RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Busby, Jacob

 A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to 
 the list (been
 monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I 
 have always
 wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I 
 would hate to
 insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.

k-thool-oo 

Get thee to H.P.Lovecraft. See also Chaosium Games. (http://www.chaosium.com/)

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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Busby, Jacob

 Hi all.
 
 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit 
 size on SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.

Have you told them of the joys of winzip?

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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Les Bessant

No. Not me at all.

I'm just visualising an alternative version of Ivor the Engine, where
instead of Jones the Steam (there he is, look) we have Jones the
Tentacle.

-Original Message-
From: Hanna, Keith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 September 2002 23:04
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Slight Welsh accent?
Les? Is that you?

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From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 September 2002 02:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You can always initiate a self-punishment session at any time.

And, yes, it's pronounced the way it's spelled. It sounds like a universe
being sucked backwards through a flexi-straw into a tailpipe somehow capable
of saying Jones at the end, with a slight Welsh accent.

(:=

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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:06 PM
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Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


..And I always pronounced it as hoe-neez.  Like cahones without the ca.

Must I wait for direct order before whipping myself with frayed cat5
cabling, or do I start now?

-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


It's pronounced JONES, like cones, but with a J.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Pardon me for the confusion, I meant the last name...


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh
at him.
-- Thomas Szasz




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From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You pronounce it the same way it is spelled.

Kind of sounds like spitting out a watermelon seed. [1]

[1] Begging forgiveness from Kimmie for stealing her line.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:14 PM
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Subject: OT: To Great Cthulhu Jones


A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to the list (been
monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I have always
wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I would hate to
insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.


Thanks...Ray

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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Les Bessant

Heh heh. Trouble? Cthulhu's no trouble at all, unless.

Oh.

You may have a problem.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 September 2002 08:49
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Ray,

Are you trying to destroy the world :-), now Repeat after me 'you do not say
the Cth word' ANYTIME, (calling his name is just like that is asking for
trouble), and I just like to say, I like the way everyone avoided the middle
name as if it didn't exist ;-).

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours


-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 05 September 2002 02:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You can always initiate a self-punishment session at any time.

And, yes, it's pronounced the way it's spelled. It sounds like a universe
being sucked backwards through a flexi-straw into a tailpipe somehow capable
of saying Jones at the end, with a slight Welsh accent.

(:=

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Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:06 PM
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Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


..And I always pronounced it as hoe-neez.  Like cahones without the ca.

Must I wait for direct order before whipping myself with frayed cat5
cabling, or do I start now?

-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


It's pronounced JONES, like cones, but with a J.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Pardon me for the confusion, I meant the last name...


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh
at him.
-- Thomas Szasz




-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You pronounce it the same way it is spelled.

Kind of sounds like spitting out a watermelon seed. [1]

[1] Begging forgiveness from Kimmie for stealing her line.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: To Great Cthulhu Jones


A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to the list (been
monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I have always
wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I would hate to
insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.


Thanks...Ray

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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Les Bessant

Bah!

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Sent: 06 September 2002 00:15
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Did you hear Sheep in the Back ground?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:04 PM
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Slight Welsh accent?
Les? Is that you?

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 September 2002 02:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You can always initiate a self-punishment session at any time.

And, yes, it's pronounced the way it's spelled. It sounds like a
universe being sucked backwards through a flexi-straw into a tailpipe
somehow capable of saying Jones at the end, with a slight Welsh
accent.

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lentz, Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


..And I always pronounced it as hoe-neez.  Like cahones without the
ca.

Must I wait for direct order before whipping myself with frayed cat5
cabling, or do I start now?

-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


It's pronounced JONES, like cones, but with a J.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Pardon me for the confusion, I meant the last name...


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to
laugh at him.
-- Thomas Szasz




-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You pronounce it the same way it is spelled.

Kind of sounds like spitting out a watermelon seed. [1]

[1] Begging forgiveness from Kimmie for stealing her line.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: To Great Cthulhu Jones


A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to the list
(been monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I have
always wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I would
hate to insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to
laugh at him.
-- Thomas Szasz


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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Les Bessant

Aunt Bessie says hi, and when are you going to visit?

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 06 September 2002 03:53
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We're related, yes.

(:=

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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:04 PM
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Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Slight Welsh accent?
Les? Is that you?

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 September 2002 02:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You can always initiate a self-punishment session at any time.

And, yes, it's pronounced the way it's spelled. It sounds like a universe
being sucked backwards through a flexi-straw into a tailpipe somehow capable
of saying Jones at the end, with a slight Welsh accent.

(:=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lentz, Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


..And I always pronounced it as hoe-neez.  Like cahones without the ca.

Must I wait for direct order before whipping myself with frayed cat5
cabling, or do I start now?

-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


It's pronounced JONES, like cones, but with a J.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Pardon me for the confusion, I meant the last name...


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh
at him.
-- Thomas Szasz




-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You pronounce it the same way it is spelled.

Kind of sounds like spitting out a watermelon seed. [1]

[1] Begging forgiveness from Kimmie for stealing her line.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: To Great Cthulhu Jones


A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to the list (been
monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I have always
wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I would hate to
insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh
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-- Thomas Szasz


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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Exchange.ListServe

I thought it was Cuth Lah, as in the thing (cuthlah) that trapped Angel in the 3rd 
Buffy series.

-Original Message-
From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 September 2002 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


 A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to 
 the list (been
 monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I 
 have always
 wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I 
 would hate to
 insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.

k-thool-oo 

Get thee to H.P.Lovecraft. See also Chaosium Games. (http://www.chaosium.com/)

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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Robert Moir

Sacrilege!

Robert Moir
IT Systems Engineer
Luton Sixth Form College
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 From: Exchange.ListServe 
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 Sent: 06 September 2002 11:13
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 Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones
 
 
 I thought it was Cuth Lah, as in the thing (cuthlah) that 
 trapped Angel in the 3rd Buffy series.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 06 September 2002 10:25
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones
 
 
  A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to
  the list (been
  monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I 
  have always
  wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I 
  would hate to
  insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.
 
 k-thool-oo 
 
 Get thee to H.P.Lovecraft. See also Chaosium Games. 
(http://www.chaosium.com/)

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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.

So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?  

What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

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Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
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Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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RE: Must Decide; EX5.5 or EX2K

2002-09-06 Thread Dennis Depp

Eric,

Active Directory is a requirement for Exchange 2000.  If you have no plans to move to 
AD, then I would go with Ex 5.5.

Denny

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A much improved OWA, for one - a steadily decreasing lack of support for another.  
Especially if you're starting from scratch, I recommend Exch2K.  AD will not hurt you, 
and you need not switch to native mode, ever, unless you wish.

David


-Original Message-
From: Eric Fors, II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Must Decide; EX5.5 or EX2K


I've recently come into the need to implement Exchange server for my new employer.  I 
have been blissfully ignorant of all things related to Exchange for nearly a year and 
a half now, but alas that is at an end. 
I've had substantial experience with Exchange with my previous employer, but when I 
was hired on here they already had some other e-mail product and were not interested 
in switching to Exchange.  Now they are and I am needing to catch up.  My experience 
with Exchange goes back to the RC for Exchange 4.0 and runs up to EX55 SP3.  EX2K was 
only just starting to be implemented widely by the more adventurous members of this 
list at the time I changed jobs.

With that lengthy pre-amble, here's my question:  I have seen some of the 
recent posts with scary stories about what to expect when upgrading EX55 to EX2K and 
read some other things about AD implementations gone awry. 
These cause me to wonder if it is worth it to install EX2K?  We already own EX55 and 
our Windows networking is run strictly on a domains model, (no AD anywhere and none 
planned in the near future.)  Our implementation will be rather small, one site, one 
server, about 50 users, and a handful of remote users.  What if any advantages would 
there be to me to implement EX2K over EX55?

Thanx,
Eric Fors, II

BTW - I'm glad to see that the Ed's and Missy K. are still on the list. 
Your posts in the archives have pulled my proverbial bacon out of the fire more than a 
few times.

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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Couch, Nate

We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed for
some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of these got
caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction log files that it
killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a day recovering from that
disaster.  

Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.

Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just tell
them the story above and
imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who caused
him/her a delay in getting 
the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment line
like the guy above did.

Nate


 --
 From: Andrey Fyodorov
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  need ammo
 
 Hi all.
 
 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on SMTP
 connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
 Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
 send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
 SMTP message?
 
 Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP
 messages crashed the servers.
 
 I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
 large messages.
 
 Thanks!
 
   Andrey Fyodorov
 
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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

Sweet shamblin' shoggoths, NO!

(:=

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Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


I thought it was Cuth Lah, as in the thing (cuthlah) that trapped Angel in
the 3rd Buffy series.

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Sent: 06 September 2002 10:25
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


 A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to
 the list (been
 monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I
 have always
 wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I
 would hate to
 insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.

k-thool-oo

Get thee to H.P.Lovecraft. See also Chaosium Games.
(http://www.chaosium.com/)

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RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones

2002-09-06 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

I'm real busy this aeon. Tell her I'll try and be by for the next syzygy.

(:=

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Les Bessant
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Aunt Bessie says hi, and when are you going to visit?

-Original Message-
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 06 September 2002 03:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


We're related, yes.

(:=

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hanna, Keith
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:04 PM
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Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Slight Welsh accent?
Les? Is that you?

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From: Great Cthulhu Jones [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 September 2002 02:55
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You can always initiate a self-punishment session at any time.

And, yes, it's pronounced the way it's spelled. It sounds like a universe
being sucked backwards through a flexi-straw into a tailpipe somehow capable
of saying Jones at the end, with a slight Welsh accent.

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lentz, Wayne
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


..And I always pronounced it as hoe-neez.  Like cahones without the ca.

Must I wait for direct order before whipping myself with frayed cat5
cabling, or do I start now?

-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


It's pronounced JONES, like cones, but with a J.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:29 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


Pardon me for the confusion, I meant the last name...


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
When a person can no longer laugh at himself, it is time for others to laugh
at him.
-- Thomas Szasz




-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: To Great Cthulhu Jones


You pronounce it the same way it is spelled.

Kind of sounds like spitting out a watermelon seed. [1]

[1] Begging forgiveness from Kimmie for stealing her line.

