RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW)
Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up
and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set
a small size limit on it. That brings up another question:

If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny
the email when it receives the header information or does it download the
whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the
header information, that would be great.

Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces.


IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

Serving with Pride


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont
stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of
anything would work in that regards with your situation.

Like Andy said, be careful out there. 


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
Distribution List.
3. Hide the Distribution List.

No NDRS, Emails disapear.


And be careful out there.




-- Original Message --
From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800

Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm 
a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS 
DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a 
fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my 
Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage 
everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with 
Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined
this list.

Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for 
mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend 
to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news 
available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email 
distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you 
all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer 
away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their 
mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's 
mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look 
at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the 
exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox 
it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, 
when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the 
originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is 
really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's
for deleted mailboxes in one day!

I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to 
try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they 
continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown 
mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be 
to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a 
deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, 
I would sure appreciate it.

IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

Serving with Pride

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RE: Can this happen with Spam ?

2003-03-24 Thread Busby, Jacob
 But I believe that just turns it off. It doesn't disable it 
 (I could be
 wrong, but that's how I believe it to be). A user could just 
 turn it back
 on.

 BTW - That's called 'web beaconing' (when images are use for 
 tracking). It's
 a very effective method for determining if email addresses 
 are valid, and
 has been used by a LOT of spammers. We've even seen HTML 
 emails that don't
 have any visible images use this by setting the width  
 height to 0 so the
 image doesn't appear, but it still gets accessed.

If my copy of OL2K is anything to go by, the /nopreview switch disables the Preview 
Pane option under View - Preview Pane. Tools - Options - Preview Pane is still there, 
but it's pretty much impotent. 

Autopreview is still available. I could be mistaken, but doesn't this ignore all the 
html formatting and only grab the text only? If so, this might make a safe 
alternative to Preview Pane. 

Maybe there's a tweak for a virus filter out to auto-reject all mail with img files 
below a size visible to the human eye.

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RE: Second SMTP

2003-03-24 Thread Couch, Nate
Some questions:

1) Was this working before you added the second SMTP Virtual Server?

2) What client are you using to send the email?

3) By blank are you talking about the message body of the email?  If so,
was anything typed into it in the first place?


Regards.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 From: Exchange List
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 00:15
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  Second SMTP
 
 Dear List,
 
 I have created Second SMTP virtual server on Server A, The problem I am
 facing is when a user of Server A sends a message to Server B user it is
 received blank, what could be the problem?
 Configuration details:-
 Server A: 
 Root Domain
 Windows 2000 sp3
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Default SMTP Server
 Second SMTP Server
 
 Server B:
 Domain controller of City A.
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Windows 2000 sp3
 
 Any help in this regard is highly appreciated. Please feel free to ask any
 question.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Regards,
 Irf
 
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RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Trent Hancock
I would remove the size limit for your blackhole recipients.  If a message
NDR's due to size it will be sent back to the sender with the rejection
message AND the complete original message and attachment(s).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Biesecker, Noel
E. IT1(SW)
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up
and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set
a small size limit on it. That brings up another question:

If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny
the email when it receives the header information or does it download the
whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the
header information, that would be great.

Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces.


IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

Serving with Pride


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont
stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of
anything would work in that regards with your situation.

Like Andy said, be careful out there.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
Distribution List.
3. Hide the Distribution List.

No NDRS, Emails disapear.


And be careful out there.




-- Original Message --
From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800

Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm
a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS
DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a
fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my
Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage
everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with
Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined
this list.

Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for
mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend
to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news
available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email
distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you
all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer
away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their
mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's
mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look
at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the
exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox
it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough,
when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the
originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is
really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's
for deleted mailboxes in one day!

I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to
try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they
continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown
mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be
to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a
deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out,
I would sure appreciate it.

IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

Serving with Pride

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RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Dave Vantine
Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this
will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong. 


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List.

No NDRS, Emails disapear.


And be careful out there.




-- Original Message --
From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800

Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm 
a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS 
DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a 
fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my 
Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage 
everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with 
Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've 
joined this list.

Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for 
mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend 
to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news 
available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email 
distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you 
all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer 
away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their 
mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's 
mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look 
at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the 
exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox 
it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, 
when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the 
originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is 
really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 
NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day!

I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to 
try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they 
continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown 
mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be 
to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a 
deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, 
I would sure appreciate it.

IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

Serving with Pride

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Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Andy David
Now remember, this is a Distribution List with no members, so I dont
necessarily see a reason to set message size limits myself, otherwise it
will generate NDRs if a message is larger than what you have specified..
When the emails come in to this DL, they will vaporize.

- Original Message -
From: Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


 Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up
 and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also
set
 a small size limit on it. That brings up another question:

 If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange
deny
 the email when it receives the header information or does it download the
 whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the
 header information, that would be great.

 Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces.


 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

 Serving with Pride


 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


 That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont
 stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of
 anything would work in that regards with your situation.

 Like Andy said, be careful out there.


 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions

 1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
 Distribution List.
 3. Hide the Distribution List.

 No NDRS, Emails disapear.


 And be careful out there.




 -- Original Message --
 From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800

 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm
 a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS
 DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a
 fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my
 Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage
 everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with
 Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined
 this list.
 
 Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for
 mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend
 to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news
 available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email
 distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you
 all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer
 away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their
 mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's
 mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look
 at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the
 exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox
 it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough,
 when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the
 originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is
 really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350
NDR's
 for deleted mailboxes in one day!
 
 I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to
 try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they
 continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown
 mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be
 to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a
 deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out,
 I would sure appreciate it.
 
 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
 
 Serving with Pride
 
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Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Andy David
Short of unsubscribing all the users from all those lists...

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


 Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this
 will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong. 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
 
 
 1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
 Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List.
 
 No NDRS, Emails disapear.
 
 
 And be careful out there.
 
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800
 
 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm 
 a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS 
 DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a 
 fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my 
 Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage 
 everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with 
 Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've 
 joined this list.
 
 Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for 
 mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend 
 to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news 
 available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email 
 distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you 
 all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer 
 away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their 
 mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's 
 mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look 
 at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the 
 exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox 
 it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, 
 when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the 
 originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is 
 really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 
 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day!
 
 I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to 
 try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they 
 continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown 
 mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be 
 to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a 
 deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, 
 I would sure appreciate it.
 
 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
 
 Serving with Pride
 
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RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Dave Vantine
Exactly!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


Short of unsubscribing all the users from all those lists...

- Original Message - 
From: Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:56 AM
Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.


 Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think 
 this will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
 
 
 1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to 
 this Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List.
 
 No NDRS, Emails disapear.
 
 
 And be careful out there.
 
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800
 
 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. 
 I'm
 a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS 
 DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a 
 fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my 
 Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage 
 everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with 
 Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've 
 joined this list.
 
 Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound 
 for
 mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend 
 to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news 
 available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email 
 distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you 
 all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer 
 away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their 
 mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's 
 mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look 
 at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the 
 exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox 
 it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, 
 when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the 
 originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is 
 really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 
 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day!
 
 I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector 
 to
 try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they 
 continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown 
 mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be 
 to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a 
 deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, 
 I would sure appreciate it.
 
 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
 
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RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations..... [bcc]

2003-03-24 Thread King, John
Not to be too redundant here, but I have been running Postfix on a Slackware
box as a corporate SMTP gateway.  I would highly recommend Postfix for such
an application.  The benefits of such a system are RBL checks on incoming
mail, low overhead, and with rrd one can produce pretty little graphs(to
show management).  Recently Spam had become a major problem for us, as many
others I am sure.  I decided to implement SpamAssasin with Postfix in
advanced filtering mode.  There is plenty of documentation on different
filtering techniques with Postfix.  Since 2/12/03 SpamAssassin has caught
10143 pieces of UCE with a very low false positive rate.  The best part
about the system is it costs our company $0.  Just some thoughts on non
commercial software.

John

-Original Message-
From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: SPAM blockin software recommendations. [bcc]



It seems the idiots are getting better all the time :-)..
I don't run Postfix myself so I can't really comment on the paper you refer
to.

