Re: [Evolution] Evolution not working - can't find a solution!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Barnes wrote: >> - Original Message - From: guenther >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: >> Re: [Evolution] Evolution not working - can't find a solution! >> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 21:04:11 +0200 >> >> >> On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 16:56 +0100, Peter Barnes wrote: [...] [snip] > I've used the commands again as above: Disable the preview pane: >>>> $ gconftool-2 --set >>> /apps/evolution/mail/display/show_preview --type bool 0 >>>>> Display the raw source message: >>>> $ gconftool-2 --set >>> /apps/evolution/mail/display/message_style --type int 2 > > but they don't work now. When I start Evo, the Preview pane is > still open and the warning message appears and freezes > everything. Do I need different commands because the Trash folder > is open? > > When I get Evo back to normal I will forward the offending email > if you can explain the best (safest!) way to do it. Did you --force-shutdown? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEf1dRS9HxQb37XmcRAgEzAJ9MFkJDiW2flxihr+N7dWiWv+pUHgCgop8n P5O3uoinZyRmeeNL/OOWgIc= =5M/E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution not working - can't find a solution!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Local folders are those stored physically on your machine (under the > tree "On This Computer" in the folder pane). Other folders are stored > remotely on various servers (they may also be cached locally but that's > a separate concept). Technically, local folders are stored in ~/.evolution in mbox files. (Unix, being a multitasker, has no problems running a localhost IMAP server, and Evo has no problems accessing such email.) - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEfz1bS9HxQb37XmcRAtldAJ9L/wtEtmzenJpEbSE3x7gytng5kACbBIdA LH9WlQ1i7oMc1QxBXzsyQGg= =NL+E -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution not working - can't find a solution!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Do you store your email in "Local Folders"? Peter Barnes wrote: > Paul, Thanks for the comments. I sell books worldwide and > therefore have to deal with emails from any country. However, > when this problem happened none of the mail appeared to be in > anything other than English. The last message to download was a > press release from a respectable German company (in English) > which had about five attached files amounting to about 2MB total > (I have seen the message on my old Windows PC). > > I'm not familiar with pine, ucbmail, emacs (I'm new to Linux) - > are you saying I could get rid of this last message with this > software? > > Peter > >> - Original Message - From: "Paul Leyland" >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: >> [Evolution] Evolution not working - can't find a solution! >> Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:51:31 +0100 >> >> >> We see this occasionally --- message-of-death we call it >> locally. Almost always the m-o-d is spam in a Chinese character >> set. >> >> The easiest way to deal with a m-o-d is to delete it using some >> other software. Some people prefer to fire up pine or ucbmail; >> I tend to use Emacs myself. >> >> We generally advise that spam is delivered to a folder which >> has the preview pane inactive. Very rarely is it necessary to >> see the contents of a mail to determine its spamicity. In >> particular, if the subject isn't in a Roman alphabet the >> message is flushed instantly. I recognize that this heuristic >> isn't appropriate for everyone everywhere. >> [snip] - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEftBjS9HxQb37XmcRAvFVAJsFKp5JtnvIDxdW6CsqTDFGM0IpBACgtKEP RCAsiqiPT2Q1XCzEpsxA+Gs= =0xye -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution and large mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Igor A. Nesterov wrote: > Today I have received rather big mail. It was of 80,000 text lines, > which gives us about 6MB, but other than that it was pure ASCII text. > It's automatically generated message with some sort of alarms, so > sometimes it happens. This message has practically killed Evolution and > in fact the whole desktop. Evolution generated so much disk activity > that any type of work on my desktop was impossible. I have been left > without email during critical work time, and I had to spent more than > 1.5 hours trying to figure out what happened to my desktop. I only got > back to normal when I manually edited my incoming mailbox on IMAP > server, and found and removed corresponding cache file under .evolution > hierarchy on my desktop. I've gotten huge emails before with no problem. However, my mail store is IMAP, not local mbox files. That may be the difference. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEfs+6S9HxQb37XmcRAv2XAKDXgmZU/LdFBSd1kAnSIqrTz8DlZwCg7azh oC0A+SQuCk4iCFXSJy6OXvA= =zmva -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Synchronising mailboxes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eustace, Glen wrote: > >> Evo deletes messages from the server when you expunge them. Otherwise >> they're just marked for deletion so you can undelete them if you want. >> This is how IMAP is supposed to work. IMAP is explicitly *not* meant > to >> keep multiple clients in synch with each other. > > If my understanding of how IMAP works, when one deletes (not expunges) > or replies to a message, the message on the server gets its 'flags' > updated. This change in state of a message is not reflected on other Evo > clients but is on OutLook, have MS got it wrong again ? If so, it would > be great if Evo had the same bug/behaviour. > > If a message has been deleted by Client A running evo, I would like it > to dissappear (be hidden) the next time Evo checks for messages. At the > moment the check would seem to only be for new messages rather than > changes in state of old ones. Do you leave both Evo clients running all the time, or do you force shutdown them when you leave? > On the assumption that others don't see the same behaviour, the IMAP > server is dovecot running on FC4. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEfS2WS9HxQb37XmcRArcVAJ9NsCAJnL5AJg0WGZYl+8Ryp3QEvACfTjbQ zvj2Cah5rgUb08cZaoMRT2I= =NOBp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Synchronising mailboxes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-30 at 15:38 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> Eustace, Glen wrote: [snip] > > Furthermore, refetching messages unnecessarily is not just a matter of > how fast your network is, it's also hammering your mail server. Your > server admin (me) is not going to thank you. I won't get mad if I stress my machine a bit extra... >> Make your Evolution icon execute a script that does the following: >> >> #!/bin/sh >> evolution >> evolution --force-shutdown >> cd ~/.evolution/mail/imap/$EVO_ACCT/folders >> for f in `du -a | cut -f2 | grep -v ^d`; do shred -uv $f; done > > To appease the gods of Shell programming, I'd change the last two lines > to: > > find ~/.evolution/mail/imap/$EVO_ACCT/folders -type f|xargs shred -uv An from experience, I'd shred to shred -uv -n5 > Alternatively, you could symlink .../folders to a tmpfs filesystem, so > everything just goes away when you shut the system down. That won't do any good either. $ uptime 00:35:54 up 39 days, 1:14 - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEfS0yS9HxQb37XmcRAgNnAJ0fkS78WdsF15zYmrx5aQcFXJo7VACfb0bR 2JG3ZilInaFF/oSqwIX+kts= =4iMC -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Synchronising mailboxes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eustace, Glen wrote: >> if you can open them, then the server didn't actually expunge them >> yet :) >> >> it also means that the server didn't give Evolution any expunge >> notification untagged responses, which would be WHY they haven't been >> removed from Evolution's display, and hence would not be a bug. > > My observation would tend to suggest that the laptop has a stored copy > of the message as it seems to be displayed instantly i.e. much faster > than the connection would suggest was reasonable. > > Although, I have just tired it on a desktop by pulling the network ply > out and I get a 'Unable to retrieve message', so maybe I'm wrong. > > Whatever the reason, having deleted messages stay around is a pain. Make your Evolution icon execute a script that does the following: #!/bin/sh evolution evolution --force-shutdown cd ~/.evolution/mail/imap/$EVO_ACCT/folders for f in `du -a | cut -f2 | grep -v ^d`; do shred -uv $f; done That should solve your problems. Note that shred works with the *default* ext3. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEfK0xS9HxQb37XmcRAujLAJ4rbNKvf0XXAlXUOHAtnmkpjsy0DwCfZ7PE XEXESlTkb6cayDVttfAc7As= =rUTG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] open in gnumeric does not appear for csv attachment
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 guenther wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 07:08 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: >> csv attachment shows up only as "View Inline", or "Save to". >> In nautilus, Gnumeric shows up correctly, for Open With. > > Not particularly sure if this is the case here, but similar questions do > come up every now and then. > > The problem is, that we may have differing MIME types here. Nautilus > knows about the MIME type as detected by *your* system. And every app > part of your Desktop knows which MIME types it can handle and defines > this by the .desktop files. Nautilus (and Evolution) does know about > this as well, so both can offer the apps which are capable of dealing > with that data. > > However, we do not necessarily have the same information as Nautilus has > (sniffing the MIME type from the file on disk) when dealing with mail > attachments. The sender can set a MIME type, which is not known by your > system. This is what we have in the attachment case. Saving the > attachment, gnome-vfs will check that file, and may report a different > MIME type to Nautilus than the sender of that mail provided. > > > FWIW, I have come across this mostly WRT to MS Office documents in the > past. > > The solution is, to add the MIME type that the sender used to the list > of MIME types your apps are capable of. Nautilus should be able to do > this sort of magic -- I almost always edit my personal .desktop files > manually. ;-) Isn't altering ~/.mime.types the Unix Way to associate file types with apps? - -- Is "common sense" really valid? For example, it is "common sense" to white-power racists that whites are superior to blacks, and that those with brown skins are mud people. However, that "common sense" is obviously wrong. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEemJ1S9HxQb37XmcRAl5vAJ4znqQkELvStT4cl/svSlCIw0LZOACg2y2F 5KJB+XAi+t1VUtH13G06gF0= =bV51 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution starts only with --offline option
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 K. Elo wrote: > Hi, > > 2006-05-23 13:09 +0200, Andre Klapper: >> hi kimmo, >> >> the gdb trace in the other mail wasn't helpful. :-/ > > What a pity :( > >> [...] >> hmm...when you start evolution in online mode, did you try to set >> CAMEL_DEBUG=all? if so, what is the debugging output? > > Nothing special, just: > --- cut here --- > ~> CAMEL_DEBUG=all; evolution --online Unfortunately, you added a semi-colon. In bash (and other shells?), prefixing a command with an environment variable definition defines that variable only in the resulting forked process. CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution --online -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEczbmS9HxQb37XmcRAt9yAJ4mCHtVhvDy6cBc10QvspdbzyilywCg6TZ9 LWGQ3QhaRHv8xT1d0iujerc= =/bhq -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
RE: [Evolution] Specify fonts in outgoing e-mails
On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 08:54 -0400, Rob Hasselbaum wrote: > Hmm... apparently, I've hit a nerve. That wasn't my intention, but I must > say, I don't buy the argument that this feature is not important or will > somehow make Evolution less compatible with other readers. On the contrary, > the reason I bring this up is because the HTML produced by Evolution looks > quite bad in Outlook--especially quoted replies. And since my company (and > much of the rest of the world) uses Outlook, that's a problem. I just made this email chain between my computer and my work laptop (Win2k & Outlook XP via VPN to the Exchange servers at work). Do you think it looks bad? > Oh well, thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately, I don't think Evolution is > right for me at this time. The Exchange Connector might have caused difficulty, too. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking." General George S. Patton --- Begin Message --- Doesn't look bad. What's the problem? -Original Message- From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:27 PM To: Johnson, Ronald Subject: RE: Testing HTML mail Now for the real test: what do replies look like? On Sat, 2006-05-20 at 13:24 -0400, Johnson, Ronald wrote: > Well, let's see what this looks like. > > -Original Message- > From: Ron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Testing HTML mail > > > Let's just see what this looks like when I send it to Outlook > XP. > > It's got lots of different styles and colors. > > big and littler and normal and tiny text. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "We have the power to do any damn fool thing we want to do, and we seem to do it about every ten minutes." Senator J. William Fulbright (D-AR) --- End Message --- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Specify fonts in outgoing e-mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lonnie Borntreger wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 19:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: [snip] > Of course I know it will never be added to Evolution, since I asked for > that capability back 3+ years ago and was promptly shouted down by html > email haters. Although I can't figure out how adding something to > Evolution that certain people won't use anyway hurts them... since they > can always choose to not use it, just like they don't use html email in > the first place - but that capability is there. Because time could be more productively spent removing bugs, lowering memory overhead, reducing IMAP traffic and adding truly useful features like line rewrap, user-defined line width and user- customizable "Foo wrote:". Ron -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEbrptS9HxQb37XmcRAh0KAJ9fb/JaHvX+2mTOXfaQva5M64qEYwCfeC4x QDxnyrIRNCGPHwlhn2HsvUw= =JQOt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Specify fonts in outgoing e-mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 5/19/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> This is html mail, not word-processor mail. >> > > oh, yuck Which is why I always use text mail... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEbqDbS9HxQb37XmcRAnRgAJ4tqcqFWT2boNkO2ok7SY2c7mb11ACdHCRL JqAOqhiJgcyiwg1EC3NfZcc= =FsiE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
