2, since I have workarounds. My system versions are: * Fedora-15 * KDE 4.6.5 * gnome-3.0.x * evolution-3.0.2-3 * all running on a 4 processor x86_64 system I'd like to try out evolution 3.1.x, which seems to be stuck somewhere in the pipeline, so I downloaded the latest evolution-3.1.4-1.fc16, from koji. Unfortunately it won't run, nor will the source build, due to incompatibilities between the versions on koji, which are for fc16 and my current fc15 system. Questions: * Do you expect to have an evolution-3.1.x available on updates (or wherever) in the near future * if not, is there any simple way to get the versions on koji to install or build on my system? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.1.x
Thanks very much for this long informative reply. As you see I am extremely unhappy with evolution, and would dump it, except that I am even more unhappy with the competition. A sad situation! Comments follow. On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 18:57 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 09:45 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > As you may remember, I've been running the Evolution mail system under > > Fedora-15/KDE for about a month now, and it has some very serious > > problems, which I can summarize as: > > 1. It ignores font control from the KDE Settings->Applications > > Appearance window, both KDE font control and GTK+ font > > control, also its own internal font control window. > > I can't speak for the KDE part, but for the GNOME part this should be > fixed by https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=655002 . There is no > stable release including the fix yet, though. I surmise from this that evolution's fonts are controlled by gconf-editor, which manages a tree of control variables for evolution. The only relevant section I can find is /apps/evolution/mail/display/fonts, which says evolution should use a 14 point custom font. This is what I've set in Evolution->Preferences->Message Display but not what evolution does. Should use gsettings instead? > > 1. It has trouble sending messages to an SMTP server, sometimes > > taking a l-o-n-g time, sometimes timing out. This can be > > temporarily cured by restarting it > > I wonder if CAMEL_DEBUG=all could provide some debug output. See > http://projects.gnome.org/evolution/bugs.shtml Is there any standard way to show just the communication between evolution and the smtp server? Or should I dump out everything using CAMEL_DEBUG=all and build a filter? > > 1. It crashes when a filter attempts to refile an outgoing > > message. > > A crash report with a good stacktrace in bugzilla.gnome.org is welcome. > See http://live.gnome.org/GettingTraces for a how-to. The Details link > in the last sentence explains how to use gdb for this. Make sure to have > sufficient debug packages installed (but gdb will tell you about this > anyway). I have already done this, in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653957 . The problem is reported to have been fixed in 3.0.3, which is not available in the updates repo, nor on koji. > > I'd like to try out evolution 3.1.x, which seems to be stuck somewhere > > in the pipeline, so I downloaded the latest evolution-3.1.4-1.fc16, > > from koji. Unfortunately it won't run, nor will the source build, due > > to incompatibilities between the versions on koji, which are for fc16 > > and my current fc15 system. > > JHBuild might be an option: http://live.gnome.org/Jhbuild . Note that > https://live.gnome.org/JhbuildDependencies/Fedora is slightly outdated > and does not list Fedora 15 (yet) so you'll run into some issues when > using jhbuild that will require installing additional packages. Looks interesting, but appears to have a major learning curve, particularly if it doesn't support fc15. > > Questions: > > * Do you expect to have an evolution-3.1.x available on updates > > (or wherever) in the near future > > 3.1.x is unstable, so I do hope that no serious distro ships it in their > updates for a stable distro. > To provide a Fedora-specific answer: Either use Fedora 16 or use > Rawhide. Both are unstable and might eat your computer. Thanks for the tip. I had the impression that Suse had released it, but only because I misunderstood their web site. > > * if not, is there any simple way to get the versions on koji to > > install or build on my system? > > That's really a question for a Fedora mailing list, as upstream GNOME > has nothing to do with distributions' infrastructure and packaging. Quite right. ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 3.0.3 -- when?
