Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Sorry, I just looked at the date of the email I responded on and realized it was an old thread. On Wed, 2007-07-18 at 14:44 +, Shawn Badger wrote: > Just help support your claim of needing the Exchange connector. I could > not run Linux on my desktop without it. If I can't do e-mail in Linux > (with Exchange) then I have to downgrade back to Windows. > > > On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:23 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > > On 6/20/07, Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI > > > > interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. > > > > > > > > http://www.openchange.org/ > > > > > > > That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will > > > be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with > > > the same. > > > > > > V. Varadhan > > > > > > so using the open-exchange lib is now the direction of the eds > > project? Is this a new direction (ie you just heard about it, and > > think it's a good idea)? Or, was it a strategic decision taken by the > > entire team some time ago, and just in the next couple weeks your time > > has cleared to get started on it? > > > > Frankly I don't see much commitment here to get this done ... why is > > that? I am not criticising you in this Varadhan ... but rather > > wondering out loud why for so long this project has had such little > > commitment of resources? > > > > Perhaps not enough people within Novell/Gnome really "get" just how > > badly the evo exchange connection is required in order to get traction > > with a linux desktop? > > > > At any rate -- to me, it would be very good if, when installing evo, > > if I could select from amongst the various "connector" styles. I would > > like to see as menu options "traditional evo connector" and brutus > > connector (yes, which will assume the process is installed out there > > somewhere). > > > > Hopefully this open exchange lib will provide so traction, quickly too > > it is ridiculous that I have to have a windows vm and Outlook in > > order to view a shared calendar or function even reasonably well with > > exchange. > > > > I've said it before, and can only re-enforce the message ... right now > > it is a deal breaker for wider corp adoption of linux desktop. Please > > get some resources on it and make it a PRIORITY. > > > > Peter > > ___ > > Evolution-list mailing list > > Evolution-list@gnome.org > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Just help support your claim of needing the Exchange connector. I could not run Linux on my desktop without it. If I can't do e-mail in Linux (with Exchange) then I have to downgrade back to Windows. On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:23 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 6/20/07, Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI > > > interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. > > > > > > http://www.openchange.org/ > > > > > That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will > > be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with > > the same. > > > > V. Varadhan > > > so using the open-exchange lib is now the direction of the eds > project? Is this a new direction (ie you just heard about it, and > think it's a good idea)? Or, was it a strategic decision taken by the > entire team some time ago, and just in the next couple weeks your time > has cleared to get started on it? > > Frankly I don't see much commitment here to get this done ... why is > that? I am not criticising you in this Varadhan ... but rather > wondering out loud why for so long this project has had such little > commitment of resources? > > Perhaps not enough people within Novell/Gnome really "get" just how > badly the evo exchange connection is required in order to get traction > with a linux desktop? > > At any rate -- to me, it would be very good if, when installing evo, > if I could select from amongst the various "connector" styles. I would > like to see as menu options "traditional evo connector" and brutus > connector (yes, which will assume the process is installed out there > somewhere). > > Hopefully this open exchange lib will provide so traction, quickly too > it is ridiculous that I have to have a windows vm and Outlook in > order to view a shared calendar or function even reasonably well with > exchange. > > I've said it before, and can only re-enforce the message ... right now > it is a deal breaker for wider corp adoption of linux desktop. Please > get some resources on it and make it a PRIORITY. > > Peter > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 22:13 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > hmmm -- so you ARE seeing incoming exchange mail being > filtered/checked automatically by the bogofilter plugin?? > (sigh) I'm still NOT seeing incoming mail being filtered/checked by > bogofilter. Yes, AFTER I physically went to the Edit / Preferences / Mail Preferences / Junk tab and selected it. Before that it didn't work at all, even though the plugin WAS selected in the plugins list (and the spamassassin plugin wasn't selected in the plugins list). -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 11:57 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > >> perhaps I should reopen >> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434928 >> > > >> Starting evo ala `CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution` >> >> Marking an email as junk results in camel debug output from >> bg-junk-fileter.c. >> However, the debug statement >> d(fprintf (stderr, "em_junk_bf_check_junk\n")); >> never gets called/produces output upon receipt of incoming mail, so >> I'm pretty sure that bogofilter handling is broken. >> >> >> lots of incoming mail => no camel debug output for bogofilter >> Mark an email junk => >> >> camel_junk_plugin_report_junk >> em_junk_bf_report_junk >> camel_junk_plugin_commit_reports >> > > I'm not sure about this, but after selecting bogofilter in the new > "Junk" tab as described in the bugzilla bug above, bogofilter appears to > be working again. My mail is properly filtered for spam and I see that > the ~/.bogofilter/wordlist.db file seems to be updated properly when I > declare something "junk". > > hmmm -- so you ARE seeing incoming exchange mail being filtered/checked automatically by the bogofilter plugin?? (sigh) I'm still NOT seeing incoming mail being filtered/checked by bogofilter. I guess tomorrow i'll rebuild and mv .evolution out of the way and start from scratch/ala fresh install. Thanks ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 11:57 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > perhaps I should reopen > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434928 > Starting evo ala `CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution` > > Marking an email as junk results in camel debug output from > bg-junk-fileter.c. > However, the debug statement > d(fprintf (stderr, "em_junk_bf_check_junk\n")); > never gets called/produces output upon receipt of incoming mail, so > I'm pretty sure that bogofilter handling is broken. > > > lots of incoming mail => no camel debug output for bogofilter > Mark an email junk => > > camel_junk_plugin_report_junk > em_junk_bf_report_junk > camel_junk_plugin_commit_reports I'm not sure about this, but after selecting bogofilter