RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Edgington, Jeff
Yep, it will place the items into the 'Deleted Items' folder of the PST
file.



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I got asked once if it was possible and found that an option had been
added
at some point to Exmerge to allow extraction from the Dumpster for mail
on
Exchange 5.5 (or later) servers.  

Exmege version 3.71 has an option "CopyDeletedItemsFromDumpster", which
if
set to 1 it will copy the dumpster items.  The default is 0.

 Jane

Jane F. Elliott
Postmaster Team
Tektronix, Inc.


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From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


As far as I know, Dumpster items do not get extracted by Exmerge.

A Mailbox Move loses items in the Dumpster.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:40 PM
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Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

Yes purging from deleted item recovery will remove it from the dumpster.
I
doubt Exmerge would do this as it just exports from the mailbox so I
would
assume it does the same on the dumpster which of course has to be
specifically selected.

Regards,

Paul

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From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary
folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct?

Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the
same
result?

Stu

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From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange
even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder.
It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

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From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted'
from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not
appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have
no
backups whilst the item existed.

Thanks

Stu



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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread pf-ml-msexchange

I got asked once if it was possible and found that an option had been added
at some point to Exmerge to allow extraction from the Dumpster for mail on
Exchange 5.5 (or later) servers.  

Exmege version 3.71 has an option "CopyDeletedItemsFromDumpster", which if
set to 1 it will copy the dumpster items.  The default is 0.

 Jane

Jane F. Elliott
Postmaster Team
Tektronix, Inc.


-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


As far as I know, Dumpster items do not get extracted by Exmerge.

A Mailbox Move loses items in the Dumpster.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

Yes purging from deleted item recovery will remove it from the dumpster. I
doubt Exmerge would do this as it just exports from the mailbox so I would
assume it does the same on the dumpster which of course has to be
specifically selected.

Regards,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary
folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct?

Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the same
result?

Stu

-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have no
backups whilst the item existed.

Thanks

Stu



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RE: Several questions on E2k and Active Directory

2003-08-01 Thread Ed Crowley
You really ought to learn about the concept of paragrpahs.

Call Veritas and don't accept the answer that the Exchange server should
also be a GC.

Yes, installing Exchange on a DC requires you do to more to get it operating
than if it were a member server.  What happens if the DC function on your
Exchange server fails and requires you to rebuild it?  Your e-mail could be
down for a while!  If the DC is a separate box, and another is available,
you can simply rebuild it and practically nobody will notice.

There is never more than one Configuration domain controller.

Exchange will select domain controllers in the same site.  If there are no
available domain controllers in the site, then after a delay of about 15
minutes (a guess based on observation) it will work from a list of some
number of domain controllers (is it 20?) in the organization without regard
to any proximity calculations.

Just because you make your box a domain controller doesn't mean it will use
itself for that purpose if there are other domain controllers in the same
site.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:19 AM
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Subject: Several questions on E2k and Active Directory

Single Exch2K SP3, Win2K AD Domain, several DCs/GCs in place.
I am replacing a Win2K DC which happens to be 1 of 2 GCs and holds all FSMO
roles (among other things). Earlier this week, I set up the replacement
server, installed AD and transferred all FSMO except PDC emulator. Yesterday
I set the new DC as a GC and removed GC from the old one. Apparently this
has caused Veritas Backup Exec (which also runs on the machine that used to
be a GC) to fail when trying to connect to the E2K box for individual
mailbox backups. Veritas suggests making sure that the E2K machine itself is
a GC which of course means installing AD on it. They dont seem to offer any
other suggestions... As I got to thinking about it I figured that would
actually fit into my server layout pretty well. Anyway, I have searched the
knowledge base articles, read the resource kit and searched back through a
year of posts to this discussion list and it looks like the cons for this
arrangement are performance and recovery. I dont have any performance issues
- the E2K box CPU peaks at 5% occaisionally but is generally barely
breathing and there is on average nearly a gig of available RAM. Drive
performance is hardly utilized as well so that only leaves the recovery
issue. Is this simply that it is more difficult to recover a server that
does several things or is there something specific to E2K that makes
recovery more difficult if it is also a DC?
Also, When I view the DCs on the Directory Access Tab of my E2K servers
properties, it list 1 machine as the Configuration Domain Controller. I
noticed that changed when I removed GC from the original server. Does E2K
pick that machine from the "closest" DC or what? Will that change to the E2K
box itself if I make it a GC?
Last question - Does anyone know of anything to look out for if I do decide
to make my E2K box a DC?
Thanks!

Jeff Hague
MCSE
Network Manager
Randolph-Macon College

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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Ed Crowley
As far as I know, Dumpster items do not get extracted by Exmerge.

A Mailbox Move loses items in the Dumpster.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bendall, Paul
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

Yes purging from deleted item recovery will remove it from the dumpster. I
doubt Exmerge would do this as it just exports from the mailbox so I would
assume it does the same on the dumpster which of course has to be
specifically selected.

Regards,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary
folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct?

Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the same
result?

Stu

-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have no
backups whilst the item existed.

Thanks

Stu



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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Bendall, Paul
On the note of this Virus I think we updated in time. But I see ISSCan was
updated post sp4 for Exchange 5.5. Does anyone have the latest version of
the file?

Paul

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Sent: 01 August 2003 21:14
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Subject: RE: Heads up on a new virus


This has almost always been the first place I learn about new viruses.  I
subscribe to numerous virus warning lists and this list has almost always
been first to identify a virus that is a true threat.


> Well, it wasn't hard, but it also wasn't _automatic_.  If I hadn't read
this ML > today, I might have missed it.
> 
> Jim H

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RE: Default Calendar coverage period

2003-08-01 Thread Phillip Yan
There is a reghack. I think you may roll out this via a logon script.

Key Name: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Office\9.0\Outlook\Preferences
Value Name: FBPublishRange
Data Type: REG_DWORD
Data: 0xc (which is 12)

Cheers,
Phillip



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I need to chnge this to 12 months for all of the users...
Is there a way to modify it on the back end, so we do not need to do it in
Outlook on all the workstations? (think the default is 2 months?)
Thanks-
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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Bendall, Paul
Yes purging from deleted item recovery will remove it from the dumpster. I
doubt Exmerge would do this as it just exports from the mailbox so I would
assume it does the same on the dumpster which of course has to be
specifically selected.

Regards,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary
folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct?

Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the same
result?

