RE: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
It's worth subscribing, in my opinion.
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H
(Jim)
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
Can't read it...subscriber only article.
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From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/40021/40021.html
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
Hello.
Is it possible to send an appointment to an Outlook user in an external
Exchange organization? If I send a meeting request to an external Exchange
organization, how does the recipient respond? Will they have the option to
accept/tentative/deny? Will the appointment "act" differently then when
sending an appointment within your own exchange organization?
I have a user who recieved an appointment from an Outlook user from an
external Exchange organization. She accepted the meeting request and it was
scheduled on her calendar. I didn't think this was possilbe without proper
permissions or "trusts" between Exchange organizations in separate
Forests???
Thanks for any help or clarification.
Samantha
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RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
I didn't think I was that bad. 0 0 | \_/ just kidding it wasn't me honest >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/12/2003 11:59:46 a.m. >>> He was an idiot. When started ordering dual-processor pro workstations for secretaries, the handwirting was on the wall. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 He was fired even though the server has not crashed?! Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 So I take it that your predecessor wasn't very far up on that chain either? -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 That only works when you are far enough up the food chain to NOT get fired when the mail server crashes. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then han
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
He was an idiot. When started ordering dual-processor pro workstations for secretaries, the handwirting was on the wall. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 He was fired even though the server has not crashed?! Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 So I take it that your predecessor wasn't very far up on that chain either? -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 That only works when you are far enough up the food chain to NOT get fired when the mail server crashes. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backu
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
He got fired because he pissed off everyone around him and then passed blame out like pancakes when stuff started rolling downhill. I belive that God has saved my life, but not my job. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 3:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 So I take it that your predecessor wasn't very far up on that chain either? -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 That only works when you are far enough up the food chain to NOT get fired when the mail server crashes. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Hi, I also use BE 8.5 on a Exchange 5.5 NT server. I tried a BLB and I am able to restore individual mailboxs. Do you still need help with this? Did you have a good backups? Do you have the exchange agent? Nathaniel Dean EVMS Health Services 721 Fairfax Ave 101 Norfolk VA 23507 757-446-0317 -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.541 / Virus Database: 335 - Release Date: 11/14/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.542 / Virus Database: 336 - Release Date: 11/18/2003 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RUS problems.
You would not be using Outlook 2003 in cached mode would you? > Exchange 2k sp3 > > > I have a weird problem with my exchange 2000 RUS. When I create a new > Distribution Group and let the RUS do its thing, the group doesn't show > up in the default GAL. Even though the RUS stamped it with all the > correct attributes that the Default GAL is looking for. There is a flip > side to that. I have custom address lists under the default GAL with > custom LDAP queries on them to pull groups and users. If I go to that > specific address list it shows up there, but again, not in the default > GAL. Another thing, if I do a preview of the GAL in ESM, the group > shows up there. It finally shows up if I go back and edit any part of > the group. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
He was fired even though the server has not crashed?! Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 So I take it that your predecessor wasn't very far up on that chain either? -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 That only works when you are far enough up the food chain to NOT get fired when the mail server crashes. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange
RE: Technical Chat tomorrow on Clustering w/Exchange 2003
Bring your anti-clustering arguments :) Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 4:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Technical Chat tomorrow on Clustering w/Exchange 2003 Using Clustering with Exchange 2003 This chat focuses on the "Using Clustering with Exchange 2003: An Example" white paper posted at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/deploy/de popt /scenep2.asp. The paper identifies how Microsoft(r) uses clustering to manage the Exchange servers that provide messaging. The paper also provides detailed information about the hardware, software, cluster configuration and best practices for using server clusters. To participate go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/chats/default.mspx Martin Blackstone Director, Information Technologies Microsoft Windows Server Systems - Exchange MVP Superior Access Insurance Services 949.470.2111 x279 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
So I take it that your predecessor wasn't very far up on that chain either? -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 2:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 That only works when you are far enough up the food chain to NOT get fired when the mail server crashes. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Technical Chat tomorrow on Clustering w/Exchange 2003
Using Clustering with Exchange 2003 This chat focuses on the "Using Clustering with Exchange 2003: An Example" white paper posted at http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/deploy/depopt /scenep2.asp. The paper identifies how Microsoft(r) uses clustering to manage the Exchange servers that provide messaging. The paper also provides detailed information about the hardware, software, cluster configuration and best practices for using server clusters. To participate go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/chats/default.mspx Martin Blackstone Director, Information Technologies Microsoft Windows Server Systems - Exchange MVP Superior Access Insurance Services 949.470.2111 x279 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
That only works when you are far enough up the food chain to NOT get fired when the mail server crashes. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mo
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Crossing fingers and praying is pretty cheap in my book ;) -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ:
KMS W2K
All, Quick question. I've installed KMS on my test bed. I'm working on setting up S/MIME in a test scenario. Ok, I'm going to skip to the point. When a user enrolls and it's sent to the KMS server it says it will process your request and send a message back to the user who is issuing that request. Now, is there anything at this point that the KMS admin needs to do? Or does this request transcation done automatically by the KMS server? The reason I'm wondering is because I'm waiting for the approval and nothing is happening. Any thoughts? Thanks, _ John Bowles Exchange Engineer OIG/HHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Yes, they do, actually. The problem is that my employer had no idea how bad their mail infrastructure (and everything else, for that matter) had gotten. They had no idea that their mail server was not being backed up. The problem is that my IT budget will not become effective until Jan 1. 04. I'm doing what I can to get by until the new year. As far as the brick backups, I am not a big supporter of this, but it was requested that I have the ability to restore individual mailboxes. After reading Ed "never restore" method, I'm a changed man! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:49 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 "This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
"This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups." Do they expect you to pull miracles out of your you-know-what? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
You could give ExMerge a shot if you insist on individual mailbox backup. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: h
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
So now you see with your own eyes that you should not rely on brick level backups. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It's raining Manna! Hallelujah! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That's like manna from heaven! > > Thanks Erik. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and Disaster > Recovery Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. > > Then read it again. > > If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively unlikely > occurrence if you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in > the > FAQ) you can do > the full restore to another server, then extract out the > needed mailbox and > merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. > > Read the Whitepaper! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes their > > inbox and then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 > > week > retention > > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) because > > it was set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > > was made, right? > > > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any better > > one's at the moment. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole > > store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and > > running a heck of a lot > > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any > > moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID > > drives. > > All it takes is > > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private > store and I am > > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are > > large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > > Backup-to-disk > > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > > Yes, I know I > > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > > the exchange > > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick > > level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until > > Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > > since it was > > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > > box could tank at > > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > > cannot get it > > until then. > > > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > > > > Eri