in the new "Junk" tab as described in the bugzilla bug above, bogofilter appears to be working again. My mail is properly filtered for spam and I see that the ~/.bogofilter/wordlist.db file seems to be updated properly when I declare something "junk". -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 10:00 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:53 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:34 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > > So, either the bogofilter plugin is broken in Evo SVN, or when I built > > > > it I did something wrong/forgot to do something right to enable it. > > > > > > > > Anyone know anything about this? > > > > > > > I believe it is broken in SVN, at least for Exchange. I'm not sure > > > whether it is working for other account types or not > > > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444503 > > > > > > you might want to add your comments to the above link > > > > I don't think this is the same problem. Filters I defined are working > > fine for me (actually I don't have any filters on my Exchange account so > > maybe they don't work; I don't know). I have a number of filters that > > redirect my POP mail from mailing lists etc. to different folders and > > those all still work. > > > > Only my bogofilter plugin doesn't work. It only ever used to apply to > > my POP mailboxes, not my Exchange mailbox (my Exchange server uses its > > own spam filtering). I haven't actually tried applying it by hand; > > that's a good idea and I'll try it later today. > > > > sorry -- I was assuming that bogofilter plugin would fall under > filters... > > perhaps I should reopen http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434928 > or if you've opened a bug against this, I can comment to it ... > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list Starting evo ala `CAMEL_DEBUG=all evolution` Marking an email as junk results in camel debug output from bg-junk-fileter.c. However, the debug statement d(fprintf (stderr, "em_junk_bf_check_junk\n")); never gets called/produces output upon receipt of incoming mail, so I'm pretty sure that bogofilter handling is broken. lots of incoming mail => no camel debug output for bogofilter Mark an email junk => camel_junk_plugin_report_junk em_junk_bf_report_junk camel_junk_plugin_commit_reports ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:53 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:34 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > > So, either the bogofilter plugin is broken in Evo SVN, or when I built > > > it I did something wrong/forgot to do something right to enable it. > > > > > > Anyone know anything about this? > > > > > I believe it is broken in SVN, at least for Exchange. I'm not sure > > whether it is working for other account types or not > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444503 > > > > you might want to add your comments to the above link > > I don't think this is the same problem. Filters I defined are working > fine for me (actually I don't have any filters on my Exchange account so > maybe they don't work; I don't know). I have a number of filters that > redirect my POP mail from mailing lists etc. to different folders and > those all still work. > > Only my bogofilter plugin doesn't work. It only ever used to apply to > my POP mailboxes, not my Exchange mailbox (my Exchange server uses its > own spam filtering). I haven't actually tried applying it by hand; > that's a good idea and I'll try it later today. > sorry -- I was assuming that bogofilter plugin would fall under filters... perhaps I should reopen http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=434928 or if you've opened a bug against this, I can comment to it ... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:34 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > So, either the bogofilter plugin is broken in Evo SVN, or when I built > > it I did something wrong/forgot to do something right to enable it. > > > > Anyone know anything about this? > > > I believe it is broken in SVN, at least for Exchange. I'm not sure > whether it is working for other account types or not > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444503 > > you might want to add your comments to the above link I don't think this is the same problem. Filters I defined are working fine for me (actually I don't have any filters on my Exchange account so maybe they don't work; I don't know). I have a number of filters that redirect my POP mail from mailing lists etc. to different folders and those all still work. Only my bogofilter plugin doesn't work. It only ever used to apply to my POP mailboxes, not my Exchange mailbox (my Exchange server uses its own spam filtering). I haven't actually tried applying it by hand; that's a good idea and I'll try it later today. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:49 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:38 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > Did you find the answer to this? > > I'm pretty sure this is a bug, and I didn't solve it. However, I looked > in the code and discovered that if I set the environment variable > EVOLVE_ME_HARDER before invoking Evolution, it would skip the question > altogether. > > I have no idea what else, if anything, setting that variable may do, but > that's how I've been getting Evo SVN to run for now. > I haven't had that popup since very early on -- I seem to recall a checkbox or something of the sort to turn it off... but I may be mis-remembering... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Mon, 2007-07-02 at 09:38 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > Did you find the answer to this? I'm pretty sure this is a bug, and I didn't solve it. However, I looked in the code and discovered that if I set the environment variable EVOLVE_ME_HARDER before invoking Evolution, it would skip the question altogether. I have no idea what else, if anything, setting that variable may do, but that's how I've been getting Evo SVN to run for now. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 10:47 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 12:26 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > > I'm heading out on vacation today - but will check email when > > possible.. Post any questions issues you might have > > Thanks for those pointers Reid. I was able to follow the directions you > provided and the ones on the various web sites and built everything. > > However, when I try to run this Evolution I get a message box warning me > that I'm using a pre-release version of Evolution, which is fine, but I > can't get rid of that box! I click OK and nothing happens; I try to > close it with the window manager and nothing happens. I have to use ^C > or kill to get rid of it. > > > How do I run the test version of evolution? > Back from vacation... Did you find the answer to this? ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Sun, 2007-07-01 at 21:03 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 00:05 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > > > > > * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have > > > > spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. > > You need to select which spam plugin to use in preferences. By default, > > when you install via a rpm, SpamAssasin would be set. You can choose > > Bogofilter also from there. > > I guess I should have been more explicit. Before I started using Evo > SVN (as of last week sometime), I was using Ubuntu 7.04 (Evo 2.10.1). > > I had the bogofilter plugin selected and the spamassassin plugin > unselected, and my spam filtering was working great. > > Since I've updated to Evo SVN, it no longer works (the junk folder is > always empty and all spam stays in my inbox). Note I have NOT recreated > my accounts, reset my gconf settings, etc. etc. It's all left as-is. > > I've checked and I STILL have the bogofilter plugin selected and the > spamassassin filter unselected. > > Further, if I start the packaged Evo 2.10.1 again, then it detects spam > properly still. Start Evo SVN, and no spam detection again. Etc. > > > So, either the bogofilter plugin is broken in Evo SVN, or when I built > it I did something wrong/forgot to do something right to enable it. > > Anyone know anything about this? > I believe it is broken in SVN, at least for Exchange. I'm not sure whether it is working for other account types or not http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=444503 you might want to add your comments to the above link ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 12:26 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > I'm heading out on vacation today - but will check email when > possible.. Post any questions issues you might have Thanks for those pointers Reid. I was able to follow the directions you provided and the ones on the various web sites and built everything. However, when I try to run this Evolution I get a message box warning me that I'm using a pre-release version of Evolution, which is fine, but I can't get rid of that box! I click OK and nothing happens; I try to close it with the window manager and nothing happens. I have to use ^C or kill to get rid of it. How do I run the test version of evolution? -- - Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://netezza.com "Please remain calm--I may be mad, but I am a professional."--Mad Scientist - These are my opinions--Netezza takes no responsibility for them. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Sat, 2007-06-30 at 00:05 +0530, Srinivasa Ragavan wrote: > > > * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have > > > spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. > You need to select which spam plugin to use in preferences. By default, > when you install via a rpm, SpamAssasin would be set. You can choose > Bogofilter also from there. I guess I should have been more explicit. Before I started using Evo SVN (as of last week sometime), I was using Ubuntu 7.04 (Evo 2.10.1). I had the bogofilter plugin selected and the spamassassin plugin unselected, and my spam filtering was working great. Since I've updated to Evo SVN, it no longer works (the junk folder is always empty and all spam stays in my inbox). Note I have NOT recreated my accounts, reset my gconf settings, etc. etc. It's all left as-is. I've checked and I STILL have the bogofilter plugin selected and the spamassassin filter unselected. Further, if I start the packaged Evo 2.10.1 again, then it detects spam properly still. Start Evo SVN, and no spam detection again. Etc. So, either the bogofilter plugin is broken in Evo SVN, or when I built it I did something wrong/forgot to do something right to enable it. Anyone know anything about this? -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 04:49 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > Hi, > On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 03:13 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > I was able to build Evo from current SVN head on my Ubuntu 7.04 based on > > the help provided by Reid and some different websites. It works well; > > it might possibly be a bit more stable. > > > Cool and thanks for trying the SVN trunk. > > > However, I still see most of the same bugs I saw before: > > > > * Slow delete the first time Evo deletes a mail in an Exchange > > session > See > http://vvaradhan.blogspot.com/2007/06/evolution-exchange-performance-series_28.html > . That fix is not yet part of SVN trunk and will be hitting it for 2.11.5 > release. That patch will fix this issue as well. > > > * In one of my instances Exchange mail is new but isn't in the > > summary > Do you mean, the mail wasn't shown or just the read/unread flag was not > in sync? > > > * In another instance deleting the last mail doesn't automatically > > select the second-to-last one (causing the summary to scroll > > back to the beginning of the buffer). > I think this one got fixed.. let me see, if I can get the patch to > upstream. > > > * Passwords for POP accounts aren't stored and have to be retyped > > whenever Evo restarts (unlike Exchange passwords, which ARE > > stored). > > > Do you have keyring enabled? If so, can you check whether it is stored > in keyring or not? > > > I also see a few new issues: > > > > * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have > > spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. You need to select which spam plugin to use in preferences. By default, when you install via a rpm, SpamAssasin would be set. You can choose Bogofilter also from there. -Srini. > > * When I use Send/Receive the dialog that pops up is too short to > > hold my 4 accounts (2 POP, one Exchange, and sendmail) without > > scrolling or resizing by hand, which is annoying (in 2.10 and > > previous this wasn't a problem). > > > Srini:^^ ? > > V. Varadhan ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 04:49 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > Hi, > On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 03:13 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > > I was able to build Evo from current SVN head on my Ubuntu 7.04 based on > > the help provided by Reid and some different websites. It works well; > > it might possibly be a bit more stable. > > > Cool and thanks for trying the SVN trunk. > > > However, I still see most of the same bugs I saw before: > > > > * Slow delete the first time Evo deletes a mail in an Exchange > > session > See > http://vvaradhan.blogspot.com/2007/06/evolution-exchange-performance-series_28.html > . That fix is not yet part of SVN trunk and will be hitting it for 2.11.5 > release. That patch will fix this issue as well. > > > * In one of my instances Exchange mail is new but isn't in the > > summary > Do you mean, the mail wasn't shown or just the read/unread flag was not > in sync? > > > * In another instance deleting the last mail doesn't automatically > > select the second-to-last one (causing the summary to scroll > > back to the beginning of the buffer). > I think this one got fixed.. let me see, if I can get the patch to > upstream. > > > * Passwords for POP accounts aren't stored and have to be retyped > > whenever Evo restarts (unlike Exchange passwords, which ARE > > stored). > > > Do you have keyring enabled? If so, can you check whether it is stored > in keyring or not? > > > I also see a few new issues: > > > > * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have > > spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. > > * When I use Send/Receive the dialog that pops up is too short to > > hold my 4 accounts (2 POP, one Exchange, and sendmail) without > > scrolling or resizing by hand, which is annoying (in 