RE: [Evolution] Specify fonts in outgoing e-mails
This is html mail, not word-processor mail. Thus, you get bold, italics, underline, strikethrough, many different sizes and colors All the things in bog-standard generic email, which should be readable on any other MUA with no issues. On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 20:19 -0400, Rob Hasselbaum wrote: So there’s no solution for this? I’m surprised, considering this very basic feature is present in every other modern client I’ve seen. From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hasselbaum Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:49 PM To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: [Evolution] Specify fonts in outgoing e-mails Is there a plugin available that lets you specify the fonts to use in outgoing HTML e-mails? Or is support for that feature planned? Thanks, -Rob Hasselbaum ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA Remember when environmental doom-and-gloomers said that it would take 10 years to put out the 750 post-GW1 oil fires? Yet they were all out in 6 months. Remember when environmental doom-and-gloomers said in ~1975 that the oil would run out in 50 years? ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Long lines
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 George Reeke wrote: > I sometimes get an incoming email where each paragraph of the > message is on one long line of text and therefore unreadable. I > can reformat it by opening a REPLY window and then not send the > reply, but this is sort of illogical and ugly. Is there any way > to get Evolution to reformat the message in the preview window > or the read window you get by double-clicking the message? > Automatically when a line overflows would be nice... No, there isn't. Evo developers say that the other MUAs are out of spec. > (I am stuck in v. 2.0.2 per RedHat EL, but if this feature > has been added in later versions I'd still like to know about Nope. > it. Otherwise, I will request it on the enhancements list.) Already done, I think. WONTFIX. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFEblCVS9HxQb37XmcRAkHOAKDRIdZFO/YQcRZCIcVrrPvPRHVbVwCffGpK AZHVRHmvS6KMaItEf3rJTRk= =sKUO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.6.1
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 12:13 -0500, Scott T. Hildreth wrote: > Just wondering if anyone knows why the Move & Copy buttons were > removed from the toolbar? Is there a way to put them back? Asked and answered last month. The Evo developers have decided "it's not necessary". -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA I wish the USA could get out of the UN. But a forum where governments can talk is too useful. The next best thing is to only pay a fraction of our dues. Or find a better forum. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] open in gnumeric does not appear for csv attachment
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 07:08 +0530, Ritesh Khadgaray wrote: > csv attachment shows up only as "View Inline", or "Save to". > In nautilus, Gnumeric shows up correctly, for Open With. > > Am i missing on something here ? > > using evolution 2.6+ Mandriva Cooker In other words, you are asking why two GNOME apps don't use a shared mime database? -- ------------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "My advice to you is to get married: If you find a good wife, you will be happy; if not, you will become a philosopher." Socrates ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] RFE
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 06:25 +0530, G Rajesh wrote: > Thank you, Paul. I got it working. > I wish two features could be available in evolution. Is there any plans > to get them included already? > 1. A plugin to scan for virus (with clamav) so that windows system in a > network will not be affected. Just MNSHO, of course, but why is virus-scanning your problem at all? People who use operating systems in a pathetically unsafe manner should deal with the resulting problems themselves. > 2. A feature to save Digital Certificates in the contacts, which can be > saved a vcard. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA I am *not* my children's friend; I am their parent. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send mail via Evol from other apps
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 17:33 +0200, Hans wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 10:15 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 15:47 +0200, Hans wrote: > > > How do I get other programs to invoke Evolution to send mail? > > > When using gnome apps and having the default mailer set to evolution the > > > programs using it (ie OpenOffice) just creates a new instance of Evol > > > without a new mail message? > > > What is the command line args for creating new mail in Evol? > > > > >From OOo2, when I File->Send->"Document as Email", Evo fires up > > and creates a new email in a Compose window, with the .ODT file > > attached. > > > > Since you say that Evo is your GNOME preferred mail reader, what > > email app have you defined in OOo2 Tools->Options->Internet->E-Mail? > > Mine is simply defined as "evolution". > > > > Thanks, didnt know OpenOffice isnt a GTK app? What libs does it use > then, just for interest sake? > > Ah, did the Tools -> Internet setting, new message now there, but no > attachment? Time to ask the oo-users list? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA In 1929, when the Great Depresion hit, while all the other tabulating companies retrenched, Thomas Watson Sr. insisted that IBM's factories stay open and R&D spending increase. Thus, in 1935 when FDR signed the Social Security Act, and businesses and gov't had a huge need for tabulating/sorting machines, IBM was in position to dominate the industry, and did so for the next 45 years. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Send mail via Evol from other apps
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 15:47 +0200, Hans wrote: > How do I get other programs to invoke Evolution to send mail? > When using gnome apps and having the default mailer set to evolution the > programs using it (ie OpenOffice) just creates a new instance of Evol > without a new mail message? > What is the command line args for creating new mail in Evol? >From OOo2, when I File->Send->"Document as Email", Evo fires up and creates a new email in a Compose window, with the .ODT file attached. Since you say that Evo is your GNOME preferred mail reader, what email app have you defined in OOo2 Tools->Options->Internet->E-Mail? Mine is simply defined as "evolution". -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time." Bertrand Meyer ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail filtering (again )
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 08:00 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:37 +0200, Erik Slagter wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 10:18 +0200, Arne Caspari wrote: [snip] > I agree, and this has been mentioned several times in the past. The big > problem as I see it is that there is no *standard* way of telling a mail > server what is junk and what isn't. Remember that many mail hubs don't > allow the user to log in. For any given setup there's certainly a way to > hack the funcionality and the Junk/Not Junk buttons give you some > leverage, but basically it's up to you to program them. Run your own mail server. Lots of people do it, and it's not as hard as you think. It also lets you pull mail from your ISP on a regular basis, whether you are logged in or not. Usually (always?) it's run in concert with spamassassin and a localhost IMAP server. Evo could then POP the emails, but I don't know why you would. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, teach him to fish, he gets mad at you for making him have to work so hard." ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.6.1 html email issue - backwards typing
On Fri, 2006-05-12 at 13:43 +0200, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 00:01 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > > > - rant on - > > html email is only evil 5-7 years ago. Or, today for systems and users > > that measure storage and processor time, or bandwidth, in terms that > > were prevalent 5-7 years ago. > > > > Today ... html email is required. It is still de-riguer on lists, etc > > ... and I am used to it being "more polite". But html email is here to > > stay, as is using the email system as "knowledge management" not just > > sending/receiving small text messages. > > - rant off - > > You surely must be joking. The argument of more space/bandwidth has > never been valid. You've never used a 28.8kbps modem to fetch email, have you? There was a time when uucp-at-9600bps was how much email was transmitted. HTML mail would have been a disaster. Even now, high-volume lists like lkml would double or treble the needed bandwidth and disk space needed if everyone used html. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "In politics it is necessary either to betray one's country of the electorate. I prefer to betray the electorate." Charles De Gaulle ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail notification for 2.6
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 05:25 +0200, guenther wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 22:03 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 01:37 +0200, guenther wrote: > > > On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 08:15 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 15:30 -0700, Scott Anderson wrote: > > [snip] > > > > I posted this a while ago on this list. > > > > > > > > You can get mail-notification to work with a simple patch if you're > > > > happy to compile it from source. I have it working with 2.6 quite > > > > nicely. > > > > > > Updating and fixing this is the distros duty, IMHO. > > > > Why? > > Because that's what distros do -- providing a working set of apps. :) > > The original post mentioned mail-notification working with Evo 2.4, > which changed when upgrading Evo to 2.6. Caring about such issues is one > of the core duties of a distro. If they are going to update any app or > library, they absolutely need to make sure that any app that depends on > it still works afterwards. > > (In this special case though we should not forget that Evo 2.6 is in > Debian testing/unstable only. Whoever opts to use a non-stable branch > must expect possible breakage anytime.) Hmmm. I was under the impression that mail-notification broke upstream (Debian terminology, in this case, for you all). -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Confidence is contagious. So is lack of confidence." Vince Lombardi ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Additional dictionaries ??
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 03:37 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi Ron; > > On Wed, 2006-10-05 at 22:01 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 18:23 -0400, William Case wrote: > > > Hi; Correction! > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-10-05 at 17:06 -0400, William Case wrote: [snip] > > > > Don't know. What I can tell you, though, is that the aspell private > > dictionary is ~/.aspell.en.pws which is just a text list of words. > > Yea. I was hoping to have just one dictionary I could save computer > vocabulary to. .aspell.en.pws has a different list of words (by chance) > than OOO's Computereese.dic. > > Oh well ! Maybe you can extract the words from Computereese.dic? Using strings(1), maybe? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "He was about as useful in a crisis as a sheep." Dorothy Eden ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail notification for 2.6
On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 01:37 +0200, guenther wrote: > On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 08:15 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 15:30 -0700, Scott Anderson wrote: [snip] > > I posted this a while ago on this list. > > > > You can get mail-notification to work with a simple patch if you're > > happy to compile it from source. I have it working with 2.6 quite > > nicely. > > Updating and fixing this is the distros duty, IMHO. Why? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "they love our milk and honey, but preach about another way of living" Merle Haggard, "The Fighting Side Of Me" ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Additional dictionaries ??