I've been running the Evolution mail system under Fedora-15/KDE for about 6 weeks now, and it has some very serious problems, which I can summarize as: 1. It ignores font control from the KDE Settings->Applications Appearance window, both KDE font control and GTK+ font control, also its own internal font control window. 2. It has trouble sending messages to an SMTP server, sometimes taking a l-o-n-g time, sometimes timing out. This can be temporarily cured by restarting it 3. It crashes when a filter attempts to refile an outgoing message. 4. It often asks if I want to recover messages that have never been lost. 5. It often locks up receiving mail from a remote POP3 server. 6. It often refuses to move messages, which can be copied and then deleted producing the same effect. I have read that after a single message has been copied into a folder it will then always be possible to move messages into the folder; but this is not so. 7. Deleted messages often do not disappear from a message list, even when "Show deleted messages" is not active, though they do appear in strikeout type. Selecting another folder and then returning to the first folder makes the messages disappear from the list. I can live with these, except for items 1 and 2, since I have workarounds. Versions are: * Fedora-15 * KDE 4.6.5 * gnome-3.0.x * evolution-3.0.2-3 * all running on a 4 processor x86_64 system There are rumors that some or all of these problems will be cured in the 3.0.3 release, which will come out "real soon now". Will the release happen in the foreseeable future? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.0.3 -- when?
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 10:50 -0400, Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > Quoting Jonathan Ryshpan : > > > I've been running the Evolution mail system under Fedora-15/KDE for > > about 6 weeks now, and it has some very serious problems, which I can > > summarize as: > > 1. It ignores font control from the KDE Settings->Applications > > Appearance window, both KDE font control and GTK+ font control, > > also its own internal font control window. > > 2. It has trouble sending messages to an SMTP server, sometimes > > taking a l-o-n-g time, sometimes timing out. This can be > > temporarily cured by restarting it > > 3. It crashes when a filter attempts to refile an outgoing > > message. > > 4. It often asks if I want to recover messages that have never been > > lost. > > 5. It often locks up receiving mail from a remote POP3 server. > > 6. It often refuses to move messages, which can be copied and then > > deleted producing the same effect. I have read that after a > > single message has been copied into a folder it will then always > > be possible to move messages into the folder; but this is not > > so. > > 7. Deleted messages often do not disappear from a message list, > > even when "Show deleted messages" is not active, though they do > > appear in strikeout type. Selecting another folder and then > > returning to the folder makes the messages disappear from > > the list. > > I'm Evolution in GNOME3 on openSUSE 11.4 and I don't believe I've > encountered any of these issues. #1 is a KDE issue. I didn't have it while running Gnome3. > IMO, #2 sounds like the problem lies elsewhere, not in Evolution. Very likely you're right. I've been waiting for 3.0.3 before doing serious investigation. > I know I've never seen #4. This is not new to me. I've seen it for about a year, under both Gnome and KDE. In the latest version of evolution it happens a lot. > Do 6 & 7 only affect local folders (POP) or remote (IMAP/IMAPX) > folders as well? Local folders only. I don't run IMAP/IMAPX. > The question remains: When will evolution-3.0.3 (or 3.1.x) be out? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.0.3 -- when?
