RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-12 Thread Alice Goodman
SO the backup folks are telling me 2 or 3 issues, which I would like to check 
in on with those actually using the product. :)


(1)  Poor to-tape archiving solution.  You have to restore an entire backup 
from tape before you can select and restore a single file.So to restore a PST 
or two for a termed employee, it would require restoring all of a two day job 
before we could restore a 300MB PST.

(2)  If their Exchange environment is virtualized, it would make sense. Ours 
isn't, so Veeam isn't really an option.





They did the testing, not me, so I feel like I am not connecting the dots here 
between their comments and your experience.



Thanks for some input,

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:53 PM
To: exchange
Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam


Tapes work fine with Veeam, just make sure you have a good tape vault with a 
good Windows driver that can control it. We use a Dell ML6000 series which 
believe is a rebranded Adic Scaler. Backup Exec I think used it's own driver 
with the ML and it always had problems. We also backup to Dell direct attached 
storage
On Nov 10, 2014 10:37 PM, Freddy Grande 
freddy.gra...@marsys.com.aumailto:freddy.gra...@marsys.com.au wrote:
What problem did you have with tapes?
We currently use DPM to backup to disk then tapes but I've planned to move over 
to just Veeam BR and it has tape support that has fared well in my testing.

Freddy

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Alice Goodman
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2014 1:26 PM
To: exchange
Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

What are you backing up to?  We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach to 
the physical tape drives.  So we are still on BE and looking for something to 
replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure where else to look.

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
To: exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to have 
very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for their 
data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I 
still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 
ccolli...@gmail.commailto:ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't 
regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration. 
Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a 
virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was just 
released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with exchange that 
I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply again
On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly, but 
on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John 
john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote:
We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your experiences 
with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are the reports 
beneficial for the cost?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.commailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, I do.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.commailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] Veeam

Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?


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Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-12 Thread ccollins9
Well, restoring a PST is a file restore, not an Exchange restore.  You have
to remember how Veeam works.  It takes a snapshot of a VM, then backs up
the entire VM (aka an image-level backup).  So yes, to restore a file from
a guest OS running in a VM, you must first restore that VM before you can
get a single file back.  Now, if you have multiple VMs on a single full
backup on the tape, you can choose to restore ONLY that VM, not ALL VMs
that are on the tape.

Up until 6 months ago we were an all physical Exchange shop too.  We had
several physical Exchange servers in a DAG.  We wanted to move away from
Backup Exec so we stood up a virtual Exchange server with the mailbox role
and added it to the DAG.  Then we had Veeam backup the passive copies of
the DAG databases from that server.  Veeam integrates with VSS, so when the
full backup was done on the virtual Exchange, it truncated the logs on all
Exchange servers.

http://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/70/vsphere/restoring_files_from_tape.html





On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Alice Goodman ali...@mckinstry.com
wrote:

  SO the backup folks are telling me 2 or 3 issues, which I would like to
 check in on with those actually using the product. J



 (1)  Poor to-tape archiving solution.  You have to restore an entire
 backup from tape before you can select and restore a single file.So to
 restore a PST or two for a termed employee, it would require restoring all
 of a two day job before we could restore a 300MB PST.

 (2)  If their Exchange environment is virtualized, it would make sense.
 Ours isn't, so Veeam isn't really an option.





 They did the testing, not me, so I feel like I am not connecting the dots
 here between their comments and your experience.



 Thanks for some input,

 Alice



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *ccollins9
 *Sent:* Monday, November 10, 2014 9:53 PM

 *To:* exchange
 *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Tapes work fine with Veeam, just make sure you have a good tape vault with
 a good Windows driver that can control it. We use a Dell ML6000 series
 which believe is a rebranded Adic Scaler. Backup Exec I think used it's own
 driver with the ML and it always had problems. We also backup to Dell
 direct attached storage

 On Nov 10, 2014 10:37 PM, Freddy Grande freddy.gra...@marsys.com.au
 wrote:

 What problem did you have with tapes?

 We currently use DPM to backup to disk then tapes but I've planned to move
 over to just Veeam BR and it has tape support that has fared well in my
 testing.



 Freddy



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Alice Goodman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 November 2014 1:26 PM
 *To:* exchange
 *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 What are you backing up to?  We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach
 to the physical tape drives.  So we are still on BE and looking for
 something to replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure
 where else to look.



 Alice



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On
 Behalf Of *ccollins9
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
 *To:* exchange
 *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to
 have very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for
 their data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.



 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I
 still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.



 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

 We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't
 regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration.
 Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a
 virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was
 just released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with
 exchange that I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply
 again

 On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

  I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software
 properly, but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.



 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com
 wrote:

  We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your
 experiences with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are
 the reports beneficial for the cost?