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 18:23 -0400, William Case wrote: > Hi; Correction! > > On Wed, 2006-10-05 at 17:06 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > In aspell, besides the normal dictionary, I have a personal dictionary > > in which I keep Linux terminology. How can I activate this in the > > composer. When I look at composer preferences I see only a choice of > > installed languages and no way to add a personal dictionary. > > > > Any suggestions appreciated. > > My personal dictionary is in Open Office as Computereese.dic. Is there > any way I can set up evo so that the composer has access to it. Don't know. What I can tell you, though, is that the aspell private dictionary is ~/.aspell.en.pws which is just a text list of words. -- ----- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA $ python -c 'print len(str(2**300))' 903090 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] fetchmail and mbox account
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 19:44 +0200, Ambrogio wrote: > Il giorno mar, 09/05/2006 alle 10.51 -0500, Ron Johnson ha scritto: > > On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 16:06 +0200, Ambrogio wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > You get file access conflicts. > I forget in last mail, > to not have this conflicts is possible to use some command to force evo > fetching new mails from mailbox, when fetchmail end process it? ??? I don't think so. I have fetchmail/postfix/spamassassin/mailfilter put emails in ~/Mailfilter, and Evo access mail using courier-IMAP. Using IMAP as the mail-store is very useful IMO, since if Evo or X breaks (which happens occasionally, usually since I run Debian Sid) I can still read email using Sylpheed or even Mutt from the console. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA What's the difference between a lawyer and an onion? No one cries when you cut up a lawyer. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] fetchmail and mbox account
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 19:41 +0200, Ambrogio wrote: > Il giorno mar, 09/05/2006 alle 10.51 -0500, Ron Johnson ha scritto: > > On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 16:06 +0200, Ambrogio wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm using fetchmail to fetch all pop account and delivery it to some > > > mbox account. > > > > > > So I use also evolution to read one of this account and I wold like to > > > know what appens to mbox when sendmail is writing to it for mail > > > delivery and evo is reading from it deleting read mail? > > > > You get file access conflicts. > > > > http://www.twuug.org/lists/twuug/2002-08/msg00066.html > > Tnx for reply. > It's like I thought about. > > I prefer maildir, and I used it with older versions of evo. > But now support to maildir is only to fetch mail. > Folders is like mailboxes. > > I have to check if sendmail is able to delivery mails in maildir instead > of mailbox. > > Do you know that? I can't say about sendmail, but Postfix will easily drop mails into ~/Maildir. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Conservatism in America is different than Conservatism in Europe, in that they don't conserve Crown and [Church], they conserve the American revolution, which is a liberal idea." Dinesh D'Souza ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] fetchmail and mbox account
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 16:06 +0200, Ambrogio wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using fetchmail to fetch all pop account and delivery it to some > mbox account. > > So I use also evolution to read one of this account and I wold like to > know what appens to mbox when sendmail is writing to it for mail > delivery and evo is reading from it deleting read mail? You get file access conflicts. http://www.twuug.org/lists/twuug/2002-08/msg00066.html -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA I like my women like I like my coffee - purchased at above-market rates from eco-friendly organic farming cooperatives in Latin America. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.6.1 html email issue - backwards typing
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 14:52 +1000, Justin Kelly wrote: > Hi All, > > first, thanks for making the exchange connector rock in 2.6 > > Just have an issue with Evolution 2.6.1 in ubuntu dapper > > when i reply to a plain text email the text cursor is at the top of > the page and i can reply as expected - alls well > > but when i reply(quote original message style) to a html email the > text cursor goes down into the middle(or some seemingly random place) > of the email im replying to and when i move the text cursor to the top > of the email and start typing, it types backwards > > backwards - what do i mean? > > normally when i type gnome it appears as gnome, but when i reply to a > html email and i type gnome it appears as emong If what I'm thinking of is what you are describing, this is the known bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273512 -- ------------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Object-oriented programming is an exceptionally bad idea which could only have originated in California." Edsger Dijkstra ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution stability faq
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 16:51 +0200, Hans wrote: > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 09:29 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 09:22 -0500, Bill Milbratz wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Evolution is a great product and meets a definite need on my desktop. > > > Yay! > > > > > > But its crashiness makes it nearly unusable. It's seemed to got worse > > > in the last few months; I don't know why. > > > > > > Is there a faq on evolution stability? A wiki? Any such unofficial > > > documentation on keeping-it-running? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bill m > > > > > > P.s. I'm running 2.4.2.1--the latest on gentoo linux > > > > It's probably a Gentoo thing. (Evo on Debian is almost always > > very stable, and probably the same on SuSE where it's developed.) > > > > Nope, my standard out of the box SuSE 10.0 Evol 2.4 install is also very > unstable. > I think my problems is more the exchange-server module that falls over > every now and then, especially when doing some complex meeting request Ah, could be. I "just" use a *ix-based IMAP data store, and it hardly ever crashes. When it does, Debian soon releases a distro point upgrade and things get back to normal. > with LDAP contacts in the Calender. > The exchange-sever and evol gets out of sync, I think? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Human judges can show mercy. But against the laws of nature, there is no appeal." Arthur C. Clarke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] evolution stability faq
On Mon, 2006-05-08 at 09:22 -0500, Bill Milbratz wrote: > Hi, > > Evolution is a great product and meets a definite need on my desktop. > Yay! > > But its crashiness makes it nearly unusable. It's seemed to got worse > in the last few months; I don't know why. > > Is there a faq on evolution stability? A wiki? Any such unofficial > documentation on keeping-it-running? > > Thanks, > > Bill m > > P.s. I'm running 2.4.2.1--the latest on gentoo linux It's probably a Gentoo thing. (Evo on Debian is almost always very stable, and probably the same on SuSE where it's developed.) -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country." Marion Barry ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
On Wed, 2006-04-26 at 01:09 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 22:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > I'm speechless. Was this done because some IMAP servers were buggy? If > > not, there would seem to be no justification for it. > > I believe it was done in order to fix inconsistencies in the unseen > counts on folders when the strange client-side Junk processing isn't > disabled. The Junk processing hides messages from a folder and pretends > that those messages actually exist in some other fake folder. And thus > the unseen counts in the real folder looked wrong, because some of the > unseen messages were hidden from view. > > The simple option might have been to mark the messages as read when we > decided they were junk. That wasn't what was done, though -- instead of > just being able to ask the server "how many unseen messages are there in > this folder" we now have to fetch the flags for _every_ mail in the > folder and count the ones which are unseen but not 'junk'. Man, that's just... Messy. Instead of hiding them, what if a new "subject pane" column "Junk" were created (kinda like "Flagged!"). A Stored Search (nee Virtual Folder) would list all the Junk. But would that also require re-fetching all mails? Or, just *really* move them to the Junk Folder? Or. disable Junk processing for IMAP Since I don't need it, nobody needs it. > In fact we also download the _headers_ for every mail in every folder > too. That's just a side-effect of the above, I think; there doesn't seem > to be even a tenuous reason for that. > > > By "active" do you mean "subscribed"? > > That is the definition of 'subscribed' in the IMAP specification, yes. > -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "You have to give the press confrontations. When you give them confrontations, you get attention; when you get attention, you can educate." Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] can't run any version of evolution
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 14:58 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 12:00 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: > >> Hello, I have Linux 2.6.13 kernel, X.org 6.9, Gnome 2.14.2, all compiled > >> with gcc 4.02. > >> When I compile and run any version of Evolution (2.6 stable, 2.8 from > >> cvs etc) it always crashes when I try to create a message :- > >> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x086fa3f0 *** > >> > > [snip] > >> Is something wrong with my build or installation ? > > > > Google for > > evolution "double free" glibc > > > > The 4th hit is: > > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2006-April/msg4.html > > > Quote from the mentioned article : "This is not an Evolution issue, nor > a GNOME one. This is a Debian specific issue". > I have Mandrake not Debian. I have glib 2.11. I built the whole of Gnome > from cvs head. Evolution is the only app that crashes. > I already tried the mentioned workaround before I raised this topic, but > like Mark White I had no luck. You're building from source, and didn't specify which version of glib you are using (since GNOME can run with different versions) Since you didn't mention what you've already tried, it's possible that you ran into the same version mismatch that Debian did. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Being Politically Correct means always having to say you're sorry." Charles Osgood ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] can't run any version of evolution
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 12:00 +1000, Rod Butcher wrote: > Hello, I have Linux 2.6.13 kernel, X.org 6.9, Gnome 2.14.2, all compiled > with gcc 4.02. > When I compile and run any version of Evolution (2.6 stable, 2.8 from > cvs etc) it always crashes when I try to create a message :- > *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x086fa3f0 *** > [snip] > > Is something wrong with my build or installation ? Google for evolution "double free" glibc The 4th hit is: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-hackers/2006-April/msg4.html -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The best measure of a man's honesty isn't his income tax return. It's the zero adjust on his bathroom scale." Arthur C. Clarke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
On Mon, 2006-04-24 at 23:57 +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 14:47 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > And STATUS means "tell me about *all* emails? If so, bummer. > > > > > > Turns out it's not STATUS but LIST, but in any case you can see the > > > (impressive) amount of traffic generated by running with > > > CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1. > > > > received: * 12147 FETCH (UID 12166 FLAGS (\Seen))^M > > received: * 12148 FETCH (UID 12167 FLAGS (\Seen))^M > > received: * 12149 FETCH (UID 12168 FLAGS (\Seen))^M > > received: * 12150 FETCH (UID 12174 FLAGS (\Seen))^M > > received: A00049 OK FETCH completed.^M > > No, that's neither STATUS nor LIST. That's FETCH, and it's a regression I know. It's example, though, of the "(impressive) amount of traffic" between the IMAP server and Evo. > since Evolution 2.2. It's fetching the flags and the headers for every > mail in every folder. Even if you were to prune your cache, it'd refetch > them every time it checks for new mail. > > We _used_ to just use STATUS, and it took about three lines of traffic > to check how many mails were in folders like your history subfolders. In > Evo 2.6 (or maybe 2.4) the code was changed and now it re-fetches the [snip] > folders won't get updated either though. The real fix is to start using > STATUS again for checking mail folders. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The First Amendment protects speech from being censored by the government; it does not regulate what private parties (such as most employers) do." http://www.eff.org/Privacy/Anonymity/blog-anonymously.php ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution Crashes When Sending Email - Backtrace Included
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 20:44 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > hi mark, > > Am Samstag, den 22.04.2006, 11:31 -0400 schrieb Mark R. White: > > I'm currently running Evolution 2.4.2.1 with Evolution-Exchange and > > Evolution Plugins on Debian Etch 2.6.15 > > this sounds like > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2006-April/msg9.html I'm surprised that the fix hasn't been pushed down to Etch yet... -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "What I got by going to Canada was a cold." Henry David Thoreau ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] directories to save for update