Take a look at www.postfix.org too, I personally check several sources to 
find out if a certain piece of information is true. Which does not mean I 
don't trust Advosys but I'd rather check it all the same. They may have 
forgotten some information you may need.


B.

At 19:25 23-03-2003 +, you wrote:
I think I'll have a play with Redhat 8 tomorrow as we have the CDs at work,
last time I installed it I used Webmin to configure Postfix and it seemed
fairly straightforward to get the basics working.

http://advosys.ca/papers/printable/postfix-filtering.html seems fairly
idiot-proof for the spamassassin filtering?

regards
Paul
- Original Message -
From: B. van Ouwerkerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations. [bcc]


  At 17:47 23-03-2003 +, you wrote:
I recommend qmail, which is not only highly secure - it has
NEVER had a security breach - but is also at least 4-5 times
as fast as Sendmail, and much, much easier to set up and configure.
  
  I know this question always stirs up a bit of a hornets nest amongst
*nix
  users, but which distro would you suggest for someone with sod-all *nix
  knowledge looking to setup an MTA with spamassassin filtering?
 
  Really?? I don't see why it should..
 
  If you like to do things the hard way (like /me) you should go for
  Slackware. It's the best but also less friendly for Windows users. Pico
is
  wat comes as close to a gui as it gets.. for those of you who don't know
  Pico, it's just as graphical as the good old edit on the DOS prompt. :-)
  It even got some mouse support.. but who needs a mouse if you can do it
  with tapping some keys.. right?
 
  More friendly distro's are RedHat, Suse both provide commercial support.
I
  think Mandrake provides commercial support too. If you feel more like a
  free product then Debian is your distro.
  Whatever you do don't use Linuxconf for setting up Sendmail, it's broke.
 
 
  B.
 
 
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RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations.....

2003-03-24 Thread Paul Hutchings
Well, setting it up now (again after a play install this morning).

I don't wish to turn this into a Postfix list so if anyone can help and
would care to answer off-list:

At present my box is on the LAN, if I've called it relay.mira.co.uk and I
want it to accept any mail for the mira.co.uk domain and forward it to
otherserver.mira.co.uk do I use virtual domains or, as I think, transport
mappings?

Reason I ask is that the transport mappings don't appear to work if I use
the format domain.com smtp:[otherserver.mira.co.uk]

regards,
Paul
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 -Original Message-
 From: King, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:06
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations. [bcc]
 
 
 Not to be too redundant here, but I have been running Postfix 
 on a Slackware
 box as a corporate SMTP gateway.  I would highly recommend 
 Postfix for such
 an application.  The benefits of such a system are RBL checks 
 on incoming
 mail, low overhead, and with rrd one can produce pretty 
 little graphs(to
 show management).  Recently Spam had become a major problem 
 for us, as many
 others I am sure.  I decided to implement SpamAssasin with Postfix in
 advanced filtering mode.  There is plenty of documentation on 
 different
 filtering techniques with Postfix.  Since 2/12/03 
 SpamAssassin has caught
 10143 pieces of UCE with a very low false positive rate.  The 
 best part
 about the system is it costs our company $0.  Just some 
 thoughts on non
 commercial software.
 
   John
 
 -Original Message-
 From: B. van Ouwerkerk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 3:40 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: SPAM blockin software recommendations. [bcc]
 
 
 
 It seems the idiots are getting better all the time :-)..
 I don't run Postfix myself so I can't really comment on the 
 paper you refer
 to.
 
 Take a look at www.postfix.org too, I personally check 
 several sources to 
 find out if a certain piece of information is true. Which 
 does not mean I 
 don't trust Advosys but I'd rather check it all the same. 
 They may have 
 forgotten some information you may need.
 
 
 B.
 
 At 19:25 23-03-2003 +, you wrote:
 I think I'll have a play with Redhat 8 tomorrow as we have 
 the CDs at work,
 last time I installed it I used Webmin to configure Postfix 
 and it seemed
 fairly straightforward to get the basics working.
 
 http://advosys.ca/papers/printable/postfix-filtering.html 
 seems fairly
 idiot-proof for the spamassassin filtering?
 
 regards
 Paul
 - Original Message -
 From: B. van Ouwerkerk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 6:07 PM
 Subject: RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations. [bcc]
 
 
   At 17:47 23-03-2003 +, you wrote:
 I recommend qmail, which is not only highly secure - it has
 NEVER had a security breach - but is also at least 4-5 times
 as fast as Sendmail, and much, much easier to set up 
 and configure.
   
   I know this question always stirs up a bit of a hornets 
 nest amongst
 *nix
   users, but which distro would you suggest for someone 
 with sod-all *nix
   knowledge looking to setup an MTA with spamassassin filtering?
  
   Really?? I don't see why it should..
  
   If you like to do things the hard way (like /me) you should go for
   Slackware. It's the best but also less friendly for 
 Windows users. Pico
 is
   wat comes as close to a gui as it gets.. for those of you 
 who don't know
   Pico, it's just as graphical as the good old edit on the 
 DOS prompt. :-)
   It even got some mouse support.. but who needs a mouse if 
 you can do it
   with tapping some keys.. right?
  
   More friendly distro's are RedHat, Suse both provide 
 commercial support.
 I
   think Mandrake provides commercial support too. If you 
 feel more like a
   free product then Debian is your distro.
   Whatever you do don't use Linuxconf for setting up 
 Sendmail, it's broke.
  
  
   B.
  
  
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RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Alverson, Tom
This could be done with a separate machine that receives mail for your
domain and only relays valid addresses to you.  In order to help with the
bandwidth problem, this machine would have to be somewhere that did not have
a bandwidth limitation.  

Tom 


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Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 8:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a
network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO. My
organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly small
network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet connection
bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my network fairly
well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem
to figure out. That's 

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Backup Exec

2003-03-24 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Does anyone know of a Backup Exec add-on that acts like Netbackup
Professional?  We want to backup laptops on the go, but don't want to
purchase another server product if possible.  I don't see anything on
Veritas website, but wanted to run it by you fine folks.  Thanks.

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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread bscott
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, at 11:40am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No one gets my MX records but me. Period. There's too much marginally
 confidential information crossing email these days to make that a
 practical solution for all byt the smallest shops.

  The thing is, cleartext email being sent over the Internet is insecure
anyway.  Your ISP (or their ISP, or the other end's ISP, or ...) doesn't
need to be the MX to snoop your mail.  The data is already flowing through
their network.  Don't get me wrong; the problem of confidential information
being sent in email is a real one.  But the run your own MX thing just
seems like you're giving yourself a false sense of security.

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RE: Backup Exec

2003-03-24 Thread Olds, Dominic
not sure if this helps but veritas used to make a product called
telebackup...a delta backup type product specifically for laptops. It was
around version 7.2 though.
Best of luck
Dom.

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Sent: 24 March 2003 14:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec


Does anyone know of a Backup Exec add-on that acts like Netbackup
Professional?  We want to backup laptops on the go, but don't want to
purchase another server product if possible.  I don't see anything on
Veritas website, but wanted to run it by you fine folks.  Thanks.

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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread Roger Seielstad
The difference is that it isn't being relayed through my ISP's mail servers.
Therefore, to my ISP, its just another set of traffic on the wire. By it
passing through a third party mailer, by definition it must be stored before
being forwarded. That's enough of a difference to matter, IMO.

It is still in the clear so its susceptible to snooping. It just requires
more effort to do, and that effort delta is definitely non-zero.

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Inovis Inc.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: postini spam control
 
 
 On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, at 11:40am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No one gets my MX records but me. Period. There's too much 
 marginally 
  confidential information crossing email these days to make that a 
  practical solution for all byt the smallest shops.
 
   The thing is, cleartext email being sent over the Internet 
 is insecure anyway.  Your ISP (or their ISP, or the other 
 end's ISP, or ...) doesn't need to be the MX to snoop your 
 mail.  The data is already flowing through their network.  
 Don't get me wrong; the problem of confidential information 
 being sent in email is a real one.  But the run your own MX 
 thing just seems like you're giving yourself a false sense of 
 security.
 