2.10 and > > previous this wasn't a problem). > > Matthew was looking at this IIRC. -Srini > Srini:^^ ? > > V. Varadhan ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 04:49 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > * In one of my instances Exchange mail is new but isn't in the > > summary > Do you mean, the mail wasn't shown or just the read/unread flag was not > in sync? I mean bug http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=442098 I've tried a few times to get more info as described by the bug; I'll try again. > Do you have keyring enabled? If so, can you check whether it is stored > in keyring or not? It stores my Exchange passwords just fine. The checkbox on the POP dialog says "save for the rest of this session" but there's no option to "save always". Is that just not a feature of Evo's POP capabilities? > > I also see a few new issues: > > > > * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have > > spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. > > * When I use Send/Receive the dialog that pops up is too short to > > hold my 4 accounts (2 POP, one Exchange, and sendmail) without > > scrolling or resizing by hand, which is annoying (in 2.10 and > > previous this wasn't a problem). > > > Srini:^^ ? The spam filtering uses the Bogofilter plugin. Is there something special I have to do at build time to get that to work? -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Hi, On Fri, 2007-06-29 at 03:13 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > I was able to build Evo from current SVN head on my Ubuntu 7.04 based on > the help provided by Reid and some different websites. It works well; > it might possibly be a bit more stable. > Cool and thanks for trying the SVN trunk. > However, I still see most of the same bugs I saw before: > > * Slow delete the first time Evo deletes a mail in an Exchange > session See http://vvaradhan.blogspot.com/2007/06/evolution-exchange-performance-series_28.html . That fix is not yet part of SVN trunk and will be hitting it for 2.11.5 release. That patch will fix this issue as well. > * In one of my instances Exchange mail is new but isn't in the > summary Do you mean, the mail wasn't shown or just the read/unread flag was not in sync? > * In another instance deleting the last mail doesn't automatically > select the second-to-last one (causing the summary to scroll > back to the beginning of the buffer). I think this one got fixed.. let me see, if I can get the patch to upstream. > * Passwords for POP accounts aren't stored and have to be retyped > whenever Evo restarts (unlike Exchange passwords, which ARE > stored). > Do you have keyring enabled? If so, can you check whether it is stored in keyring or not? > I also see a few new issues: > > * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have > spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. > * When I use Send/Receive the dialog that pops up is too short to > hold my 4 accounts (2 POP, one Exchange, and sendmail) without > scrolling or resizing by hand, which is annoying (in 2.10 and > previous this wasn't a problem). > Srini:^^ ? V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
I was able to build Evo from current SVN head on my Ubuntu 7.04 based on the help provided by Reid and some different websites. It works well; it might possibly be a bit more stable. However, I still see most of the same bugs I saw before: * Slow delete the first time Evo deletes a mail in an Exchange session * In one of my instances Exchange mail is new but isn't in the summary * In another instance deleting the last mail doesn't automatically select the second-to-last one (causing the summary to scroll back to the beginning of the buffer). * Passwords for POP accounts aren't stored and have to be retyped whenever Evo restarts (unlike Exchange passwords, which ARE stored). I also see a few new issues: * I was using Bayesian spam filtering via the plugin (I have spamassasin disabled) but that's not working anymore. * When I use Send/Receive the dialog that pops up is too short to hold my 4 accounts (2 POP, one Exchange, and sendmail) without scrolling or resizing by hand, which is annoying (in 2.10 and previous this wasn't a problem). It seems like there was something else but now I've forgotten it. -- --- Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Find some GNU make tips at: http://www.gnu.org http://make.paulandlesley.org "Please remain calm...I may be mad, but I am a professional." --Mad Scientist ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 08:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 04:50 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > > BTW, is it possible to run Evo 2.11 without installing all of Gnome > > > 2.19? In other words, can I build Evo (even if I use garnome and > > > build all of gnome and install it in a separate location) but then > > > just run Evo 2.11 with my Feisty Gnome 2.18.1 desktop? Or does Evo > > > depend on some features only available in Gnome 2.19? > > I'm building and running against HEAD every couple of days ( depending > on how often commits are made ) with GNOME 2.18.1. UBUNTU 7.04 feisty. I tried compiling on CVS Trunk (Actually, is trunk better or using HEAD better?) Anyway, it borked on exchange-backend (for evolution-exchange) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 08:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > I'm building and running against HEAD every couple of days ( depending > on how often commits are made ) with GNOME 2.18.1. UBUNTU 7.04 > feisty. > > Compilation is pretty straightforward. Can you give a couple of sentences of howto? I've done a lot of building of software so I don't need anything detailed at all; mainly what source packages I would need and what Ubuntu -dev packages to install (if you remember them :) ), plus any build order tips etc. -- - Paul D. Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://netezza.com "Please remain calm--I may be mad, but I am a professional."--Mad Scientist - These are my opinions--Netezza takes no responsibility for them. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 08:54 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > 2.11.5 will be one of the rock-solid releases in the history of > Evolution-exchange connector. If you are not an user of Exchange 2007 > and have issues, feel free to direct to us. I think Reid and others > would agree to me on this - we will work on the issue and resolve it. I'm all for anything that makes the system more stable. I don't use shared folders or shared calendars (just free/busy to schedule meetings), and foverall Evo works well. I don't want to whine too much because I well remember the Evo 1.4 days and how buggy the connector was back then, and life has improved dramatically since then! But, there ARE still serious problems in Evo/Connector (I'm using 2.10.1 on Ubuntu Feisty): 436628: No reminders for scheduled meetings This is probably the worst one. The main reason I moved to Evo was to get reminders for my meetings. I still regularly am late to or completely miss a meeting or two a week because of this (I missed two meetings just today!!) 