On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:45 +0200, Bernhard Kleine wrote: > Am Freitag, den 19.08.2011, 10:31 -0700 schrieb Jonathan Ryshpan: > > I've been running the Evolution mail system under Fedora-15/KDE for > > about 6 weeks now, and it has some very serious problems, which I can > > summarize as: > > 1. It ignores font control from the KDE Settings->Applications > > Appearance window, both KDE font control and GTK+ font > > control, also its own internal font control window. > > 2. It has trouble sending messages to an SMTP server, sometimes > > taking a l-o-n-g time, sometimes timing out. This can be > > temporarily cured by restarting it > > 3. It crashes when a filter attempts to refile an outgoing > > message. > > 4. It often asks if I want to recover messages that have never > > been lost. > > 5. It often locks up receiving mail from a remote POP3 server. > > 6. It often refuses to move messages, which can be copied and > > then deleted producing the same effect. I have read that > > after a single message has been copied into a folder it will > > then always be possible to move messages into the folder; but > > this is not so. > > 7. Deleted messages often do not disappear from a message list, > > even when "Show deleted messages" is not active, though they > > do appear in strikeout type. Selecting another folder and > > then returning to the first folder makes the messages > > disappear from the list. > > I can live with these, except for items 1 and 2, since I have > > workarounds. > > > > Versions are: > > * Fedora-15 > > * KDE 4.6.5 > > * gnome-3.0.x > > * evolution-3.0.2-3 > > * all running on a 4 processor x86_64 system > > There are rumors that some or all of these problems will be cured in > > the 3.0.3 release, which will come out "real soon now". Will the > > release happen in the foreseeable future? > > > > Thanks - jon > Hi John, > > I support very much what you have written. I encounter the problem #2 > and #3 and the one I wrote about several days ago. Number 2 is a known bug reported as: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=653957 and https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=651316 There is a fix (not available for Fedora-15 anywhere I can find) which is planned to be released in evolution-3.0.3. This is one of the reasons I would like to have and test 3.0.3 before proceeding further. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Evolution 3.0.3 on Koji -- Still Broken
I have just installed evolution 3.0.3 from Fedora's Koji system with the hope that it would handle fonts, at least, better. No such luck. Problems: (1) Evolution-help-3.0.3 is missing from the release set. # rpm --upgrade *.rpm error: Failed dependencies: evolution = 3.0.2-3.fc15 is needed by (installed) evolution-help-3.0.2-3.fc15.noarch I installed using. rpm --upgrade --nodeps *.rpm Packages installed were: $ ll total 23704 -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 8395029 Aug 31 09:09 evolution-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 86521 Aug 31 09:08 evolution-NetworkManager-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 2784397 Aug 31 09:13 evolution-data-server-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 4438465 Aug 31 09:13 evolution-data-server-debuginfo-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 230165 Aug 31 09:12 evolution-data-server-devel-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 7773841 Aug 31 09:09 evolution-debuginfo-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 394969 Aug 31 09:08 evolution-devel-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm -rw-rw-r--. 1 jonrysh jonrysh 95245 Aug 31 09:09 evolution-spamassassin-3.0.3-1.fc15.x86_64.rpm (2) Font handling still does not work properly, at least under KDE. No font control using, either KDE font control or local evolution font control, i.e. Evolution->Edit-Preferences->Mail Preferences->Message Display The font used for plaintext messages is **very** small. (3) Other problems are erratic. I'll report on them by and by. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 3.0.3 on Koji -- Still Broken
On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 17:36 -0400, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 13:00 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > (1) Evolution-help-3.0.3 is missing from the release set. > > Not true. > > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=2680709 > > You may be getting tripped up because evolution-help is a noarch > package, whereas the other are all x86_64 packages. Very possibly. I thought I'd looked for it explicitly, and not found it. Glad to see it's there. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Spell checking is no longer working
I've just upgraded to Fedora-16, which includes Evolution-3.2.1 and spell checking is no longer working. System is x86_64. I think it ought to, since I have Edit->Preferences->Compose Preferenced->Check spelling while I type checked. Aspell and aspell-en are both installed. This is a new problem. Any ideas? jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spell checking is no longer working