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Renaming E2K server

2003-03-24 Thread Oliver Tann
I have to rename my E2K server as it doesn't match its hostname and uses
an underscore (so I can't just change the hostname).  Some external mail
recipients reject mail as the servername and hostnames don't match.  It's
also a DC so I'll have to demote it first

My question is simply are there any problems in changing the name of a
mailserver?  Should I stop all the services first?  And do I need to do
anything to the AD once I've demoted it to a member server.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Oliver

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RE: Renaming E2K server

2003-03-24 Thread Neil Hobson

I did just reply on the MS newsgroups on this, but I'll reply here as
well.  You cannot rename an Exchange server, so your options are to
rebuild the server with a new name, or put in a 3rd party relay that
offers the chance to say HELO using a different name.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Tann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 24 March 2003 12:27
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Renaming E2K server
Subject: Renaming E2K server


I have to rename my E2K server as it doesn't match its hostname and uses
an underscore (so I can't just change the hostname).  Some external mail
recipients reject mail as the servername and hostnames don't match.
It's also a DC so I'll have to demote it first

My question is simply are there any problems in changing the name of a
mailserver?  Should I stop all the services first?  And do I need to do
anything to the AD once I've demoted it to a member server.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Oliver

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RE: Renaming E2K server

2003-03-24 Thread Pillai, Raj

You cannot rename exchange 2000 server...

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Tann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Renaming E2K server


I have to rename my E2K server as it doesn't match its hostname and uses
an underscore (so I can't just change the hostname).  Some external mail
recipients reject mail as the servername and hostnames don't match.
It's
also a DC so I'll have to demote it first

My question is simply are there any problems in changing the name of a
mailserver?  Should I stop all the services first?  And do I need to do
anything to the AD once I've demoted it to a member server.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Oliver

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Re: Renaming E2K server

2003-03-24 Thread William Lefkovics
I've called mine lots of names.  ;o)


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From: Neil Hobson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 6:59 AM
Subject: RE: Renaming E2K server



I did just reply on the MS newsgroups on this, but I'll reply here as
well.  You cannot rename an Exchange server, so your options are to
rebuild the server with a new name, or put in a 3rd party relay that
offers the chance to say HELO using a different name.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Tann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 24 March 2003 12:27
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Renaming E2K server
Subject: Renaming E2K server


I have to rename my E2K server as it doesn't match its hostname and uses
an underscore (so I can't just change the hostname).  Some external mail
recipients reject mail as the servername and hostnames don't match.
It's also a DC so I'll have to demote it first

My question is simply are there any problems in changing the name of a
mailserver?  Should I stop all the services first?  And do I need to do
anything to the AD once I've demoted it to a member server.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Oliver


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RE: Email inbound to deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth

2003-03-24 Thread Ed Crowley
Daylight come and I wanna go home!

Create a distribution list with no members and add these departed
sailors' e-mail addresses to this list.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Biesecker, Noel
E. IT1(SW)
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 12:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email inbound to deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth


Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm a
network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS DEYO.
My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a fairly
small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my Internet
connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage everything on my
network fairly well, but there are certain things with Exchange 5.5 that
I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined this list.

Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for
mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend to
spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news
available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email
distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you
all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer away
from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their mailboxes.
Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's mailbox,
something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look at all
those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the exchange
server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox it's being
sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough, when it
doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the originator,
further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is really taking up a
lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's for deleted
mailboxes in one day! 

I've checked everything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to
try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they
continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown
mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be to
tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a
deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out, I
would sure appreciate it.

IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer

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RE: CA's in test environment

2003-03-24 Thread Ed Crowley
You are aware, aren't you, that if you try to replicate objects from AD
to any other container than the Recipients container that you'll have
reply problems?  Unfortunately, it isn't a good idea to try to be too
clever when using ADC.

Clearly the CA is not working as expected.  You should review the
settings.  Also, be aware that if the corresponding user object already
exists in any OU, the CA will find it and match it.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leeann McCallum
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: CA's in test environment


I'm doing some testing with Recipient Connection Agreements in a test
environment which does not have Exchange 2000 installed but has had the
ADC, forestprep and domainprep all run.

Our AD design has users being created in a different OU from the, so I
have created a primary 2-way CA which will replicate from a 5.5
container into an OU which is not the default Users container.  But each
time a mailbox is created in the Exchange container, an AD user is
created in the default Users container and NOT the one I've specified in
my Connection Agreement.  

Any ideas on what I've missed?

Thanks
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RE: SMTP connector issue

2003-03-24 Thread Woodruff, Michael
It looks like they are using Western European (ISO) as default encoding.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: SMTP connector issue


What's the encoding look like on the client?

That's a WAG, BTW.
- Original Message - 
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: SMTP connector issue


Exchange 2k SP3

Finally, I got an event on this.  Every now and then one of our users
(Random) sends an outbound email with an attachment that gets stuck on
our SMTP connector that connects to our mail gateway.  Below are the
events it triggered in order.  Its not a certain attachment and its not
a certain client.  Its all random.  Clients are sending HTML, RTF, and
plain text.   It happens to all of them.  I'm stuck on this.  It has
been happening for a while so I am kind of frustrated.  I guess it might
lead to PSS.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

1.
Event ID: 327
Source: MSExchangeTransport
Category: Exchange Store Driver


The following call : EcGetMime to the store failed. Error code :
-2147024809. MDB : 2126f66d-a776-4b44-9790-bc6902e8aed1. FID : 1-2E. MID
: 1-2E2AC8B. File : . 




2.
Event ID: 4000

Message delivery to the remote domain '[mail gateway ip]' failed for the
following reason: Unable to open the message for delivery.

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RE: SMTP connector issue

2003-03-24 Thread Woodruff, Michael
This Q article has my symptoms, but not the fix.  Q298415

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: SMTP connector issue


It looks like they are using Western European (ISO) as default encoding.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 11:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: SMTP connector issue


What's the encoding look like on the client?

That's a WAG, BTW.
- Original Message - 
From: Woodruff, Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: SMTP connector issue


Exchange 2k SP3

Finally, I got an event on this.  Every now and then one of our users
(Random) sends an outbound email with an attachment that gets stuck on
our SMTP connector that connects to our mail gateway.  Below are the
events it triggered in order.  Its not a certain attachment and its not
a certain client.  Its all random.  Clients are sending HTML, RTF, and
plain text.   It happens to all of them.  I'm stuck on this.  It has
been happening for a while so I am kind of frustrated.  I guess it might
lead to PSS.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

1.
Event ID: 327
Source: MSExchangeTransport
Category: Exchange Store Driver


The following call : EcGetMime to the store failed. Error code :
-2147024809. MDB : 2126f66d-a776-4b44-9790-bc6902e8aed1. FID : 1-2E. MID
: 1-2E2AC8B. File : . 




2.
Event ID: 4000

Message delivery to the remote domain '[mail gateway ip]' failed for the
following reason: Unable to open the message for delivery.

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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread Michel, David
Don't shoot since I'm just the messenger and we are not a customer but
since we just received a proposal from them...  

The Postini sales pitch tells you specifically that absolutely no email
, unless identified as SPAM and therefore quarantined, ever gets written
to disk anywhere in their system.  Not sure if it's totally believable
but that's what they say.  They also state that even the quarantined
emails are not written to backup so there should be no effect on
storage/recovery issues such as those required by the SEC, NASDAQ,
etc...  Since the good email is never written to disk and you have the
ability to log into your company's email that was quarantined, there
should be no issue since your email is not exposed to any additional
scrutiny or exposure.

Just the two cents from them..  NOT ME..  

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:26 AM
Posted To: dsm_lists
Conversation: postini spam control
Subject: RE: postini spam control


The difference is that it isn't being relayed through my ISP's mail
servers.
Therefore, to my ISP, its just another set of traffic on the wire. By it
passing through a third party mailer, by definition it must be stored
before
being forwarded. That's enough of a difference to matter, IMO.