442098: New mail shows up in the folder but not in the summary window This one is a killer for productivity. If it weren't for the fact that it only happens on my system at home and not my work system I'd be tearing my hair out. I literally have to restart Evo every 15 minutes or so to see my new mail when I'm at home. 442186: Delete of the first Exchange message after Evo starts takes ~30 seconds This is just a small thing but (combined with 442098 which causes me to stop/start Evo many times a day) it's quite annoying. 436615: Editing existing meetings with Address Book deletes all attendees This is truly annoying; I only rate it lower because if you're paying attention you can usually avoid the problem (by not using the Address Book). 436619: Adding a meeting room as "Resource" gives "unable to book" This is another annoying one but once you know the trick you can work around it so it's not as important. Here's the thing: these bugs have all been filed for weeks, and yet there has not been a single note filed, request for more info, or any other indication anyone even knows they exist. I often see people on this list ask if a bug has been filed in Bugzilla but I don't see much incentive for anyone to do so: to me it seems like the only way an issue gets much traction is to raise it here rather than Bugzilla. Just my $0.02. BTW, is it possible to run Evo 2.11 without installing all of Gnome 2.19? In other words, can I build Evo (even if I use garnome and build all of gnome and install it in a separate location) but then just run Evo 2.11 with my Feisty Gnome 2.18.1 desktop? Or does Evo depend on some features only available in Gnome 2.19? ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Reid Thompson wrote: > Paul Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 08:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: >> >> >>> I'm building and running against HEAD every couple of days ( depending >>> on how often commits are made ) with GNOME 2.18.1. UBUNTU 7.04 >>> feisty. >>> >>> Compilation is pretty straightforward. >>> >>> >> Can you give a couple of sentences of howto? I've done a lot of >> building of software so I don't need anything detailed at all; mainly >> what source packages I would need and what Ubuntu -dev packages to >> install (if you remember them :) ), plus any build order tips etc. >> >> >> > it's been a while,, so... > > i'd start with a > > apt-get build-dep evolution evolution-exchange evolution-data-server gtkhtml > libsoup > > that should get the build dependencies > > I then did an svn checkout for each of evolution evolution-exchange > evolution-data-server gtkhtml libsoup > > see http://www.go-evolution.org/Compiling_Evolution_from_SVN > > > I'm heading out on vacation today - but will check email when possible.. Post > any questions issues you might have > > > I also > > export CFLAGS='-g -Wall' > > > and I put the exes in /usr > > > libsoup > ./congfigure --prefix=/usr > make > sudo make install > > > GtkHTML > ./configure --prefix=/usr > make > make install > > evolution-data-server > ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-openldap=yes --with-e2k-debug > make > sudo make install > > > > evolution > ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-nntp=yes --enable-imap4=yes > --enable-cairo-calendar=yes --enable-mono=yes --enable-exchange=yes > --enable-plugins=all --with-openldap=yes --with-e2k-debug > make > sudo make install > > > evolution-exchange > ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-openldap=yes --with-e2k-debug > make > sudo make install > > > > > > > > > ___ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list > as a note -- you might have to explicitly re-link /usr/bin/evolution to /usr/bin/evolution-2.12... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Paul Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 08:17 -0400, Reid Thompson wrote: > >> I'm building and running against HEAD every couple of days ( depending >> on how often commits are made ) with GNOME 2.18.1. UBUNTU 7.04 >> feisty. >> >> Compilation is pretty straightforward. >> > > Can you give a couple of sentences of howto? I've done a lot of > building of software so I don't need anything detailed at all; mainly > what source packages I would need and what Ubuntu -dev packages to > install (if you remember them :) ), plus any build order tips etc. > > it's been a while,, so... i'd start with a apt-get build-dep evolution evolution-exchange evolution-data-server gtkhtml libsoup that should get the build dependencies I then did an svn checkout for each of evolution evolution-exchange evolution-data-server gtkhtml libsoup see http://www.go-evolution.org/Compiling_Evolution_from_SVN I'm heading out on vacation today - but will check email when possible.. Post any questions issues you might have I also export CFLAGS='-g -Wall' and I put the exes in /usr libsoup ./congfigure --prefix=/usr make sudo make install GtkHTML ./configure --prefix=/usr make make install evolution-data-server ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-openldap=yes --with-e2k-debug make sudo make install evolution ./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-nntp=yes --enable-imap4=yes --enable-cairo-calendar=yes --enable-mono=yes --enable-exchange=yes --enable-plugins=all --with-openldap=yes --with-e2k-debug make sudo make install evolution-exchange ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-openldap=yes --with-e2k-debug make sudo make install ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 04:50 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > BTW, is it possible to run Evo 2.11 without installing all of Gnome > > 2.19? In other words, can I build Evo (even if I use garnome and > > build all of gnome and install it in a separate location) but then > > just run Evo 2.11 with my Feisty Gnome 2.18.1 desktop? Or does Evo > > depend on some features only available in Gnome 2.19? I'm building and running against HEAD every couple of days ( depending on how often commits are made ) with GNOME 2.18.1. UBUNTU 7.04 feisty. Compilation is pretty straightforward. ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 20:43 -0400, Paul Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 08:54 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > > 2.11.5 will be one of the rock-solid releases in the history of > > Evolution-exchange connector. If you are not an user of Exchange 2007 > > and have issues, feel free to direct to us. I think Reid and others > > would agree to me on this - we will work on the issue and resolve it. > > I'm all for anything that makes the system more stable. I don't use > shared folders or shared calendars (just free/busy to schedule > meetings), and foverall Evo works well. I don't want to whine too > much because I well remember the Evo 1.4 days and how buggy the > connector was back then, and life has improved dramatically since > then! > > But, there ARE still serious problems in Evo/Connector (I'm using > 2.10.1 on Ubuntu Feisty): > > 436628: No reminders for scheduled meetings > This is probably the worst one. The main reason I moved to Evo was to > get reminders for my meetings. I still regularly am late to or > completely miss a meeting or two a week because of this (I missed two > meetings just today!!) > We have worked on this issue, IIRC and have fixes for it. We will be comitting it for 2.11.5. > 442098: New mail shows up in the folder but not in the summary window > This one is a killer for productivity. If it weren't for the fact > that it only happens on my system at home and not my work system I'd > be