Stu

-Original Message-
From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

-Original Message-
From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 19:05
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have no
backups whilst the item existed.

Thanks

Stu



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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Aaron Brasslett
This has almost always been the first place I learn about new viruses.  I
subscribe to numerous virus warning lists and this list has almost always
been first to identify a virus that is a true threat.


> Well, it wasn't hard, but it also wasn't _automatic_.  If I hadn't read
this ML > today, I might have missed it.
> 
> Jim H

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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Jim Helfer
Nick Field wrote:
> No, but they do have it in their intelligent updater/xdb update if
> you use NAV/SAV CE, it should be easy enough to roll out.
> 
> Nick
> 


 Well, it wasn't hard, but it also wasn't _automatic_.  If I hadn't read
this ML today, I might have missed it.

 Jim H

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 August 2003 19:42
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Heads up on a new virus
> 
> 
>   Symantec doesn't have the virusdef file that blocks this ready for
> live update yet :-(
> 
> 
> Aaron Brasslett wrote:
>> Thanks Martin.  We are already seeing this virus hit our file
>> filters. 
>> 
>> Aaron
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:51 PM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: Heads up on a new virus
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>
http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.
>> A
>> 
>> --
>> Martin Tuip
>> MVP Exchange
>> Exchange 2000 List owner
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Trend 3.51 and Ex 5.5

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
I have submitted this to Trend, however I didn't know if anyone here had
experienced this before.  We are running Trend 3.51 and have the autoupdates
set to hourly.  They stopped working on the 30th, I can still do the manual
update but it doesn't show up in the log's.   The log has 2000 events in it.
Does anyone know how to clear the log file, under log maintenance it is
grayed out.
Thanks
Jeff

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OT-Exch-Trend 381 -IMSS - Lists?

2003-08-01 Thread Mellott, Bill
Does anyone know if there are any list's for the Trend suite?
Notability the Exchange piece 381 and/or IMSS 5x

thx
bill

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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Ward, Stuart
Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary
folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct?

Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the same
result?

Stu

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Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

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Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have no
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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Nick Field
No, but they do have it in their intelligent updater/xdb update if you use
NAV/SAV CE, it should be easy enough to roll out.

Nick


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  Symantec doesn't have the virusdef file that blocks this ready for live
update yet :-(


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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Tom Meunier
Sure they do.  They've had it for a few hours.

http://www.sarc.com/avcenter/defs.download.html 

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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Dave Vantine
I am not sure if this was simply bad typing but the file name was an
executable called foo (foo.exe)

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I received this earlier today and being the administrator I knew that I had
not sent myself this message. The message included a WinZip attachment which
was rather interesting to take apart. It turned out to be an html document
that directed the browser to go to a website and run a file foveae

-Dave Vantine

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http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.
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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Search Google for DumpsterAlwaysOn


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Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted'
from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not
appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have
no
backups whilst the item existed.

Thanks

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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Jim Helfer

  Symantec doesn't have the virusdef file that blocks this ready for live
update yet :-(


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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Dave Vantine
I received this earlier today and being the administrator I knew that I had
not sent myself this message. The message included a WinZip attachment which
was rather interesting to take apart. It turned out to be an html document
that directed the browser to go to a website and run a file foveae

-Dave Vantine

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http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.
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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Peter Orlowski
Anyone know what the IE system vulnerability is that that article describes?


- Peter

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Thanks Martin.  We are already seeing this virus hit our file filters.

Aaron

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RE: Attachments and the Priv

2003-08-01 Thread Bendall, Paul
This whole process is covered under Single Instance Storage functionality of
Exchange. Only one instance of a message exists with pointers for each user
that was sent the message. If you had three servers and the message was sent
to mailboxes on each server then you would have three instances in your
site. Check out www.swinc.com for the FAQ.

Paul

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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Attachments and the Priv


Hi,

I get asked this all the time and really have never figured it out.

Is there a link on MS about this or in a book somewhere.  I have not
been able to find it.

As an Exchange Admin I should know this - argh.

When an email with attachment gets sent to 'N' people does that
attachment stay in the store as one file or is it stored as 'N' files?



TIA,

Erik L. Vesneski
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RE: Attachments and the Priv

2003-08-01 Thread Jason Kane
What your referring to is Single Instance Storage...

http://www.storageadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=23819 

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Hi,

I get asked this all the time and really have never figured it out.

Is there a link on MS about this or in a book somewhere.  I have not
been able to find it.

As an Exchange Admin I should know this - argh.

When an email with attachment gets sent to 'N' people does that
attachment stay in the store as one file or is it stored as 'N' files?



TIA,

Erik L. Vesneski
WCDC Intel Lead/Sr. Systems Specialist
ISO - Intel Systems 
Ph#: 925-658-6161
www.pmigroup.com
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RE: Attachments and the Priv

2003-08-01 Thread Couch, Nate
It is stored as one file per store.  Hence the phrase  - single instance
storage.

Nate Couch
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> I get asked this all the time and really have never figured it out.
> 
> Is there a link on MS about this or in a book somewhere.  I have not
> been able to find it.
> 
> As an Exchange Admin I should know this - argh.
> 
> When an email with attachment gets sent to 'N' people does that
> attachment stay in the store as one file or is it stored as 'N' files?
> 
> 
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Erik L. Vesneski
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RE: Attachments and the Priv

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
SIS = only one copy until everyone deletes it.

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:21 PM
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Subject: Attachments and the Priv


Hi,

I get asked this all the time and really have never figured it out.

Is there a link on MS about this or in a book somewhere.  I have not
been able to find it.

As an Exchange Admin I should know this - argh.

When an email with attachment gets sent to 'N' people does that
attachment stay in the store as one file or is it stored as 'N' files?



TIA,

Erik L. Vesneski
WCDC Intel Lead/Sr. Systems Specialist
ISO - Intel Systems 
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Attachments and the Priv

2003-08-01 Thread Erik L. Vesneski
Hi,

I get asked this all the time and really have never figured it out.

Is there a link on MS about this or in a book somewhere.  I have not
been able to find it.

As an Exchange Admin I should know this - argh.

When an email with attachment gets sent to 'N' people does that
attachment stay in the store as one file or is it stored as 'N' files?



TIA,

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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Bailey, Matthew
Ditto.

- Matt

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We do, and hourly. Works great.