It is still in the clear so its susceptible to snooping. It just
requires
more effort to do, and that effort delta is definitely non-zero.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


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 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: postini spam control
 
 
 On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, at 11:40am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  No one gets my MX records but me. Period. There's too much 
 marginally 
  confidential information crossing email these days to make that a 
  practical solution for all byt the smallest shops.
 
   The thing is, cleartext email being sent over the Internet 
 is insecure anyway.  Your ISP (or their ISP, or the other 
 end's ISP, or ...) doesn't need to be the MX to snoop your 
 mail.  The data is already flowing through their network.  
 Don't get me wrong; the problem of confidential information 
 being sent in email is a real one.  But the run your own MX 
 thing just seems like you're giving yourself a false sense of 
 security.
 
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Re: Second SMTP

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
Does it work correctly when you uninstall the disclaimer event sinks you
have installed?

On 3/24/03 0:15, Exchange List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear List,
 
 I have created Second SMTP virtual server on Server A, The problem I am facing
 is when a user of Server A sends a message to Server B user it is received
 blank, what could be the problem?
 Configuration details:-
 Server A: 
 Root Domain
 Windows 2000 sp3
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Default SMTP Server
 Second SMTP Server
 
 Server B:
 Domain controller of City A.
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Windows 2000 sp3
 
 Any help in this regard is highly appreciated. Please feel free to ask any
 question.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Regards,
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Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
It reduces the total bandwidth used by 50% as no NDR is returned.

On 3/24/03 6:56, Dave Vantine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Although this will eliminate the emails being stored, I do not think this
 will address his bandwidth issue but I could be wrong.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
 
 
 1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
 Distribution List. 3. Hide the Distribution List.
 
 No NDRS, Emails disapear.
 
 
 And be careful out there.
 
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800
 
 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm
 a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS
 DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a
 fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my
 Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage
 everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with
 Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've
 joined this list.
 
 Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for
 mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend
 to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news
 available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email
 distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you
 all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer
 away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their
 mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's
 mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look
 at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the
 exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox
 it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough,
 when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the
 originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is
 really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350
 NDR's for deleted mailboxes in one day!
 
 I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to
 try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they
 continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown
 mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be
 to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a
 deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out,
 I would sure appreciate it.
 
 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
 
 Serving with Pride
 
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Re: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
Size limits for individual mailboxes are not evaluated at the connector
level in Exchange 5.5/DMS. In E2K with AD, you may be able to get
evaluations of message size done earlier in the transmissions process... I
can't remember for certain.

On 3/24/03 10:27, Biesecker, Noel E. IT1(SW) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Thanks for the info Andy. I think that will help quite a bit. I set it up
 and added a bunch of the old email address addresses as aliases. I also set
 a small size limit on it. That brings up another question:
 
 If you have a size limit specified for users' mailboxes, does exchange deny
 the email when it receives the header information or does it download the
 whole thing and then deny it? If it denies the email upon receipt of the
 header information, that would be great.
 
 Also, thank you all for your support for us and the rest of our forces.
 
 
 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
 
 Serving with Pride
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 10:25 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Inbound email for deleted mailboxes wasting bandwidth.
 
 
 That will stop the NDR's. Which will help some on the bandwidth. It wont
 stop the mail from coming to the server though. I cant really think of
 anything would work in that regards with your situation.
 
 Like Andy said, be careful out there.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 7:15 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 1. Create a Distribution List with no members.
 2. Add the SMTP addresses of the people who are no longer there to this
 Distribution List.
 3. Hide the Distribution List.
 
 No NDRS, Emails disapear.
 
 
 And be careful out there.
 
 
 
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: IT1(SW) Biesecker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Sun, 23 Mar 2003 05:03:27 -0800
 
 Hi everyone. I'm new to this group so here's a quick introduction. I'm
 a network Administrator in the US NAVY, currently on board the USS
 DEYO. My organization contains about 350 people so it is actually a
 fairly small network. While we are underway (as we are now), my
 Internet connection bandwidth is approximately 14 Kbps. I manage
 everything on my network fairly well, but there are certain things with
 Exchange 5.5 that I just can't seem to figure out. That's why I've joined
 this list.
 
 Today, my question deals with emails that arrive on my server bound for
 mailboxes that no longer exist. My clients and I are Sailors who tend
 to spend a lot of time away from home and many times, have no news
 available to us. That's why so many of my clients sign up for email
 distribution lists for things such as news, jokes, etc., I'm sure you
 all know exactly what I'm talking about. Well, when people transfer
 away from my command, I remove their accounts and delete their
 mailboxes. Recently, I decided to check the Exchange Administrator's
 mailbox, something that I have never done in the past. Holy cow! Look
 at all those Inbound Mail Failures and NDR's! It seems that the
 exchange server still downloads the whole email, even if the mailbox
 it's being sent to is no longer there. Then, as if that's not enough,
 when it doesn't find the mailbox, it sends an NDR back to the
 originator, further wasting my bandwidth. I've found that this is
 really taking up a lot of my precious bandwidth. I'm talking over 350 NDR's
 for deleted mailboxes in one day!
 
 I've checked eveything I can think of in the Internet Mail Connector to
 try to prevent the NDR's from being sent back to the Internet, but they
 continue to go out. Can someone help me stop these NDR's for Unknown
 mailboxes from going out? And what would be better than that would be
 to tell my server not to download the message if it is destined for a
 deleted mailbox. Is there a way to do this? If anyone can help me out,
 I would sure appreciate it.
 
 IT1(SW) Biesecker, USN
 USS DEYO (DD-989) Strike Destroyer
 
 Serving with Pride
 
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RE: Renaming E2K server

2003-03-24 Thread Neil Hobson

What I've written below is a bunch of rubbish, as you can change the
FQDN on the SMTP virtual server (and thanks to Oliver for pointing that
out!).  It's just that we were having a discussion about this in the
office the other day, and several SMTP gateways cannot do this.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson 
Posted At: 24 March 2003 15:00
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Renaming E2K server
Subject: RE: Renaming E2K server



I did just reply on the MS newsgroups on this, but I'll reply here as
well.  You cannot rename an Exchange server, so your options are to
rebuild the server with a new name, or put in a 3rd party relay that
offers the chance to say HELO using a different name.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Tann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 24 March 2003 12:27
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Renaming E2K server
Subject: Renaming E2K server


I have to rename my E2K server as it doesn't match its hostname and uses
an underscore (so I can't just change the hostname).  Some external mail
recipients reject mail as the servername and hostnames don't match. It's
also a DC so I'll have to demote it first

My question is simply are there any problems in changing the name of a
mailserver?  Should I stop all the services first?  And do I need to do
anything to the AD once I've demoted it to a member server.

Any help greatly appreciated.
Oliver

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Re: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
So it's your assertion that it takes more effort to sniff the wire than to
sniff traffic on a box one may or may not have access to initially. Doesn't
sound right on the face, but not sure it's worth arguing about.

On 3/24/03 8:25, Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The difference is that it isn't being relayed through my ISP's mail servers.
 Therefore, to my ISP, its just another set of traffic on the wire. By it
 passing through a third party mailer, by definition it must be stored before
 being forwarded. That's enough of a difference to matter, IMO.
 
 It is still in the clear so its susceptible to snooping. It just requires
 more effort to do, and that effort delta is definitely non-zero.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis Inc.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:08 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: postini spam control
 
 
 On Fri, 21 Mar 2003, at 11:40am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 No one gets my MX records but me. Period. There's too much
 marginally 
 confidential information crossing email these days to make that a
 practical solution for all byt the smallest shops.
 
   The thing is, cleartext email being sent over the Internet
 is insecure anyway.  Your ISP (or their ISP, or the other
 end's ISP, or ...) doesn't need to be the MX to snoop your
 mail.  The data is already flowing through their network.
 Don't get me wrong; the problem of confidential information
 being sent in email is a real one.  But the run your own MX
 thing just seems like you're giving yourself a false sense of
 security.
 
 -- 
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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread bscott
On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, at 9:25am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The difference is that it isn't being relayed through my ISP's mail
 servers. Therefore, to my ISP, its just another set of traffic on the
 wire. By it passing through a third party mailer, by definition it must be
 stored before being forwarded. That's enough of a difference to matter,
 IMO.