-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: OT: To Great Cthulhu Jones


A humble question to the Great one. I am relatively new to the list (been
monitoring and occasionally posting for about 2 years) and I have always
wondered, what is the correct pronunciation of your name. I would hate to
insult your greatness by mispronouncing it when paying homage.


Thanks...Ray

Quote of the day:
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at him.
-- Thomas Szasz


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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)

Yes but if you don't cost it out first, it will still be using it when
you remove it (i.e. if you have high volume, this can lead to
stranded/lost mail).

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:28 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default
cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?


What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

Another alternative: educate people about FTP. You know, the *other*
Transfer Protocol. SMTP is for simple messages. FTP is for files.

There ya go. Tell 'em CJ sent ya.

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed for
some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of these got
caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction log files that it
killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a day recovering from that
disaster.

Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.

Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just tell
them the story above and
imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who caused
him/her a delay in getting
the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment line
like the guy above did.

Nate


 --
 From: Andrey Fyodorov
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  need ammo

 Hi all.

 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on SMTP
 connectors in our shared Exchange environment.

 Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
 send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
 SMTP message?

 Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP
 messages crashed the servers.

 I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
 large messages.

 Thanks!

   Andrey Fyodorov

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RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge

2002-09-06 Thread Great Cthulhu Jones

Still, a good laugh, thinking of all those lawyers going ape because they
can't read the PST which has the files they desperately need for the
{tobacco, gun safety, SUV tire, asbestos, silicone implant, fen-phen, etc.}
case they're trying.

Ooooh! I think I found a new punishment for legal professionals! Sweet! I
can always use fresh ideas for those guys.

(:=

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge


Just for mailing to lawyers then they will copy to hard drive. Yes I know
about it is written to open.
- Original Message -
From: Great Cthulhu Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:10 PM
Subject: RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge


 Ho ho ho. PST on a CD.

 Good luck reading *that*!

 (:=

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:02 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge


 Not a problem. We figured most of the monthly runs will be under that. In
 fact will make them under 650 so they will fit on a CD. Still can't
believe
 I missed it in the manual. My only other possible problem is the older
 version doesn't have that feature. If not will have to load up 2000
 workstation for the new Exmerge. The new one does not run on NT4.0

 - Original Message -
 From: Great Cthulhu Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 9:58 PM
 Subject: RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge


  Good news is, if you get a PST over 2GB in size, you only have to
truncate
  the file size to read what's in it!
 
  (:=
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:09 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Re: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
  Thanks Andrey. I found it. I could I have missed it. Anyhow it looks
like
 I
  will have experiment with that setting. I am guessing I may have to do
 this
  in two runs. One to get the user names that contain the subject matter
and
  then run it again with the all mailboxes being put into one PST once the
  ones are identified in the first run.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 3:25 PM
  Subject: RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
  Yes this is possible with ExMerge. ExMErge documentation as well as the
  default ExMerge.ini file show such a configuration.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:43 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
 
  Fellow Admins. Is there away to run exmerge and put all of the selected
  mailboxes messages into a single PST. If not, is there a tool out there
 that
  will let you do that after you run Exmerge. I have looked hard and
 couldn't
  find anything in the latest Exmerge version's document.
 
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Andy David

What was the size limit on the individual mailboxes?


-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed for
some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of these got
caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction log files that it
killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a day recovering from that
disaster.  

Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.

Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just tell
them the story above and
imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who caused
him/her a delay in getting 
the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment line
like the guy above did.

Nate


 --
 From: Andrey Fyodorov
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  need ammo
 
 Hi all.
 
 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on SMTP
 connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
 Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
 send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
 SMTP message?
 
 Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP
 messages crashed the servers.
 
 I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
 large messages.
 
 Thanks!
 
   Andrey Fyodorov
 
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Couch, Nate

Prior to this incident it was 200MB.  After the incident we set the
following

IW - 40MB
PS - 50MB
PSR - 200MB

Note: We had informed the customer of these issues prior to the incident
with their server.  It was only after the crash that they believed us.


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 From: Andy David
 Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 6, 2002 07:15
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: need ammo
 
 What was the size limit on the individual mailboxes?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed for
 some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of these got
 caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction log files that
 it
 killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a day recovering from
 that
 disaster.  
 
 Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.
 
 Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just
 tell
 them the story above and
 imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who
 caused
 him/her a delay in getting 
 the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment line
 like the guy above did.
 
 Nate
 
 
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  From:   Andrey Fyodorov
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:need ammo
  
  Hi all.
  
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on
 SMTP
  connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
  
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
  send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
  SMTP message?
  
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP
  messages crashed the servers.
  
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
  large messages.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Andrey Fyodorov
  
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delivery receipt

2002-09-06 Thread Cabezas, Manuel

Exchange 2000 Server SP3 Native Mode
Windows 2000 Server SP3

When an user sends a message with the Request a delivery receipt for
all messages I send flag activated, he receives a delivery receipt
confirmation with my name (I'm the administrator of Exchange).
Is it possible to change it, to, for example, service notification or
similar?
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RE: delivery receipt

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

I know you can change this in exchange 5.5 under Internet mail service
properties but you would probably have to make a mailbox with the desired
diplay name.

RGDS
Rich

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From: Cabezas, Manuel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: delivery receipt


Exchange 2000 Server SP3 Native Mode
Windows 2000 Server SP3

When an user sends a message with the Request a delivery receipt for
all messages I send flag activated, he receives a delivery receipt
confirmation with my name (I'm the administrator of Exchange).
Is it possible to change it, to, for example, service notification or
similar?
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RE: E2K: OUTLOOK Can't open this item SP3 bug?

2002-09-06 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

try to jiggle it by moving the user's mailbox from one information store to another or 
from one server to another

also try exporting the mailbox to a PST file with Outlook, deleting the mailbox, then 
importing back

try same with ExMerge


Andrey Fyodorov
founder of the Scientific Jiggle Method  :)
Applied Jiggle Technologies  :)

-Original Message-
From: MS Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 6:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K: OUTLOOK Can't open this item SP3 bug?



OS: Win2K, SP2, IIS Roll-up, (+most Critical Windows Update published hotfixes)
E2K: Native, SP3, Trend 6.0 Scanmail
Single Native Domain, Single Exchange Server, 1 SG, 4 Mailbox DBs, 1 PF DB

Hello,

Not sure if this is a new bug introduced with E2K SP3, or just my bad luck with E2K.

Some users are unable to open/delete/move/reply/forward... some Messages with OUTLOOK 
(various versions) or E2K OWA.  The error they get in OUTLOOK is:

Can't open this item

On the Server side an error is logged in the App log:

===
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeIS
Event Category: Content Engine 
Event ID:   12002
Date:   9/4/2002
Time:   1:38:05 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   EXCHANGE
Description:
Error 8004011B-8000 occurred while processing message  from 'SearchStorage.com'. 

===

Combing through the App log it looks like we've got at least 9 different Messages with 
this problem.

I CAN access them with an IMAP client, view it, and delete it.  It is then deleted on 
the Server side mailbox.

Since this problem started I have run ISINTEG against all databases, and even 
compacted the databases  (ya, ya, I know, but it is documented a compact will get rid 
of various DB problems Q314917, Q195856, and I had an Open maintenance window).  This 
did not get rid of the problem, and a user has gotten a new message since then with 
this problem.

The problem messages I have looked at are of type Content-Type: 
multipart/alternative and contain both a text/plain and text/html versions of the 
email.  Guessing a content conversion problem with MAPI and SP3 ... but haven't 
heard anyone else complain of something similar.

I have looked at Q232323 and Q296598, but they didn't seem to apply.

Anyone else seeing this with SP3?

Thanks,
Brent

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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Andrey Fyodorov

My guess would be forwarding. Another evil feature that many of my customers insist on 
having.

Then when the server crawls they all complain and blame me, my company, Exchange, 
Microsoft, Bill Gates, etc.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


What caused the mail loop?


-Original Message-
From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 8:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet
inbound/Outbound messages.
In my opinion, too many users think of email systems as being some panacean
highway for any kind of data transmission no matter the threat or
inconvenience to others.  I have had nitwits send out large messages which
got caught in a nasty mail loop.  There is no easy answer but I recommend
that you approach this from a policy point of view.

Our policy here is 5MB. 
No ifs or butts (pun intended).

D.


-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: need ammo


Hi all.

I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on SMTP
connectors in our shared Exchange environment.

Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
SMTP message?

Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP messages
crashed the servers.

I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
large messages.

Thanks!

Andrey Fyodorov

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New Domain Transition

2002-09-06 Thread wpawlikowski

Hello.  Recently I had to add another email domain to my exchange in =
order
to receive email from our new domain that reflects our recent name =
change.
I have the Recipient policy set up to recie4ve email from both the new =
and
old domains.  What I would like to know is if there is a way I can have
exchange auto reply to any email sent to the old domain with a message
stating that we have changed our email etc

Thanks

Will

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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread John Steniger

You'll find that with large messages of that size, you may be fielding calls
from remote users who can't understand why, when they dial in, their email
takes a couple hours to download.  Explaining to them that they have several
large attachments waiting for them usually sufficiently frustrates them into
seeing your point of view (provided you only provide dial-up services for
remote users).

Its all a matter of user training.  Typical users don't have any clue that
there's a better way to transfer files, not only externally, but internally.
Once you explain FTP, or even file shares, to them, it usually helps the
problem.  

If you don't happen to be using Enterprise version, and you have a bunch of
packrats, you may find that with larger attachment sizes, you'll fill up
your IS rather quickly - happened to us with only a couple hundred users.
Convincing people not to send email is much easier than convicing them to
delete email already sent.  

John J. Steniger
Network and Security Manager
Familymeds, Inc.
Phone: 860-676-1222 X633
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.familymeds.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: need ammo
 
 
 Hi all.
 
 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit 
 size on SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
 Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when 
 people try to send too many messages that are too large? What 
 is a reasonable size for SMTP message?
 
 Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times 
 large SMTP messages crashed the servers.
 
 I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good 
 idea to send large messages.
 
 Thanks!
 
   Andrey Fyodorov
 
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Site Connector

2002-09-06 Thread Harris, Dot

I'm replacing one of my Exchange 5.5 smtp servers in the next couple of
weeks.  This server is also running a Site Connector which is used by our
Tokyo branch.  We will be replacing it with an Windows 2000 box runninng
Exchange 5.5.  Is there any documentation or suggestions on the best way to
do this?

Thanks.

