Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 19:35 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > I've also seen such Input/Output errors for local folders (POP3) > sometimes in 3.28. Opening the message again has always fixed them. > > andre -- I wonder why that happens / why EVO does that to emails sometimes? That's the first time i've ever seen that message pop up before. And i've only been using EVO for about a week, maybe two weeks in total. Thank you and take care! -- Chris Main Email address: ch...@cwm030.com (Please send all off topic messages to my main address..Thanks) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 12:24 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > I did have something weird happen. > > When reading this exact email on my phone and then going to EVO and > downloading and opening the email > > Instead of seeing what Andre wrote I saw: > > Cannot open email something about it belonging to /home/ something > > But closing the email and re opening it. I was able to read the > email. I've also seen such Input/Output errors for local folders (POP3) sometimes in 3.28. Opening the message again has always fixed them. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 19:18 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 11:43 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > > Quite. I'd just add that if you use IMAP rather than POP this > > > isn't > > > even an issue. Just saying. > > > > Now im worried. How can you tell if there's any corruption? > > By running into it and seeing / realizing it. > > Well that doesn't tell me much :\ I googled Evolution Mail corruption and Google said I would be seeing errors like: Emptying Trash Fails with ‘Error while expunging folder’ Summary and folder mismatch, even after a sync Error while Expunging folder Evolution: error storing ‘~/.evolution/mail/local/Inbox (mbox)’ So far I haven't seen any errors like that. I did have something weird happen. When reading this exact email on my phone and then going to EVO and downloading and opening the email Instead of seeing what Andre wrote I saw: Cannot open email something about it belonging to /home/ something But closing the email and re opening it. I was able to read the email. - Thank you and take care! -- Chris Main Email address: ch...@cwm030.com (Please send all off topic messages to my main address..Thanks) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 11:43 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > Quite. I'd just add that if you use IMAP rather than POP this isn't > > even an issue. Just saying. > > Now im worried. How can you tell if there's any corruption? By running into it and seeing / realizing it. andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Fri, 2018-07-27 at 11:43 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > Quite. I'd just add that if you use IMAP rather than POP this isn't > > even an issue. Just saying. > > > > poc > > > > > > Now im worried. How can you tell if there's any corruption? How can you tell any file is corrupted? I'm not saying there's any likelihood your mail is corrupted, I'm just making the point that when it's stored on an IMAP server that isn't a consideration, assuming the server is properly managed. People who do this for a living are usually more reliable, that's all. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
> Quite. I'd just add that if you use IMAP rather than POP this isn't > even an issue. Just saying. > > poc > > Now im worried. How can you tell if there's any corruption? Chris -- Thank you and take care! -- Chris Main Email address: ch...@cwm030.com (Please send all off topic messages to my main address..Thanks) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 19:36 +0200, Andre Klapper wrote: > On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 12:07 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > > I just had to completely power off my computer. KDE completly froze. > > > > All I did was open Firefox and went to my banking site and the clock in > > the upper right hand corner stopped at 11:55:00 AM > > > > I finally had to reach up and hit the power button. Not even CTRL ALT > > BACKSPACE was working. > > > > Evo was open during the time, but wasn't downloading any email at the > > time. > > > > Do I have to worry about any corruptions to emails previously > > downloaded and saved away in folders? > > The answer is the same as for any other data, whether that's image > files, browser bookmarks, or whatever: Could be. > > The question is not Evolution-specific so it could be brought up in an > internet forum instead, such as > https://askubuntu.com/questions/487608/does-hard-reboot-damage-my-ubuntu Quite. I'd just add that if you use IMAP rather than POP this isn't even an issue. Just saying. poc ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 19:30 +0200, Milan Crha via evolution-list wrote: > Hi, > as far as I can tell, depending on the account type, Pop 3 > evolution doesn't > overwrite files with messages it already downloaded (it does that for > mbox, but not for Maildir or IMAP), thus the chance to have corrupted > message itself in "good accounts" is minimal. Any corruption in such > accounts mostly depends on the file system itself (caches not flushed > to the disk when the power off happened and so on), from my point of > view. > > If I read that correctly, that means email's already downloaded and put away in folders should be fine. Since EVO doesn't overwrite email's already previously downloaded. I honestly don't know what caused Kubuntu to freeze... All I had open was EVO and Firefox trying to load my banking site to pay my bills. Today's my pay day WHOO HOO but bummer... I get to watch it go right back out the window it just came in < Laughs> Thank you and take care! -- Chris Main Email address: ch...@cwm030.com (Please send all off topic messages to my main address..Thanks) -- Thank you and take care! -- Chris Main Email address: ch...@cwm030.com (Please send all off topic messages to my main address..Thanks) ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 12:07 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > I just had to completely power off my computer. KDE completly froze. > > All I did was open Firefox and went to my banking site and the clock in > the upper right hand corner stopped at 11:55:00 AM > > I finally had to reach up and hit the power button. Not even CTRL ALT > BACKSPACE was working. > > Evo was open during the time, but wasn't downloading any email at the > time. > > Do I have to worry about any corruptions to emails previously > downloaded and saved away in folders? The answer is the same as for any other data, whether that's image files, browser bookmarks, or whatever: Could be. The question is not Evolution-specific so it could be brought up in an internet forum instead, such as https://askubuntu.com/questions/487608/does-hard-reboot-damage-my-ubuntu andre -- Andre Klapper | ak...@gmx.net https://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/ ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
Re: [Evolution] Chance of Corruption?
On Thu, 2018-07-26 at 12:07 -0500, Christopher Marlow wrote: > Do I have to worry about any corruptions to emails previously > downloaded and saved away in folders? Hi, as far as I can tell, depending on the account type, evolution doesn't overwrite files with messages it already downloaded (it does that for mbox, but not for Maildir or IMAP), thus the chance to have corrupted message itself in "good accounts" is minimal. Any corruption in such accounts mostly depends on the file system itself (caches not flushed to the disk when the power off happened and so on), from my point of view. The folder summary (folders.db files) is a different story and it also depends on the actual account type, because with some accounts they can be removed, which will cause their fresh rebuild, but it sometimes can mean losing labels, follow up flags and such, especially with the On This Computer accounts, because those do not have this information stored anywhere else. You can run evolution from a terminal and see whether it claims anything there. It is able to recover from some of the issues on its own, though not all. It will surely tell you if anything goes wrong. Bye, Milan ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe, visit ... https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