  I don't think there is a real difference.  Either way, you're saying you
don't trust the ISP (which is not an unreasonable stance).  In one case,
someone is snooping messages in transit on a server.  In the other case,
someone is snooping messages in transit on a wire.  If you don't trust the
ISP not to do the former, why do you trust them not to do the later?

 It is still in the clear so its susceptible to snooping. It just
 requires more effort to do, and that effort delta is definitely non-zero.

  I don't know about that, either.  Your average server is typically much
better protected than your average network.  Mail servers have filesystem
access controls, user accounts, passwords, and so on.  Violating such access
controls will typically leave behind a trail.  Plugging a passive sniffer
into a hub, on the other hand, leaves no evidence, and is often done as a
routine part of network analysis.

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RE: urlscan debugging in owa 2000. Was Double-clicking attachments in OWA 2000 gives 404

2003-03-24 Thread Erik Sojka
(Let's keep this on the list for the benefit of all ;)

Do you have separate URLScan installations on your FE and BE servers?

What's the name of the Excel file below?

The %20 and %25 in the URLs below map to their character counterparts, and
the %25 converts to % - disallowed.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Byron Kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 3:24 PM
 To: Erik Sojka
 Subject: RE: urlscan debugging in owa 2000. Was 
 Double-clicking attachments in OWA 2000 gives 404
 
 
 Got ya. this is exactly what I've done so far.  Just benchmarking my
 thinking.  Appreciate your follow-up Erik.  OWA 2000 has only been
 running a week and I think we've squashed most bugs by tweaking the
 urlscan.ini.  
 
 Here's an xls file that got filtered today.  I obscured the username.
 Trying to track it to a rule in the ini. Thoughts?
 
 Snip from test .ini
 [DenyUrlSequences]
 ;..  ; Don't allow directory traversals
 ./  ; Don't allow trailing dot on a directory name
 \   ; Don't allow backslashes in URL
 ;%   ; Don't allow escaping after normalization (causing problems)
; Don't allow multiple CGI processes to run on a single request
 ;:  ; per Q309677
 
 snip from today's test log
 
 [03-21-2003 - 07:30:14] Client at 67.122.251.230: URL 
 normalization was
 not complete after one pass. Request will be rejected.  Site
 Instance='1', Raw
 URL='/exchange/user.name/Sent%20Items/PROPOSAL%20PIPELINE-2.EM
 L/1_multip
 art/PROPOSALpipeline%2520BF%252003-13-03.xls'
 
 Cheers-byron
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 5:33 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: Double-clicking attachments in OWA 2000 gives 404
 
 
 I'll look at ours and get back to yours;  
 
 Be aware that if you are 100% patched and up to date on your IIS code,
 you may be able to completely remove some of the entries that are
 intended to protect against exploits that are already protected by a
 patch.  We compromised and removed some redundant entries 
 (removed ..
 but kept .\ to protect against the CMD.EXE exploit).  
 

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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk

The Postini sales pitch tells you specifically that absolutely no email
, unless identified as SPAM and therefore quarantined, ever gets written
to disk anywhere in their system.  Not sure if it's totally believable
but that's what they say.
Then they need quite a few servers.. Or they stop accepting connections if 
they can't handle the mail immidiately. So the important e-mail arrives 
tomorrow because there's a lot of mail to scan..

 They also state that even the quarantined
emails are not written to backup
Yummie. That's going to be fun if an important e-mail got lost while it was 
quarantined by mistake.
It would be much better if they would rename the attachement which might 
hold harmful payload and ship it off to the receiver after all.

/me wouldn't believe the sales ppl.

B.

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RE: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread Durkee, Peter
You're all talking like it's an either/or situation. The fact is that if you have your 
mail sent to Postini or some other similar service, it's available both on the wire 
and on their servers, and to make matters worse there are more wires involved. If, on 
the other hand, it comes straight to you then it's as secure as it's possible to get 
with *regular* e-mail. 

-Peter

 --
 From: B. van Ouwerkerk
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:38 AM
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  RE: postini spam control
 
 
 The Postini sales pitch tells you specifically that absolutely no email
 , unless identified as SPAM and therefore quarantined, ever gets written
 to disk anywhere in their system.  Not sure if it's totally believable
 but that's what they say.
 
 Then they need quite a few servers.. Or they stop accepting connections if 
 they can't handle the mail immidiately. So the important e-mail arrives 
 tomorrow because there's a lot of mail to scan..
 
   They also state that even the quarantined
 emails are not written to backup
 
 Yummie. That's going to be fun if an important e-mail got lost while it was 
 quarantined by mistake.
 It would be much better if they would rename the attachement which might 
 hold harmful payload and ship it off to the receiver after all.
 
 /me wouldn't believe the sales ppl.
 
 
 B.
 
 
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Re: postini spam control

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
 If, on the other hand, it comes straight to you then it's
 as secure as it's possible to get with *regular* e-mail.

Right. In other words, it isn't.

Question:  If my mail is insecure in scenario A and scenario B, which should
I choose if security of my data is a requirement in implementation.

Is the answer anything other than neither? If so, please show your work.


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Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Erick Thompson
I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail mode (using a
3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the messages/contacts/etc
over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an Exchange 2k server
(corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
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Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
snags/problems that I be aware of?

Thanks,
Erick


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RE: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Martin Blackstone
Yep. That will work fine. 


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From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail mode (using a
3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the messages/contacts/etc
over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an Exchange 2k server
(corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
exporting the pst file from pre-Exchange Outlook and importing it to the
Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
snags/problems that I be aware of?

Thanks,
Erick


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RE: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Erik Sojka
Nope;  That should work without problems.  

Just be aware of normal PST management issues (don't let the size of the PST
grow above 2GB, etc)

 -Original Message-
 From: Erick Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:20 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange
 
 
 I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail 
 mode (using a
 3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the 
 messages/contacts/etc
 over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an 
 Exchange 2k server
 (corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
 exporting the pst file from pre-Exchange Outlook and 
 importing it to the
 Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
 snags/problems that I be aware of?
 
 Thanks,
 Erick
 
 
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RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations.....

2003-03-24 Thread Wendel, Jesse
We use the www.tummy.com server distro of Redhat.  Strips out the GUI which we don't 
need and don't want, and gives us an updated server CD once a month.  Plus the folks 
at tummy.com are as good as they get.  Highly recommended.

Jesse Wendel
Sr. Technical Systems Analyst
Primary Messaging/DNS Administrator
www.pse.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 9:48 AM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 Subject: RE: SPAM blockin software recommendations.
 
 
  I recommend qmail, which is not only highly secure - it has 
  NEVER had a security breach - but is also at least 4-5 times 
  as fast as Sendmail, and much, much easier to set up and configure.
 
 I know this question always stirs up a bit of a hornets nest 
 amongst *nix
 users, but which distro would you suggest for someone with 
 sod-all *nix
 knowledge looking to setup an MTA with spamassassin filtering?
 
 regards
 Paul
 
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Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
You don't need to export the PST file from pre-Exchange outlook to
anything.. You need to import that PST file into Exchange after converting
Outlook from IMO to CW. That might have been what you meant, but wasn't
exactly what you said.

On 3/24/03 12:20, Erick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail mode (using a
 3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the messages/contacts/etc
 over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an Exchange 2k server
 (corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
 exporting the pst file from pre-Exchange Outlook and importing it to the
 Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
 snags/problems that I be aware of?


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Exmerge?

2003-03-24 Thread Pillai, Raj


I have to use the exmerge utility to create PST files of mailboxes for
about 3 users who are leaving the firm. Their mailbox sizes are really
huge (about 1GB each). I have never had the opportunity to use Exmerge,
so I want to get an idea. Can this be done online or do I need to take
the Exchange Server offline to do this? I know it affects the SIS, will
it really increase my database size drastically? I only have 4GB of
space left on a 36Gb partition where the Information store resides. Will
this retain the folder tree structure for OL client.
If it requires exchange downtime, I'd rather export to PST files using
the Outlook client.

Thanks for all your input

Raj

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RE: Exmerge?