Dot Harris
William Blair  Company
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Couch, Nate

I totally agree here.  We told them sneding large files via FTP would be far
better.



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 From: Great Cthulhu Jones
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Friday, September 6, 2002 07:11
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: need ammo
 
 Another alternative: educate people about FTP. You know, the *other*
 Transfer Protocol. SMTP is for simple messages. FTP is for files.
 
 There ya go. Tell 'em CJ sent ya.
 
 (:=
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed for
 some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of these got
 caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction log files that
 it
 killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a day recovering from
 that
 disaster.
 
 Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.
 
 Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just
 tell
 them the story above and
 imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who
 caused
 him/her a delay in getting
 the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment line
 like the guy above did.
 
 Nate
 
 
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  From:   Andrey Fyodorov
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:need ammo
 
  Hi all.
 
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on
 SMTP
  connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
  send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
  SMTP message?
 
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP
  messages crashed the servers.
 
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
  large messages.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Andrey Fyodorov
 
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Martin Blackstone

Customer
::blank stare::
/Customer

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


I totally agree here.  We told them sneding large files via FTP would be far
better.



 --
 From: Great Cthulhu Jones
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Friday, September 6, 2002 07:11
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: need ammo
 
 Another alternative: educate people about FTP. You know, the *other* 
 Transfer Protocol. SMTP is for simple messages. FTP is for files.
 
 There ya go. Tell 'em CJ sent ya.
 
 (:=
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed 
 for some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of 
 these got caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction 
 log files that it killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a 
 day recovering from that
 disaster.
 
 Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.
 
 Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just 
 tell them the story above and
 imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who
 caused
 him/her a delay in getting
 the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment line
 like the guy above did.
 
 Nate
 
 
  --
  From:   Andrey Fyodorov
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:need ammo
 
  Hi all.
 
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on
 SMTP
  connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people 
  try to send too many messages that are too large? What is a 
  reasonable size for SMTP message?
 
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP 
  messages crashed the servers.
 
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to 
  send large messages.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Andrey Fyodorov
 
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Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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IMC Logging Levels?

2002-09-06 Thread Joe Rojas

Hi All,

I am trying to find some kind of documentation on the different
levels of logging in the 'diagnostics logging' tab of the IMC (Exchange
5.5). I am trying to find out what is logged at the different levels for all
the categories. (Initialization/Termination, Addressing, Message Transfer,
SMTP Interface Events, Internal Processing, SMTP Protocol Log, and Message
Archival)

Thanks in advance!

Joe Rojas
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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Will Pawlikowski



Do your have the Don't Delete Until Backup option selected in the information store?

Will
 -Original Message-
From:   Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Exchange Delete

Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.

Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space
(white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space available
for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

no it is not selected, if i select this will it delete all the space that i
previous deleted after the backup tonight.

-Original Message-
From: Will Pawlikowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete




Do your have the Don't Delete Until Backup option selected in the
information store?

Will
 -Original Message-
From:   Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Exchange Delete

Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Mellott, Bill

My opinion would be it depends

IF it is say a graphics design firm...then 10MB could likely not be big
enough...or maybe and engineering design firm use Acad..etc...large files

I do not know that there is a hard fast rule on this..it depends on your
environment, bandwidth connections etc... limits can be good and can kind'a
help as a safety net..kind'a but then they can be a big pain too

I do not believe it should crash your server...maybe slow down the
transfer of mail thru the IMC in exch...due to all the processing..but not
crashIt could appear as crashing maybe depending on your
hardware...bandwidth..etc...

I set mine at 15mb...but then I do not have graphic designers to deal with
just sales people sending PPT, PDF, XLS...large at times say close on some
XLS to 10MBand often the sales people will send a 4MB PPT to like 30 to
60 people...but the server just run's and sends them as it can...no
crashing..
Ive also got a full T1 so generally bandwidth is not an issue..Exch55sp4,
NT4sp6a..Pent 3 600..768MB ram...

the customer is always right.well kind'a.

If they want a higher limits and need it then likely they should get it...if
it's crashing (truely) your server...I would say something is amiss it your
server,config's or something and it should be fixed/looked at

2 cents

bill

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: need ammo


Hi all.

I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on SMTP
connectors in our shared Exchange environment.

Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people try to
send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable size for
SMTP message?

Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP messages
crashed the servers.

I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to send
large messages.

Thanks!

Andrey Fyodorov

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

Ronald,

Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
potential problems that can occur during the process.

Thanks
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space
(white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space available
for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread David Lloyd

What about retension? I thought when u delete mail,  it will still remain
according to your
settings. Here for instance we have 7 days,  so we can retrieve deleted
items.

 --
 From: Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 06 September 2002 14:35
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Exchange Delete
 
 Ronald,
 
   Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
 potential problems that can occur during the process.
 
 Thanks
 Rich
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
 
 
 Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
 space
 (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
 space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
 available
 for use.  
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Exchange Delete
 
 
 Hello,
 
   I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
 out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
 The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until
 it
 is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
 some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
 partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
 inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone
 know
 how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  
 
 Thanks 
 Rich
 
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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

no we dont use retension.

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: David Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


What about retension? I thought when u delete mail,  it will still remain
according to your
settings. Here for instance we have 7 days,  so we can retrieve deleted
items.

 --
 From: Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 06 September 2002 14:35
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Exchange Delete
 
 Ronald,
 
   Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
 potential problems that can occur during the process.
 
 Thanks
 Rich
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
 
 
 Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
 space
 (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
 space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
 available
 for use.  
 
 Ron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Exchange Delete
 
 
 Hello,
 
   I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
 out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
 The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until
 it
 is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
 some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
 partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
 inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone
 know
 how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  
 
 Thanks 
 Rich
 
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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread David Lloyd

Thus, if u check your server properties,  highlight server,  then expand to
the private store,
then select properties,  your retension time should be shown.

David 



 What about retension? I thought when u delete mail,  it will still remain
 according to your
 settings. Here for instance we have 7 days,  so we can retrieve deleted
 items.
 
  --
  From:   Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   06 September 2002 14:35
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Exchange Delete
  
  Ronald,
  
  Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
  potential problems that can occur during the process.
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
  space
  (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
  space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
  available
  for use.  
  
  Ron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Hello,
  
  I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
  out of room on the second partition where my information store is
 located.
  The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left
 until
  it
  is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
  some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
  partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
  inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone
  know
  how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  
  
  Thanks 
  Rich
  
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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread David Lloyd

Then guess a defrag would be your way forward,  or a move of one of the
stores somewhere else.

Unless u wait until an online defrag runs...to see if that makes any
kind of impact.


David


 --
 From: Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 06 September 2002 14:39
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Exchange Delete
 
 no we dont use retension.
 
 Thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
 
 
 What about retension? I thought when u delete mail,  it will still remain
 according to your
 settings. Here for instance we have 7 days,  so we can retrieve deleted
 items.
 
  --
  From:   Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   06 September 2002 14:35
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Exchange Delete
  
  Ronald,
  
  Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
  potential problems that can occur during the process.
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
  space
  (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
  space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
  available
  for use.  
  
  Ron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Hello,
  
  I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
  out of room on the second partition where my information store is
 located.
  The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left
 until
  it
  is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
  some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
  partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
  inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone
  know
  how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  
  
  Thanks 
  Rich
  
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)

Heh.  Sneding.

I would also suggest considering setting the send limit (either global
in ex2k or mailbox level ex 5.5) to whatever your IMC limit is. 

We had some [user] try to send a 285MB attachment, and it bounced around
the MTA's for a while before I found it and deleted it.

We have a 4MB limit on the IMC, and most recently put a 4MB limit
*everywhere* (MTA, 5.5 UA, 2k Global).  There really haven't been very
many complaints.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:15 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: need ammo
Subject: RE: need ammo


Customer
::blank stare::
/Customer

-Original Message-
From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


I totally agree here.  We told them sneding large files via FTP would be
far
better.



 --
 From: Great Cthulhu Jones
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Friday, September 6, 2002 07:11
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: need ammo
 
 Another alternative: educate people about FTP. You know, the *other* 
 Transfer Protocol. SMTP is for simple messages. FTP is for files.
 
 There ya go. Tell 'em CJ sent ya.
 
 (:=
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 6:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 We have one customer with a 100MB SMTP limit which they say needed 
 for some large CAD engineering drawings they were sending.  One of 
 these got caught in an email loop and generated so many transaction 
 log files that it killed the server.  We spent the good portion of a 
 day recovering from that
 disaster.
 
 Most of our customers have reasonable limits 10-15MB.
 
 Have them use Winzip.  It will save them time and you headaches.  Just

 tell them the story above and
 imagine what their CEO would say if he/she finds out it was them who
 caused
 him/her a delay in getting
 the CEO's email sent.  They might find themselves on the unemployment
line
 like the guy above did.
 
 Nate
 
 
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  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   Thursday, September 5, 2002 16:17
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:need ammo
 
  Hi all.
 
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit size on
 SMTP
  connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when people 
  try to send too many messages that are too large? What is a 
  reasonable size for SMTP message?
 
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP 
  messages crashed the servers.
 
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to 
  send large messages.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Andrey Fyodorov
 
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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.

Rich, I've done quite a few under ex.5.5.  -  The only problem is time.
Depending on how fast your server and network are will tell how long it will
take.  12 gig database will run close to 2 gig per hr.  Also, you'd need
temp
space of atleast 12 gig during the process as it copies and rewrites the
info stor.  Under Diaster Recovery Q article it will walk you thru using the
offline defrag tool under eseutil  isinteg.  

The online defrag that generally runs every evening will only get back space
from
your deleted items folders after they expire.  In my case I have it set to
30 days before removing them from the server.

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Ronald,

Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
potential problems that can occur during the process.

Thanks
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space
(white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space available
for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards

Keep in mind that when you look in the Event Viewer, if the online defrag
does not show an enormous amount of space regained (10GB+), I would not even
do the offline defrag.  Most of the time EV comes back with only MB of space
recoverable.  I think it is only feasible when you can reclaim a LARGE
amount of disk space.  The time and resources have to be taken into account
also.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: David Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Then guess a defrag would be your way forward,  or a move of one of the
stores somewhere else.

Unless u wait until an online defrag runs...to see if that makes any
kind of impact.


David


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 From: Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: 06 September 2002 14:39
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Exchange Delete
 
 no we dont use retension.
 
 Thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
 
 
 What about retension? I thought when u delete mail,  it will still 
 remain according to your settings. Here for instance we have 7 days,  
 so we can retrieve deleted items.
 
  --
  From:   Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   06 September 2002 14:35
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Exchange Delete
  
  Ronald,
  
  Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any 
  potential problems that can occur during the process.
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with 
  blank space (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only 
  way to recoup the space is to run an offline defrag, this will make 
  the white space available
  for use.  
  
  Ron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Hello,
  
  I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running 
  out of room on the second partition where my information store is
 located.
  The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left
 until
  it
  is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I 
  get some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the 
  second partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 
  200,000 kb in a inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in 
  size.  Does anyone know how exchange uses space, or is there any 
  documentation about this.
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards

You need at least 110% the size of your priv.edb file in order to do the
offline defrag.  One good (bad?) thing is you can redirect it to another
server/workstation if you want to through the switches.  I have done many
with 5.5 and our timeframe is the Servers go offline at 8:00 p.m. EST (to
give the West time to finish business), and are not available until 6:00
a.m., Monday morning.  Believe me, sometimes you need all that time.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Rich, I've done quite a few under ex.5.5.  -  The only problem is time.
Depending on how fast your server and network are will tell how long it will
take.  12 gig database will run close to 2 gig per hr.  Also, you'd need
temp space of atleast 12 gig during the process as it copies and rewrites
the info stor.  Under Diaster Recovery Q article it will walk you thru using
the offline defrag tool under eseutil  isinteg.  

The online defrag that generally runs every evening will only get back space
from your deleted items folders after they expire.  In my case I have it set
to 30 days before removing them from the server.

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Ronald,

Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
potential problems that can occur during the process.

Thanks
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup
the space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
available for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge

2002-09-06 Thread Busby, Jacob

 Fellow Admins. Is there away to run exmerge and put all of 
 the selected
 mailboxes messages into a single PST. If not, is there a tool 
 out there that
 will let you do that after you run Exmerge. I have looked 
 hard and couldn't
 find anything in the latest Exmerge version's document.

I'd advise against this course of action. .pst files have an upper limit of 2Gb and 
tend to be less efficient and stable than Exchange.

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

Oucch, 
Thanks for the info guys, by the way the online backup is freeing up about
72mb 2-3 times a day.

RGDS
Rich




-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


You need at least 110% the size of your priv.edb file in order to do the
offline defrag.  One good (bad?) thing is you can redirect it to another
server/workstation if you want to through the switches.  I have done many
with 5.5 and our timeframe is the Servers go offline at 8:00 p.m. EST (to
give the West time to finish business), and are not available until 6:00
a.m., Monday morning.  Believe me, sometimes you need all that time.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Rich, I've done quite a few under ex.5.5.  -  The only problem is time.
Depending on how fast your server and network are will tell how long it will
take.  12 gig database will run close to 2 gig per hr.  Also, you'd need
temp space of atleast 12 gig during the process as it copies and rewrites
the info stor.  Under Diaster Recovery Q article it will walk you thru using
the offline defrag tool under eseutil  isinteg.  

The online defrag that generally runs every evening will only get back space
from your deleted items folders after they expire.  In my case I have it set
to 30 days before removing them from the server.

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Ronald,

Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
potential problems that can occur during the process.

Thanks
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup
the space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
available for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards

Sorry!  Meant to say 8:00 p.m. EST, Friday night through 6:00 a.m. EST,
Monday morning.  If you meant your online defrag is only showing 72MB that
will be freed, then FAI.  It would take too much time and resources to do
it.

Just my .02¢

Geoff...

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Oucch, 
Thanks for the info guys, by the way the online backup is freeing up about
72mb 2-3 times a day.

RGDS
Rich




-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


You need at least 110% the size of your priv.edb file in order to do the
offline defrag.  One good (bad?) thing is you can redirect it to another
server/workstation if you want to through the switches.  I have done many
with 5.5 and our timeframe is the Servers go offline at 8:00 p.m. EST (to
give the West time to finish business), and are not available until 6:00
a.m., Monday morning.  Believe me, sometimes you need all that time.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Rich, I've done quite a few under ex.5.5.  -  The only problem is time.
Depending on how fast your server and network are will tell how long it will
take.  12 gig database will run close to 2 gig per hr.  Also, you'd need
temp space of atleast 12 gig during the process as it copies and rewrites
the info stor.  Under Diaster Recovery Q article it will walk you thru using
the offline defrag tool under eseutil  isinteg.  

The online defrag that generally runs every evening will only get back space
from your deleted items folders after they expire.  In my case I have it set
to 30 days before removing them from the server.

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Ronald,

Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
potential problems that can occur during the process.

Thanks
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup
the space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
available for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: Site Connector

2002-09-06 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)

If you have others available, choose a different server (re-home it).

-Original Message-
From: Harris, Dot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:01 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Site Connector
Subject: Site Connector


I'm replacing one of my Exchange 5.5 smtp servers in the next couple of
weeks.  This server is also running a Site Connector which is used by
our
Tokyo branch.  We will be replacing it with an Windows 2000 box runninng
Exchange 5.5.  Is there any documentation or suggestions on the best way
to
do this?

Thanks.

Dot Harris
William Blair  Company
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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.

What if I just remove the SMTP Address Space, recalculate routing on the
ex5.5 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Yes but if you don't cost it out first, it will still be using it when
you remove it (i.e. if you have high volume, this can lead to
stranded/lost mail).

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:28 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default
cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?


What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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filtering e-mail

2002-09-06 Thread Tony Nguyen

Exchange5.5
WinNT4 sp6
Inoculate IT

I know this have been posted before but can someone recommend what software
I can use to filter Spam e-mail. How does other company filter e-mail base
on the header, body text, or words.

Thank
Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)

If you only have 72MB free, then that is all you will gain by an offline defrag.

1. Increase the size of the drive it's on.  
2. Decrease the amount of mail your users have (lower mailbox limits). 
3. Install a second server and split your users in half.

-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:12 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Exchange Delete
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Sorry!  Meant to say 8:00 p.m. EST, Friday night through 6:00 a.m. EST,
Monday morning.  If you meant your online defrag is only showing 72MB that
will be freed, then FAI.  It would take too much time and resources to do
it.

Just my .02¢

Geoff...

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Oucch, 
Thanks for the info guys, by the way the online backup is freeing up about
72mb 2-3 times a day.

RGDS
Rich




-Original Message-
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


You need at least 110% the size of your priv.edb file in order to do the
offline defrag.  One good (bad?) thing is you can redirect it to another
server/workstation if you want to through the switches.  I have done many
with 5.5 and our timeframe is the Servers go offline at 8:00 p.m. EST (to
give the West time to finish business), and are not available until 6:00
a.m., Monday morning.  Believe me, sometimes you need all that time.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Rich, I've done quite a few under ex.5.5.  -  The only problem is time.
Depending on how fast your server and network are will tell how long it will
take.  12 gig database will run close to 2 gig per hr.  Also, you'd need
temp space of atleast 12 gig during the process as it copies and rewrites
the info stor.  Under Diaster Recovery Q article it will walk you thru using
the offline defrag tool under eseutil  isinteg.  

The online defrag that generally runs every evening will only get back space
from your deleted items folders after they expire.  In my case I have it set
to 30 days before removing them from the server.

Ron


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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Ronald,

Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there any
potential problems that can occur during the process.

Thanks
Rich

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space (white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup
the space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space
available for use.  

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  

Thanks 
Rich

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Re: filtering e-mail

2002-09-06 Thread Missy Koslosky

Before?  It's posted daily.
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: filtering e-mail


Exchange5.5
WinNT4 sp6
Inoculate IT

I know this have been posted before but can someone recommend what software
I can use to filter Spam e-mail. How does other company filter e-mail base
on the header, body text, or words.

Thank
Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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Re: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Missy Koslosky

The white space will be available after an online defrag is run, it simply
won't show up as space on the disk itself.
- Original Message -
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
Subject: RE: Exchange Delete


Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with blank
space
(white space) throughout the Information Store.  Only way to recoup the
space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the white space available
for use.

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Delete


Hello,

I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting close to running
out of room on the second partition where my information store is located.
The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 2gig left until it
is all used up.  My information store is 8.5 gigs and I figured if I get
some people to delete email that it would reduce the size on the second
partition.  The weird thing is that when I delete about 200,000 kb in a
inbox I go back to the partition I see no change in size.  Does anyone know
how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: filtering e-mail

2002-09-06 Thread Mellott, Bill

Actually at this point a form could be made for this answer.

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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: filtering e-mail


Before?  It's posted daily.
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From: Tony Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: filtering e-mail


Exchange5.5
WinNT4 sp6
Inoculate IT

I know this have been posted before but can someone recommend what software
I can use to filter Spam e-mail. How does other company filter e-mail base
on the header, body text, or words.

Thank
Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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Re: filtering e-mail

2002-09-06 Thread Missy Koslosky

I think that the FAQ might just cover this one...  :)
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:48 AM
Subject: RE: filtering e-mail


Actually at this point a form could be made for this answer.

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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: filtering e-mail


Before?  It's posted daily.
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From: Tony Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: filtering e-mail


Exchange5.5
WinNT4 sp6
Inoculate IT

I know this have been posted before but can someone recommend what software
I can use to filter Spam e-mail. How does other company filter e-mail base
on the header, body text, or words.

Thank
Tony Nguyen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])


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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Pillai, Raj

Are there any Q articles(other than Q316886) pertaining to this some one can
point me to?
I am just about ready to route my internet mail through the exchange 2000
server.

Thanks and happy Friday.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


What if I just remove the SMTP Address Space, recalculate routing on the
ex5.5 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Yes but if you don't cost it out first, it will still be using it when
you remove it (i.e. if you have high volume, this can lead to
stranded/lost mail).

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:28 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default
cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?


What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Pennell, Ronald B.

Last modified version is 5/31/2002

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Are there any Q articles(other than Q316886) pertaining to this some one can
point me to?
I am just about ready to route my internet mail through the exchange 2000
server.

Thanks and happy Friday.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


What if I just remove the SMTP Address Space, recalculate routing on the
ex5.5 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Yes but if you don't cost it out first, it will still be using it when
you remove it (i.e. if you have high volume, this can lead to
stranded/lost mail).

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:28 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default
cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?