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
An exchange admin AND a sense of humor. Watch out ladies! WooT! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Is this what Manna is? http://theory.stanford.edu/people/zm/ From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:26:56 -0500 It's raining Manna! Hallelujah! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That's like manna from heaven! > > Thanks Erik. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and > Disaster Recovery > Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. > > Then read it again. > > If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively > unlikely occurrence if > you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in the > FAQ) you can do > the full restore to another server, then extract out the > needed mailbox and > merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. > > Read the Whitepaper! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > > their inbox and > > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week > retention > > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > > because it was > > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > > was made, right? > > > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > > better one's at > > the moment. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > > whole store at > > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > > a heck of a lot > > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > > any moment. This > > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > > All it takes is > > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private > store and I am > > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > > are large > > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > > Backup-to-disk > > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > > Yes, I know I > > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > > the exchange > > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use > > brick level > > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > > money until Jan. > > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > > since it was >
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
-Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It's raining Manna! Hallelujah! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That's like manna from heaven! > > Thanks Erik. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and > Disaster Recovery > Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. > > Then read it again. > > If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively > unlikely occurrence if > you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in the > FAQ) you can do > the full restore to another server, then extract out the > needed mailbox and > merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. > > Read the Whitepaper! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes their > > inbox and then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 > > week > retention > > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > > because it was > > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > > was made, right? > > > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any better > > one's at the moment. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole > > store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and > > running a heck of a lot > > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any > > moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID > > drives. > > All it takes is > > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private > store and I am > > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > > are large > > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > > Backup-to-disk > > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > > Yes, I know I > > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > > the exchange > > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick > > level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until > > Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > > since it was > > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > > box could tank at > > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > > cannot get it > > until then. > > > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > > To:
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Is this what Manna is? http://theory.stanford.edu/people/zm/ From: "Erik Sojka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:26:56 -0500 It's raining Manna! Hallelujah! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That's like manna from heaven! > > Thanks Erik. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and > Disaster Recovery > Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. > > Then read it again. > > If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively > unlikely occurrence if > you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in the > FAQ) you can do > the full restore to another server, then extract out the > needed mailbox and > merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. > > Read the Whitepaper! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > > their inbox and > > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week > retention > > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > > because it was > > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > > was made, right? > > > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > > better one's at > > the moment. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > > whole store at > > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > > a heck of a lot > > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > > any moment. This > > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > > All it takes is > > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private > store and I am > > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > > are large > > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > > Backup-to-disk > > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > > Yes, I know I > > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > > the exchange > > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use > > brick level > > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > > money until Jan. > > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > > since it was > > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > > box could tank at > > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > > cannot get it > > until then. > > > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Se
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
It's raining Manna! Hallelujah! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:20 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That's like manna from heaven! > > Thanks Erik. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and > Disaster Recovery > Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. > > Then read it again. > > If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively > unlikely occurrence if > you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in the > FAQ) you can do > the full restore to another server, then extract out the > needed mailbox and > merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. > > Read the Whitepaper! > > > -Original Message- > > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > > their inbox and > > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week > retention > > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > > because it was > > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > > was made, right? > > > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > > better one's at > > the moment. > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > > whole store at > > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > > a heck of a lot > > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > > any moment. This > > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > > All it takes is > > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private > store and I am > > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > > are large > > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > > Backup-to-disk > > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > > Yes, I know I > > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > > the exchange > > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use > > brick level > > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > > money until Jan. > > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > > since it was > > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > > box could tank at > > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > > cannot get it > > until then. > > > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > > > > Eric Fretz > > > > L-3 Communications > > ComCept Division > > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > > Rockwall, TX 75032 > > tel: 972.772.7501 > > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > > great big kludg
RE: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
Can't read it...subscriber only article.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:09 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/40021/40021.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 6:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sending meeting requests to external Exchange/Outlook users
Hello.