2003-03-24 Thread Peter Orlowski
I think you can only use Exmerge while the Exchange is online.  I use it all
the time when a user leaves the company and have had no problems with it.
The largest I have ever exported is 200MB though and it took about 10
seconds.  I have yet to see the database grow becuase of me using exmerge.

- Peter

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From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:35 AM
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Subject: Exmerge?




I have to use the exmerge utility to create PST files of mailboxes for
about 3 users who are leaving the firm. Their mailbox sizes are really
huge (about 1GB each). I have never had the opportunity to use Exmerge,
so I want to get an idea. Can this be done online or do I need to take
the Exchange Server offline to do this? I know it affects the SIS, will
it really increase my database size drastically? I only have 4GB of
space left on a 36Gb partition where the Information store resides. Will
this retain the folder tree structure for OL client.
If it requires exchange downtime, I'd rather export to PST files using
the Outlook client.

Thanks for all your input

Raj


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Re: Exmerge?

2003-03-24 Thread William Lefkovics
For only 3 people, you can use Outlook to esport to .pst if you're
concerned.

ExMerge will do this while the computer is online.  The help file that comes
with is very thorough.

The .pst files are going to take up more room than what that content
occupied in the Exchange database.

William

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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: Exmerge?




I have to use the exmerge utility to create PST files of mailboxes for
about 3 users who are leaving the firm. Their mailbox sizes are really
huge (about 1GB each). I have never had the opportunity to use Exmerge,
so I want to get an idea. Can this be done online or do I need to take
the Exchange Server offline to do this? I know it affects the SIS, will
it really increase my database size drastically? I only have 4GB of
space left on a 36Gb partition where the Information store resides. Will
this retain the folder tree structure for OL client.
If it requires exchange downtime, I'd rather export to PST files using
the Outlook client.

Thanks for all your input

Raj


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Re: Exmerge?

2003-03-24 Thread Tony Hlabse
No need to take offline. Exmerge requires that the IS store be started 
anyhow.





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Subject: Exmerge?
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:34:50 -0600


I have to use the exmerge utility to create PST files of mailboxes for
about 3 users who are leaving the firm. Their mailbox sizes are really
huge (about 1GB each). I have never had the opportunity to use Exmerge,
so I want to get an idea. Can this be done online or do I need to take
the Exchange Server offline to do this? I know it affects the SIS, will
it really increase my database size drastically? I only have 4GB of
space left on a 36Gb partition where the Information store resides. Will
this retain the folder tree structure for OL client.
If it requires exchange downtime, I'd rather export to PST files using
the Outlook client.
Thanks for all your input

Raj

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RE: Exmerge?

2003-03-24 Thread Michelle Harmon
You can't use Exmerge at all if you take the store offline,  since the
information store is the home of the information you'll be extracting.
:)  

It won't increase your database size at all if you're merely exporting
the mail to PST - the only way it would have a chance to increase the
store size would be if you were importing a PST into the information
store.  

And...yes, it will retain your folder tree structure that the user
created, as long as they created the folder structure for their Exchange
mailbox folders and not a personal folder.  

Hope this helps.

-Michelle

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:35 PM
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Subject: Exmerge?



I have to use the exmerge utility to create PST files of mailboxes for
about 3 users who are leaving the firm. Their mailbox sizes are really
huge (about 1GB each). I have never had the opportunity to use Exmerge,
so I want to get an idea. Can this be done online or do I need to take
the Exchange Server offline to do this? I know it affects the SIS, will
it really increase my database size drastically? I only have 4GB of
space left on a 36Gb partition where the Information store resides. Will
this retain the folder tree structure for OL client.
If it requires exchange downtime, I'd rather export to PST files using
the Outlook client.

Thanks for all your input

Raj


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Move Exchange install directory

2003-03-24 Thread gywitz
I am running Exchange 5.5/SP4 and am looking to repartition my server to
make a volume set to house an private information store that is growing
too big for its current place. I am familiar with moving databases, logs,
mta etc with the optimizer. However, it turns out that one of the
partitions I wish to repartition and format contains the Exchange install
directory with the Add-in, Address, Res shares and the admin program
directory. How can I safely move these shares and the admin install
directory? Thank you for your help.

Gary

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RE: Exmerge?

2003-03-24 Thread Pillai, Raj

Thanks everyone :)

-Original Message-
From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:39 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exmerge?


You can't use Exmerge at all if you take the store offline,  since the
information store is the home of the information you'll be extracting.
:)  

It won't increase your database size at all if you're merely exporting
the mail to PST - the only way it would have a chance to increase the
store size would be if you were importing a PST into the information
store.  

And...yes, it will retain your folder tree structure that the user
created, as long as they created the folder structure for their Exchange
mailbox folders and not a personal folder.  

Hope this helps.

-Michelle

-Original Message-
From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exmerge?



I have to use the exmerge utility to create PST files of mailboxes for
about 3 users who are leaving the firm. Their mailbox sizes are really
huge (about 1GB each). I have never had the opportunity to use Exmerge,
so I want to get an idea. Can this be done online or do I need to take
the Exchange Server offline to do this? I know it affects the SIS, will
it really increase my database size drastically? I only have 4GB of
space left on a 36Gb partition where the Information store resides. Will
this retain the folder tree structure for OL client.
If it requires exchange downtime, I'd rather export to PST files using
the Outlook client.

Thanks for all your input

Raj


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Re: Move Exchange install directory

2003-03-24 Thread Tony Hlabse
SOL Reinstall or do a recovery to a bigger box or some fancy partition 
software may help.





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Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:44:44 -0800
I am running Exchange 5.5/SP4 and am looking to repartition my server to
make a volume set to house an private information store that is growing
too big for its current place. I am familiar with moving databases, logs,
mta etc with the optimizer. However, it turns out that one of the
partitions I wish to repartition and format contains the Exchange install
directory with the Add-in, Address, Res shares and the admin program
directory. How can I safely move these shares and the admin install
directory? Thank you for your help.
Gary

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Personal folders are 0kb

2003-03-24 Thread Gonzalez, Alex
I have a user that has a pst that she cannot get into and it is showing
0kb for size.  Anyone come across this before.  Client is Outlook 2002.
I have ran scanpst and it says there is no data to recover.

Thanks,

Alex


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A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5

2003-03-24 Thread Jay Kulsh
Our drive that contains information store is near capacity. We will like to
replace it with a larger drive. Will the following scenario work?

1. After shutting down the server, add the larger drive and bring back the
server with all Exchange services stopped.
2. Copy the MDBData folder to the new drive.
3. Rename the new drive same as the old drive (E: in this case) in Disk
Manager.
4. Start the Exchange services after running  isinteg -patch.
5. If everything goes well, shutdown the server and remove the old drive and
boot up.

Is there any flaw in this thinking? Please comment. Thanks.

- Jay

Jay Kulsh


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RE: Personal folders are 0kb

2003-03-24 Thread Martin Blackstone
Sounds trashed. If its 0 in size, there is nothing left to recover. 


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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have a user that has a pst that she cannot get into and it is showing
0kb for size.  Anyone come across this before.  Client is Outlook 2002.
I have ran scanpst and it says there is no data to recover.

Thanks,

Alex


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RE: Personal folders are 0kb

2003-03-24 Thread Finch Brett
 Yes just right click on the properties of Outlook and select her profile
and remove that 'Archive Folder'. It is empty.

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 14:11
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Personal folders are 0kb


I have a user that has a pst that she cannot get into and it is showing 0kb
for size.  Anyone come across this before.  Client is Outlook 2002. I have
ran scanpst and it says there is no data to recover.

Thanks,

Alex


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Change of IP address

2003-03-24 Thread Bailey, Matthew
We are in the process of planning a move of the server farm to a new
IP subnet which includes 2 Exchange 2000 servers.  Aside from the
obvious issue with receiving Internet e-mail, does anybody know of any
issue with this?  Has anybody successfully pulled it off?

Any advice would be appreciated,

- Matt


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Re: Personal folders are 0kb

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
An empty PST file is 32k. Anything smaller than that is FUBAR.