What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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Public Folders

2002-09-06 Thread Busby, Jacob

Here's a nasty one. Employing E2K turns on public folders. We had deliberately 
disallowed these under E5.5 and have just found that E2K re-allows them. Investigating 
further we found that the EVERYBODY group had been allowed to provide Create Public 
Folder and the box was greyed out. Anybody know a good way off keeping Public Folder 
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RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

That's what I thought might be the driving force... One issue related to
this strategy is that if messages were sent via Bcc or to a DL it might not
be possible to determine from a single PST file which mailbox contained the
data in question. 

I recently spent a boatload of time exploring similar restore scenarios...
One relatively powerful and inexpensive[1] option to consider is using
kvault for this task.

[1] Inexpensive compared to the labor and time costs I estimated for the
methodology you are currently employing. It also positions you well for
future discovery.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:51 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
 Well I am doing a very large restore of emails that go back 
 two years. I extracted all the messages that have certain 
 words in the subject. Easy enough. But the lawyers would like 
 to know if we could put all the extracted messages in one pst 
 for each monthly restore. There are about 7 servers and with 
 two years of data that is alot of PST's.  What they would 
 want is one PST for each monthly restore for each server. 
 Does that make sense. I told them it may not be possible. So 
 there you have it. They either open dozens of PST's that have 
 the subject data or one PST for each month.
 
 What a mess but it beats unemployment. Anyhow I am using 
 Backup Exec and Tivoli and most any combo of Exchange 5.5 
 running on 2000 or NT4.0 you can think of. Plus we are 
 installing new servers and migrating to E2K. One thing is I 
 will cringe if anybody asks me if I ever did any disaster 
 recovery work.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:57 AM
 Subject: RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
  No, there's an option to do the opposite though. Given the 
 limits of 
  PST files re: size and number of messages per folder the number of 
  scenarios where that'd be useful seem somewhat limited. 
 What is it you 
  are trying to achieve?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:43 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
  
  
  
   Fellow Admins. Is there away to run exmerge and put all of the 
   selected mailboxes messages into a single PST. If not, is there a 
   tool out there that will let you do that after you run Exmerge. I 
   have looked hard and couldn't find anything in the latest Exmerge 
   version's document.
  
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RE: Public Folders

2002-09-06 Thread Christopher Hummert

Why?

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Busby, Jacob
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Public Folders


Here's a nasty one. Employing E2K turns on public folders. We had
deliberately disallowed these under E5.5 and have just found that E2K
re-allows them. Investigating further we found that the EVERYBODY group
had been allowed to provide Create Public Folder and the box was greyed
out. Anybody know a good way off keeping Public Folder permanently
locked down (and hence under our control, not the users)

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Re: Public Folders

2002-09-06 Thread Neil Hobson

You mean like disabling the creation of top-level public folders?

Look at:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q256131

Neil

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From: Busby, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:33 PM
Subject: Public Folders


Here's a nasty one. Employing E2K turns on public folders. We had
deliberately disallowed these under E5.5 and have just found that E2K
re-allows them. Investigating further we found that the EVERYBODY group had
been allowed to provide Create Public Folder and the box was greyed out.
Anybody know a good way off keeping Public Folder permanently locked down
(and hence under our control, not the users)

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Re: Public Folders

2002-09-06 Thread Missy Koslosky

You need to lock down top-level PF creation.  Q256131
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From: Busby, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:33 AM
Subject: Public Folders


Here's a nasty one. Employing E2K turns on public folders. We had
deliberately disallowed these under E5.5 and have just found that E2K
re-allows them. Investigating further we found that the EVERYBODY group had
been allowed to provide Create Public Folder and the box was greyed out.
Anybody know a good way off keeping Public Folder permanently locked down
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

A quick check of 10 or so companies ESMTP compliant mail servers didn't bear
out the assertion that most companies have a limit of 5MB on the IMS. Has
someone actually done a more comprehensive survey of IMS limits or was the
5MB number an off the cuff statistic?

 -Original Message-
 From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet 
 inbound/Outbound messages. In my opinion, too many users 
 think of email systems as being some panacean highway for any 
 kind of data transmission no matter the threat or 
 inconvenience to others.  I have had nitwits send out large 
 messages which got caught in a nasty mail loop.  There is no 
 easy answer but I recommend that you approach this from a 
 policy point of view.
 
 Our policy here is 5MB. 
 No ifs or butts (pun intended).
 
 D.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: need ammo
 
 
 Hi all.
 
 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit 
 size on SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
 Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when 
 people try to send too many messages that are too large? What 
 is a reasonable size for SMTP message?
 
 Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times 
 large SMTP messages crashed the servers.
 
 I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good 
 idea to send large messages.
 
 Thanks!
 
   Andrey Fyodorov
 
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RE: Communication

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

Too little information to provide a consise answer. Sorry.

 -Original Message-
 From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:41 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Communication
 
 
 Okay, I am getting knee deep into a conversion from Exchange 
 5.5 to Exchange 2000.  Now we have an NT 4 Domain with two 
 Exchange 5.5 Servers.  We are creating a 2000 Domain that is 
 going to house our new Exchange 2000 Servers. Now we are 
 going to migrate with a test group to make sure everything is 
 going smoothly. What would be the best scenerio to have these 
 servers communicate with each other, that causes the least 
 amount of network traffic. 

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RE: Exchange Delete

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

Right, wouldn't want to follow any of those best practices in the FAQ. The
answer to this particular question is detailed extensively in the archives.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:40 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
 
 
 no we dont use retension.
 
 Thanks
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Lloyd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
 
 
 What about retension? I thought when u delete mail,  it will 
 still remain according to your settings. Here for instance we 
 have 7 days,  so we can retrieve deleted items.
 
  --
  From:   Tener, Richard[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Reply To:   Exchange Discussions
  Sent:   06 September 2002 14:35
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject:RE: Exchange Delete
  
  Ronald,
  
  Do you ever do a offline defrag and if I do it is there 
 any potential 
  problems that can occur during the process.
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:24 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Whenever you delete users and mailbox's the database is left with 
  blank space (white space) throughout the Information Store. 
  Only way 
  to recoup the space is to run an offline defrag, this will make the 
  white space available
  for use.  
  
  Ron
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:20 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: Exchange Delete
  
  
  Hello,
  
  I have exchange 5.5 Sp4 on Nt 4.0 and I am getting 
 close to running 
  out of room on the second partition where my information store is 
  located. The second partition is 12 gigs in size and there is only 
  2gig left until it is all used up.  My information store is 
 8.5 gigs 
  and I figured if I get some people to delete email that it would 
  reduce the size on the second partition.  The weird thing 
 is that when 
  I delete about 200,000 kb in a inbox I go back to the 
 partition I see 
  no change in size.  Does anyone know
  how exchange uses space, or is there any documentation about this.  
  
  Thanks
  Rich
  
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards

IIRC, the 5MB limit comes from some Microsoft article I remember reading a
long time ago.  It could go back as far as Microsoft Mail 3.5.  However, I
have only heard discussion in various Exchange groups, that 5-10MB seems to
be the limit (with exceptions, of course).

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


A quick check of 10 or so companies ESMTP compliant mail servers didn't bear
out the assertion that most companies have a limit of 5MB on the IMS. Has
someone actually done a more comprehensive survey of IMS limits or was the
5MB number an off the cuff statistic?

 -Original Message-
 From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:35 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet
 inbound/Outbound messages. In my opinion, too many users 
 think of email systems as being some panacean highway for any 
 kind of data transmission no matter the threat or 
 inconvenience to others.  I have had nitwits send out large 
 messages which got caught in a nasty mail loop.  There is no 
 easy answer but I recommend that you approach this from a 
 policy point of view.
 
 Our policy here is 5MB.
 No ifs or butts (pun intended).
 
 D.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: need ammo
 
 
 Hi all.
 
 I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit
 size on SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
 Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when
 people try to send too many messages that are too large? What 
 is a reasonable size for SMTP message?
 
 Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times
 large SMTP messages crashed the servers.
 
 I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good
 idea to send large messages.
 
 Thanks!
 
   Andrey Fyodorov
 
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Re: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Neil Hobson

5Mb was quite large in MSMail days!  :-)

Looks rather small these days, IMHO.

Neil
- Original Message -
From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: need ammo


 IIRC, the 5MB limit comes from some Microsoft article I remember reading a
 long time ago.  It could go back as far as Microsoft Mail 3.5.  However, I
 have only heard discussion in various Exchange groups, that 5-10MB seems
to
 be the limit (with exceptions, of course).

 Geoff...


 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo


 A quick check of 10 or so companies ESMTP compliant mail servers didn't
bear
 out the assertion that most companies have a limit of 5MB on the IMS. Has
 someone actually done a more comprehensive survey of IMS limits or was the
 5MB number an off the cuff statistic?

  -Original Message-
  From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:35 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
  The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet
  inbound/Outbound messages. In my opinion, too many users
  think of email systems as being some panacean highway for any
  kind of data transmission no matter the threat or
  inconvenience to others.  I have had nitwits send out large
  messages which got caught in a nasty mail loop.  There is no
  easy answer but I recommend that you approach this from a
  policy point of view.
 
  Our policy here is 5MB.
  No ifs or butts (pun intended).
 
  D.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: need ammo
 
 
  Hi all.
 
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message limit
  size on SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
 
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when
  people try to send too many messages that are too large? What
  is a reasonable size for SMTP message?
 
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times
  large SMTP messages crashed the servers.
 
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good
  idea to send large messages.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Andrey Fyodorov
 
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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Pillai, Raj

Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Last modified version is 5/31/2002

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Are there any Q articles(other than Q316886) pertaining to this some one can
point me to?
I am just about ready to route my internet mail through the exchange 2000
server.

Thanks and happy Friday.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


What if I just remove the SMTP Address Space, recalculate routing on the
ex5.5 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Yes but if you don't cost it out first, it will still be using it when
you remove it (i.e. if you have high volume, this can lead to
stranded/lost mail).

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:28 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default
cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?


What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

At my last gig we routinely received e-mail messages which were 200MB+.
5-10MB limits would have been laughed at. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 IIRC, the 5MB limit comes from some Microsoft article I 
 remember reading a long time ago.  It could go back as far as 
 Microsoft Mail 3.5.  However, I have only heard discussion in 
 various Exchange groups, that 5-10MB seems to be the limit 
 (with exceptions, of course).
 