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> Just out of curiosity, who here uses trend and how often do 
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> 
> Just curious
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Re: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS02-015.asp


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> Anyone know what the IE system vulnerability is that that article
describes?
>
>
> - Peter
>
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> Thanks Martin.  We are already seeing this virus hit our file filters.
>
> Aaron
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>
>
http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.
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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Roger Seielstad
We do, and hourly. Works great.

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> 
> 
> Just out of curiosity, who here uses trend and how often do 
> you have it set to update?
> 
> Just curious
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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Aaron Brasslett
Thanks Martin.  We are already seeing this virus hit our file filters.

Aaron

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http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.
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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Bendall, Paul
We run Trend and automatically update every hour.

Paul

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Just out of curiosity, who here uses trend and how often do you have it set
to update?

Just curious

John Parker, MCSE
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Digital Display Systems.

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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
Thanks Martin, got the new definition but learned something strange at the
same time
Using Trend 3.52 with Ex5.5 SP4, NT4.0 SP6a and have the update set to every
hour and it has been working great.  I just checked to see what version we
were on and all should have been well but we were on 355 not 357, ran the
update manually and then checked the logs. By looking in the logs it seems
that trend stopped updating at 10pm on the 30th, even the manual update is
not showing up in the logs.  I am going to Trends site now, but was
wondering if any of you other users had seen this in the past.
Thanks
Jeff

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http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.
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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Bendall, Paul
Found the article it is 178630.

Regards,

Paul

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Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

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Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not appear
as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted items'.  I have no
backups whilst the item existed.

Thanks

Stu



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RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Bendall, Paul
Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange even if
you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on Microsoft website.
This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. It is
retrospective.

Regards,

Paul

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Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does not appear
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Thanks

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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread John Parker
Just out of curiosity, who here uses trend and how often do you have it set to update?

Just curious

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Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

2003-08-01 Thread Ward, Stuart
Ex5.5

I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' from
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RE: Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Couch, Nate
Already on it and blocked.  Thanks Martin.

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Heads up on a new virus

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_MIMAIL.A

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Re: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Tuip [MVP]
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From: "Crumbaker, Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 5:14 PM
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I won an Xbox game by filling out a survey at MEC.

Also, I won an Xbox at TechED one year.

:D


Thank you,

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Hopefully we all noted that on the wonderful evaluation forms (my evil
coworker got cash for doing one of those things, I've been each year
since 97 and on his first trip he gets money).  I will be the bad guy, I
am very pleased that they have joined MEC and Tech-Ed together, working
for a government agency I am not able to swing 2 big conferences a year.
I was getting ready to start swapping each year, now I don't have to.
While the rooms were packed I thought the content was very good, how did
it compare to the content of the past MEC's.


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All of the Exchange sessions were in the teensy tiny rooms in the back
ass end of the basement of the conference center.  Seating for 50.

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> What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact
> opposite.
>
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> I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
> Oh well.
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> > They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
> >
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> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
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> > Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
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> >
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> >
> > Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
> >
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RE: Several questions on E2k and Active Directory

2003-08-01 Thread Hague, Jeff
I actually waited about 18 hours (before I found the KB article that said you had to) 
and then rebooted it...

Jeff

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When you made the new DC a GC, did wait at least 5 minutes and then
reboot it?

Jason 

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> Single Exch2K SP3, Win2K AD Domain, several DCs/GCs in place.
> I am replacing a Win2K DC which happens to be 1 of 2 GCs and 
> holds all FSMO roles (among other things). Earlier this week, 
> I set up the replacement server, installed AD and transferred 
> all FSMO except PDC emulator. Yesterday I set the new DC as a 
> GC and removed GC from the old one. Apparently this has 
> caused Veritas Backup Exec (which also runs on the machine 
> that used to be a GC) to fail when trying to connect to the 
> E2K box for individual mailbox backups. Veritas suggests 
> making sure that the E2K machine itself is a GC which of 
> course means installing AD on it. They dont seem to offer any 
> other suggestions... As I got to thinking about it I figured 
> that would actually fit into my server layout pretty well. 
> Anyway, I have searched the knowledge base articles, read the 
> resource kit and searched back through a year of posts to 
> this discussion list and it looks like the cons for this 
> arrangement are performance and recovery. I dont have any 
> performance issues - the E2K box CPU peaks at 5% 
> occaisionally but is generally barely breathing and there is 
> on average nearly a gig of available RAM. Drive performance 
> is hardly utilized as well so that only leaves the recovery 
> issue. Is this simply that it is more difficult to recover a 
> server that does several things or is there something 
> specific to E2K that makes recovery more difficult if it is also a DC?
> Also, When I view the DCs on the Directory Access Tab of my 
> E2K servers properties, it list 1 machine as the 
> Configuration Domain Controller. I noticed that changed when 
> I removed GC from the original server. Does E2K pick that 
> machine from the "closest" DC or what? Will that change to 
> the E2K box itself if I make it a GC?
> Last question - Does anyone know of anything to look out for 
> if I do decide to make my E2K box a DC?
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff Hague
> MCSE
> Network Manager
> Randolph-Macon College
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RE: Several questions on E2k and Active Directory

2003-08-01 Thread Jason Clishe
When you made the new DC a GC, did wait at least 5 minutes and then
reboot it?

Jason 

> -Original Message-
> From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:19 PM
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> Subject: Several questions on E2k and Active Directory
> 
> Single Exch2K SP3, Win2K AD Domain, several DCs/GCs in place.
> I am replacing a Win2K DC which happens to be 1 of 2 GCs and 
> holds all FSMO roles (among other things). Earlier this week, 
> I set up the replacement server, installed AD and transferred 
> all FSMO except PDC emulator. Yesterday I set the new DC as a 
> GC and removed GC from the old one. Apparently this has 
> caused Veritas Backup Exec (which also runs on the machine 
> that used to be a GC) to fail when trying to connect to the 
> E2K box for individual mailbox backups. Veritas suggests 
> making sure that the E2K machine itself is a GC which of 
> course means installing AD on it. They dont seem to offer any 
> other suggestions... As I got to thinking about it I figured 
> that would actually fit into my server layout pretty well. 
> Anyway, I have searched the knowledge base articles, read the 
> resource kit and searched back through a year of posts to 
> this discussion list and it looks like the cons for this 
> arrangement are performance and recovery. I dont have any 
> performance issues - the E2K box CPU peaks at 5% 
> occaisionally but is generally barely breathing and there is 
> on average nearly a gig of available RAM. Drive performance 
> is hardly utilized as well so that only leaves the recovery 
> issue. Is this simply that it is more difficult to recover a 
> server that does several things or is there something 
> specific to E2K that makes recovery more difficult if it is also a DC?
> Also, When I view the DCs on the Directory Access Tab of my 
> E2K servers properties, it list 1 machine as the 
> Configuration Domain Controller. I noticed that changed when 
> I removed GC from the original server. Does E2K pick that 
> machine from the "closest" DC or what? Will that change to 
> the E2K box itself if I make it a GC?
> Last question - Does anyone know of anything to look out for 
> if I do decide to make my E2K box a DC?
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff Hague
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> Network Manager
> Randolph-Macon College
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Several questions on E2k and Active Directory