On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 21:39 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 17:42 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I've just upgraded to Fedora-16, which includes Evolution-3.2.1 and > > spell checking is no longer working. System is x86_64. I think it > > ought to, since I have > > Edit->Preferences->Compose Preferenced->Check spelling while I > > type > > checked. Aspell and aspell-en are both installed. > > > > This is a new problem. Any ideas? > > Fedora picked hunspell back in 2008. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/FeatureDictionary > > Maybe they finally shed the backward-compatibility baggage in F-16? > > In any case, not an Evo problem. We talk only to Enchant. Hunspell and enchant are both on the system. I had hoped that this would solve the problem, but it looks like no. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Spell checking is no longer working
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 08:14 +0100, Milan Crha wrote: > On Thu, 2011-11-10 at 17:42 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > I've just upgraded to Fedora-16, which includes Evolution-3.2.1 and > > spell checking is no longer working. System is x86_64. I think it > > ought to, since I have > > Edit->Preferences->Compose Preferenced->Check spelling while I > > type > > checked. Aspell and aspell-en are both installed. > > > > This is a new problem. Any ideas? > > Hi, > I see spelling working on my Fedora 16 installation, and I suppose you > have at least one of languages in Composer's Edit->Current Languages > menu checked. Thus, just in case, is it possible that if you write a > typo in a word and that would be otherwise underlined with a red line, > then the line is light yellow, hard to spot on the first look? > Bye, > Milan Quite right. The underlining does appear in light yellow. In fact: When I choose It shows as Red Light Yellow Blue Black Green Blue Do you know what happens with colors in general? And/or how can I get red underlining? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Font problems
Font problems are less bad in 3.2.1 than in the previous version (3.0.2, I think). Font size can't be controlled, though the font sizes that are used (the defaults) are slightly larger than they were in the last version, which I like better. The mail reader for non-html messages now pays attention to whether the font requested is bold or not. The problem occurs whether Edit->Preferences->Mail Preferences->Message Display->Use the same fonts as other applications is checked or not. Is there any prospect of this being fixed soon? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font problems
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:52 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 14:45 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Is there any prospect of this being fixed soon? > > Did you file a bug report in bugzilla.gnome.org with steps to reproduce? I have now. See: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663997 jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Font problems
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 18:37 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:52 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: > > > On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 14:45 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > > Is there any prospect of this being fixed soon? > > > > Did you file a bug report in bugzilla.gnome.org with steps to reproduce? > > I have now. See: > > https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=663997 And I see now that this bug has been resolved and is projected to be fixed in the "next software release". Does anyone know when this is likely to be? Alternately, how difficult is it to build Evolution from source? Are fairly stable sources available? Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Fwd: Two instances of Inbox, one as subfolder
I suddenly have two instances of my Inbox folder, one at the top level and the other as a subfolder of Drafts. The one at the top level appears to have everything that the one in Drafts does plus more mail that has come in since 9:00am today. A screenshot is attached. Any ideas about what happened? I think most likely I accidentally dragged Inbox into Drafts (I have a slight tremor). Is there any harm in deleting Inbox/Drafts? System is Fedora-16 running KDE 4.7.3. Evolution 3.2.2 Thanks - jon <>___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Fwd: Two instances of Inbox, one as subfolder
On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 01:23 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Wed, 2011-11-23 at 21:56 -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > Any ideas about what happened? I think most likely I accidentally > > dragged Inbox into Drafts (I have a slight tremor). Is there any harm > > in deleting Inbox/Drafts? > > That would be my guess too. Depending on your confidence level you can > either just delete the folder or copy all the messages back to the REAL > Inbox, then select all and do Messages -> Remove Duplicate Messages. > > Perhaps expunge too, afterward. That's a heavy duty Inbox ya got there. Thanks very much for your help. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Messages can't be moved