 Geoff...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 A quick check of 10 or so companies ESMTP compliant mail 
 servers didn't bear out the assertion that most companies 
 have a limit of 5MB on the IMS. Has someone actually done a 
 more comprehensive survey of IMS limits or was the 5MB number 
 an off the cuff statistic?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:35 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: need ammo
  
  
  The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet 
  inbound/Outbound messages. In my opinion, too many users think of 
  email systems as being some panacean highway for any kind of data 
  transmission no matter the threat or inconvenience to 
 others.  I have 
  had nitwits send out large messages which got caught in a 
 nasty mail 
  loop.  There is no easy answer but I recommend that you 
 approach this 
  from a policy point of view.
  
  Our policy here is 5MB.
  No ifs or butts (pun intended).
  
  D.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: need ammo
  
  
  Hi all.
  
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message 
 limit size on 
  SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
  
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when 
 people try 
  to send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable 
  size for SMTP message?
  
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP 
  messages crashed the servers.
  
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to 
  send large messages.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Andrey Fyodorov
  
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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Dale Geoffrey Edwards

I guess the best answer would be business-related.  What is the standard
size of attachments that are sent to a company?  I would say that if your
company were an advertising agency, then you would need larger limits, due
to the graphic file, etc.  If your company was a law firm, you would need
even larger limits.  But if your company only exchanges emails messages and
rarely sends back and forth attachments, the default could be no limit.  As
I said at the beginning -- it is all related to the type of business, IMHO.

Geoff...


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: need ammo


At my last gig we routinely received e-mail messages which were 200MB+.
5-10MB limits would have been laughed at. 

 -Original Message-
 From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:46 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 IIRC, the 5MB limit comes from some Microsoft article I
 remember reading a long time ago.  It could go back as far as 
 Microsoft Mail 3.5.  However, I have only heard discussion in 
 various Exchange groups, that 5-10MB seems to be the limit 
 (with exceptions, of course).
 
 Geoff...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:38 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 A quick check of 10 or so companies ESMTP compliant mail
 servers didn't bear out the assertion that most companies 
 have a limit of 5MB on the IMS. Has someone actually done a 
 more comprehensive survey of IMS limits or was the 5MB number 
 an off the cuff statistic?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:35 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: need ammo
  
  
  The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet
  inbound/Outbound messages. In my opinion, too many users think of 
  email systems as being some panacean highway for any kind of data 
  transmission no matter the threat or inconvenience to 
 others.  I have
  had nitwits send out large messages which got caught in a
 nasty mail
  loop.  There is no easy answer but I recommend that you
 approach this
  from a policy point of view.
  
  Our policy here is 5MB.
  No ifs or butts (pun intended).
  
  D.
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: need ammo
  
  
  Hi all.
  
  I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message
 limit size on
  SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
  
  Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when
 people try
  to send too many messages that are too large? What is a reasonable
  size for SMTP message?
  
  Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times large SMTP
  messages crashed the servers.
  
  I just need to convince this customer that it is not a good idea to
  send large messages.
  
  Thanks!
  
  Andrey Fyodorov
  
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MX record question

2002-09-06 Thread Jean-Francois Bourdeau

HI

If a DNS has 2 MX record, when exactly the 2nd (higher cost) one will be used ?
When the first one do not respond to a SMTP session or when the 1st
one does not existe (respond to a ping request )

Basically I'm moving my customer mail to a new ADSL link, and I was
wondering if today I ask the DNSMaster to put a new mx record (lower
cost) for the new IP link, will; this cause a problem because that new
IP address respond (some kind of router / firewall doing Nat) but
there is not server yet behind the router.

I will install tomorrow the mail server begind that link, but was
concerned about the actual NAT Public Address responding

JF


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RE: need ammo

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

Yeah, which makes it difficult in the case of a hosting company where
multiple customers have different business needs. Might be an area in which
a 3rd party content filtering gateway with the capacity to delay the
delivery of oversized messages could add value.

 -Original Message-
 From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:05 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 I guess the best answer would be business-related.  What is 
 the standard size of attachments that are sent to a company?  
 I would say that if your company were an advertising agency, 
 then you would need larger limits, due to the graphic file, 
 etc.  If your company was a law firm, you would need even 
 larger limits.  But if your company only exchanges emails 
 messages and rarely sends back and forth attachments, the 
 default could be no limit.  As I said at the beginning -- it 
 is all related to the type of business, IMHO.
 
 Geoff...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:53 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: need ammo
 
 
 At my last gig we routinely received e-mail messages which 
 were 200MB+. 5-10MB limits would have been laughed at. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Dale Geoffrey Edwards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:46 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: need ammo
  
  
  IIRC, the 5MB limit comes from some Microsoft article I remember 
  reading a long time ago.  It could go back as far as Microsoft Mail 
  3.5.  However, I have only heard discussion in various Exchange 
  groups, that 5-10MB seems to be the limit (with exceptions, of 
  course).
  
  Geoff...
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:38 AM
  To: Exchange Discussions
  Subject: RE: need ammo
  
  
  A quick check of 10 or so companies ESMTP compliant mail servers 
  didn't bear out the assertion that most companies have a 
 limit of 5MB 
  on the IMS. Has someone actually done a more comprehensive 
 survey of 
  IMS limits or was the 5MB number an off the cuff statistic?
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Darryl Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 7:35 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: RE: need ammo
   
   
   The general policy of most companies is 5MB limit of Internet 
   inbound/Outbound messages. In my opinion, too many users think of 
   email systems as being some panacean highway for any kind of data 
   transmission no matter the threat or inconvenience to
  others.  I have
   had nitwits send out large messages which got caught in a
  nasty mail
   loop.  There is no easy answer but I recommend that you
  approach this
   from a policy point of view.
   
   Our policy here is 5MB.
   No ifs or butts (pun intended).
   
   D.
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:17 PM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: need ammo
   
   
   Hi all.
   
   I have this customer who is unhappy about 10MB message
  limit size on
   SMTP connectors in our shared Exchange environment.
   
   Does anyone have any scary stories about what happens when
  people try
   to send too many messages that are too large? What is a 
 reasonable 
   size for SMTP message?
   
   Our servers originally had higher limits but a few times 
 large SMTP 
   messages crashed the servers.
   
   I just need to convince this customer that it is not a 
 good idea to 
   send large messages.
   
   Thanks!
   
 Andrey Fyodorov
   
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Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Smith Joseph

Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge

2002-09-06 Thread EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)

Thanks. One thing about this company Bosch. They probably are the largest
all MS Exchange Email setup world wide. Somewhere in the range of 200K
users, 50+ sites and about 200+ email servers in about 43 countries. Talk
about seeing it all. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge


That's what I thought might be the driving force... One issue related to
this strategy is that if messages were sent via Bcc or to a DL 
it might not
be possible to determine from a single PST file which mailbox 
contained the
data in question. 

I recently spent a boatload of time exploring similar restore 
scenarios...
One relatively powerful and inexpensive[1] option to consider is using
kvault for this task.

[1] Inexpensive compared to the labor and time costs I estimated for the
methodology you are currently employing. It also positions you well for
future discovery.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:51 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
 Well I am doing a very large restore of emails that go back 
 two years. I extracted all the messages that have certain 
 words in the subject. Easy enough. But the lawyers would like 
 to know if we could put all the extracted messages in one pst 
 for each monthly restore. There are about 7 servers and with 
 two years of data that is alot of PST's.  What they would 
 want is one PST for each monthly restore for each server. 
 Does that make sense. I told them it may not be possible. So 
 there you have it. They either open dozens of PST's that have 
 the subject data or one PST for each month.
 
 What a mess but it beats unemployment. Anyhow I am using 
 Backup Exec and Tivoli and most any combo of Exchange 5.5 
 running on 2000 or NT4.0 you can think of. Plus we are 
 installing new servers and migrating to E2K. One thing is I 
 will cringe if anybody asks me if I ever did any disaster 
 recovery work.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:57 AM
 Subject: RE: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
 
 
  No, there's an option to do the opposite though. Given the 
 limits of 
  PST files re: size and number of messages per folder the number of 
  scenarios where that'd be useful seem somewhat limited. 
 What is it you 
  are trying to achieve?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1) 
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:43 AM
   To: Exchange Discussions
   Subject: Merge all Mailboxes to a single PST using Exmerge
  
  
  
   Fellow Admins. Is there away to run exmerge and put all of the 
   selected mailboxes messages into a single PST. If not, is there a 
   tool out there that will let you do that after you run Exmerge. I 
   have looked hard and couldn't find anything in the latest Exmerge 
   version's document.
  
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RE: Searching Exchange Database

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Miller

Yes it is.. Go to suppport.micosoft.com and look for I love you in
that virus Q you will find the directions and the tools.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of McCready,
Robert
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Searching Exchange Database


Is there any way, to search the information store for a particular
E-mail?

Lets say that I wanted to search the entire server, looking for any
E-mail that contained the word Threat in it.  Is this possible?

Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4.0 SP6a.

It's a long shot, but I had to try.  Thanks!

Robert

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Searching Exchange Database

2002-09-06 Thread McCready, Robert

Is there any way, to search the information store for a particular E-mail?

Lets say that I wanted to search the entire server, looking for any E-mail
that
contained the word Threat in it.  Is this possible?

Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4.0 SP6a.

It's a long shot, but I had to try.  Thanks!

Robert

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RE: Searching Exchange Database

2002-09-06 Thread EXTERN Hlabse Tony (Tek Systems;RBNA/CIT1)

You can search under subject and or attachment but not individual word in
the body. No tool known of from MS unless you go a 3rd party or upgrade to
Exchange 2000 and rollout full index searching.


-Original Message-
From: McCready, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Searching Exchange Database


Is there any way, to search the information store for a 
particular E-mail?

Lets say that I wanted to search the entire server, looking for 
any E-mail
that
contained the word Threat in it.  Is this possible?

Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT 4.0 SP6a.

It's a long shot, but I had to try.  Thanks!

Robert

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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Smith Joseph

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses Citrix
over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup and sync
(higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Miller

Just leave the email on the server for the TS session.. You donÂ’t need a
pst or Ost. 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses
Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup
and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Johnson, Richard (NY Int)

Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses Citrix
over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup and sync
(higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Miller

They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the server over a
TS session over the internet? That does not sound possible at all. 

I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives on the
email server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no speed problems at
all. No PST no OST. I have no clue how or why you would try to stick an
OST in the mix. 