2003-08-01 Thread Hague, Jeff
Single Exch2K SP3, Win2K AD Domain, several DCs/GCs in place.
I am replacing a Win2K DC which happens to be 1 of 2 GCs and holds all FSMO roles 
(among other things). Earlier this week, I set up the replacement server, installed AD 
and transferred all FSMO except PDC emulator. Yesterday I set the new DC as a GC and 
removed GC from the old one. Apparently this has caused Veritas Backup Exec (which 
also runs on the machine that used to be a GC) to fail when trying to connect to the 
E2K box for individual mailbox backups. Veritas suggests making sure that the E2K 
machine itself is a GC which of course means installing AD on it. They dont seem to 
offer any other suggestions... As I got to thinking about it I figured that would 
actually fit into my server layout pretty well. Anyway, I have searched the knowledge 
base articles, read the resource kit and searched back through a year of posts to this 
discussion list and it looks like the cons for this arrangement are performance and 
recovery. I dont have any performance issues - the E2K box CPU peaks at 5% 
occaisionally but is generally barely breathing and there is on average nearly a gig 
of available RAM. Drive performance is hardly utilized as well so that only leaves the 
recovery issue. Is this simply that it is more difficult to recover a server that does 
several things or is there something specific to E2K that makes recovery more 
difficult if it is also a DC?
Also, When I view the DCs on the Directory Access Tab of my E2K servers properties, it 
list 1 machine as the Configuration Domain Controller. I noticed that changed when I 
removed GC from the original server. Does E2K pick that machine from the "closest" DC 
or what? Will that change to the E2K box itself if I make it a GC?
Last question - Does anyone know of anything to look out for if I do decide to make my 
E2K box a DC?
Thanks!

Jeff Hague
MCSE
Network Manager
Randolph-Macon College

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RE: Public Folder Question

2003-08-01 Thread Bridges, Samantha
I inherited Exchange.   Was like this when I got here.  I am dealing with
the problems because I will be doing the Exchange 2000 upgrade.

What do you mean...you boss must love you?  Are you making fun of my bad
situation?  My boss does love me because I haven't quit yet!

Samantha



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Subject: Re: Public Folder Question


A starting point. Although based on what you said happened then the orphan 
route is the way to go, as John stated. Your boss must love you.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259158



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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:32:31 -0400

Hello All.

I have a server in my Exchange 5.5 Organization that is no longer there.
The server has been rebuilt as something else and is not available anymore.


My question is this.  This server shows in the Exchange 5.5 Admin program
and I can't delete the objects under the public folder because it is looking
for the old server that the folders were created "Home" on.  I don't need
the public folders and want to delete them and the server from my
Organization.

Help??

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Re: Public Folder Question

2003-08-01 Thread Tony Hlabse
A starting point. Although based on what you said happened then the orphan 
route is the way to go, as John stated. Your boss must love you.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;259158



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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:32:31 -0400
Hello All.

I have a server in my Exchange 5.5 Organization that is no longer there.
The server has been rebuilt as something else and is not available anymore.
My question is this.  This server shows in the Exchange 5.5 Admin program
and I can't delete the objects under the public folder because it is looking
for the old server that the folders were created "Home" on.  I don't need
the public folders and want to delete them and the server from my
Organization.
Help??

s.

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Re: Public Folder Question

2003-08-01 Thread Tony Hlabse
Because you removed the server without rehoming PF's I think you out of 
luck. Most of what I know is that if you do not rehome first then move 
everything off that exchange server, you can not remove it. Maybe someone 
else on the list has run across this.

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Hello All.

I have a server in my Exchange 5.5 Organization that is no longer there.
The server has been rebuilt as something else and is not available anymore.
My question is this.  This server shows in the Exchange 5.5 Admin program
and I can't delete the objects under the public folder because it is looking
for the old server that the folders were created "Home" on.  I don't need
the public folders and want to delete them and the server from my
Organization.
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RE: Public Folder Question

2003-08-01 Thread John Matteson
Have you deleted the original Exchange server entry using the Exchange
admin tool?  That would be the first place to start.

Secondly, there are a few KB articles in TechNet that will help you
remove orphaned folders. Search for "Orphan Public folders" and select
Exchange 5.5 or "all products". That should be a good starting point for
your journey.

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



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Posted At: Friday, August 01, 2003 11:33 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
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Subject: Public Folder Question


Hello All.

I have a server in my Exchange 5.5 Organization that is no longer there.
The server has been rebuilt as something else and is not available
anymore.


My question is this.  This server shows in the Exchange 5.5 Admin
program and I can't delete the objects under the public folder because
it is looking for the old server that the folders were created "Home"
on.  I don't need the public folders and want to delete them and the
server from my Organization.  

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Public Folder Question

2003-08-01 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Hello All.

I have a server in my Exchange 5.5 Organization that is no longer there.
The server has been rebuilt as something else and is not available anymore.


My question is this.  This server shows in the Exchange 5.5 Admin program
and I can't delete the objects under the public folder because it is looking
for the old server that the folders were created "Home" on.  I don't need
the public folders and want to delete them and the server from my
Organization.  

Help??

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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Crumbaker, Ron
I won an Xbox game by filling out a survey at MEC.

Also, I won an Xbox at TechED one year.

:D


Thank you,
 
Ron Crumbaker, MCP


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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:51 AM
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Hopefully we all noted that on the wonderful evaluation forms (my evil
coworker got cash for doing one of those things, I've been each year
since 97 and on his first trip he gets money).  I will be the bad guy, I
am very pleased that they have joined MEC and Tech-Ed together, working
for a government agency I am not able to swing 2 big conferences a year.
I was getting ready to start swapping each year, now I don't have to.
While the rooms were packed I thought the content was very good, how did
it compare to the content of the past MEC's.