tearing my hair out. I literally have to restart Evo every 15 > minutes or so to see my new mail when I'm at home. > This one is a serious issue and I have been trying hard to reproduce, but in vain. I have worked with couple of users on this in #evolution IRC channel in irc.gimp.org. Can anyone of you - whoever is facing this issue - give me a scenario to reproduce this reliably? I can guarantee a fix in 2 days, once I have the scenario. Our test environment works fine and that cannot be really relied upon for such bugs. > 442186: Delete of the first Exchange message after Evo starts takes > ~30 seconds > This is just a small thing but (combined with 442098 which causes me > to stop/start Evo many times a day) it's quite annoying. > This is fixed and will be committed for 2.11.5. Once the fix is committed, I will update the bug with a little-readme about the fix. > 436615: Editing existing meetings with Address Book deletes all > attendees > This is truly annoying; I only rate it lower because if you're paying > attention you can usually avoid the problem (by not using the Address > Book). > > 436619: Adding a meeting room as "Resource" gives "unable to book" > This is another annoying one but once you know the trick you can work > around it so it's not as important. > > Here's the thing: these bugs have all been filed for weeks, and yet > there has not been a single note filed, request for more info, or any > other indication anyone even knows they exist. I often see people on > this list ask if a bug has been filed in Bugzilla but I don't see much > incentive for anyone to do so: to me it seems like the only way an > issue gets much traction is to raise it here rather than Bugzilla. > I agree with you on this. We weren't doing great with bugzilla, but, recently we started improving our activities. However, it would take little time and in order to quicken up, I have created http://www.go-evolution.org/Connector-bugs for easier interaction with the development team. (A little duplication, but effective) > Just my $0.02. > Very much appreciated. Devs/Hackers have their own priority of tasks and are quite prone to miss paying attention to bugs immediately. This kind of a friendly poke will help them adjust their priority to accommodate some of these as TODOs. > BTW, is it possible to run Evo 2.11 without installing all of Gnome > 2.19? In other words, can I build Evo (even if I use garnome and > build all of gnome and install it in a separate location) but then > just run Evo 2.11 with my Feisty Gnome 2.18.1 desktop? Or does Evo > depend on some features only available in Gnome 2.19? Yes, it is possible and you don't need other GNOME 2.19 modules - except libsoup, gtkhtml, EDS, Evolution and Evolution-exchange for running latest and hot 2.11.x code base. Thanks, V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 16:40 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:05 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > > > Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for > > > a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully > > > compatible groupware client for exchange. > > > > > Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and > > To the majority of us, for us that really want to at least get our > emails off the server, having this work is essential, esp when they've > closed off the POP/IMAP ports. > > I for one, am only interested in gettting the mails. Calendering and > others can wait. > > Veerapuram is a novell employee and he's tasked to get evo-exchange > working and we, at least can just support him. (Unless of course, we can > send him patches!) > Thanks for the support, Heng. I will work on it and atleast make it fetch mails/calendars/contacts, if not the extended features in Exchange 2007. > > BTW, openchange looks great.. > > Brutus is another one which looks great on paper (but I have 1 nit-pick > which has prevented me from evaluating it - it needs a windows box to be > installed to - the server portion anyway to do the MAPI translation) Brutus and Openchange are two other options, apart from the default evolution-exchange connector, to access a MS Exchange mailbox. And, both are in active development are good enough for everyone to try it. Above all, its the power of F/OSS - "choice" - one is not bound to a particular product/software. If the question is about Evolution embracing Brutus/Openchange/implement support for MS Exchange Web Service protocol (the new interface that would replace the current webDAV interface), I would say it is too early to comment now and let them evolve - in terms of stability/performance/feature support/user base. ;-) Thanks, V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 07:23 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 6/20/07, Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI > > > interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. > > > > > > http://www.openchange.org/ > > > > > That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will > > be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with > > the same. > > > > V. Varadhan > > > so using the open-exchange lib is now the direction of the eds > project? Is this a new direction (ie you just heard about it, and > think it's a good idea)? Or, was it a strategic decision taken by the > entire team some time ago, and just in the next couple weeks your time > has cleared to get started on it? > It is isn't a new direction. We have heard about it little long back and I personally have been following their development and milestones closely. All strategic decisions are taken after careful evaluation and as the current Exchange connector has evolved over the years to the extent that now it can connect out of the box for most of the user scenarios - any decision to adapt to new framework will have to undergo a series of brainstorming. Couple of weeks time is for us to arrive at a plan/roadmap and publish it for the hacker/user community that are interested in Evolution. This roadmap will not throw-away the development of Evolution-exchange connector, rather serve as a place holder for openchange hackers to work closely with our team/community. Once the plugin evolves and stable enough to take the place of Evolution-exchange connector - a decision will be made based on user feedbacks. > Frankly I don't see much commitment here to get this done ... why is > that? I am not criticising you in this Varadhan ... but rather > wondering out loud why for so long this project has had such little > commitment of resources? > If you are talking about commitment on supporting Exchange 2007 - Yes, we are committed to support it and we even have mentioned to support it in 2.12 release. Let me know if you have any other ways of giving a commitment. > Perhaps not enough people within Novell/Gnome really "get" just how > badly the evo exchange connection is required in order to get traction > with a linux desktop? > Every one, both at Novell/GNOME, understands that Evolution - Exchange connectivity is quite vital for Linux desktop adoption and we are committed to fulfill it. If you would have closely watched the development of Evolution-exchange connector atleast for the last three releases, 2.6.x, 2.8.x and 2.10.x - it has become quite stable and getting better and better with every release. We have fixed loads of issues - both functionality and