I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc for Email
when I can use someone else's.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Richard (NY Int)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses
Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup
and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


Joseph Smith

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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Darrin J. Carter

Are you trying to create the OST file for when you don't have access to
Citrix?  Then the users laptop with Outlook would have access to the
OST?  Isn't there an issue when Outlook tries to access an OST that was
created with a instance?  Do you have your citrix drives remapped or is
the remote user using the V: (C$) drive?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the server over a
TS session over the internet? That does not sound possible at all. 

I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives on the
email server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no speed problems at
all. No PST no OST. I have no clue how or why you would try to stick an
OST in the mix. 

I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc for Email
when I can use someone else's.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Richard (NY Int)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses
Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup
and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
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5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Mellott, Bill

Remember...with Citrix/TS you are running a remote session...nothing (to
speak of) is taking place on the users machine running the ICA/TS
clientexcept..for Video/Keyboard/Mouse, the local machine is basically a
dumb terminal...

SO to my knowledge there is no way to get the Outlook info from the Outlook
Citrix/ts session to the immediate machine. i.e. no syncing..
OL does not Sync via drive mapping so...thus you can not sync OL to the
local machine..

Ok you could kind'a cheat and do a PST..then copy the PST via the drive
mapping...boy would that S#$K!

To do the OL sync to the users local machine...VPN...

bill



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From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses Citrix
over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup and sync
(higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Smith Joseph

We have a lot of road warriors that want to write email, etc. while offline
(in meetings, on an airplane, etc.) and synchronize with the home office
when they're back in the hotel room.  It's MUCH cheaper for them to use the
Internet connection in the hotel room rather than dial up from Finland back
to Texas.  Not to mention MUCH faster.  

I'm would like to get the TS/Outlook2K to create an ost on their local drive
that can be accessed by their local Outlook2K while offline.

Thanks,
Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the server over a
TS session over the internet? That does not sound possible at all. 

I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives on the
email server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no speed problems at
all. No PST no OST. I have no clue how or why you would try to stick an
OST in the mix. 

I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc for Email
when I can use someone else's.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Richard (NY Int)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses
Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup
and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Smith Joseph

The server drives are re-mapped.  TS users see their local drives as
\\Client\c$, etc.

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-Original Message-
From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:53 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Are you trying to create the OST file for when you don't have access to
Citrix?  Then the users laptop with Outlook would have access to the
OST?  Isn't there an issue when Outlook tries to access an OST that was
created with a instance?  Do you have your citrix drives remapped or is
the remote user using the V: (C$) drive?

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the server over a
TS session over the internet? That does not sound possible at all. 

I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives on the
email server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no speed problems at
all. No PST no OST. I have no clue how or why you would try to stick an
OST in the mix. 

I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc for Email
when I can use someone else's.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Richard (NY Int)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses
Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup
and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Aaron Brasslett

That is a perfect scenario for using a VPN.  Since you already have the
Internet access, you are half way towards a VPN.

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


We have a lot of road warriors that want to write email, etc. while offline
(in meetings, on an airplane, etc.) and synchronize with the home office
when they're back in the hotel room.  It's MUCH cheaper for them to use the
Internet connection in the hotel room rather than dial up from Finland back
to Texas.  Not to mention MUCH faster.  

I'm would like to get the TS/Outlook2K to create an ost on their local drive
that can be accessed by their local Outlook2K while offline.

Thanks,
Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the server over a TS
session over the internet? That does not sound possible at all. 

I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives on the email
server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no speed problems at all. No PST
no OST. I have no clue how or why you would try to stick an OST in the mix. 

I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc for Email when
I can use someone else's.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson, Richard
(NY Int)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses Citrix
over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup and sync
(higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Kevin Miller

That makes more sense.. They want to be able to work with no connection
but then connect to TS and have the mail be the same on the laptop and
on the server.

Could you setup a separate client that ran IMAP just for the offline
sessions to catch up on email?

Voicestream wireless Cellphone dialup adaptors?? 
VPN connections?? 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


We have a lot of road warriors that want to write email, etc. while
offline (in meetings, on an airplane, etc.) and synchronize with the
home office when they're back in the hotel room.  It's MUCH cheaper for
them to use the Internet connection in the hotel room rather than dial
up from Finland back to Texas.  Not to mention MUCH faster.  

I'm would like to get the TS/Outlook2K to create an ost on their local
drive that can be accessed by their local Outlook2K while offline.

Thanks,
Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the server over a
TS session over the internet? That does not sound possible at all. 

I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives on the
email server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no speed problems at
all. No PST no OST. I have no clue how or why you would try to stick an
OST in the mix. 

I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc for Email
when I can use someone else's.

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Richard (NY Int)
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users wants to do
this too.

 -Original Message-
From:   Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop that uses
Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid having the user dialup
and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).

Joseph Smith

Network Administrator
Perlos, Inc.
5201 Alliance Gateway
Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
Work: 817-224-9012
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
What are you on about mate?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage


Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?

Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook Offline Storage

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195


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MSExchangeSA Event ID 9188

2002-09-06 Thread Tom.Gray


About every 15 minutes my Exchange 2000 SP2 server has this in the event log 
(application):
=
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeSA
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   9188
Date:   8/19/2002
Time:   2:36:44 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the membership of group 
'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=domainname,dc=dcname'. Error code '8007203a'. 

Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is not, stop 
all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into the group manually 
and restart all the services. 
===

So, checking microsoft Q294176, it says :
This behavior occurs because the security group object that is specified in the error 
message is no longer in the Users container, which is where Exchange Server expects 
the object to be. 

So I look in my AD, in the users container there is an exchange domain servers  and 
the servername is in that group.

What does this mean?My exchange server SEEMS to be working just fine.  I only have 
a single domain, with a single exchange server.  I haven't even created any OU's yet.

Perhaps this is from the ADC I had to create before I upgraded my exchange server?  Do 
I still need that ADC?

Any constructive suggestions would be appreciated.


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All Kinds of Minds  The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

VPN.

 -Original Message-
 From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:01 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage
 
 
 We have a lot of road warriors that want to write email, etc. 
 while offline (in meetings, on an airplane, etc.) and 
 synchronize with the home office when they're back in the 
 hotel room.  It's MUCH cheaper for them to use the Internet 
 connection in the hotel room rather than dial up from Finland 
 back to Texas.  Not to mention MUCH faster.  
 
 I'm would like to get the TS/Outlook2K to create an ost on 
 their local drive that can be accessed by their local 
 Outlook2K while offline.
 
 Thanks,
 Joseph Smith
 
 Network Administrator
 Perlos, Inc.
 5201 Alliance Gateway
 Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
 Work: 817-224-9012
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:50 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage
 
 
 They want to have a local OST, that is accessed from the 
 server over a TS session over the internet? That does not 
 sound possible at all. 
 
 I access my outlook over a TS session. All of the email lives 
 on the email server. I have a 4 gig email box. And have no 
 speed problems at all. No PST no OST. I have no clue how or 
 why you would try to stick an OST in the mix. 
 
 I even TS my email from my local Desktop now. Why use my proc 
 for Email when I can use someone else's.
 
 --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
 What are you on about mate?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 Johnson, Richard (NY Int)
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:45 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage
 
 
 Let me know if you hear anything about this. One of my users 
 wants to do this too.
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:41 PM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage
 
 I would like to be able to create an ost on a remote laptop 
 that uses Citrix over the Internet.  I would like to avoid 
 having the user dialup and sync (higher cost and lower bandwidth).
 
 Joseph Smith
 
 Network Administrator
 Perlos, Inc.
 5201 Alliance Gateway
 Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
 Work: 817-224-9012
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:29 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage
 
 
 Why would you want an OST in a TS profile?
 
 --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
 What are you on about mate?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Smith Joseph
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:14 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Outlook/Citrix/offline storage
 
 
 Does anyone know a workaround to Q242195?
 
 Windows 2000 Terminal Services Does Not Support Outlook 
 Offline Storage
 
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;Q242195
 
 
 Joseph Smith
 
 Network Administrator
 Perlos, Inc.
 5201 Alliance Gateway
 Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729
 Work: 817-224-9012
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
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RE: MSExchangeSA Event ID 9188

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

Try this
Rich

Event ID: 9188 
Source MSExchangeSA  
Type Error  
Description Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the
membership of group 'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=your domain'.
Error code '80072030'.

Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is
not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into
the group manually and restart all the services.

For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.  
Comments Adrian Grigorof: As per Microsoft: This problem can occur because
Setup searches for these groups in only the default user container, and if
they are not in the default user container Setup determines that the groups
do not exist. See the link below for more info.   
Links Q260914   
Contributors Adrian Grigorof   
 

-Original Message-
From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MSExchangeSA Event ID 9188



About every 15 minutes my Exchange 2000 SP2 server has this in the event log
(application):
=
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeSA
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   9188
Date:   8/19/2002
Time:   2:36:44 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the membership of group
'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=domainname,dc=dcname'. Error code
'8007203a'. 

Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is
not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into
the group manually and restart all the services. 
===

So, checking microsoft Q294176, it says :
This behavior occurs because the security group object that is specified in
the error message is no longer in the Users container, which is where
Exchange Server expects the object to be. 

So I look in my AD, in the users container there is an exchange domain
servers  and the servername is in that group.

What does this mean?My exchange server SEEMS to be working just fine.  I
only have a single domain, with a single exchange server.  I haven't even
created any OU's yet.

Perhaps this is from the ADC I had to create before I upgraded my exchange
server?  Do I still need that ADC?

Any constructive suggestions would be appreciated.


Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds  The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: MSExchangeSA Event ID 9188

2002-09-06 Thread Tom.Gray

Thanks, but as I indicated in my original question the local computer IS a member of 
the group, and has been the entire time.

Tom Gray, Network Engineer
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-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 3:03 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MSExchangeSA Event ID 9188


Try this
Rich

Event ID: 9188 
Source MSExchangeSA  
Type Error  
Description Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the
membership of group 'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=your domain'.
Error code '80072030'.

Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is
not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into
the group manually and restart all the services.

For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.  
Comments Adrian Grigorof: As per Microsoft: This problem can occur because
Setup searches for these groups in only the default user container, and if
they are not in the default user container Setup determines that the groups
do not exist. See the link below for more info.   
Links Q260914   
Contributors Adrian Grigorof   
 

-Original Message-
From: Tom.Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MSExchangeSA Event ID 9188



About every 15 minutes my Exchange 2000 SP2 server has this in the event log
(application):
=
Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchangeSA
Event Category: General 
Event ID:   9188
Date:   8/19/2002
Time:   2:36:44 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   servername
Description:
Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the membership of group
'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=domainname,dc=dcname'. Error code
'8007203a'. 

Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is
not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into
the group manually and restart all the services. 
===

So, checking microsoft Q294176, it says :
This behavior occurs because the security group object that is specified in
the error message is no longer in the Users container, which is where
Exchange Server expects the object to be. 

So I look in my AD, in the users container there is an exchange domain
servers  and the servername is in that group.

What does this mean?My exchange server SEEMS to be working just fine.  I
only have a single domain, with a single exchange server.  I haven't even
created any OU's yet.

Perhaps this is from the ADC I had to create before I upgraded my exchange
server?  Do I still need that ADC?

Any constructive suggestions would be appreciated.


Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds  The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Internet:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ATT Net: (919)960-


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E2K Backups and Service Packs

2002-09-06 Thread WAISEL, HAROLD B

This is an interesting situation we just encountered that I thought others
would be interested in. 

In our test environment, we recently upgraded one of the E2K servers to SP3.
Afterwards, for various reasons, we needed to go back to an SP2 version of
the database, so we tried to restore the older databases, but were getting
JET errors.  After talking with Microsoft, we found out that once an
Exchange Server is upgraded to a newer service pack, you cannot recover an
older-version database using the later-version Exchange server.  This
applies to 3rd party backup software, as well as native Win2K backups.

This means that if, for compliance or business reasons, you need to keep
older versions of your databases archived, you need to know which version of
the software that database last ran under.  In addition you would need to
make sure that when you restore, you must do so on a server that is patched
only to that level of Service Pack.  Apparently this applies to the Private
IS only, and not Public IS.  Once you mount the older-version database on
its corresponding server, you can then dismount it and move it to a newer
version server so that you can use it (if necessary).

If you have any other information about this, I'd be interested in reading
your responses.

Harold Waisel
FleetBoston
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RE: E2K Backups and Service Packs

2002-09-06 Thread Chris Scharff

Some hotfixes can have this effect as well, which underscores the need for
well documented change control.

 -Original Message-
 From: WAISEL, HAROLD B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:12 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: E2K Backups and Service Packs
 
 
 This is an interesting situation we just encountered that I 
 thought others would be interested in. 
 
 In our test environment, we recently upgraded one of the E2K 
 servers to SP3. Afterwards, for various reasons, we needed to 
 go back to an SP2 version of the database, so we tried to 
 restore the older databases, but were getting JET errors.  
 After talking with Microsoft, we found out that once an 
 Exchange Server is upgraded to a newer service pack, you 
 cannot recover an older-version database using the 
 later-version Exchange server.  This applies to 3rd party 
 backup software, as well as native Win2K backups.
 
 This means that if, for compliance or business reasons, you 
 need to keep older versions of your databases archived, you 
 need to know which version of the software that database last 
 ran under.  In addition you would need to make sure that when 
 you restore, you must do so on a server that is patched only 
 to that level of Service Pack.  Apparently this applies to 
 the Private IS only, and not Public IS.  Once you mount the 
 older-version database on its corresponding server, you can 
 then dismount it and move it to a newer version server so 
 that you can use it (if necessary).
 
 If you have any other information about this, I'd be 
 interested in reading your responses.
 
 Harold Waisel
 FleetBoston
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
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IMC Logging Levels? (take 2)

2002-09-06 Thread Joe Rojas

Hi All,

I am trying to find some kind of documentation on the different
levels of logging in the 'diagnostics logging' tab of the IMC (Exchange
5.5). I am trying to find out what is logged at the different levels for all
the categories. (Initialization/Termination, Addressing, Message Transfer,
SMTP Interface Events, Internal Processing, SMTP Protocol Log, and Message
Archival)

Thanks in advance!

Joe Rojas
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Exchange 2K SP3 and moderated public folders?

2002-09-06 Thread Hooks, Tim

Anybody have moderated folders quit working correctly after adding SP3? One of our 
moderated folders (meaning posted items are forwarded first to a moderator, auto 
message generated for the sender, previewed, and then OK'ed for the public folder) no 
longer works. The moderator does not get the message, the auto message is not sent and 
the item is not posted. If I turn off moderation users can post freely - no problems. 
Has only been a problem since Exchange SP3.

We use a single domain, single Exchange server, single site on Windows 2k sp2. Thanks 
for your input.

Timothy J. Hooks, MCSE
Kegler, Brown, Hill  Ritter
Columbus, Ohio

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RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000

2002-09-06 Thread Pillai, Raj

 
This article does not mention about configuring the smtp connector on the
2000 Server.Do I need to create a new smtp connector on my 2000 Server?
My 2 exchange servers(5.5 and 2000) are sitting behind an smtp
server(Interscan viruswall)which sends and receives mail from the Internet
and a PIX firewall.
Currently the smtp server bounces the mail to port 6000 of the exchange 5.5
server. Can I use the same port for the exchange 2000 server also? 

Thanks for any help.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Last modified version is 5/31/2002

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Are there any Q articles(other than Q316886) pertaining to this some one can
point me to?
I am just about ready to route my internet mail through the exchange 2000
server.

Thanks and happy Friday.

Raj

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


What if I just remove the SMTP Address Space, recalculate routing on the
ex5.5 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 8:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Yes but if you don't cost it out first, it will still be using it when
you remove it (i.e. if you have high volume, this can lead to
stranded/lost mail).

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:28 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


So what you are saying is to make the ex5.5 a cost of 2.  The default
cost
in ex2000 is 1.  Therefore it will use ex2000 for all outbound traffic?


What will happen when I remove the IMS on Ex5.5?  Will it automatically
recalc the routing to the ex2000 server?  

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000


Did you change the cost on the 5.5 one?  If they're all cost 1, then
mail will continue to follow the route it knows.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Thursday, September 05, 2002 10:38 AM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000
Subject: Ex5.5 IMS connector in ex2000



Running Exchange in mixed mode, with final exchange 5.5 server ready to
be
removed.  I have changed the site addressing to my new ex2000 server and
recalculated routing, but, noticed that email is still going out
via the IMS on the Ex5.5 server.  Inbound mail comes in OK, just
outgoing
email goes out via the Ex5.5
IMS.  I've stopped the services - but - guess that I actually need to
remove
the IMS from the ex5.5 server in-order to get mail routed outbound via
ex2000.  

Do I need to setup a new smtp connector in ex2000 or is this automatic
after
I removed the ex5.5 IMS?

Ron


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host unreachable

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

Hello,

I have a problem with guy at my job, he cant send to a certain
address (domain ppco.com) he gets a returned failure saying host
unreachable.  I sent a test message to this address and looked in the queue
on the server (exchange 5.5 sp6) and its just sitting there.  We dont have
problems sending to anyone else.  Also i sent a test message from my hotmail
account and told the guy to reply and he did. Is the problem related to
maybe this person having a reverse lookup zone and us not having one.  Any
help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: host unreachable

2002-09-06 Thread Martin Blackstone

What's the domain name???

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: host unreachable


Hello,

I have a problem with guy at my job, he cant send to a certain
address (domain ppco.com) he gets a returned failure saying host
unreachable.  I sent a test message to this address and looked in the queue
on the server (exchange 5.5 sp6) and its just sitting there.  We dont have
problems sending to anyone else.  Also i sent a test message from my hotmail
account and told the guy to reply and he did. Is the problem related to
maybe this person having a reverse lookup zone and us not having one.  Any
help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: host unreachable

2002-09-06 Thread Hutchins, Mike

certain address (domain ppco.com)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


What's the domain name???

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: host unreachable


Hello,

I have a problem with guy at my job, he cant send to a certain
address (domain ppco.com) he gets a returned failure saying host
unreachable.  I sent a test message to this address and looked in the
queue on the server (exchange 5.5 sp6) and its just sitting there.  We
dont have problems sending to anyone else.  Also i sent a test message
from my hotmail account and told the guy to reply and he did. Is the
problem related to maybe this person having a reverse lookup zone and us
not having one.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: host unreachable

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

ppco.com 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 4:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


What's the domain name???

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: host unreachable


Hello,

I have a problem with guy at my job, he cant send to a certain
address (domain ppco.com) he gets a returned failure saying host
unreachable.  I sent a test message to this address and looked in the queue
on the server (exchange 5.5 sp6) and its just sitting there.  We dont have
problems sending to anyone else.  Also i sent a test message from my hotmail
account and told the guy to reply and he did. Is the problem related to
maybe this person having a reverse lookup zone and us not having one.  Any
help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: host unreachable

2002-09-06 Thread Darrin J. Carter

I had the same problem with this domain.  PPCO is Philips Petroleum.
They do reverse lookups of your mail server.  I didn't have a reverse
DNS entry and for testing purposes I had the admin add my server to his
hosts file.  That fixed the problem.  I have since added the reverse DNS
entry.  

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


certain address (domain ppco.com)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


What's the domain name???

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: host unreachable


Hello,

I have a problem with guy at my job, he cant send to a certain
address (domain ppco.com) he gets a returned failure saying host
unreachable.  I sent a test message to this address and looked in the
queue on the server (exchange 5.5 sp6) and its just sitting there.  We
dont have problems sending to anyone else.  Also i sent a test message
from my hotmail account and told the guy to reply and he did. Is the
problem related to maybe this person having a reverse lookup zone and us
not having one.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rich

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RE: host unreachable

2002-09-06 Thread Tener, Richard

thank you I thought it was that just wanted to verify.

Rich

-Original Message-
From: Darrin J. Carter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 5:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


I had the same problem with this domain.  PPCO is Philips Petroleum.
They do reverse lookups of your mail server.  I didn't have a reverse
DNS entry and for testing purposes I had the admin add my server to his
hosts file.  That fixed the problem.  I have since added the reverse DNS
entry.  

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


certain address (domain ppco.com)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 2:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: host unreachable


What's the domain name???

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 1:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: host unreachable


Hello,

I have a problem with guy at my job, he cant send to a certain
address (domain ppco.com) he gets a returned failure saying host
unreachable.  I sent a test message to this address and looked in the
queue on the server (exchange 5.5 sp6) and its just sitting there.  We
dont have problems sending to anyone else.  Also i sent a test message
from my hotmail account and told the guy to reply and he did. Is the
problem related to maybe this person having a reverse lookup zone and us
not having one.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Rich

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