On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 16:27 +0200, Joep Blom wrote: > Andre Klapper wrote: > > >hi joep, > > > >Am Samstag, den 22.04.2006, 12:54 +0200 schrieb Joep Blom: [snip] > Andre, > Thanks!. That was exactly the information I was looking for. > Even gconftool-2 works on a text console as apparently gnome is running > (pretty useless I think). > The buggy upgrade has also removed the whole evolution package! so I > even cannot run evolution on a remote system and therefore my addresses > and appointments are unreachable! > Well, I'll start to work (and waste a weekend). Hope you didn't get this too late, but remember to put /home in a separate partition!! (So you don't have to worry about this next time.) $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/hda145130 13204 29518 31% /boot /dev/hda2 19228308 12682460 5569096 70% / /dev/hda3 19228308 3511648 14739908 20% /home /dev/hda4201859276 162921440 28683952 86% /data/01 -- ------------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA The only thing that changed on 9/11 is that the dynamite that got stuck up our ass blew our heads out of the sand. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 14:23 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 06:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 07:46 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:26 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:38 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 13:52 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > > [Replying to own post] [snip] > > > > In Maildir storage, new emails are dropped in new/, and "already > > > > read" emails are in cur/. So, even if there are 10,000,000 records > > > > in cur/, it's really easy to read thru the 100 records in new/. > > > > > > I can't see how this answers the OP's requirement. The problem is that > > > for Evo to discover new mail it has to interrogate the IMAP server (no > > > matter what its mailstore format is), and the only options currently are > > > to ask about INBOX or about everything. INBOX doesn't contain all new > > > mail because of server-side filters, and asking about everything is slow > > > if one has lots of folders, because AFAIK the only way to do it is by > > > iterating an IMAP protocol command (STATUS I think) over all the > > > folders, sending the query and waiting for the response each time. > > > That's why it would be nice to be able to do it only for folders where > > > one there might be new messages. > > > > And STATUS means "tell me about *all* emails? If so, bummer. > > Turns out it's not STATUS but LIST, but in any case you can see the > (impressive) amount of traffic generated by running with > CAMEL_VERBOSE_DEBUG=1. received: * 12147 FETCH (UID 12166 FLAGS (\Seen))^M received: * 12148 FETCH (UID 12167 FLAGS (\Seen))^M received: * 12149 FETCH (UID 12168 FLAGS (\Seen))^M received: * 12150 FETCH (UID 12174 FLAGS (\Seen))^M received: A00049 OK FETCH completed.^M Yes, I see now. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Diplomats were invented simply to waste time." David Lloyd George, British prime minister ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
On Fri, 2006-04-21 at 07:46 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 16:26 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:38 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 13:52 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > [Replying to own post] > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:08 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > Link the cache folders you don't want to /dev/null? (I haven't > > > > > > > tried > > > > > > > this and don't know about any possible side-effects). > > > > > > > > > > > > This makes no sense e.g. you might want to cache a subfolder but > > > > > > not its > > > > > > parent, or cache headers but not bodies, etc. etc. In my defense I > > > > > > haven't had my morning tea yet :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also it doesn't stop Evo from going of and getting things, it just > > > > > doesn't store it anywhere. > > > > > > > > > > For me, I would like a way of selectively marking folders for checking > > > > > for new mail - mail only appears in some of my folders (mainly as a > > > > > result of server side filtering), the vast majority either get > > > > > populated > > > > > as a result of Evo filters, or things get put there manually. At the > > > > > moment Evo takes ages to sort itself out when I first start it because > > > > > it goes through all my subscribed folders looking for new mail - I > > > > > don't > > > > > want to untick the 'Check for new messages in all folders' because > > > > > there > > > > > are some folders that I want to check - I don't want to unsubscribe > > > > > the > > > > > folders because I use the (unchanging) information in them. > > > > > > > > Do you use Maildir-based IMAP? > > > > > > > > > > No. Or at least not yet - it's on the ToDo list. Why? > > > > $ dir Maildir/.Lists.Evo-user/ > > total 1608 > > drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 23 2005 ./ > > drwx-w 64 me me 4096 Apr 12 13:06 ../ > > -rw-rw-r-- 1 me me 17 Apr 17 2004 courierimapacl > > drwx-w 2 me me 4096 Mar 28 08:47 courierimapkeywords/ > > -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 755612 Apr 19 15:03 courierimapuiddb > > drwx-w 2 me me 856064 Apr 19 15:03 cur/ > > -rw--w 1 me me 0 Apr 17 2004 maildirfolder > > drwx-w 2 me me 4096 Apr 19 15:03 new/ > > drwx-w 2 me me 4096 Apr 19 16:23 tmp/ > > > > In Maildir storage, new emails are dropped in new/, and "already > > read" emails are in cur/. So, even if there are 10,000,000 records > > in cur/, it's really easy to read thru the 100 records in new/. > > I can't see how this answers the OP's requirement. The problem is that > for Evo to discover new mail it has to interrogate the IMAP server (no > matter what its mailstore format is), and the only options currently are > to ask about INBOX or about everything. INBOX doesn't contain all new > mail because of server-side filters, and asking about everything is slow > if one has lots of folders, because AFAIK the only way to do it is by > iterating an IMAP protocol command (STATUS I think) over all the > folders, sending the query and waiting for the response each time. > That's why it would be nice to be able to do it only for folders where > one there might be new messages. And STATUS means "tell me about *all* emails? If so, bummer. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA This document is rot26-encoded, and protected from being read by the DMCA and all other WIPO treaty nations. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 15:38 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 13:52 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > [Replying to own post] > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:08 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > Link the cache folders you don't want to /dev/null? (I haven't tried > > > > > this and don't know about any possible side-effects). > > > > > > > > This makes no sense e.g. you might want to cache a subfolder but not its > > > > parent, or cache headers but not bodies, etc. etc. In my defense I > > > > haven't had my morning tea yet :-) > > > > > > > > > > Also it doesn't stop Evo from going of and getting things, it just > > > doesn't store it anywhere. > > > > > > For me, I would like a way of selectively marking folders for checking > > > for new mail - mail only appears in some of my folders (mainly as a > > > result of server side filtering), the vast majority either get populated > > > as a result of Evo filters, or things get put there manually. At the > > > moment Evo takes ages to sort itself out when I first start it because > > > it goes through all my subscribed folders looking for new mail - I don't > > > want to untick the 'Check for new messages in all folders' because there > > > are some folders that I want to check - I don't want to unsubscribe the > > > folders because I use the (unchanging) information in them. > > > > Do you use Maildir-based IMAP? > > > > No. Or at least not yet - it's on the ToDo list. Why? $ dir Maildir/.Lists.Evo-user/ total 1608 drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 23 2005 ./ drwx-w 64 me me 4096 Apr 12 13:06 ../ -rw-rw-r-- 1 me me 17 Apr 17 2004 courierimapacl drwx-w 2 me me 4096 Mar 28 08:47 courierimapkeywords/ -rw-r--r-- 1 me me 755612 Apr 19 15:03 courierimapuiddb drwx-w 2 me me 856064 Apr 19 15:03 cur/ -rw--w 1 me me 0 Apr 17 2004 maildirfolder drwx-w 2 me me 4096 Apr 19 15:03 new/ drwx-w 2 me me 4096 Apr 19 16:23 tmp/ In Maildir storage, new emails are dropped in new/, and "already read" emails are in cur/. So, even if there are 10,000,000 records in cur/, it's really easy to read thru the 100 records in new/. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The man who has gotten everything he wants is all in favor of peace and order." Jawaharlal Nehru ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting mail with virii?
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 11:22 -0400, Jeffrey Stedfast wrote: > what is ~/.evolution2/ ? Evolution has never used any such path. I'm pretty sure that it used ~/evolution2 in the 2.0 era. > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 21:55 -0400, William Case wrote: > > Hi; > > > > I have just installed and run clamav. clamscan found 49 corrupted files > > in ~/.evolution and ~/.evolution2. Some of them from restored /home > > files from previous versions of Fedora. I am not blaming anyone. What > > I need to know is can I just go into my mail cache and delete those > > infected email files? Or will that screw up indexing or something? > > > > Regards Bill -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "If winning isn't everything, why do they keep score?" Vince Lombardi ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 13:52 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:39 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > [Replying to own post] > > > > On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 08:08 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Link the cache folders you don't want to /dev/null? (I haven't tried > > > this and don't know about any possible side-effects). > > > > This makes no sense e.g. you might want to cache a subfolder but not its > > parent, or cache headers but not bodies, etc. etc. In my defense I > > haven't had my morning tea yet :-) > > > > Also it doesn't stop Evo from going of and getting things, it just > doesn't store it anywhere. > > For me, I would like a way of selectively marking folders for checking > for new mail - mail only appears in some of my folders (mainly as a > result of server side filtering), the vast majority either get populated > as a result of Evo filters, or things get put there manually. At the > moment Evo takes ages to sort itself out when I first start it because > it goes through all my subscribed folders looking for new mail - I don't > want to untick the 'Check for new messages in all folders' because there > are some folders that I want to check - I don't want to unsubscribe the > folders because I use the (unchanging) information in them. Do you use Maildir-based IMAP? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "If you disregard people's motives, it becomes much harder to foresee their actions." George Orwell ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting mail with virii?
On Wed, 2006-04-19 at 07:36 -0400, William Case wrote:
> Hi Ron;
>
> On Tue, 2006-18-04 at 23:28 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 21:55 -0400, William Case wrote:
> > > Hi;
> > >
> > > I have just installed and run clamav. clamscan found 49 corrupted files
> > > in ~/.evolution and ~/.evolution2. Some of them from restored /home
> > > files from previous versions of Fedora. I am not blaming anyone. What
> > > I need to know is can I just go into my mail cache and delete those
> > > infected email files? Or will that screw up indexing or something?
> >
> > Is local mail cached? For IMAP mail, here's what I'd do:
> >
>
> I don't use IMAP. All the mail is downloaded from my rogers/yahoo.
> Rogers is my cable company.
>
> > >From an xterm prompt:
> > $ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > $ evolution --force-shutdown
> > $ rm -rf ~/.evolution/mail/imap/${acct}/folders/INBOX
> >
> > Next time I open a folder on an IMAP server, Evo will re-cache what
> > is necessary.
> >
>
> Some of the offending mail is in .evolution and some in .evolution2.
> As you can tell, I have left learning about mail until later. I guess
> later is now.
>
> Sample message from clamav:
> "/home/bill/.evolution2/mail/pop/[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]/cache/31/ca59f62609ca94efc11383fe3827ee2c: Exploit.IFrame.Gen
> FOUND"
OK. The same theory will apply.
$ evolution --force-shutdown
$ rm -rf ~/.evolution2/mail/pop/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/cache
$ rm -rf ~/.evolution/mail/pop/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/cache
Note, though, that ~/.evolution2 is deprecated.
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[Evolution] Wish: Uncached IMAP folders
Hi, Some of my IMAP folders (spam, history subfolders for mailing lists, etc) don't really need to be cached, but are, even if I accidentally go into them. So, a suggestion: add a boolean "do not cache" folder property. Example: I'm subscribed to Debian-User, which has approx 10-12K emails per calendar quarter. That adds up to between 40 & 90MB of cache data and 12-20K extra files per quarter that are totally un-needed. Thoughts? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Pacifists are people who haven't faced the unpleasant facts of life, either economically or politically; if they did face those facts, they wouldn't be pacifists for long." George Orwell ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Deleting mail with virii?
On Tue, 2006-04-18 at 21:55 -0400, William Case wrote:
> Hi;
>
> I have just installed and run clamav. clamscan found 49 corrupted files
> in ~/.evolution and ~/.evolution2. Some of them from restored /home
> files from previous versions of Fedora. I am not blaming anyone. What
> I need to know is can I just go into my mail cache and delete those
> infected email files? Or will that screw up indexing or something?
Is local mail cached? For IMAP mail, here's what I'd do:
>From an xterm prompt:
$ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
$ evolution --force-shutdown
$ rm -rf ~/.evolution/mail/imap/${acct}/folders/INBOX
Next time I open a folder on an IMAP server, Evo will re-cache what
is necessary.
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up employment costs.
