Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 09:02 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > Calendar->View->Current View->[Sorted View|Day View|Work Week > View|Week View|Month View|List View] Hi, I see. I do not have it here, I guess you saved it some time ago. Those views can be "derived" only from the existing views, thus it's the List View with some custom modifications (like the sorting, shown columns, and so on). You can save the views to be able to switch to them easily and quickly. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Tue, 2021-06-08 at 09:49 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 17:20 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > > Can I ask though (as because of this I have been playing with the > > calendar views!) - what then is the sorted view if not the list > > view > > in sheep's clothing? > > Hi, > what do you mean with the "sorted view", please? Is that just the > current List View? Milan, Calendar->View->Current View->[Sorted View|Day View|Work Week View|Week View|Month View|List View] ...so 'Sorted View' is the first of the pre-defined available views on my drop down list. It appears to give the same result (at first glance) as 'List View' but without the event type - hence my second comment. Regards, Steve T ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 17:20 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > Can I ask though (as because of this I have been playing with the > calendar views!) - what then is the sorted view if not the list view > in sheep's clothing? Hi, what do you mean with the "sorted view", please? Is that just the current List View? > I can customise the sorted view and add the type - which then seems > to be the 'new' list view. Is the sorted view also then new? Any table can be sorted, the easiest is to click the column heading, alternatively with a Ctrl key down, to "add this column as the next column for sorting". Eventually right-click any of the column headers and choose "Customize View", which will offer you other options. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 17:56 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 16:38 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > > So the list isn't a 'reminder' of future events - more a data check > > list? > > Hi, > yes, that's correct. You can see all your events in the calendar. > > > But even then to verify events in any month I'd have to go back to > > day 1 (in my case 2003) and go through each year to build a picture > > of a month - is that right? > > Correct. > > > Can I ask what people would use the list view for now? > > Check the bug report I referenced earlier. There is the use case. > > My understanding is: people want to see what they have defined in the > calendar and eventually cleanup or anything like that the events from > there. There was no such place for it in the past. > > > That's not meant as a criticism in anyway, just that I may be > > missing > > something that I hadn't thought of using! > > That's okay, I just removed functionality you've been used to. Such > things hurt (I know that, it happened to me too in the past, with > other > projects). > > What is the biggest problem of the Month View for you that you do not > use it, please? do you have many events per day, thus they all are > not > visible in the day rectangle? > > Bye, > Milan No real problem with the month view at all Milan. It's all habit isn't it? - I've been using Evolution (brilliant product by the way - thank you) for years...decades...and I like lists more than a block view (my file manager I use as lists etc) - so it's just that that is how I viewed 'stuff'. No issue for me to switch. Can I ask though (as because of this I have been playing with the calendar views!) - what then is the sorted view if not the list view in sheep's clothing? I can customise the sorted view and add the type - which then seems to be the 'new' list view. Is the sorted view also then new? Regards, Steve T ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 16:38 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > So the list isn't a 'reminder' of future events - more a data check > list? Hi, yes, that's correct. You can see all your events in the calendar. > But even then to verify events in any month I'd have to go back to > day 1 (in my case 2003) and go through each year to build a picture > of a month - is that right? Correct. > Can I ask what people would use the list view for now? Check the bug report I referenced earlier. There is the use case. My understanding is: people want to see what they have defined in the calendar and eventually cleanup or anything like that the events from there. There was no such place for it in the past. > That's not meant as a criticism in anyway, just that I may be missing > something that I hadn't thought of using! That's okay, I just removed functionality you've been used to. Such things hurt (I know that, it happened to me too in the past, with other projects). What is the biggest problem of the Month View for you that you do not use it, please? do you have many events per day, thus they all are not visible in the day rectangle? Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 17:10 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 15:41 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > > OK. Does it works as expected? > > Hi, > it shows you all the events stored in the calendar, with no time > limit. > > I suppose those "missing" events from the Month view are recurring > events. The recurring events are not expanded in the List View, > intentionally (a "forever" repeating event would clutter the List > View > easily). You see only the first instance of the recurring events in > the > List View, with all the detached instances, which are exceptions for > the recurrence. Check the icons of the events, those with the > circular > arrow (though it depends on your icon theme what it looks like [1]) > are > recurring events. > > I'm afraid you cannot use the List View the way you are used to. I'm > sorry. > Bye, > Milan > > [1] > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/raw/master/Adwaita/scalable/actions/view-refresh-symbolic.svg > > ___ OK. I must admit I don't see what use the list view would be to me then as I'd have to know when I set up a recurring event (ie if I set my brother's birthday up in 2008, then the first occurrence would be 2008 - but I would never remember that). So the list isn't a 'reminder' of future events - more a data check list? But even then to verify events in any month I'd have to go back to day 1 (in my case 2003) and go through each year to build a picture of a month - is that right? Can I ask what people would use the list view for now? That's not meant as a criticism in anyway, just that I may be missing something that I hadn't thought of using! Regards, Steve T ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 15:41 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > OK. Does it works as expected? Hi, it shows you all the events stored in the calendar, with no time limit. I suppose those "missing" events from the Month view are recurring events. The recurring events are not expanded in the List View, intentionally (a "forever" repeating event would clutter the List View easily). You see only the first instance of the recurring events in the List View, with all the detached instances, which are exceptions for the recurrence. Check the icons of the events, those with the circular arrow (though it depends on your icon theme what it looks like [1]) are recurring events. I'm afraid you cannot use the List View the way you are used to. I'm sorry. Bye, Milan [1] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/adwaita-icon-theme/-/raw/master/Adwaita/scalable/actions/view-refresh-symbolic.svg ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 11:55 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 07:53 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > > Has the list view changed from showing just a month's block to > > showing > > all events? > > Hi, > yes, it was changed. See: > https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/95 > > > Is there a way to have a list view of calendar events that shows by > > month block? > > No, it's not possible to make it work the way it was before the > change. > Please note you see only a single calendar in the List View now. > Bye, > Milan Milan, OK. Does it works as expected? I get a list of events going back to 2003, but I only get a few future list events. If I look at the list today, I see events on the list for the 14th and 19th June and then a massive gap to the 12th December. On the month view, I see all the events I have for June (8 in total) - and if I then move through the months (via the month selector) I have events for July, August etc that don't appear on the list view. Also, I assume that it's intentional that the month view shows the month of the active row in the list view (as that is what it appears to show) - but that doesn't work in reverse. IE if I'm on the 15th May 2019 in the list view, switching to the month view appears to show May 2019 - fine. But if I'm in month view in May 2019 and switch to list view, it shows me 2003. If the month view showed that month in the list view (ie with that month starting at the top of the screen?), then that gives me roughly what was there before anyway - if that makes sense. Regards, Steve T ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Calendar list changes?
On Mon, 2021-06-07 at 07:53 +0100, Steve T via evolution-list wrote: > Has the list view changed from showing just a month's block to showing > all events? Hi, yes, it was changed. See: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/evolution/-/issues/95 > Is there a way to have a list view of calendar events that shows by > month block? No, it's not possible to make it work the way it was before the change. Please note you see only a single calendar in the List View now. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