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


All of the Exchange sessions were in the teensy tiny rooms in the back
ass end of the basement of the conference center.  Seating for 50.

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
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> 
> 
> What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact 
> opposite.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
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> 
> I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
> Oh well.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:18 AM
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> 
> 
> > They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
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> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > MEC is no more... :-(
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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> > Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> >
> > Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
> >
> > Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was
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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
Hopefully we all noted that on the wonderful evaluation forms (my evil
coworker got cash for doing one of those things, I've been each year since
97 and on his first trip he gets money).  I will be the bad guy, I am very
pleased that they have joined MEC and Tech-Ed together, working for a
government agency I am not able to swing 2 big conferences a year.  I was
getting ready to start swapping each year, now I don't have to.  While the
rooms were packed I thought the content was very good, how did it compare to
the content of the past MEC's.


-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


All of the Exchange sessions were in the teensy tiny rooms in the back ass
end of the basement of the conference center.  Seating for 50.

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> 
> What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact
> opposite. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
> Oh well.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> 
> > They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > MEC is no more... :-(
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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> >
> >
> > Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
> >
> > Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was 
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RE: Friday Haiku

2003-08-01 Thread Busby, Jacob
Can't manage a Haiku today, but you might enjoy this one: 

NIGHT JOB
(With apologies to W H Auden)

This is the night job, a daily recorder
Making the checksums in batch process order
E-mail (rich-text), attachments galore
Backed up on tape drives, just to restore
Viruses detoxed, servers on-line
Innumerable bytes of multipart MIME
Past project reports grow steadily older
Shoving out whitespace for file and folder
Whirring noisily as she demos
An encyclopedia of corporate memos
Disks turn their heads, confessing each secret
Whilst hardware and software struggle to keep it
ASCII and EBCDIC, zeroes and ones
Transferred to storage in nightly job runs
So think of the backups, now before later,
Keep them efficient and delete some damn data!

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 01 August 2003 15:51
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Friday Haiku


MECC was great. 
I met a succubus there.
After a long bender.

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Re: Archiving Methods?

2003-08-01 Thread Chris Scharff
"Best" and "PST" don't really belong in the same conversation, unless the
question is "What's the best way to make sure that compliance with discovery
requests will cost my company a fortune?"

On 07/31/03 20:11, "Eric Holtzclaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> What is the best Archiving tool for Exchange 2000 mailboxes that are
> over 2 Gig?
> Needs to archived in a PST by date. Either Client or Server based.
> 
> Thanks, Eric


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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Erik Sojka
All of the Exchange sessions were in the teensy tiny rooms in the back ass
end of the basement of the conference center.  Seating for 50.

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> 
> What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact
> opposite. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
> Oh well.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:18 AM
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> 
> > They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > MEC is no more... :-(
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> >
> > Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
> >
> > Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was 
> presented earlier in
> > the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my 
> own question? I
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Friday Haiku

2003-08-01 Thread Tim Ault
MECC was great. 
I met a succubus there.
After a long bender.

(double-entendre unavoidable. so sorry.)



Tim.
x3683


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MECC 2003 Venue


I spent most of the week sitting down.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


> What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact 
> opposite.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
> Oh well.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:18 AM
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
>
>
> > They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > MEC is no more... :-(
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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> > Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> >
> > Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
> >
> > Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented 
> > earlier
in
> > the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own 
> > question?
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RE: Strange calendar problems - Exchange 2000, Outlook 2002

2003-08-01 Thread Steve Sorenson
Chris,

Thanks for the response. I checked, and no, the user doesn't have mail
delivered to a PST. The only PST in use is ARCHIVE.PST. Mail goes
straight to the users' mailbox on exchange.

Steve  

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> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:28 PM
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> 
> Does the recipient have mail delivery set to a PST file?
> 
> On 07/25/03 14:39, "Steve Sorenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > We are having a strange problem with one user's (we'll call 
> her "User
> > A") calendar and specifically with meeting requests. Here is the
> > scenario:
> > 
> > 1) User A sends invitation to User B for a meeting.
> > 2) User B accepts invitation.
> > 3) A short while later (the time varies), User A will receive a 
> > meeting cancellation of that meeting.
> > 4) A check of User B's "Sent Items" folder shows a 
> cancellation even 
> > though they never issued the cancellation.
> > 
> > This has happened to User A at least a half-dozen times, and is not 
> > with any specific recipient. Also, they have been able to send many 
> > other successful meeting requests. This is on Exchange 2000 
> SP3 with 
> > Outlook
> > 2002 on an all Windows 2000 network. Also, this is not happening to 
> > other users.
> > 
> > Here's some of what I've tried so far:
> > 
> > 1) I've checked the recipients' workstations for any 
> auto-cancel rules 
> > and found none.
> > 2) I've scanned the workstation for viruses and found none.
> > 3) Searched MS's knowledgebase and read anything I could find on 
> > canceled meetings.
> > 4) Tried starting Outlook with the /celanfreebusy and 
> /cleanreminders 
> > switches.
> > 
> > Any ideas?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Erik Sojka
MEC is dead.  Long live MEC.  

The Fall 2002 Conference in Anaheim was the last Exchange-centric conference.
MEC content has been rolled into TechEd.  

TechEd 2004 will be in San Diego.  Whether or not TechEd is a suitable
replacement for MEC is up to the longtime attendees to decide.  

> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
> 
> 
> Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 
> 
> Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was 
> presented earlier in
> the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my 
> own question? I
> see nuthin on MS' site.
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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread John Matteson
Down at OPB?

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.



-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:15 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: MECC 2003 Venue
Subject: Re: MECC 2003 Venue


Perfect Sleeping weather for Martin.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


> It will be TechEd, and its SD
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
>
> Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier

> in the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own 
> question? I see nuthin on MS' site.
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RE: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
Thanks, our plan is to do a single Saturday migration, however in light of
Murphy I'll probably go ahead and do the connector just as a cma procedure.

-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd


If you need to co-exist with some users on 5.5 and some on 2003 then the ADC
keeps the Exchange 5.5 directory and your new Active Directory synchronised
and ensures that you can route mail between the two. If you can migrate in a
single hit then you don't need it. 