Lastly, Unions, Liberalism and it's offspring "the Me Generation"
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Re: [Evolution] IMAP "Outbox" feature
On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 13:45 +0200, Jerome Warnier wrote: > I was wondering if any version of Evolution was able to use the "Outbox" > feature of IMAP, ie the feature in which instead of sending using SMTP, > you send mails through IMAP in a special folder, where the IMAP server > gets it right away and feeds it to his local MTA. > At least Courier IMAP permits this. Out of curiosity: what is the point of this feature? > If Evolution supports this, where can I configure it? > If not, is it planned? > > Regards, and thanks to all the contributors to Evolution, the best > graphical MUA/GroupWare ever! -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "A wise government knows how to enforce with temper, or to conciliate with dignity." George Grenville, British prime minister ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Renaming Imap folders
On Wed, 2006-04-12 at 10:14 +0100, Oli wrote: > Hi, > > I've got a problem with renaming folders in Evolution 2.4.1 when > connected to a Maildir based Imap mailstore. > > If the folder being renamed has children, the children are not renamed > and the user is left with what looks like the old and new parent folders > shown in the folder tree. > > Due to the way Maildir works, the child system dirs on the mailserver > containing the mail have the names of their parents in the dir name. > The actual parent gets renamed, but this 'old' parent still exists in > the child file names. Evolution then presents this 'old' parent in the > heirarchy but complains bitterly that it doesn't exist when you click on it. > > The workaround seems to be to drag the children folders onto the new > parent and restart Evolution. My users aren't very happy with this > workaround... > > Has a bug been raised about this? (I haven't found anything on Google so > far) Has anyone found a better workaround or way to fix it? I can *not* duplicate this error: Original: drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 23 2005 .Newsletters.NY_Times/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 9 2005 .Newsletters.NY_Times.2001/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 9 2005 .Newsletters.NY_Times.2002/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 9 2005 .Newsletters.NY_Times.2003/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Sep 9 2005 .Newsletters.NY_Times.2004/ drwx-- 6 me me 4096 Feb 10 18:21 .Newsletters.NY_Times.2005/ Renamed: drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Apr 12 12:44 .Newsletters.NY_Times2/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Apr 12 12:44 .Newsletters.NY_Times2.2001/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Apr 12 12:44 .Newsletters.NY_Times2.2002/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Apr 12 12:44 .Newsletters.NY_Times2.2003/ drwx-w 6 me me 4096 Apr 12 12:44 .Newsletters.NY_Times2.2004/ drwx-- 6 me me 4096 Apr 12 12:44 .Newsletters.NY_Times2.2005/ The problem is, though, that the NY_Times tree still exists, according to Evolution (but not courier-IMAP). -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Rightly hating violence, [pacifists] do not wish to recognise that it is integral to modern society and that their own fine feelings and noble attitudes are all the fruit of injustice backed up by force. They do not want to learn where their incomes come from." George Orwell ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] outgoing filters & imap
On Tue, 2006-04-11 at 21:37 -0400, Phil Groschwitz wrote: > I would like a filter to move sent mail from the imap sent folder to the > local sent folder. > > Is this possible? In the Mail Accounts "Default" tab, you ca specify where to put Sent and Drafts emails. The default destination destination is local Sent. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Women are irrational, that's all there is to that! Their heads are full of cotton, hay, and rags. They're nothing but exasperating, irritating, vacillating, calculating, agitating, maddening and infuriating hags!" Professor Henry Higgins ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Getting updates?
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 09:33 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: > On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 17:29, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:57 +0100, Steve Waterworth wrote: [snip] > > Convert to Debian, stay relatively current in a relatively painless > > manner. > > I don't want to flame anyone (I'm using debian at home) but I think it's > the last distro to still have only Evo 2.4 available, even in its > experimental repository. 2.6-experimental is in the NEW queue. 6 more days, unless he finds a bug and uploads a new set of packages... -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "I take my children everywhere, but they always find their way back home." Robert Orben ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Getting updates?
On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 14:57 +0100, Steve Waterworth wrote: > I have SuSE 9.3 and it comes with evolution included. However it is an > older version and it crashes out when I start it up. This is a know bug > and is a problem with the data-server and MS exchange profile. I have > been trying to locate an uptodate rpm. No luck so far. I did download > the source and attempt to build that but there are so many other > dependencies that I have just given up on that. Surely someone must have > built some binaries??? Convert to Debian, stay relatively current in a relatively painless manner. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "My initial response was to sue her for defamation of character, but then I realized that I had no character." Charles Barkley on hearing Tonya Harding proclaim herself the Charles Barkley of figure skating ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 14:27 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:50 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:18 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > > > On Thu, 2006-04-06 at 13:07 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > > > > The dialog box lets you select where to create the new folder. > > > > > > > > poc > > > > > > I know. My point was that 99% of the time (for me anyway) > > > it's the same place, so I'd like to have a default that would > > > come up highlighted in the dialog box so I don't need to scroll > > > to it every time. > > > > Alternatively, Evo could just remember where the last folder was created > > and preselect it. > > Yes, that would be fine too. > George Reeke AOL! -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "In politics it is necessary either to betray one's country of the electorate. I prefer to betray the electorate." Charles De Gaulle ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution 2.6.0 error: /bin/sh too many open files
On Wed, 2006-04-05 at 19:28 +0200, Ambrogio wrote: > Il giorno mer, 05/04/2006 alle 09.26 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan ha > scritto: > > > It may or may not be relevant to your problem, but why is Evo > > using /root? Are you running it as root? Did you copy your home > > directory to /root by mistake? > Yes, > it is not relevant, but I'm using root for my normal jobs. > I know that it's not so good, but I have no problems, and I have a lot Until an errant rm wipes out your whole drive. > of problems in migrating root to another user. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic." Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., Schenck v. United States ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] asynchronous signature checking
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 11:30 -0400, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > I find it quite tedious to have to wait for Evolution (2.4.2.1) to have > to wait for gpg to return the result of a message integrity check before > displaying the message for reading. It would be nice if the integrity > check could happen asynchronously and update the message display when it > has gotten the answer. So like: > > 1. Retrieve message. > 2. Display message. > 3. Display "Integrity unknown... Signature check in progress" where > integrity status is normally shown. > 4. Launch gpg, and wait async. for it's return. > 5. Update message display if it returns while message is still > being displayed. > 6. If message display is closed before gpg returns, kill it. > > Thots? I think it's a great idea. Evo is multi-threaded after all... -- ----- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA How can anyone govern a nation that has 246 different kinds of cheese?" Charles de Gaulle ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 11:36 -0400, George Reeke wrote: > Dr. Mr. Smith and list, >Well, when I click on "Move", a list of my mail folders pops up. > I scroll to the one I want, then click it and the selected mail > moves there. If it's the same as the one I used last time, it is > already selected. If I were to drag and drop, where would I drag to? > There is no destination folder list. It certainly would not be > intuitive to use the "On This Computer" list at the left: Depends on how intuitive you are, I guess! :) >I don't > want to move to the destination folder, which is what happens if I > click there. Besides, even if that is what I am supposed to do, > I don't feel very comfortable scrolling while dragging and maybe > dropping the drag at the wrong place. And don't I have to click > on the scroll bar to scroll? Or am I supposed to scroll until > the destination folder is visible on the list, then drag there > (moving the mouse back and forth twice instead of once). That > seems sort of backwards to me. So, you see, the Move button is > much more intuitive. No. With mouse-left still pressed and the cursor over the folder list, just "drag down" (or up, as the case my be). The folder list will magically scroll down/up for you. I'm not that intuitive either, I guess, since I only discovered it by accident. >Anyway, I choose never to use drag and drop for anything. This > came from some bad experiences in that other operating system, when > it was never clear whether drop meant move or meant copy. I find > it better never to use it at all than always to be unsure about this > distinction. Am I supposed to use Ctrl-click to copy or is it the > other way around? Maybe this has been standardized now, but I have > habits that work for me. That is a very valid point. >Paul, this is not directed at you personally (you just asked a > question, which I tried to answer), but I would like to take this > opportunity to say this: I wish everybody would stop trying to > tell everybody else how to use their computers. Call me whatever you > want, I believe this is a legitimate choice for me. I am used to it, > it works, it is simple, it doesn't hurt anything, so why should it > arbitrarily be taken away? Others are welcome to drag and drop if > that works for them, I really don't care. I also realize developers > cannot add every gizmo that anybody ever asks for, but in this case > we are talking about taking away a gizmo that has always been there. > Presumably, it took some active work to remove it. >(BTW, I do know what the kleenex box does, I was being a little > rhetorical in my original post, so please don't bother explaining > it to me.) >Sincerely >George Reeke > > > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 11:40 -0500, Paul Smith wrote: > > %% George Reeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > gr> One person's "not useful" is another person's "essential." The > > gr> answer is to make the toolbar configurable, as I have requested in > > gr> an earlier posting and have filed on the official feature-request > > gr> list. Developers: I hope you are listening. I am one of those > > gr> who consider "Move" and "Copy" essential, but would gladly get rid > > gr> of those unlabelled buttons like the one that looks like a box of > > gr> Kleenex that does who-knows-what. > > > > I don't disagree with what you're saying about configurability. > > However, I am curious as to why drag-n-drop doesn't meet your needs, > > such that a "Move" button is considered essential. > > > > Cheers! > > > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Microsoft's success depends largely not on superior product, but on understanding how the market works, and exploiting that understanding without shame or morality. 'He who controls the standards controls the marketr' It's THAT simple." Ron Walker ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forward with full headers
On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 23:18 +0200, guenther wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 15:05 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 21:54 +0200, guenther wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 15:40 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > > The default Forward sends the message as an attachment and includes the > > > > full headers *in the attachment*. > > > > > > Exactly. :) > > > > > > Forwarding Attached, will attach the mail with all headers preserved. > > > This most likely is the best way to do this. If Forwarding does not > > > default to Attached, you most likely changed this at one point -- have a > > > look at your settings: > > > > > > Edit / Preferences / Composer Preferences / General / Forward Style > > > > Gah! How did I miss that? > > > > > You can change the forward style on a case by case basis, using > > > Message / Forward As. Note though, that this submenu is missing from > > > some 2.4.x releases. In that case, you have to set the default. I posted > > > a simple patch to enable this missing submenu a couple of months ago. > > > Let me know, if you'd want it. > > > > Does this patch an config file, or the source? > > An XML config file. The patch can be applied to an installed Evo, > otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it at all. ;) All you need is root. > > Seems you'd like to have the patch. So here we go... > > > The bug including the patch can be found in bugzilla: > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=321640 Thanks. Is this the patch, which I need to Save As ForwardAs-menu.diff? http://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=55093 > The relevant post with some details how to apply the patch and a lengthy > discussion can be found in the list archives: > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2005-November/msg00278.html > http://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2005-November/thread.html#00047 > > Have fun... -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA 4 degrees from Vladimir Putin ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Debian issues on testing/unstable
On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 23:02 +0200, guenther wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 15:00 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 21:40 +0200, guenther wrote: > > > So I have been down that road way too often the last week. More than > > > once on a daily basis is sufficient to post this "just in case"... > > > > > > There currently is a known Debian specific issue, biting a lot of users: > > > > > > As a first step towards GNOME 2.14 in Debian, glib has been updated from > > > > > [snip] > > > know exactly, what I am doing. Every fucking bit matters. And please > > > don't mind, if I am curt -- until we solved the issue. :) > > > > Hi, Guenther. > > > > This issue does *not* affect up-to-date Sid users anymore. -1.1 > > or -2 (forget which) fixed it. > > You forgot the caveat about me not being a debian user. What is Sid > again exactly? ;-) OK, according to google, this is unstable. > > Well, as I mentioned in the OP, this doesn't seem to strike unstable > users a lot. However, bug 336623 [1] looks like this indeed is an issue > using 2.4.2.1-2. > > Besides this, the evolution-plugins issue stands as well. The separate > plugins package isn't updated automatically -- updating manually from > -1.1 to the matching -2 solved this for at least one user on IRC. He was If evolution-plugins is installed, then "apt-get upgrade" will auto-upgrade it from -1 or -.1.1 to -2. > the first one to find out about this. Previously downgrading glib solved > it for 2 other fellows... > > Yeah, a little bit confusing, isn't it? Not really. $ evolution --force-shutdown # apt-get update && apt-get upgrade. The key is --force-shutdown. > Anyway, thanks for the follow up and more details on this, Ron. :) I'd > appreciate it, if debian users could post all relevant information to > come, especially when the fixed packages are out. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "To be stupid, selfish, and have good health are three requirements for happiness, though if stupidity is lacking, all is lost." Gustave Flaubert ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forward with full headers