Is it possible to send an appointment to an Outlook user in an external
Exchange organization? If I send a meeting request to an external Exchange
organization, how does the recipient respond? Will they have the option to
accept/tentative/deny? Will the appointment "act" differently then when
sending an appointment within your own exchange organization?
I have a user who recieved an appointment from an Outlook user from an
external Exchange organization. She accepted the meeting request and it was
scheduled on her calendar. I didn't think this was possilbe without proper
permissions or "trusts" between Exchange organizations in separate
Forests???
Thanks for any help or clarification.
Samantha
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RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
That's like manna from heaven! Thanks Erik. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. Then read it again. If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively unlikely occurrence if you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in the FAQ) you can do the full restore to another server, then extract out the needed mailbox and merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. Read the Whitepaper! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > their inbox and > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > because it was > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > was made, right? > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > better one's at > the moment. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > whole store at > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > a heck of a lot > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > any moment. This > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > All it takes is > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > are large > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > Backup-to-disk > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > Yes, I know I > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > the exchange > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use > brick level > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > money until Jan. > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > since it was > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > box could tank at > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > cannot get it > until then. > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > great big kludgy > crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > Exchange environment > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > For those of you with
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Yes, circular logging is enabled because the arse's that orginally set this box up were too cheap to purchase enough diskspace to keep a fair amount of logs. I am shocked and amazed that the box has run this long without a failure, which is mostly why I fear it will tank any day now. I do not believe that Exchange itself will fail, but rather a server disk, power supply, etc Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You shouldn't need to buy anything to do proper backups now. While you're figuring out the options in BE, do a backup using the W2K Backup program. 2.5 years ago? Keerist! What are your log files like? Do you have Circular Logging enabled? > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:35 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > money until Jan. > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > since it was > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > box could tank at > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > cannot get it > until then. > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > great big kludgy > crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > Exchange environment > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I > have a problem > with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to > restore an > individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then > hangs. It never > fails or gives an error message. > > My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows > 2000 Server > (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. > > Thanks, > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang = english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Read the Ed Crowley method and the DR whitepaper and you will change your line of reasoning. > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > The recovery drill should be for my boss, because I've been > whining about > this for weeks now. Actually, I am doing a full store back AND brick > backup. The problem has been trying to restore a single > brick. I realize > that this is duplicate information, but I wanted the > granularity to restore > individual mailboxes as needed. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:14 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > That is what a recovery server is for. Maybe a refresher on disaster > recovery is in order. > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:08:52 -0600 > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > their inbox and > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > because it was > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > was made, right? > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > better one's at > the moment. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > whole store at > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > a heck of a lot > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > any moment. This > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > All it takes is > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > are large > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > Backup-to-disk > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > Yes, I know I > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > the exchange > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > money until Jan. > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > since it was > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > box could tank at > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > cannot get it > until then. > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > great big kludgy > crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > Exchange environment > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protectin
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Read, understand and read again the MS Exchange Backup and Disaster Recovery Whitepaper. Link to it is in the FAQ or is google-able. Then read it again. If you need to recover a single mailbox (a relatively unlikely occurrence if you follow the Ed Crowley Never Restore Method - also in the FAQ) you can do the full restore to another server, then extract out the needed mailbox and merge it into the live server store, affecting no other users. Read the Whitepaper! > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:09 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes > their inbox and > then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention > period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) > because it was > set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup > was made, right? > > I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any > better one's at > the moment. > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the > whole store at > once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running > a heck of a lot > faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and > any moment. This > box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. > All it takes is > one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am > screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that > are large > enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use > Backup-to-disk > folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. > Yes, I know I > need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and > the exchange > agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. > > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > It could tank at any moment then this means you should use > brick level > backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something > > > From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > money until Jan. > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > since it was > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > box could tank at > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > cannot get it > until then. > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > great big kludgy > crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > Exchange environment > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I > have a problem > with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to > restore an > individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then > hangs. It never > fails or gives an error message. > > My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows > 2000 Server > (SP4) with Veritas Ba