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 August 2003 12:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd


I have been reading up on the AD connector for exchange and what I need to
do etc.  However I was wondering if I really need it at all.  We are doing a
new AD design and trusting back to our 4.0 domain then using the ADMIT tool
to migrate users/computers and passwords over to the new domain structure
(going from two to one).  My thinking today has jumped over to the why do I
even need to worry about the connector and upgrading exchange since part of
this entire conversion is new exchange hardware anyway.  We are going to
wait until this fall and go right to Ex2K3 from 5.5 and skip over Ex2K. So
here is my thinking, if I leave the old server alone, running on 4.0 in the
old domain, then when 2K3 is released and I get the software build a new
server in the AD on Win2K3.  Wouldn't I be able to join that to the 5.5
organization and move the users over to the new server.  Decommission the
old server and remove the 4.0 infrastructure?
 

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RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Bill Kuhl
Guess this goes to show the value of researching throughly before making decisions.

So far I am not impressed with the Office part. Tried copying some text from a web 
page and it crashed Word 2002 everytime. The recovery did not work. Pasting to Wordpad 
worked fine. Another web page pasted fine.

Thanks again, we will look into volume license.

Bill Kuhl



-Original Message-
From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


Talk nicely to Dell. They may be able to convert them to a volume licensing
agreement for you and issue you a corporate license number. Else your into
reactivating every time you change more than two hardware items at the same
time (or is it three), or rebuilding a machine. Not nice.

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 August 2003 13:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We received new Dell pc's with the software pre-loaded. 

>From your comment I assume that there is a method from loading from a server
and bypass activation.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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Re: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
I spent most of the week sitting down.

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> What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact
> opposite.
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:21 AM
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>
> I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
> Oh well.
>
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>
> > They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
> >
> > Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > MEC is no more... :-(
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> >
> >
> > Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
> >
> > Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier
in
> > the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question?
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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
What was it? Like 70% IT and 30% dev, but the classes were the exact
opposite. 

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I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
Oh well.

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> They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
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>
> MEC is no more... :-(
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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> Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
>
>
> Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
>
> Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
> the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question? I
> see nuthin on MS' site.
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Re: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
I'd prefer a rolled taco with MEC separate again.
Oh well.

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> They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> MEC is no more... :-(
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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> Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
>
>
> Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
>
> Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
> the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question? I
> see nuthin on MS' site.
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RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
You're out of luck 

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We received new Dell pc's with the software pre-loaded. 

>From your comment I assume that there is a method from loading from a server
and bypass activation.


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Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
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After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Midgley, Ian
Talk nicely to Dell. They may be able to convert them to a volume licensing
agreement for you and issue you a corporate license number. Else your into
reactivating every time you change more than two hardware items at the same
time (or is it three), or rebuilding a machine. Not nice.

-Original Message-
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Sent: 01 August 2003 13:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We received new Dell pc's with the software pre-loaded. 

>From your comment I assume that there is a method from loading from a server
and bypass activation.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
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After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
Aye 

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

In that instance, you may have to. We dont typically buy with the Office
software pre-loaded.

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We received new Dell pc's with the software pre-loaded.

>From your comment I assume that there is a method from loading from a
server and bypass activation.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
Madre De Dios! 

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Perfect Sleeping weather for Martin.

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> It will be TechEd, and its SD
>
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> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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> Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
They rolled MEC and TechEd into one conference. 

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue

Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?



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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue

MEC is no more... :-(

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Ault
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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Subject: MECC 2003 Venue


Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
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see nuthin on MS' site.

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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Tim Ault
So my prediction--made years ago--came true at last.

Some prediction: a senior exchange project mgmt dude I met at MECC 2001 said
that there would be no more MECCs.. meaning, no MECC 2002. Right. 


Tim.
x3683


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Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


MEC is no more... :-(

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Subject: MECC 2003 Venue


Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question? I
see nuthin on MS' site.

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Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
In that instance, you may have to. We dont typically buy with the Office
software pre-loaded.

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Subject: RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We received new Dell pc's with the software pre-loaded.

>From your comment I assume that there is a method from loading from a
server and bypass activation.


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Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I guess they think Exchange folks need to learn something they don't
know yet.


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Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue

I was told by MS that they want the Exchange folks to go to Teched.

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Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?



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Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue

MEC is no more... :-(

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Subject: MECC 2003 Venue


Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

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Re: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
Perfect Sleeping weather for Martin.

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Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


> It will be TechEd, and its SD
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: MECC 2003 Venue
>
> Anyone know which city will host MECC this year?
>
> Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
> the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question? I
> see nuthin on MS' site.
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RE: multiple OWA servers

2003-08-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
I have used windows load-balancing with 2 front-end OWA servers for 3+
years, serving ~3000 users. Never had any problems.

Also I have 3 SMTP gateways that are load-balanced and handle ~1,000,000
messages per day each - load-balancing is performing quite well.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: multiple OWA servers

You can depend on round-robin DNS to do this, or implement Windows
Network
Load Balancing or, preferably, a hardware load balancing device to take
care
of this for you.

Round-robin DNS will effectively balance load but doesn't tolerate
failures,
i.e., if one of two front-end servers fail, about one in two requests
will
fail.  Load balancing is fault tolerant.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T

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Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:44 PM
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Subject: multiple OWA servers

I was looking a bit and didn't see anything on this but was curious. If
you
have mutiple OWA front-end servers (E2K) and when you publish the url
for
users to access their email via the web client. How Exchange handles
which
user get which server. Do they all hit the default OWA server and it
just
knows which OWA server handles that user mailbox?  I never saw this
explained very well. Has anybody seen a write-up on this and could
forward a
link for this. Also an install guide for this type of config.

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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Lalor, Kevin
I was told by MS that they want the Exchange folks to go to Teched.

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Andrey
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:12 AM
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Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue


Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?



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From: Lalor, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue

MEC is no more... :-(

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Subject: MECC 2003 Venue


Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Does this mean that Exchange is out of favor?



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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MECC 2003 Venue

MEC is no more... :-(

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
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Subject: MECC 2003 Venue


Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

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RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Bill Kuhl
We received new Dell pc's with the software pre-loaded. 

>From your comment I assume that there is a method from loading from a server and 
>bypass activation.


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Lalor, Kevin
MEC is no more... :-(

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Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MECC 2003 Venue


Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

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RE: MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
It will be TechEd, and its SD 

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 7:04 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: MECC 2003 Venue

Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question? I
see nuthin on MS' site.

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MECC 2003 Venue

2003-08-01 Thread Tim Ault
Anyone know which city will host MECC this year? 

Traditionally, the event is located where TechEd was presented earlier in
the year--in this case, San Diego. Have I thus answered my own question? I
see nuthin on MS' site.