On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 21:54 +0200, guenther wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 15:40 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > The default Forward sends the message as an attachment and includes the > > full headers *in the attachment*. > > Exactly. :) > > Forwarding Attached, will attach the mail with all headers preserved. > This most likely is the best way to do this. If Forwarding does not > default to Attached, you most likely changed this at one point -- have a > look at your settings: > > Edit / Preferences / Composer Preferences / General / Forward Style Gah! How did I miss that? > You can change the forward style on a case by case basis, using > Message / Forward As. Note though, that this submenu is missing from > some 2.4.x releases. In that case, you have to set the default. I posted > a simple patch to enable this missing submenu a couple of months ago. > Let me know, if you'd want it. Does this patch an config file, or the source? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Diplomats were invented simply to waste time." David Lloyd George, British prime minister ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Heads Up: Debian issues on testing/unstable
On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 21:40 +0200, guenther wrote: > So I have been down that road way too often the last week. More than > once on a daily basis is sufficient to post this "just in case"... > > There currently is a known Debian specific issue, biting a lot of users: > > As a first step towards GNOME 2.14 in Debian, glib has been updated from > [snip] > know exactly, what I am doing. Every fucking bit matters. And please > don't mind, if I am curt -- until we solved the issue. :) Hi, Guenther. This issue does *not* affect up-to-date Sid users anymore. -1.1 or -2 (forget which) fixed it. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "As the night fall does not come at once, neither does oppression. It is in such twilight that we must all be aware of change in the air - however slight - lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." Justice William O. Douglas ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forward with full headers
In v2.4.2.1, it's Message->Redirect, and does not seem to so what you suggest it does. Isn't there a way to "forward as attachment"? I'm sure such an option used to exist in Evo. It does in Outlook and Mozilla. On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 15:40 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > The default Forward sends the message as an attachment and includes the > full headers *in the attachment*. Maybe you want Message->Forward > As->Redirect. > > poc > > On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 14:06 -0500, Kenneth P. Turvey wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > I get quite a bit of spam since I use my real email address in public > > forums. I don't mind the spam, I can filter most of it, but I would like > > to be able to report the spam that I get to spamcop to assist others in > > filtering it. > > > > The easiest way to do this is simply to forward the message to a spamcop > > address. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work by default in Evolution. > > I think the problem is that the forwarded email doesn't have the full > > headers that it came with. > > > > Is there an easy way to forward the email with full headers? > > > > Thanks. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny." Thomas Jefferson ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Forward with full headers
On Sun, 2006-04-02 at 14:06 -0500, Kenneth P. Turvey wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I get quite a bit of spam since I use my real email address in public > forums. I don't mind the spam, I can filter most of it, but I would like > to be able to report the spam that I get to spamcop to assist others in > filtering it. > > The easiest way to do this is simply to forward the message to a spamcop > address. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to work by default in Evolution. > I think the problem is that the forwarded email doesn't have the full > headers that it came with. > > Is there an easy way to forward the email with full headers? I second this request, for the same reason. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA SpaceShipOne powered flight: #1 : 17 Dec 2003 - 1497k/h, 20400m, 15 sec thrust burn #2 : 8 April 2004 - Mach 2, 31500m, 40 sec thrust burn #3 : 13 May 2004 - Mach 2.5, 63420m, 55 sec thrust burn #4 : 21 June 20004 - ~2400k/h, 100125m, 70 sec thrust burn #5 : 29 Sept 2004 - ~2700k/h, 330630ft, 79 sec thrust burn #5 : 4 Oct 2004 - , 368000ft, 84 sec thrust burn ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mulriple Evo, same IMAP, read-status sync
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 01:39 -0500, Saikat Guha wrote: > On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 17:42 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 18:23 -0500, Saikat Guha wrote: > > > I do not close > > > evolution when I go home, or to the office and leave both running all > > > day/all night. The problem I have is as follows: > > > > The obvious solution is to log off when you leave, right? > > Right. And since the original post explicitly said that I don't, it > obviously said so for a reason. > > The question then becomes, am I correct in concluding that Evolution > cannot properly sync with up with IMAP without a three-finger salute? 3FS? I'm not asking you to reboot. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Politics is not the art of the possible. It consists in choosing between the disastrous and the unpalatable." John Kenneth Galbraith ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mulriple Evo, same IMAP, read-status sync
On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 18:23 -0500, Saikat Guha wrote: > Hi, > > I have one IMAP server, which is accessed by two different instances of > Evolution on two separate computers (home and office). I do not close > evolution when I go home, or to the office and leave both running all > day/all night. The problem I have is as follows: The obvious solution is to log off when you leave, right? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "But Gates is a visionary. Very early in the history of the PC, he evolved a strikingly clear concept of where the industry was headed, and he has pursued that vision_despite many tactical setbacks_unwaveringly, relentlessly, and ruthlessly." www.stanford.edu/group/mmdd/SiliconValley/Ferguson/Chapter.5.html ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Message Priority Button
On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 08:20 -0500, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > On Thu, 2006-03-30 at 14:34 +0200, Xavier Bestel wrote: [snip] > have ~/bin/ in the front of my PATH. That is a security risk. -- ----- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Politics [is] the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order." Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Error storing Folder - Evo 2.4.1
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 16:46 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > hi gordon, > > Am Mittwoch, den 22.03.2006, 07:25 + schrieb Gordon Burgess-Parker: > > I subscribe to the Open Office Mailing list, which is a high-volume > > list. (4000 posts a month). Sometimes I get the following error: > > > > "Error while Storing folder 'Personal Folders/ITC/Software/Open Office'. > > > > "Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync > > > > when exiting the folder. Is this because the folder gets over a certain > > size limit, or is this a bug? I find I can cure it by creating another > > folder and moving all the messages to it and then deleting the original > > folder. > > > > Any thoughts? > > it's a bug, for your interest, it's filed as > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=213072 Wow. This is a 4.5 year old bug. That's astonishing. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Democracy is woman's greatest invention. Indeed, it even reflects her character: purposeless, irrational, subject to public opinion and passing fashions, rambling, confused, underhanded, scheming, in love with its own purity." Unknown; not my opinion, but still amusing. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Message Priority Button
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 14:01 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 16:41 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > > hi murray, > > > > Am Montag, den 13.03.2006, 13:01 +0800 schrieb Murray Trainer: > > > I notice that in Evolution 2.4.0-3 there doesn't appear to be a button > > > in the message compose window to set the message priority like in > > > Outlook. I found the priority can be set via Insert / Send Options / > > > Priority but this seems a bit involved especially for new users. Has a > > > button for this been added in a newer version > > > > no, at least not in 2.6 which is the latest version. > > > > > or is it planned in the future. > > > > a high priority for you might be low priority or even spam for me. many > > spam messages i receive have a high priority. only because the sender > > thinks that he writes something important, i don't have to have the same > > opinion at all. > > > > as far as i know, the feature was only implemented for outlook users > > which still believe that this feature would be useful in any kind of > > way, and a button in the evolution composer would encourage even more > > users to use a this. so i hope a button will NOT be added. > > Totally agree. "Message Priority" is only useful when there's an option > to lower it but not to raise it. Thus the "Priority: Bulk" header used > by mailing-list managers. In Outlook 97 (don't know about the others), there are "Importance: High" and "Importance: Low" buttons on the toolbar. This is yet another Perfect Reason why the toolbar should be user configurable: I don't give a rat's butt about the Evo junk filters, thus, I don't need those buttons. I do, though, see the need for a Reply To List button. Please, let us choose for ourselves -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Those who would give up essential Liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither Liberty nor safety." or something like that Ben Franklin, maybe ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 10:33 -0500, George Reeke wrote: > Dear list, > One person's "not useful" is another person's "essential." The answer > is to make the toolbar configurable, as I have requested in an earlier > posting and have filed on the official feature-request list. > Developers: I hope you are listening. I am one of those who > consider "Move" and "Copy" essential, but would gladly get rid of > those unlabelled buttons like the one that looks like a box of > Kleenex that does who-knows-what. Exactly. Those of us who have server-side filtering have absolutely *no* need for the Junk buttons. People gripe about GNOME being dumbed down. I disagree, since the DE should fade into the background. OTOH, *applications* should remain feature-rich and configurable. > On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 00:38 -0700, P Sankar wrote: > > To move mails, you can drag-and-drop. So the icon was not considered > > useful. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Organic chemistry is the chemistry of carbon compounds. Biochemistry is the study of carbon compounds that crawl." Mike Adams ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Inbox too large
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 22:01 -0600, Mark Pinto wrote: > Kernel 2.6.8. glibc 2.3.6. I'm convinced that it's an evolution > issue (2.4, but I tested and have the same problem on 2.6), as I have > 2+G files on this computer that are handled fine. Evo 2.4.2.1 *definitely* has 2GB file size issues. Attached is the error message I get while trying to attach a 2.5GB file. So, it's quite reasonable to expect that Evo has other small-file bugs in it's code base. > On 3/27/06, Greg Tassone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 20:06 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 16:48 -0800, Greg Tassone wrote: > > ... > > > > The other problem could be that your system is missing large file > > > > support. How old is your kernel? > > > > > > LFS came in during the *early* 2.4 kernels. *Nobody* (except a > > > few m68k retro-geeks, and they mostly use 2.4.2x) uses such old > > > kernels and glibc/libc6 anymore. > > > > Agreed. This is compounded by the fact that XFS support probably > > indicates a later version as well. > > > > However, history around this list has taught me to NEVER take anything > > for granted. I can't believe how old some of the stuff is that we hear > > about on this list (e.g., VERY old RedHat Linux installs, very old > > versions of Evo, old kernels, etc.). > > > > Therefore, I decided to at least ask the question, given the somewhat > > strange/rare circumstances of the error. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The warning message we sent the Russians was a calculated ambiguity that would be clearly understood." Alexander Haig ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evo 2.6 - adding a 'move' icon
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 10:13 +0530, Parthasarathi Susarla wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 12:21 +0100, John Horne wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I have just installed Fedora Core 5, which includes Evolution 2.6.0. One > > of the things I have noticed (from FC4, not sure what the version of > > Evolution was) is that there is no 'Move' (or 'Copy') icon in the > > toolbar. There used to be as I regularly used it. I can see the 'Move to > > folder' option under the 'Message' drop-down menu, but would prefer an > > icon. > The Move and Copy Icons in the toolbar have been removed, this was a > decision taken by the UI team, since the toolbar seemed too cluttered. > The move and copy operations are available on the right click on the > message list. Sure, for someone with an 800x600 screen. There should be a way to customize the toolbar. It's a very useful feature. > > Does anyone know how I can add the icon back? I can see no configuration > > option to allow the toolbar to be modified. > > None that am aware of. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Politics and war are remarkably similar situations." Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Inbox too large
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 16:48 -0800, Greg Tassone wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 17:26 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 16:38 -0600, Mark Pinto wrote: > > > The filesystem is XFS, so that's certainly not a problem. I created > > > yearly folders under "On This Computer" and moved them from Inbox, but > > > somehow the size of the file did not shrink. > > > > Empty the trash. Or Expunge. Depends on which version of Evo > > you are using. > > > The other problem could be that your system is missing large file > support. How old is your kernel? LFS came in during the *early* 2.4 kernels. *Nobody* (except a few m68k retro-geeks, and they mostly use 2.4.2x) uses such old kernels and glibc/libc6 anymore. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA python -c 'print len(str(2**30))' 90309 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Inbox too large
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 16:38 -0600, Mark Pinto wrote: > The filesystem is XFS, so that's certainly not a problem. I created > yearly folders under "On This Computer" and moved them from Inbox, but > somehow the size of the file did not shrink. Empty the trash. Or Expunge. Depends on which version of Evo you are using. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The President has kept all the promises he intended to keep." George Stephanopolous ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] RE: Re: Evolution died - need help!