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
You shouldn't need to buy anything to do proper backups now. While you're figuring out the options in BE, do a backup using the W2K Backup program. 2.5 years ago? Keerist! What are your log files like? Do you have Circular Logging enabled? > -Original Message- > From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:35 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any > money until Jan. > 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up > since it was > built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this > box could tank at > any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I > cannot get it > until then. > > I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. > > > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > > You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a > great big kludgy > crutch for administrators who insist on managing their > Exchange environment > like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. > > http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 > > For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I > have a problem > with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to > restore an > individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then > hangs. It never > fails or gives an error message. > > My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows > 2000 Server > (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. > > Thanks, > Eric Fretz > > L-3 Communications > ComCept Division > 2800 Discovery Blvd. > Rockwall, TX 75032 > tel: 972.772.7501 > fax: 972.772.7510 > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&t ext_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang= english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
The recovery drill should be for my boss, because I've been whining about this for weeks now. Actually, I am doing a full store back AND brick backup. The problem has been trying to restore a single brick. I realize that this is duplicate information, but I wanted the granularity to restore individual mailboxes as needed. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 That is what a recovery server is for. Maybe a refresher on disaster recovery is in order. From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:08:52 -0600 I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes their inbox and then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) because it was set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup was made, right? I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any better one's at the moment. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running a heck of a lot faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Commun
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
You can not do a complete Exchange restore with BLBs. You must/should do a full online backup of the DS and IS. Install the Exch Admin gui on a remote W2k machine and back it up to disk. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 9:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
That is what a recovery server is for. Maybe a refresher on disaster recovery is in order. From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:08:52 -0600 I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes their inbox and then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) because it was set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup was made, right? I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any better one's at the moment. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running a heck of a lot faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To u
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
I agree. Although, what happens when an idiot user trashes their inbox and then convienently forgets to tell me until after the 1 week retention period? Restoring the entire store would be a bad idea(tm) because it was set everybody back to the state the were in when the backup was made, right? I agree Brick backups are bad idea, I just don't have any better one's at the moment. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running a heck of a lot faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
If it is that bad then you might want to think of using exmerge to export the mailboxes to psts. Make sure you have plenty of room as you will loose SIS. From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 08:01:18 -0600 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Ok, but what is BLB going to do for you? If you backup the whole store at once the normal way, you are going to be back up and running a heck of a lot faster than if you had to restore mailboxes one by one. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 6:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Murphy's law says that any working device can crap out and any moment. This box is running on a gateway 1U server with no RAID drives. All it takes is one hardware failure on a drive to take out the Private store and I am screwed. This company doesn't even have any tape drives that are large enough to hold a backup of the mailboxes. I've had to use Backup-to-disk folders on other servers to get space to hold the backups. Yes, I know I need tape drives. Yes, I know that I need backup exec 9 (and the exchange agent). Those are all planned purchased in Q1 of '04. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
It could tank at any moment then this means you should use brick level backups. Where did you hear that or am i missing something From: Eric Fretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 07:35:21 -0600 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Do a full, online backup of the store ASAP with either Veritas or NTBACKUP. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 8:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
I've inherited this IT environment and I can't spend any money until Jan. 5th. Oh, by the way, this exchange box as not been backed up since it was built 2.5 years ago! Brick backups are start because this box could tank at any moment. I'm purchasing Veritas BE 9 in January, but I cannot get it until then. I might have a trial copy of BE 9 and I can use until then, though. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 You're not going to like this answer, but brick backup is a great big kludgy crutch for administrators who insist on managing their Exchange environment like they would a Microsoft Mail environment. Quit depending on it. http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 2:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5
Stop doing BLBs..Or at the very minimum, upgrade Veritas to at least 8.6. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Problems with Backup Exec 8.5 For those of you with Veritas (Or Seagate) Backup Exec, I have a problem with restoring individual user mailboxes. Everytime I try to restore an individuals mailbox, the job copies 9088 bytes and then hangs. It never fails or gives an error message. My mail server is Exchange 5.5 standard running on a Windows 2000 Server (SP4) with Veritas Backup Exec v8.5. Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 97 W/O Admin or Pwr Usr
Ha ha Ed. Alex Gonzalez IBM Global Services Nissan Technical Center North America 248.488.6602 -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook 97 W/O Admin or Pwr Usr Switch to the Exchange 5.0 client on OS/2 Warp. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook 97 W/O Admin or Pwr Usr Is there a way to run Outlook 97 on a Windows 2000 box in an NT4 domain without giving the user Power user or Administrator privileges? Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=? =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=?=eng lish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