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RE: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Martin Blackstone
Don't buy retail copies. Get a corp lic and one media and use the same on
all. No activation required.
Plus you will find it is cheaper to buy. 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

Bill Kuhl


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RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Bridges, Samantha
It Worked!  Wooo Hooo.  Q273478 did the job!  Thanks to everyone!

Thank God It Is Friday!

Samantha

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From: Midgley, Ian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:27 AM
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Subject: RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


Did you carefully follow all steps in Q273478 - XADM: How to Completely
Remove Exchange 2000 from Active Directory?

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 August 2003 13:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


Yes.  When I ran the /removeorg, it said:

Setup cannot update your current installation, because there is no Microsoft
Exchange server installed.

Even though it said that, I tried to re-run the ForestPrep and still didn't
get the option to join an existing 5.5.  

What am I doing wrong?  Please help if you can.

Thanks

Samantha

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From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
/removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?


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Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


> I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
setup
> and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried 
> re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me 
> the option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
>
> Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Samantha
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Re: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
Why will you be activating the software? Are these all retail copies?


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From: "Bill Kuhl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro


We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the
rest of the Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of
concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a
hard drive dies?

Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

Thanks,

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Outlook Upgrade to XP Pro

2003-08-01 Thread Bill Kuhl
We are looking at upgrading from Outlook 98 to Outlook 2002 as well as the rest of the 
Office programs from the 97 versions.  I have a couple of concerns:

After you activate the software, what procedure do you go through when a hard drive 
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Also, does the Save My Settings Wizard work with Outlook 2002 as well?

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RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Thanks guys!  I am going to try a few drastic measures and after that the
"blow-up" idea sounds good.  It is just a testbed

Thanks for all your help.  If you come up with any new ideas, send them my
way.

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help



It's Friday. I would go with the blow-up version.

From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:28:09 -0400

Is this a test lab? Blow it up and restart or search in Technet on how to
manually remove Exch from AD.

- Original Message -
From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


 > Yes.  When I ran the /removeorg, it said:
 >
 > Setup cannot update your current installation, because there is no
Microsoft
 > Exchange server installed.
 >
 > Even though it said that, I tried to re-run the ForestPrep and still
didn't
 > get the option to join an existing 5.5.
 >
 > What am I doing wrong?  Please help if you can.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > Samantha
 >
 > -Original Message-
 > From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:24 AM
 > To: Exchange Discussions
 > Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
 >
 >
 > Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
 > /removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?
 >
 >
 > - Original Message -
 > From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:18 AM
 > Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
 >
 >
 > > I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
 > setup
 > > and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried
 > > re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me the
 > > option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
 > >
 > > Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
 > >
 > > Thanks
 > >
 > >
 > > Samantha
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RE: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
They also changed the licensing in W2k3 terminal server, not sure I like
their reason for doing that little change.  
I figured their reason was for sites doing an in-place upgrade, but not yet
ready to make the exchange conversion, however I'm doing a parallel
conversion so I was just wondering if the ADC was needed.  I have checked
the documentation, and am in the process of doing it again, but only to see
if I really need it at all.  I know it will work through the trust
relationship as I have it running in the lab with out the ADC and my AD
users have accounts on the 4.0/5.5 server.
Thanks
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd


Those were probably Microsoft's original plans but then for some reason
they invented ADC. Must have been a good reason.



-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

I have been reading up on the AD connector for exchange and what I need
to
do etc.  However I was wondering if I really need it at all.  We are
doing a
new AD design and trusting back to our 4.0 domain then using the ADMIT
tool
to migrate users/computers and passwords over to the new domain
structure
(going from two to one).  My thinking today has jumped over to the why
do I
even need to worry about the connector and upgrading exchange since part
of
this entire conversion is new exchange hardware anyway.  We are going to
wait until this fall and go right to Ex2K3 from 5.5 and skip over Ex2K.
So here is my thinking, if I leave the old server alone, running on 4.0
in
the old domain, then when 2K3 is released and I get the software build a
new
server in the AD on Win2K3.  Wouldn't I be able to join that to the 5.5
organization and move the users over to the new server.  Decommission
the
old server and remove the 4.0 infrastructure?
 

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Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Tony Hlabse
It's Friday. I would go with the blow-up version.

From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 09:28:09 -0400
Is this a test lab? Blow it up and restart or search in Technet on how to
manually remove Exch from AD.
- Original Message -
From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
> Yes.  When I ran the /removeorg, it said:
>
> Setup cannot update your current installation, because there is no
Microsoft
> Exchange server installed.
>
> Even though it said that, I tried to re-run the ForestPrep and still
didn't
> get the option to join an existing 5.5.
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Please help if you can.
>
> Thanks
>
> Samantha
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
>
>
> Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
> /removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:18 AM
> Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
>
>
> > I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
> setup
> > and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried
> > re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me the
> > option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
> >
> > Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Samantha
> >
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Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
Is this a test lab? Blow it up and restart or search in Technet on how to
manually remove Exch from AD.

- Original Message - 
From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


> Yes.  When I ran the /removeorg, it said:
>
> Setup cannot update your current installation, because there is no
Microsoft
> Exchange server installed.
>
> Even though it said that, I tried to re-run the ForestPrep and still
didn't
> get the option to join an existing 5.5.
>
> What am I doing wrong?  Please help if you can.
>
> Thanks
>
> Samantha
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:24 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
>
>
> Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
> /removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:18 AM
> Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help
>
>
> > I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
> setup
> > and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried
> > re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me the
> > option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
> >
> > Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Samantha
> >
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RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Midgley, Ian
Did you carefully follow all steps in Q273478 - XADM: How to Completely
Remove Exchange 2000 from Active Directory?

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 August 2003 13:13
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


Yes.  When I ran the /removeorg, it said:

Setup cannot update your current installation, because there is no Microsoft
Exchange server installed.

Even though it said that, I tried to re-run the ForestPrep and still didn't
get the option to join an existing 5.5.  

What am I doing wrong?  Please help if you can.

Thanks

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
/removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?


- Original Message - 
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


> I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
setup
> and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried 
> re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me 
> the option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
>
> Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Samantha
>
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RE: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

2003-08-01 Thread Midgley, Ian
If you need to co-exist with some users on 5.5 and some on 2003 then the ADC
keeps the Exchange 5.5 directory and your new Active Directory synchronised
and ensures that you can route mail between the two. If you can migrate in a
single hit then you don't need it. 