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 16:03 -0800, Auerbach, Steven P. wrote: > > All > > Yesterday afternoon Evolution started to crash, and now it won't start up. > > I'm running Evo 2.4.1 on Kubuntu Breezy 5.10. The only thing I know > > that I have done recently is emptied the trash (which apparently > > compacts the Inbox > > file) and also created some new folders and moved old mail to them. > > Maybe you upgraded GNOME & glibg also? > > No, I haven't upgraded anything. The only changes are those I stated. Any error messages when you run evo from an xterm window? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "A great many open minds should be closed for repairs." Toledo Blade Newspaper ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution died - need help!
On Thu, 2006-03-23 at 14:53 -0800, Auerbach, Steven P. wrote: > All > Yesterday afternoon Evolution started to crash, and now it won't start up. > I'm running Evo 2.4.1 on Kubuntu Breezy 5.10. The only thing I know that I > have done recently is emptied the trash (which apparently compacts the Inbox > file) and also created some new folders and moved old mail to them. Maybe you upgraded GNOME & glibg also? > I'm now dead in the water on my Linux box, and I am composing this email on > MS Outlook. > > A stack trace obtained using gdb is below. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA It has yet to be proven that intelligence has any survival value. Arthur C. Clarke ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Re: Problem moving messages to inbox
On Wed, 2006-03-22 at 09:02 -0800, Auerbach, Steven P. wrote: > There were multiple replies to my query; here are the answers: > > > > Tell us what version of Evo and glibc you are using. > Evo 2.4.1 > I believe (after consulting adept) I am using 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (not adept? > really sure on this one, however... how do I tell?) $ apt-cache policy libc6 libc6: Installed: 2.3.6-3 Candidate: 2.3.6-4 Version table: 2.3.6-4 0 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages *** 2.3.6-3 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > Looks like a filesystem problem. Some Linux kernel versions can't handle > > files of over 2GB. This has nothing to do with free disk space. Try > > compacting your Inbox (File->Empty Trash) or moving some messages to a > > different folder (and then compacting anyway). > > I compacted (and also moved files to a new folder), and now I have no > problems copying. Problem solved. That's interesting. Could the Evo mbox code not have been modified for large-file support? > Regarding inability of my kernel to handle such large files, I am using > 2.6.12-9-386, which is fairly up to date, so I doubt that this is a > problem. No, that's way modern enough. Anything 2.4 or newer is adequate. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Everyone is always in favour of general economy and particular expenditure." Anthony Eden, British prime minister ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problem moving messages to inbox
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 22:52 -0400, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:34 -0800, Auerbach, Steven P. wrote: > > I am trying to move messages from my Exchange server mailbox to my > > Personal inbox. I get an error message which says: > > > > Error while Moving messages to > > mbox:/home/spa/.evolution/mail/local#Inbox. > > > > Cannot append message to mbox > > file: /home/spa/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox: File too large > > > > The file in question is in fact large (~2.1 GBytes) but I have plenty of > > free disk space. > > Looks like a filesystem problem. Some Linux kernel versions can't handle > files of over 2GB. This has nothing to do with free disk space. Try > compacting your Inbox (File->Empty Trash) or moving some messages to a > different folder (and then compacting anyway). Could it be that he'll have problems no matter what he does to the inbox, since 2.1GB is the size of a C int? Still, I thought all of these large-file issues were fixed a long time ago. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The one function that TV news performs very well is that when there is no news we give it to you with the same emphasis as if it were." David Brinkley ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Problem moving messages to inbox
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 16:34 -0800, Auerbach, Steven P. wrote: > I am trying to move messages from my Exchange server mailbox to my > Personal inbox. I get an error message which says: > > Error while Moving messages to > mbox:/home/spa/.evolution/mail/local#Inbox. > > Cannot append message to mbox > file: /home/spa/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox: File too large > > The file in question is in fact large (~2.1 GBytes) but I have plenty of > free disk space. > > Any suggestions? Tell us what version of Evo and glibc you are using. -- ------------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Democracy becomes a government of bullies, tempered by editors." Ralph Waldo Emerson ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Cleaning up Evo's cache
On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 03:57 -0700, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-20 at 10:29 +, B S Srinidhi wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I have a small problem with the ever-growing Evo's cache. I'll try to > > explain myself by giving a small example. > > > > I *had* an IMAP folder that housed close to 5000 emails. Since, that > was > > taking quite some amount of space on the server and the fact that I > was > > not able to read all those emails, I decided to delete the directory > > from the server. The directory does not exist anymore on the server, > but > > almost all of it remains in Evo's cache. > I am not an IMAP guy, however, if a folder is deleted in the server, I > guess, it should be deleted from the client as well (including any cache > w.r.t that folder). I can confirm, though, that the cache does *not* get deleted in Evo 2.4.2.1 > > How can I delete this directory (and many others) from the cache? > > > > Would it be enough to delete the directory from > > $HOME/.evolution/mail/imap/accountname/folders/INBOX/subfolders/ ??? > > > > I just wanted a confirmation from the list, before I mess with the > > cache. :) > > > Take a backup and try it. :-) I do it all the time (without taking backups first). Better do --force-shutdown, though. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA If trees could scream, would we be so cavalier about cutting them down? We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason. Jack Handey ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Slightly OT - Creating database from Emails
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 09:08 +, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > I have a large quantity of emails in Evolution on the Open Office > mailing list - is there any way to convert these to a database for > convenient searching? ISTM that mbox is the best format for searching, no? If anything, grep will blaze thru it. -- ----- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The only possible interpretation of any research whatever in the 'social sciences' is: some do, some don't" Ernest Rutherford ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Importing data from .NK2
On Tue, 2006-03-14 at 16:59 -0500, Rajiv Vyas wrote: > On 3/13/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ok, what's the autotype function? > > > Sorry, auto complete. Outlook basically completes the email address as > you type -- similar to Gmail's auto complete feature. The auto > complete feature basically relies on the NK2 file which stores 1,000 > most recently used email addresses. Hmmm. In Outlook97, you can specify which address book(s) you want to search (PAB, GAL, etc, etc), and in which order. Apparently, I haven't figured out how to use the NK2 file, because even though I just found the NK2 file, "mine" is only 1KB, and was last modified 27-Dec-2001. > Rajiv > > > > > > > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 10:27 -0500, Rajiv Vyas wrote: > > > NK2 file stores up to 1,000 most recently used email addresses in > > > Outlook. The autotype function uses data stored in NK2 file. > > > > > > On 3/13/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 08:52 -0500, Rajiv Vyas wrote: > > > > > On 3/13/06, Sushma Rai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > No. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to get around it? > > > > > > > > What's an NK2 file? > > -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA ACHTUNG - ALLES LOOKENPEEPERS Das Machine is nicht fur gefingerpoken und mittengrabben. Ist easy schnappen der springenwerk, blowenfusen und poppencorken mit spitzensparken. Ist nicht fur gewerken by das dummkopfen. Das rubbernecken sightseeren musten keepen das cotten-pickenen hands in das pockets - relaxen und watchen das blinkenlights. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Importing data from .NK2
Ok, what's the autotype function? On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 10:27 -0500, Rajiv Vyas wrote: > NK2 file stores up to 1,000 most recently used email addresses in > Outlook. The autotype function uses data stored in NK2 file. > > On 3/13/06, Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 08:52 -0500, Rajiv Vyas wrote: > > > On 3/13/06, Sushma Rai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > No. > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to get around it? > > > > What's an NK2 file? -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA When Swedes start committing terrorism, I'll become suspicious of Scandinavians. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Evolution and console mail apps
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 09:15 +, David Sumbler wrote: > "Patrick O'Callaghan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, 2006-03-12 at 11:03 +, David Sumbler wrote: [snip] > > Having read most of the Evolution manual (pdf) I'm wondering whether > changing from Gnus is such a good idea after all - there doesn't seem > to be quite the same versatility there. I'm sure there isn't. Evo is designed to be Outlook-ish, and gnus has all of emacs behind it, no? > Or maybe the manual just > isn't comprehensive. One silly example: does evolution have an easy > way to reply to two e-mails at once? i.e. to quote to contents of two > emails received from one person in a single reply? "Edit->Paste Quotation" may be what you are looking for. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Politics [is] the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order." Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Importing data from .NK2
On Mon, 2006-03-13 at 08:52 -0500, Rajiv Vyas wrote: > On 3/13/06, Sushma Rai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No. > > > Is there a way to get around it? What's an NK2 file? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace." Dwight D Eisenhower ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mail from shell command line
On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 13:12 +0100, steven Lobbezoo wrote: > Hi, > > I would like to construct an e-mail message in an other program, > then open a "newmail" window in evolution to allow the user > to edit the message, and then send it. > The message is composed of HTML and several images. > > I could not find how to do this. I tested a bit, and can setup a > message, > give it a receipient and a header, but not the body. To clarify, you mean "populate the message body and then bring it up in Evo"? > Anyone can help me with this ? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Liberals are people who can read '1984' and 'Animal Farm' and still think it doesn't mean them." Anonymous Coward ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] How to change the line wrap lenght?
On Sat, 2006-03-04 at 12:49 +0100, Joost Kraaijeveld wrote: > Hi, > > Eache time I send someone the output of programs or source code > Evolution wraps the lines at 80 (?) chars, rendering the text virtually > unreadable. > > Is it possible to change the line length wrap in Evolution, without > resorting to HTML mail? If so, how? Send it as an attachment. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Politics [is] the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order." Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Paste not working in replies?