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Tran
 *Sent:* Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, I do.



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com

RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-12 Thread Alice Goodman
Thanks.. I will look into it some more. :)

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 10:06 AM
To: exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Well, restoring a PST is a file restore, not an Exchange restore.  You have to 
remember how Veeam works.  It takes a snapshot of a VM, then backs up the 
entire VM (aka an image-level backup).  So yes, to restore a file from a guest 
OS running in a VM, you must first restore that VM before you can get a single 
file back.  Now, if you have multiple VMs on a single full backup on the tape, 
you can choose to restore ONLY that VM, not ALL VMs that are on the tape.

Up until 6 months ago we were an all physical Exchange shop too.  We had 
several physical Exchange servers in a DAG.  We wanted to move away from Backup 
Exec so we stood up a virtual Exchange server with the mailbox role and added 
it to the DAG.  Then we had Veeam backup the passive copies of the DAG 
databases from that server.  Veeam integrates with VSS, so when the full backup 
was done on the virtual Exchange, it truncated the logs on all Exchange servers.

http://helpcenter.veeam.com/backup/70/vsphere/restoring_files_from_tape.html





On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:49 PM, Alice Goodman 
ali...@mckinstry.commailto:ali...@mckinstry.com wrote:
SO the backup folks are telling me 2 or 3 issues, which I would like to check 
in on with those actually using the product. :)


(1)  Poor to-tape archiving solution.  You have to restore an entire backup 
from tape before you can select and restore a single file.So to restore a PST 
or two for a termed employee, it would require restoring all of a two day job 
before we could restore a 300MB PST.

(2)  If their Exchange environment is virtualized, it would make sense. Ours 
isn't, so Veeam isn't really an option.





They did the testing, not me, so I feel like I am not connecting the dots here 
between their comments and your experience.



Thanks for some input,

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:53 PM

To: exchange
Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam


Tapes work fine with Veeam, just make sure you have a good tape vault with a 
good Windows driver that can control it. We use a Dell ML6000 series which 
believe is a rebranded Adic Scaler. Backup Exec I think used it's own driver 
with the ML and it always had problems. We also backup to Dell direct attached 
storage
On Nov 10, 2014 10:37 PM, Freddy Grande 
freddy.gra...@marsys.com.aumailto:freddy.gra...@marsys.com.au wrote:
What problem did you have with tapes?
We currently use DPM to backup to disk then tapes but I've planned to move over 
to just Veeam BR and it has tape support that has fared well in my testing.

Freddy

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Alice Goodman
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2014 1:26 PM
To: exchange
Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

What are you backing up to?  We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach to 
the physical tape drives.  So we are still on BE and looking for something to 
replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure where else to look.

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
To: exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to have 
very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for their 
data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I 
still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 
ccolli...@gmail.commailto:ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't 
regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration. 
Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a 
virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was just 
released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with exchange that 
I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply again
On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly, but 
on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John 
john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen

RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-10 Thread Alice Goodman
What are you backing up to?  We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach to 
the physical tape drives.  So we are still on BE and looking for something to 
replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure where else to look.

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
To: exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to have 
very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for their 
data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I 
still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 
ccolli...@gmail.commailto:ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't 
regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration. 
Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a 
virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was just 
released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with exchange that 
I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply again
On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly, but 
on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John 
john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote:
We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your experiences 
with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are the reports 
beneficial for the cost?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.commailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, I do.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.commailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] Veeam

Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?


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Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-10 Thread steveyens
  Veeam does work with tape drives now I think.   SentfrommyBlackBerry10smartphone.From: Alice GoodmanSent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:27 PMTo: exchangeReply To: exchange@lists.myitforum.comSubject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam







What are you backing up to? We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach to the physical tape drives. So we are still on BE and looking for something to
 replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure where else to look. 


Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
To: exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam


Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice! We are lucky to have very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for their data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there. 




On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

Is 8 already out? I haven't seen that update yet. Need to go find it. I still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.




On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:
We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration. Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a "virtual lab", but they changed and improved
 that in version 8 that was just released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with exchange that I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply again

On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, "Steve Ens" stevey...@gmail.com wrote:




I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly, but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great. 




On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com wrote:





We are planning on looking at this as well. What have been your experiences with the product? Any noticeable overhead on the servers? Are the reports
 beneficial for the cost?



From:
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Veeam





Yes, I do.



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On Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] Veeam



Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?

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RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-10 Thread Freddy Grande
What problem did you have with tapes?
We currently use DPM to backup to disk then tapes but I've planned to move over 
to just Veeam BR and it has tape support that has fared well in my testing.