-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 August 2003 12:30
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd


I have been reading up on the AD connector for exchange and what I need to
do etc.  However I was wondering if I really need it at all.  We are doing a
new AD design and trusting back to our 4.0 domain then using the ADMIT tool
to migrate users/computers and passwords over to the new domain structure
(going from two to one).  My thinking today has jumped over to the why do I
even need to worry about the connector and upgrading exchange since part of
this entire conversion is new exchange hardware anyway.  We are going to
wait until this fall and go right to Ex2K3 from 5.5 and skip over Ex2K. So
here is my thinking, if I leave the old server alone, running on 4.0 in the
old domain, then when 2K3 is released and I get the software build a new
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organization and move the users over to the new server.  Decommission the
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RE: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Bridges, Samantha
Yes.  When I ran the /removeorg, it said:

Setup cannot update your current installation, because there is no Microsoft
Exchange server installed.

Even though it said that, I tried to re-run the ForestPrep and still didn't
get the option to join an existing 5.5.  

What am I doing wrong?  Please help if you can.

Thanks

Samantha

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
/removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?


- Original Message - 
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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


> I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
setup
> and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried
> re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me the
> option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
>
> Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Samantha
>
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RE: multiple OWA servers

2003-08-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Each front-end server is separate. Each front-end server can figure out
what back-end server is holding the user's mailbox and will know how to
proxy the user to the correct back-end.

You could load-balance the front-end servers and make them respond the
the same IP address and FQDN.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:44 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: multiple OWA servers

I was looking a bit and didn't see anything on this but was curious. If
you 
have mutiple OWA front-end servers (E2K) and when you publish the url
for 
users to access their email via the web client. How Exchange handles
which 
user get which server. Do they all hit the default OWA server and it
just 
knows which OWA server handles that user mailbox?  I never saw this 
explained very well. Has anybody seen a write-up on this and could
forward a 
link for this. Also an install guide for this type of config.

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RE: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

2003-08-01 Thread Fyodorov, Andrey
Those were probably Microsoft's original plans but then for some reason
they invented ADC. Must have been a good reason.



-Original Message-
From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

I have been reading up on the AD connector for exchange and what I need
to
do etc.  However I was wondering if I really need it at all.  We are
doing a
new AD design and trusting back to our 4.0 domain then using the ADMIT
tool
to migrate users/computers and passwords over to the new domain
structure
(going from two to one).  My thinking today has jumped over to the why
do I
even need to worry about the connector and upgrading exchange since part
of
this entire conversion is new exchange hardware anyway.  We are going to
wait until this fall and go right to Ex2K3 from 5.5 and skip over Ex2K.
So here is my thinking, if I leave the old server alone, running on 4.0
in
the old domain, then when 2K3 is released and I get the software build a
new
server in the AD on Win2K3.  Wouldn't I be able to join that to the 5.5
organization and move the users over to the new server.  Decommission
the
old server and remove the 4.0 infrastructure?
 

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Upgrading thoughts from the been there done that crowd

2003-08-01 Thread Waters, Jeff
I have been reading up on the AD connector for exchange and what I need to
do etc.  However I was wondering if I really need it at all.  We are doing a
new AD design and trusting back to our 4.0 domain then using the ADMIT tool
to migrate users/computers and passwords over to the new domain structure
(going from two to one).  My thinking today has jumped over to the why do I
even need to worry about the connector and upgrading exchange since part of
this entire conversion is new exchange hardware anyway.  We are going to
wait until this fall and go right to Ex2K3 from 5.5 and skip over Ex2K.
So here is my thinking, if I leave the old server alone, running on 4.0 in
the old domain, then when 2K3 is released and I get the software build a new
server in the AD on Win2K3.  Wouldn't I be able to join that to the 5.5
organization and move the users over to the new server.  Decommission the
old server and remove the 4.0 infrastructure?
 

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Re: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Andy David
Did you follow Mr. Webb's advice from yesterday and run  "update.exe
/removeorg"  from the Exch SP3 media?


- Original Message - 
From: "Bridges, Samantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 8:18 AM
Subject: ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help


> I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the
setup
> and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried
> re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me the
> option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.
>
> Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Samantha
>
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ForestPrep/Domainprep Question - Please help

2003-08-01 Thread Bridges, Samantha
I need to re-install ForestPrep.  I chose the wrong option during the setup
and need to re-run to accept the correct setting.  When I tried
re-installing it, it just went through the setup and didn't give me the
option to Create a new organization or join an existing 5.5.

Know of a way to uninstall ForestPrep?  Or have any other ideas?

Thanks


Samantha

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RE: SPAMERS hitting my second MX record?

2003-08-01 Thread Roger Seielstad
I don't know - we run the exact same configs on all our external relays, so
if one rejects it, all 4 will.

Then again, when you're using 100% open source software on 100% recycled
desktop machines as mail relays, cost isn't much of a factor.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: PF: Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 8:30 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: SPAMERS hitting my second MX record?
> 
> 
> > My first MX record is to dDoxs. My second is to my email 
> > gateway, in case eDoxs is down. I'm wondering if spammers can 
> > pick up on my second MX record and send directly to it.
> 
> Actually, it's very common for spammers to start at your 
> lower priority
> MX records.  It makes sense for exactly the reason you specified.
> Companies rarely put the expensive anti-spam software on 
> their secondary
> MX relays.
> 
> Ed recommended using a relay to HOLD the mail until the primary is
> available again.  This method works great provided that most of your
> filtering is not done by RBL/SPAM listings (because the source IP has
> changed.)
> 
> -Kevin
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RE: SPAMERS hitting my second MX record?

2003-08-01 Thread Roger Seielstad
Think about how SMTP works, and you'll get the answer.

In other words, yes. Your primary rejects the message (or the connection in
some cases), so the sending MTA correctly identifies that as a failure, and
tries the next highest MX - in your case, your gateway.

I've got 4 external MX's with ascending preferences, and I start with the
highest preference one to see what spammers are up to..

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Orin Rehorst [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:34 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: SPAMERS hitting my second MX record?
> 
> 
> I use eDoxs (3rd party company that identifies spam. They use 
> Brightmail). 
> 
> Getting a lot of spam, however. 
> 
> My first MX record is to dDoxs. My second is to my email 
> gateway, in case eDoxs is down. I'm wondering if spammers can 
> pick up on my second MX record and send directly to it.
> 
> Please advise.
> 
> TIA
> 
> Regards, 
> Orin
> 
> 
> 
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