performance wise and are committed to do better. As of this moment, I am collecting some data-points on my recent optimization work that will make most of our evolution-exchange users stand on their toes and even out-performs MS Outlook. > Hopefully this open exchange lib will provide so traction, quickly too > it is ridiculous that I have to have a windows vm and Outlook in > order to view a shared calendar or function even reasonably well with > exchange. > Evolution does support shared calendar and public folder subscription/other user folder subscription are the areas that we have worked extensively in the recent past and are quite stable now. 2.11.5 will be one of the rock-solid releases in the history of Evolution-exchange connector. If you are not an user of Exchange 2007 and have issues, feel free to direct to us. I think Reid and others would agree to me on this - we will work on the issue and resolve it. > I've said it before, and can only re-enforce the message ... right now > it is a deal breaker for wider corp adoption of linux desktop. Please > get some resources on it and make it a PRIORITY. > If you are mentioning about Exchange 2007 - Yes and Yes, we are committed to resolve it before we release 2.12. Thanks, V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On 6/20/07, Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI > > interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. > > > > http://www.openchange.org/ > > > That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will > be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with > the same. > > V. Varadhan so using the open-exchange lib is now the direction of the eds project? Is this a new direction (ie you just heard about it, and think it's a good idea)? Or, was it a strategic decision taken by the entire team some time ago, and just in the next couple weeks your time has cleared to get started on it? Frankly I don't see much commitment here to get this done ... why is that? I am not criticising you in this Varadhan ... but rather wondering out loud why for so long this project has had such little commitment of resources? Perhaps not enough people within Novell/Gnome really "get" just how badly the evo exchange connection is required in order to get traction with a linux desktop? At any rate -- to me, it would be very good if, when installing evo, if I could select from amongst the various "connector" styles. I would like to see as menu options "traditional evo connector" and brutus connector (yes, which will assume the process is installed out there somewhere). Hopefully this open exchange lib will provide so traction, quickly too it is ridiculous that I have to have a windows vm and Outlook in order to view a shared calendar or function even reasonably well with exchange. I've said it before, and can only re-enforce the message ... right now it is a deal breaker for wider corp adoption of linux desktop. Please get some resources on it and make it a PRIORITY. Peter ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Thu, 2007-06-21 at 16:40 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > BTW, openchange looks great.. > > Brutus is another one which looks great on paper (but I have 1 nit-pick > which has prevented me from evaluating it - it needs a windows box to be > installed to - the server portion anyway to do the MAPI translation) Yes, I admit that the Windows server requirement is annoying but as Varadhan said: "Reverse engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility..." So the Windows server part is needed if Brutus should be 100% compatible with native MAPI. A less perfect solution, one that would remove the Windows server requirement, would be to use libmapi (once available) in Brutus Server and relocate it to, say, linux. That would maintain the most important feature of Brutus, platform independence for the clients, and at the same time free the server from the Windows requirement but at the cost of 100% compatibility with native MAPI(*). Anyway - just speculating here... Best regards, jules (*) It might also impact the ability of Brutus to support Lotus Domino which we are working on. Time will show... ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 09:05 -0600, Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for > > a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully > > compatible groupware client for exchange. > > > Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and To the majority of us, for us that really want to at least get our emails off the server, having this work is essential, esp when they've closed off the POP/IMAP ports. I for one, am only interested in gettting the mails. Calendering and others can wait. Veerapuram is a novell employee and he's tasked to get evo-exchange working and we, at least can just support him. (Unless of course, we can send him patches!) BTW, openchange looks great.. Brutus is another one which looks great on paper (but I have 1 nit-pick which has prevented me from evaluating it - it needs a windows box to be installed to - the server portion anyway to do the MAPI translation) ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 12:02 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > Mistakenly, I had hit reply - instead of Reply All. Here is the > > conversation. > > > > Thanks, > > > > V. Varadhan > > > > Forwarded Message > > From: Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007 > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:12:43 +0530 > > > > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 07:18 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > >> On 6/20/07, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> That is good to hear. The upgrade to Exchange 2007 was inevitable for > >>> most companies and mine got chomped into it as well. > >>> > >>> Looking forward to the new release > >> > >> you call this good news, huh? > >> > >> The fact that many many months after release of the current product, > >> we find that there is 1 (one!) developer resource taked with "figuring > >> it out" and that after a couple weeks from now that 1(one!) develper > >> will (assuming other things don't get in the way) turn attention to it > >> again? > >> > >> Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for > >> a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully > >> compatible groupware client for exchange. > >> > > Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and > > release deadlines. You can help us gain more momentum, by providing > > more insights on WebDAV / OWA interface in Exchange 2007, point us to KB > > articles or some other links that can help us proceed little faster. > > Evolution exchange connector (2.11.x) is still quite stable for Exchange > > 2003 and Exchange 2000 (if any) users. Its getting better and better in > > every releases that we make. So, I would say, keep your hopes high and > > lets help each other to achieve what we want. > > > >> We do not have that situation -- so some 70% of the networks out > >> there, are that much further out of range. > >> > > These are not really out of range, still achievable. > > > > Thanks, > > > > V. Varadhan > > > It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI > interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. > > http://www.openchange.org/ > That is definitely the future direction of