On Mon, 2006-02-20 at 02:43 +0100, guenther wrote: > > > For some reason it appears that Paste does not work in Evolution, but > > > only when I am trying to copy something from a Reply. The scenario would > > > be that I am replying to a message, realize that I need to start over, > > > but if I try to copy and paste from one reply to another it won't work > > > at all. > > > > does this refer to the body, to the subject, or a recipients field? > > when pasting, do you use the keyboard shortcut (ctrl+v), the main menu > > item, the context menu item or the central mouse button? > > > > i won't test all those just trying to reproduce your bug, that's why i > > asked. :-) > > AFAIK all above should work, in any mentioned location. With the > exception of highlighting recipients and middle-click-paste for To, Cc > and Bcc. Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V works here. > > Works for me as it always did. Note though, taht I did not explicitly > test most of the above. But I am using all possible combinations > frequently... ;) > > > If it does not work for you, the only culprit I currently could think of > may be a combination of an old GNOME, X and KDE version, or something, > with a broken clipboard behavior. Just stabbing in the dark, though. I've experienced this recently. Can't think of a way to repeat it now, though. Evo 2.4.2.1 GNOME 2.12.2 X.org 6.9.0.dfsg.1-4 -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Politics gives guys so much power that they tend to behave badly around women. And I hope I never get into that." Bill Clinton ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keystroke approach to "mark all as read"?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 21:57 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 20:38 -0500, Peter N. Spotts wrote: > > Thanks, Ron. But that only does one at a time; I'm thinking about a > > window's worth at a time -- the keyboard equivalent of Folder=>Mark > > Messages as Read. The only way I can see to do that now would be first > > to select all (ctrl-a), then use your ctrl-k. Some email clients will > > allow a ctrl-something to mark all read without having to select all > > first. > > Technically, ^K marks *highlighted* records. If you simply click > on a message, you're only highlighting 1 record. > > I'm so used to doing ^A to select all emails, that I'm surprised > to notice in v2.4 that there isn't an Edit->"Select All" emails. Ah, here we go: Folder->"Select All Messages" Folder->"Mark Messages As Read" > Does typing ^A instead of ctrl-a mark me as a greybeard? > -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA GGLX : Gnome GNU Linux X.Org ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keystroke approach to "mark all as read"?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 20:38 -0500, Peter N. Spotts wrote: > Thanks, Ron. But that only does one at a time; I'm thinking about a > window's worth at a time -- the keyboard equivalent of Folder=>Mark > Messages as Read. The only way I can see to do that now would be first > to select all (ctrl-a), then use your ctrl-k. Some email clients will > allow a ctrl-something to mark all read without having to select all > first. Technically, ^K marks *highlighted* records. If you simply click on a message, you're only highlighting 1 record. I'm so used to doing ^A to select all emails, that I'm surprised to notice in v2.4 that there isn't an Edit->"Select All" emails. Does typing ^A instead of ctrl-a mark me as a greybeard? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA [QUOTE] Casey asked Johnson if doctors tell a woman that the abortion procedure they might use includes "sucking the brain out of the skull." "I don't think we would use those terms," Johnson said. "I think we would probably use a term like 'decompression of the skull' or 'reducing the contents of the skull.'" The judge responded, "Make it nice and palatable so that they wouldn't understand what it's all about?" Johnson, though, said doctors merely want to be sensitive. [/QUOTE] http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=7&; u=/ap/20040401/ap_on_re_us/abortion_lawsuits_31 ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Keystroke approach to "mark all as read"?
On Sun, 2006-01-29 at 07:23 -0500, Peter N. Spotts wrote: > Folks, > > Is there a keyboard way to mark all messages as read? If not, is it > possible for a user to define a set of keystrokes to do that, much as > control-y runs the filters or control-a selects all? If so, how does one > go about setting that up? ^K marks selected emails as read. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Though force can protect in emergency, only justice, fairness, consideration and cooperation can finally lead men to the dawn of eternal peace." Dwight D Eisenhower ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] search global?
On Tue, 2006-01-24 at 21:03 -0800, Ron Eggler (Mobile) wrote: > Am Mittwoch, den 25.01.2006, 12:34 +0800 schrieb simon.zheng: > > Please create a folder under "Search Folders", then edit its properties > > and define what's your interesting search rule. > > Hm where can I find 'Search Folders'? Prior to v2.4, they are called vFolders. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "The UN couldn't break up a cookie fight in a Brownie meeting." Larry Miller ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Another tedious hamfisted administrator with a silly question
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 21:05 +, Ben Tyson-Norrman wrote: > Funnily enough I was just eying the possibility of going to Etch - > however I kind of put that down as a project for a quiet Friday. > > As this is my main machine was kind of wanting to stay at a stable > release. However I'm all ears, if its a good idea and the distro is > proving to be reliable and reasonably stable > > Thanking you all kindly for your help I've been using it for years, with only the *occasional* hiccup. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "I am trying to do two things: dare to be a radical and not a fool, which is a matter of no small difficulty." James A. Garfield ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Another tedious hamfisted administrator with a silly question
On Wed, 2006-01-18 at 14:43 +, Ben Tyson-Norrman wrote: > Silly question time... thump thump on keyboard etc > > > I'm trying to build Evolution on Debian 3.1 latest everything I guess you couldn't upgrade to Sid? -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA Why jobs are being out-sourced to 2nd & 3rd world nations: Unions and Liberalism. Unions for a general raising of wages, and Liberalism for the creation of The Nanny State, which creates a *relatively* high minimum wage, and *lots* of well meaning regulations that drive up employment costs. Lastly, Unions, Liberalism and it's offspring "the Me Generation" have destroyed the educational system, at the same time that 2nd & 3rd world nations are pumping out millions of highly educated people who can live like princes on a fraction of US or Western European wages. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] Any word on the Free/Busy bug?
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=269155 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=273560 -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA I don't want "fair and balanced". I want all of the facts, with enough context to make sense of it. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Small interface
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 16:46 -0200, Diego Pinheiro wrote: > Hi guys, > > I'm just wondering if there is anything I can do to make the evolution's > interface look smaller. Something like making fonts, buttons and icons > smaller... > > I have a 800x600 LCD screen (can't get a better resolution) and > evolution, even resizing frames and hiding some toolbars, gets a little > too big (I finish up with a small "useful" email area). What I do is maximize the "subject pane", and then read emails in a separate window. Also, presuming you are using the GNOME DE, you could go into the Font Preferences app and make the Application Font a bit smaller. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Why should we not accept all in favor of woman suffrage to our platform and association even though they be rabid pro-slavery Democrats." Susan B. Anthony, _History_of_Woman_Suffrage_ http://www.ifeminists.com/introduction/essays/introduction.html ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Upgrade without losing mail: is there a HOWTO?
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:54 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 20:19 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: [snip] > > Heh, but this is open source so we can find the bugs and fix them. Nice in theory, hard in practice. -- ----- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA Great Inventors of our time: Al Gore -> Internet Sun Microsystems -> Clusters ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] configuring evolution
On Mon, 2006-01-09 at 10:13 +, BANDARU_VENKI VENKY wrote: > hi,this is venki. > i am new to linux operating system. i am > cofiuring evolution.it shows an > > error.that is gnome-icon-theme was not found in the > pkg-config search path. > > alternatively you may set the git-cflags and > git-libs. > > help me All the help you need: people who are new to linux operating system should *not* be building *extremely* complex programs from source. Heck, there's no need to even build simple apps from source. Your distro should already have binary packages for you. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "You can either have software quality or you can have pointer arithmetic, but you cannot have both at the same time." Bertrand Meyer ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] error when typing new mail
On Thu, 2006-01-05 at 16:18 -0300, Thiago Germano Beier wrote: > hi all, > > we're having an error when we're typing new mails at the evolution 2.4 > new mail compose > > so , when we're writing this mail we type the word "LINUX" but the But LINUX appears in your email. > the work changes by itself for the following format "XUNIL" > > evolution version 2.4 at NLD (novell linux desktop) > > how could it be possible ? -- ----- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "I hired you people to try to get a little track laid, not to jump around like a bunch of Kansas City faggots!" Taggart, Blazing Saddles ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Mulitple IDs
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 21:43 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 15:35 -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: [snip] > > All imap accounts have their own INBOX. I guess the same goes for pop > accounts. That is correct. When I evacuated for Katrina, I had to manage multiple personalities, so am confident that Evo can handle your situation, too. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA Don't think of it as a flame, think of it as an argument that does 3d6 fire damage! ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sent file too large
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 15:13 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:17 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:49 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 12:36 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 10:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:50 +0530, B S Srinidhi wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 15:40 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > [snip] [snip] > > > > Create *both* a "POP" (which is really a local mbox) *and* a maildir > > store. > > Ah so in order to create multiple "stores" I have to go through the New > Account wizard. This is the part that's not intuitive. Couldn't agree with you more. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "What I got by going to Canada was a cold." Henry David Thoreau ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sent file too large
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 20:09 +0100, Erik Slagter wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:05 -0600, Marcos Pinto wrote: > > > that's just not right. if you have a pop account in evolution, > > evolution stores all email from that account in an mbox format. and > > then you get screwed when that mbox file gets over 2G > > If you get evolution to download them all, yeah. > > But IIRC evolution keeps an index on this mbox file, so it's not quite > exactly an "mbox" file. The mbox mail data is in a separate file from the index. So, as long as you completely shutdown Evo, copy the mbox files anywhere you'd like. -- --------- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "Sometime they'll give a war and nobody will come." Carl Sandburg Oh, come on. Sure they will. That's what testosterone is for... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sent file too large
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 13:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:49 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 12:36 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 10:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:50 +0530, B S Srinidhi wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 15:40 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > > > > A filter rule can move it from the mbox file to a maildir. > > > > > > > > > Ok this is getting WAY too complicated. > > > > > > Please explain step by step how I would move my (HUGE) linux-kernel > > > folder to a maildir. > > > > First, you'll have to create the maildir folder tree. Do you > > already have that? > > > > Next, simply > > Edit->Preferences > > Mail Accounts Add > > > > and follow the wizard. > > > > But it gives me a choice of pop OR maildir. I need my messages to be > downloaded from the POP server then delivered into the maildir. Create *both* a "POP" (which is really a local mbox) *and* a maildir store. When you click on Get/Send, it will drop the emails into the mbox file. If you add the appropriate incoming trigger, the emails will then be automagically be moved to the maildir store. BTW, have you ever thought of using fetchmail, Postfix and an IMAP server? That way, your email will be dropped directly into a maildir (as long as you use dovecot or courier). And fetchmail will grab your email even when you aren't logged in. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "We are all faced with a series of great opportunities -- brilliantly disguised as insoluble problems." John W. Gardner ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Sent file too large
On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 12:36 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:22 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 10:45 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 11:50 +0530, B S Srinidhi wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2005-12-27 at 15:40 -0500, Lee Revell wrote: [snip] > > > > A filter rule can move it from the mbox file to a maildir. > > > Ok this is getting WAY too complicated. > > Please explain step by step how I would move my (HUGE) linux-kernel > folder to a maildir. First, you'll have to create the maildir folder tree. Do you already have that? Next, simply Edit->Preferences Mail Accounts Add and follow the wizard. -- - Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson, LA USA "If everybody in this town connected with politics had to leave town because of chasing women and drinking, you would have no government." Senator Barry Goldwater (R-AZ) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