On 3/24/03 15:11, Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a user that has a pst that she cannot get into and it is showing
 0kb for size.  Anyone come across this before.  Client is Outlook 2002.
 I have ran scanpst and it says there is no data to recover.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Alex


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RE: Personal folders are 0kb

2003-03-24 Thread St. John, Drew
FUBAR = 5 bytes

See, less than 32k...

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From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: Personal folders are 0kb


An empty PST file is 32k. Anything smaller than that is FUBAR.

On 3/24/03 15:11, Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a user that has a pst that she cannot get into and it is showing
 0kb for size.  Anyone come across this before.  Client is Outlook 2002.
 I have ran scanpst and it says there is no data to recover.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Alex


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RE: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5

2003-03-24 Thread Leeann McCallum
I haven't had to do it, but I would probably do a full backup, shut down the
server, add the additional drive, and then use Exchange Optimiser to move
the databases to the new drive.

Once all services back up and running, disconnect the old drive.



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From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 9:49 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5


Our drive that contains information store is near capacity. We will like to
replace it with a larger drive. Will the following scenario work?

1. After shutting down the server, add the larger drive and bring back the
server with all Exchange services stopped. 2. Copy the MDBData folder to the
new drive. 3. Rename the new drive same as the old drive (E: in this case)
in Disk Manager. 4. Start the Exchange services after running  isinteg
-patch. 5. If everything goes well, shutdown the server and remove the old
drive and boot up.

Is there any flaw in this thinking? Please comment. Thanks.

- Jay

Jay Kulsh


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Re: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5

2003-03-24 Thread Jay Kulsh
Thanks for replying. I am planning to do a full backup as well as exporting
mailboxes using ExMerge.
The problem using Optimizer is that I wll lose the current drive letter --
somewhat discomfiting.

Jay

- Original Message -
From: Leeann McCallum
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5



I haven't had to do it, but I would probably do a full backup, shut down the
server, add the additional drive, and then use Exchange Optimiser to move
the databases to the new drive.

Once all services back up and running, disconnect the old drive.



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From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 9:49 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5


Our drive that contains information store is near capacity. We will like to
replace it with a larger drive. Will the following scenario work?

1. After shutting down the server, add the larger drive and bring back the
server with all Exchange services stopped. 2. Copy the MDBData folder to the
new drive. 3. Rename the new drive same as the old drive (E: in this case)
in Disk Manager. 4. Start the Exchange services after running  isinteg
-patch. 5. If everything goes well, shutdown the server and remove the old
drive and boot up.

Is there any flaw in this thinking? Please comment. Thanks.

- Jay

Jay Kulsh


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Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Erick Thompson
Thanks to everyone for the confirmation.

I will be exporting then importing, because I won't be converting Outlook.
This is part of a network upgrade, on a fresh install of Outlook on a
different LAN, a different AD naming scheme. I don't think it should make
any difference, as IIRC IMO Outlook isn't AD aware.

Erick

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From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange


 You don't need to export the PST file from pre-Exchange outlook to
 anything.. You need to import that PST file into Exchange after converting
 Outlook from IMO to CW. That might have been what you meant, but wasn't
 exactly what you said.

 On 3/24/03 12:20, Erick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail mode (using
a
  3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the
messages/contacts/etc
  over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an Exchange 2k
server
  (corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
  exporting the pst file from pre-Exchange Outlook and importing it to the
  Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
  snags/problems that I be aware of?


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RE: Backup Exec

2003-03-24 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I think they renamed that product Net backup Professional.


Ryan

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Subject: RE: Backup Exec

not sure if this helps but veritas used to make a product called
telebackup...a delta backup type product specifically for laptops. It
was
around version 7.2 though.
Best of luck
Dom.

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backup Exec


Does anyone know of a Backup Exec add-on that acts like Netbackup
Professional?  We want to backup laptops on the go, but don't want to
purchase another server product if possible.  I don't see anything on
Veritas website, but wanted to run it by you fine folks.  Thanks.

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Re: Change of IP address

2003-03-24 Thread Tony Hlabse




Just have your Firewall point to the new IP's. Unless your changing 
something regarding email addresses.

From: Bailey, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Change of IP address
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 15:05:01 -0700
We are in the process of planning a move of the server farm to a new
IP subnet which includes 2 Exchange 2000 servers.  Aside from the
obvious issue with receiving Internet e-mail, does anybody know of any
issue with this?  Has anybody successfully pulled it off?
Any advice would be appreciated,

- Matt

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Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Chris Scharff
All currently shipping versions of Outlook are not AD aware. You still don't
need to export to PST, the mail already exists in PST format. It just needs
to be copied somewhere (not strictly necessary depending on config) and then
imported. Exporting from a PST to a PST would be redundant.

On 3/24/03 16:57, Erick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks to everyone for the confirmation.
 
 I will be exporting then importing, because I won't be converting Outlook.
 This is part of a network upgrade, on a fresh install of Outlook on a
 different LAN, a different AD naming scheme. I don't think it should make
 any difference, as IIRC IMO Outlook isn't AD aware.
 
 Erick
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:06 AM
 Subject: Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange
 
 
 You don't need to export the PST file from pre-Exchange outlook to
 anything.. You need to import that PST file into Exchange after converting
 Outlook from IMO to CW. That might have been what you meant, but wasn't
 exactly what you said.
 
 On 3/24/03 12:20, Erick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail mode (using
 a
 3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the
 messages/contacts/etc
 over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an Exchange 2k
 server
 (corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
 exporting the pst file from pre-Exchange Outlook and importing it to the
 Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
 snags/problems that I be aware of?
 
 
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Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange

2003-03-24 Thread Erick Thompson
Ok, that makes sense. For some reason I thought that the PST file was only
used for IMO Outlook, and not CW (aside from an inport/export system).

Thanks,
Erick

- Original Message -
From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange


 All currently shipping versions of Outlook are not AD aware. You still
don't
 need to export to PST, the mail already exists in PST format. It just
needs
 to be copied somewhere (not strictly necessary depending on config) and
then
 imported. Exporting from a PST to a PST would be redundant.

 On 3/24/03 16:57, Erick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Thanks to everyone for the confirmation.
 
  I will be exporting then importing, because I won't be converting
Outlook.
  This is part of a network upgrade, on a fresh install of Outlook on a
  different LAN, a different AD naming scheme. I don't think it should
make
  any difference, as IIRC IMO Outlook isn't AD aware.
 
  Erick
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chris Scharff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: Please confirm Outlook internet - Outlook exchange
 
 
  You don't need to export the PST file from pre-Exchange outlook to
  anything.. You need to import that PST file into Exchange after
converting
  Outlook from IMO to CW. That might have been what you meant, but wasn't
  exactly what you said.
 
  On 3/24/03 12:20, Erick Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I want to set a user up using Outlook 2000, in internet mail mode
(using
  a
  3rd party POP server), then at a later date move the
  messages/contacts/etc
  over to a new system using Outlook 2000 attached to an Exchange 2k
  server
  (corproate/workgroup mode). From what I understand, I can do this by
  exporting the pst file from pre-Exchange Outlook and importing it to
the
  Exchange Outlook. Should this work fairly seemlessly? Are there any
  snags/problems that I be aware of?
 
 
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Outlook, very slow opening new messages

2003-03-24 Thread Hiatt, Jack (MARC)
We are running Exchange 5.5 on NT4.0 with a mix of Outlook 97  Outlook 2000
clients, recently several of the client machines are experiencing very slow
opening of new messages in the inbox.  Once a message has been read it opens
rapidly.   Opening the mailbox from another user also results in slow
opening of messages.   Anyone have any ideas or hints on this one?

Jack Hiatt
Munich American Reassurance Co
Atlanta  Ga.  

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RE: Outlook, very slow opening new messages

2003-03-24 Thread Ben Schorr
Lots of questions...

1) What's your infrastructure?  WAN? LAN? 
2) How's your utilization?  LAN traffic? Server overburdened? 
3) Using a client-side anti-virus software?
4) Anything special about those client machines?  Problem happens on OL97
and OL2K or just one or the other?