Freddy

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On 
Behalf Of Alice Goodman
Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2014 1:26 PM
To: exchange
Subject: RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

What are you backing up to?  We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach to 
the physical tape drives.  So we are still on BE and looking for something to 
replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure where else to look.

Alice

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of ccollins9
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
To: exchange
Subject: Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to have 
very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for their 
data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I 
still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 
ccolli...@gmail.commailto:ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't 
regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration. 
Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a 
virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was just 
released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with exchange that 
I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply again
On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens 
stevey...@gmail.commailto:stevey...@gmail.com wrote:
I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly, but 
on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John 
john.sen...@etrade.commailto:john.sen...@etrade.com wrote:
We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your experiences 
with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are the reports 
beneficial for the cost?

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] 
On Behalf Of Jimmy Tran
Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.commailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

Yes, I do.

From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.commailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com 
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David McSpadden
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
To: exchange@lists.myitforum.commailto:exchange@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: [Exchange] Veeam

Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?


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RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-10 Thread ccollins9
Tapes work fine with Veeam, just make sure you have a good tape vault with
a good Windows driver that can control it. We use a Dell ML6000 series
which believe is a rebranded Adic Scaler. Backup Exec I think used it's own
driver with the ML and it always had problems. We also backup to Dell
direct attached storage
On Nov 10, 2014 10:37 PM, Freddy Grande freddy.gra...@marsys.com.au
wrote:

  What problem did you have with tapes?

 We currently use DPM to backup to disk then tapes but I've planned to move
 over to just Veeam BR and it has tape support that has fared well in my
 testing.



 Freddy



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Alice Goodman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, 11 November 2014 1:26 PM
 *To:* exchange
 *Subject:* RE: [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 What are you backing up to?  We still use Tapes and Veeam could not attach
 to the physical tape drives.  So we are still on BE and looking for
 something to replace it with. Commvault is too expensive, and not sure
 where else to look.



 Alice



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On
 Behalf Of *ccollins9
 *Sent:* Sunday, November 09, 2014 5:31 PM
 *To:* exchange
 *Subject:* Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to
 have very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for
 their data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.



 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I
 still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.



 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

 We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't
 regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration.
 Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a
 virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was
 just released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with
 exchange that I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply
 again

 On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

  I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software
 properly, but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.



 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com
 wrote:

  We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your
 experiences with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are
 the reports beneficial for the cost?



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Tran
 *Sent:* Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, I do.



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 *Subject:* [Exchange] Veeam



 Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?



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Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-09 Thread ccollins9
Yes, it's out and we have already upgraded. It's nice!  We are lucky to
have very few physical servers left, and the ones that are essentially for
their data replicated to the VM world and we back it up there.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is 8 already out?  I haven't seen that update yet.  Need to go find it.  I
 still run BE for a few physical machines since Veeam is only virtual.

 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 1:35 PM, ccollins9 ccolli...@gmail.com wrote:

 We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't
 regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration.
 Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a
 virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was
 just released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with
 exchange that I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply
 again
 On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software
 properly, but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com
 wrote:

  We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your
 experiences with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are
 the reports beneficial for the cost?



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Tran
 *Sent:* Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, I do.



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]
 *On Behalf Of *David McSpadden
 *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] Veeam



 Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?



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Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-07 Thread Steve Ens
I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly,
but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com
wrote:

  We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your
 experiences with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are
 the reports beneficial for the cost?



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Tran
 *Sent:* Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, I do.



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On
 Behalf Of *David McSpadden
 *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] Veeam



 Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?



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Re: [Exchange] RE: Veeam

2014-11-07 Thread ccollins9
We replaced Backup Exec with Veeam a few years ago and love it. Haven't
regretted it one bit and we especially like the direct SAN integration.
Restores for AD and SQL were really funky where you needed to bring up a
virtual lab, but they changed and improved that in version 8 that was
just released. Works great for exchange. There was one annoyance with
exchange that I can't remember right now, I'll try to remember and reply
again
On Nov 7, 2014 1:18 PM, Steve Ens stevey...@gmail.com wrote:

 I find that you need a beefy server to actually run the software properly,
 but on the host machines (Hyper V for me) it is great.

 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Senter, John john.sen...@etrade.com
 wrote:

  We are planning on looking at this as well.  What have been your
 experiences with the product?  Any noticeable overhead on the servers?  Are
 the reports beneficial for the cost?



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
 listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Jimmy Tran
 *Sent:* Friday, November 7, 2014 10:06 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] RE: Veeam



 Yes, I do.



 *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [
 mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On
 Behalf Of *David McSpadden
 *Sent:* Friday, November 07, 2014 6:47 AM
 *To:* exchange@lists.myitforum.com
 *Subject:* [Exchange] Veeam



 Anyone using Veeam with Exchange 2010?



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