Occasionally attempts to move messages fail; evolution displays an error panel at the top reading: Error while Moving messages to 'folder://local/'. Cannot transfer message to destination folder: No such file or directory When evolution is in this state no messages can be moved. I have seen this in attempts to move messages from the Sent folder to many other folders. However messages can be copied and then deleted to produce the same result. Most of the time, moving works properly. System info: Hardware 4-cpu x86_64 system Fedora-16 with all upgrades installed Evolution 3.3.2 Any ideas? ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] tnef in evolution 3.2.1 fedora 16
On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 14:22 -0500, Matthew Barnes wrote: > On Sat, 2011-12-17 at 00:10 +0530, SanthanaKrishnan wrote: > > I have installed tnef-1.4.8-4.fc16.x86_64 on my lenova laptop recently > > installed with fedora 16 (3.1.0-7.fc16.x86_64) but in evolution 3.2.1 I > > am still not able to open the tnef files. > > Evolution has a plugin for tnef files but it's in pretty rough shape, > deemed experimental, and not shipped in Fedora. You'll have to save > your tnef attachment and crack it open with the command-line tool. I found 3.2.2 substantially better than 3.2.1. 3.2.2 is available from the Fedora updates repo; you should get it easily using "yum update". jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] How to lighten up the background
I have just upgraded from evolution-3.2.3-1.fc16.x86_64 to evolution-3.2.3-2.fc16.x86_64 along with a lot of KDE stuff. In general (after about an hour's use) I like the new version better than the old one, but the background had changed from light gray (as I remember it) to dark gray. The only areas still white are the header fields. How can I set the background color? I would like to set everything: message lists, panes for messages being read and composed, etc. The system is Fedora-16 with all upgrades installed running KDE-4.8.1 on x86_64 hardware. Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to lighten up the background
On Sun, 2012-03-18 at 13:13 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > have just upgraded from > > evolution-3.2.3-1.fc16.x86_64 > > to > > evolution-3.2.3-2.fc16.x86_64 > > along with a lot of KDE stuff. In general (after about an hour's use) > I like the new version better than the old one, but the background had > changed from light gray (as I remember it) to dark gray. The only > areas still white are the header fields. How can I set the background > color? I would like to set everything: message lists, panes for > messages being read and composed, etc. Thanks to everyone who has helped me with this. It turns out that in the latest KDE-4.8.4 colors, etc. for GTK+ applications, which includes evolution, are controlled by the standard System Settings->Applications Appearance->Colors and System Settings->Applications Appearance->GTK+ Appearance in a slightly funky way, probably because of differences in underlying capabilities. I am still tweaking the appearance to get it to my liking. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] No echo on typing; Slow start
(No echo) Frequently evolution does not echo what I type into it, either header or text; this can usually be fixed by quitting evolution and restarting it. Occasionally, it "stutters"; that is echo stops while I'm entering text, then resumes after a while, showing text that was typed in while echoing was off. (Slow start) Clicking on an email link in Firefox there is a perceptible pause (5 or 10 seconds) before evolution pops up its composition window. Has anyone seen anything like this? System: Evolution-3.2.3 Fedora-16 with all updates KDE-4.8.1 AMD x86_64 1-processor hardware. Thanks - jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] No echo on typing; Slow start
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 17:04 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 14:32 -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: > > (No echo) Frequently evolution does not echo what I type into it, either > > header or text; this can usually be fixed by quitting evolution and > > restarting it. Occasionally, it "stutters"; that is echo stops while > > I'm entering text, then resumes after a while, showing text that was > > typed in while echoing was off. > > I remember something similar a few releases back, but not recently. Try > checking the list archives. > > > (Slow start) Clicking on an email link in Firefox there is a perceptible > > pause (5 or 10 seconds) before evolution pops up its composition window. > > > > Has anyone seen anything like this? > > > > System: > > > > Evolution-3.2.3 > > Fedora-16 with all updates > > KDE-4.8.1 > > AMD x86_64 1-processor hardware. > > No such issues here on a very similar setup (Intel Core 2 Duo but I > doubt that's the problem). Could you be checking something remotely, > e.g. an LDAP server? A couple of more things: I can provoke "no echo" behavior reliably by starting to compose a message in "HTML" mode and then switching to "Plain Text". In fact, simply clicking on the "HTML/Plain Text" dropdown menu without changing mode can cause this. While evolution is in a "no echo" state, it responds to mouse clicks OK, but to nothing from the keyboard. Evolution was started from a console, and has reported no errors (a very unusual situation). Any ideas on how to debug? The situation is do bad that I may have to switch mail readers on short notice. jon ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