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


 
 -Original Message-
 From: Hiatt, Jack (MARC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:49 PM
 To: Exchange Discussions
 
 We are running Exchange 5.5 on NT4.0 with a mix of Outlook 97 
  Outlook 2000 clients, recently several of the client 
 machines are experiencing very slow opening of new messages 
 in the inbox.  Once a message has been read it opens
 rapidly.   Opening the mailbox from another user also results in slow
 opening of messages.   Anyone have any ideas or hints on this one?
 
 Jack Hiatt
 Munich American Reassurance Co
 Atlanta  Ga.  
 
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RE: Second SMTP

2003-03-24 Thread Exchange List
It was working before but when I created second smtp which I will use for outbound 
mails, the message received by the user on server b gets blank message, yes message 
was typed in the message body. We are using Outlook 2000.

Regards,
irf

 -Original Message-
From:   Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, March 24, 2003 5:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Second SMTP

Some questions:

1) Was this working before you added the second SMTP Virtual Server?

2) What client are you using to send the email?

3) By blank are you talking about the message body of the email?  If so,
was anything typed into it in the first place?


Regards.

Nate Couch
EDS Messaging

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 From: Exchange List
 Reply To: Exchange Discussions
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 00:15
 To:   Exchange Discussions
 Subject:  Second SMTP
 
 Dear List,
 
 I have created Second SMTP virtual server on Server A, The problem I am
 facing is when a user of Server A sends a message to Server B user it is
 received blank, what could be the problem?
 Configuration details:-
 Server A: 
 Root Domain
 Windows 2000 sp3
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Default SMTP Server
 Second SMTP Server
 
 Server B:
 Domain controller of City A.
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Windows 2000 sp3
 
 Any help in this regard is highly appreciated. Please feel free to ask any
 question.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Regards,
 Irf
 
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RE: Second SMTP

2003-03-24 Thread Exchange List
No Chris it is not working without disclaimer as well I have checked it. 

 -Original Message-
From:   Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent:   Monday, March 24, 2003 9:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:Re: Second SMTP

Does it work correctly when you uninstall the disclaimer event sinks you
have installed?

On 3/24/03 0:15, Exchange List [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear List,
 
 I have created Second SMTP virtual server on Server A, The problem I am facing
 is when a user of Server A sends a message to Server B user it is received
 blank, what could be the problem?
 Configuration details:-
 Server A: 
 Root Domain
 Windows 2000 sp3
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Default SMTP Server
 Second SMTP Server
 
 Server B:
 Domain controller of City A.
 Exchange 2000 sp2
 Windows 2000 sp3
 
 Any help in this regard is highly appreciated. Please feel free to ask any
 question.
 
 Thanks in advance
 Regards,
 Irf


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RE: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5

2003-03-24 Thread Sander Van Butzelaar
Another option:
1. Full backup
2. Shut exchange server down
2. Remove small drive
3. Ghost small drive onto new big drive (on another pc if you want)
4. Replace new drive
5. Start up

No need to run any patches or Exmerge. I personally would go for the
Optimiser option, but if you are anal about a drive letter this will
work.

Sander

-Original Message-
From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 25 March 2003 12:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5

Thanks for replying. I am planning to do a full backup as well as
exporting
mailboxes using ExMerge.
The problem using Optimizer is that I wll lose the current drive letter
--
somewhat discomfiting.

Jay

- Original Message -
From: Leeann McCallum
To: Exchange Discussions
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:16 PM
Subject: RE: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5



I haven't had to do it, but I would probably do a full backup, shut down
the
server, add the additional drive, and then use Exchange Optimiser to
move
the databases to the new drive.

Once all services back up and running, disconnect the old drive.



-Original Message-
From: Jay Kulsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 9:49 a.m.
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: A Simple Question - Replacing a small drive in Exch 5.5


Our drive that contains information store is near capacity. We will like
to
replace it with a larger drive. Will the following scenario work?

1. After shutting down the server, add the larger drive and bring back
the
server with all Exchange services stopped. 2. Copy the MDBData folder to
the
new drive. 3. Rename the new drive same as the old drive (E: in this
case)
in Disk Manager. 4. Start the Exchange services after running  isinteg
-patch. 5. If everything goes well, shutdown the server and remove the
old
drive and boot up.

Is there any flaw in this thinking? Please comment. Thanks.

- Jay

Jay Kulsh


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Change the primary SMTP address using VBscript

2003-03-24 Thread Veld, Paul
Has anyone tried to use a VBscript to change the primary SMTP address for a
number of users?

We are in the process of a demerger.  During the transition process, all the
users in the new company need to have some additional SMTP addresses.  After
a certain date, the primary SMTP address needs to be changed from the
existing Company1 address to the new Company2 address.  I have tried to do
this in a script, but it doesn't do what I want.  The script basically goes
through a particular OU ( containing all the user accounts which are
migrating to the new company ), extracts the proxy addresses for each user
into an array, then reads through the array and modifies the appropriate
values.  It then writes the array back to the user object and loops back to
the next user.  It runs with no error, but when I look at the user's
properties, the primary SMTP address has not been changed.

Has anyone done this before??  Can anyone see what I'm doing wrong??  As you
can probably see from the code, I'm not a scripting guru.  I have googled
and looked at as many sample scripts ( MSDN, Script Center etc ) as I could
find, but I wasn't able to find any code specifically about changing the
primary SMTP address.

Any assistance gratefully accepted.

Code extract follows ..

' -
Option Explicit

Dim objDSE, strDefaultDN, strDN, objContainer, objChild
Dim ObjUser, arrProxy, strProxy, strValue, arrayValues(3)
Dim strEmail, strEmail1, strEmail2, strEmail3, strEmail4
Dim fso, outputfile, i, strAlias, strMail

Const E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND = h8000500D
Const ADS_PROPERTY_UPDATE = 2
Const ADS_PROPERTY_APPEND = 3

On Error Resume Next

' Bind to rootDSE and establish the connection to the OU
Set objDSE = GetObject(LDAP://rootDSE;)
strDefaultDN = OU=Test,  objDSE.Get(defaultNamingContext)
Set objContainer = GetObject(LDAP://;  strDefaultDN)

objContainer.Filter = Array(user) ' only want to process user objects

i = 0
strEmail = 

For Each objChild In objContainer   ' loop through users in OU
Wscript.echo  
WScript.Echo objChild.Name  vbTab  objChild.Description  vbTab 
objChild.distinguishedname
Wscript.echo  
set objUser = GetObject(LDAP://;  objChild.distinguishedname) '
bind to user object
arrProxy = objUser.GetEx(proxyAddresses)  ' load proxy
addresses into an array

i = 0
strEmail = 

If err.number = E_ADS_PROPERTY_NOT_FOUND Then   ' if the property is
not found, display message
Wscript.echo No proxy addresses - property not found
err.clear
Else
If isEmpty(arrProxy) Then   ' if no proxy
addresses, display message
Wscript.echo No proxy addresses - empty array
Else
wscript.echo (ubound(arrProxy)+1)proxy
addresses found
dim arrNewproxy()
For i = 0 To Ubound ( arrProxy ) ' loop through
proxy addresses
strProxy = arrProxy(i)
'Wscript.echo old   i   strProxy:   
strProxy
If ( InStr ( strProxy, SMTP: )  0 ) Then
' is this the primary SMTP address?
strProxy = Lcase(strProxy)
End If
If ( InStr ( strProxy, bogus1 )  0 ) Then
' is this the new primary SMTP address?
strProxy = Replace(strProxy, smtp,
SMTP)
End If
arrNewproxy(i) = strProxy
'Wscript.echo new   i   strProxy:strProxy
Next ' i
objUser.PutEx ADS_PROPERTY_UPDATE,
msExchPoliciesExcluded, Array({26491CFC-9E50-4857-861B-0CB8DF22B5D7})
' clear the -use recipient policies- field
objUser.PutEx ADS_PROPERTY_UPDATE, proxyAddresses,
Array(arrNewproxy)
objUser.SetInfo
' apply the changes we have made to the object
set objUser = Nothing
' release the user object binding
End If
End If
Next

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