Evolution-exchange. We will be evaluating this in couple of weeks and update go-evolution.org with the same. V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 12:02 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > > Mistakenly, I had hit reply - instead of Reply All. Here is the > > conversation. > > > > Thanks, > > > > V. Varadhan > > > > Forwarded Message > > From: Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007 > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:12:43 +0530 > > > > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 07:18 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > >> On 6/20/07, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> That is good to hear. The upgrade to Exchange 2007 was inevitable for > >>> most companies and mine got chomped into it as well. > >>> > >>> Looking forward to the new release > >> > >> you call this good news, huh? > >> > >> The fact that many many months after release of the current product, > >> we find that there is 1 (one!) developer resource taked with "figuring > >> it out" and that after a couple weeks from now that 1(one!) develper > >> will (assuming other things don't get in the way) turn attention to it > >> again? > >> > >> Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for > >> a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully > >> compatible groupware client for exchange. > >> > > Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and > > release deadlines. You can help us gain more momentum, by providing > > more insights on WebDAV / OWA interface in Exchange 2007, point us to KB > > articles or some other links that can help us proceed little faster. > > Evolution exchange connector (2.11.x) is still quite stable for Exchange > > 2003 and Exchange 2000 (if any) users. Its getting better and better in > > every releases that we make. So, I would say, keep your hopes high and > > lets help each other to achieve what we want. > > > >> We do not have that situation -- so some 70% of the networks out > >> there, are that much further out of range. > >> > > These are not really out of range, still achievable. > > > > Thanks, > > > > V. Varadhan > > > It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI > interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. > > http://www.openchange.org/ > has anyone tried this...??? OpenChange Evolution plugin TP1 release * Download openchange-eplugin package and RPM This gnome evolution plugin based on libmapi provides interoperability with Microsoft Exchange Server and provides the set of features described below: * Create an OpenChange/Exchange account in the Evolution Account wizard * Fetch, Send and Delete emails with/without attachments to internal users * Manage Importance and read/unread flags * Display a light hierarchy of Mailbox folders (inbox, outbox, trash, sent items) * Save emails headers summary on the local filesystem ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Veerapuram Varadhan wrote: > Mistakenly, I had hit reply - instead of Reply All. Here is the > conversation. > > Thanks, > > V. Varadhan > > Forwarded Message > From: Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007 > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:12:43 +0530 > > On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 07:18 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: >> On 6/20/07, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> That is good to hear. The upgrade to Exchange 2007 was inevitable for >>> most companies and mine got chomped into it as well. >>> >>> Looking forward to the new release >> >> you call this good news, huh? >> >> The fact that many many months after release of the current product, >> we find that there is 1 (one!) developer resource taked with "figuring >> it out" and that after a couple weeks from now that 1(one!) develper >> will (assuming other things don't get in the way) turn attention to it >> again? >> >> Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for >> a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully >> compatible groupware client for exchange. >> > Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and > release deadlines. You can help us gain more momentum, by providing > more insights on WebDAV / OWA interface in Exchange 2007, point us to KB > articles or some other links that can help us proceed little faster. > Evolution exchange connector (2.11.x) is still quite stable for Exchange > 2003 and Exchange 2000 (if any) users. Its getting better and better in > every releases that we make. So, I would say, keep your hopes high and > lets help each other to achieve what we want. > >> We do not have that situation -- so some 70% of the networks out >> there, are that much further out of range. >> > These are not really out of range, still achievable. > > Thanks, > > V. Varadhan It would be ideal if it could bypass OWA and just access the MAPI interface. Maybe the Openchange MAPI libs will help to achieve this. http://www.openchange.org/ -- Due to the move to M$ Exchange Server, anything that is a priority, please phone. Robin Laing ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
[Evolution] [Fwd: Re: Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007]
Mistakenly, I had hit reply - instead of Reply All. Here is the conversation. Thanks, V. Varadhan Forwarded Message From: Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Peter Van Lone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Evolution-Connector W/ Exchange 2007 Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:12:43 +0530 On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 07:18 -0500, Peter Van Lone wrote: > On 6/20/07, Ow Mun Heng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > That is good to hear. The upgrade to Exchange 2007 was inevitable for > > most companies and mine got chomped into it as well. > > > > Looking forward to the new release > > > you call this good news, huh? > > The fact that many many months after release of the current product, > we find that there is 1 (one!) developer resource taked with "figuring > it out" and that after a couple weeks from now that 1(one!) develper > will (assuming other things don't get in the way) turn attention to it > again? > > Good god .. no wonder the connector is unuseable. I had high hopes for > a linux desktop, in part based on the expectation of having a fully > compatible groupware client for exchange. > Revere engineered products/projects do lack 100% compatibility and release deadlines. You can help us gain more momentum, by providing more insights on WebDAV / OWA interface in Exchange 2007, point us to KB articles or some other links that can help us proceed little faster. Evolution exchange connector (2.11.x) is still quite stable for Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2000 (if any) users. Its getting better and better in every releases that we make. So, I would say, keep your hopes high and lets help each other to achieve what we want. > We do not have that situation -- so some 70% of the networks out > there, are that much further out of range. > These are not really out of range, still achievable. Thanks, V. Varadhan -- Veerapuram Varadhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novell, Inc. Software for the Open Enterprise™ http://www.novell.com ___ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
