Re: RBL's

[Doug Hampshire]

Don't need to, it already works well here ;-)

- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Exchange Discussions'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 2:11 PM
Subject: RE: RBL's


> Lets talk about something else like making it illegal to smoke in
> restaurants or bars
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:davida@;vss.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 9:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
>
>
> Caution: Thread is hot.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: RBL's
>
>
> At no time have I said that companies can't choose to implement RBLs;
simply
> that they should be cognizant of the complete ramifications of the
> technology. Obtaining this level of understanding is a much better example
> of risk management than some theoretical defense against a "risk" which
> appears to have no foundation in reality.
>
> Please don't use the McDonalds lawsuit as some type of example of the
legal
> system gone bezerk. If you actually understood the history of the case,
> you'd find that the judgment itself was well within the bounds of reason,
> even if the monetary damages awarded appear to be a bit shocking.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Finch Brett [mailto:brett.finch@;hrs.ualberta.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:31 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >
> >  Can you say 'risk management'. If someone can drive up to a window,
> > order a coffee then take the lid off, drive over a speed bump and sue
> > someone else,
> > anything is possible :)
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:chris_scharff@;messageone.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 21:20
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: RBL's
> >
> >
> > I've never heard of a single instance where a lawsuit was initiated
> > against an organization based on incoming *spam*. Can you point to
> > one? I can point
> > to deals which didn't get done because of RBLs which resulted in real
> > monetary loss, which would seem to make one more likely than the other
> > unless you can point to a court case I'm not aware of.
> >
> > Matt's "client side" could technically be much different from a normal
> > organization since his firm provides hosting to businesses (clients)
> > who have their own users (another type of client). There are plenty of
> > examples of server based filtering based on individual user settings
> > which could potentially meet his objective and address your objection.
> > Most of those solutions are poorly done IMNSHO.
> >
> > RBLs in general aren't content filtering solutions, they are
> > connection filtering solutions. While they may at some level achieve
> > similar results, their objectives are actually quite different.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Finch Brett [mailto:brett.finch@;hrs.ualberta.ca]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 4:46 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > >
> > >  I've watched this thread for a while. I don't buy the argument that
> > > a ten million deal will fail because of a bounced email via RBL.
> > > It's just as likely that a dept. with predominant females could sue
> > > for fifteen million for sexual harassment in the fact the company
> > > with the ten million dollar deal didn't take reasonable steps to
> > > protect them from this spam. There also seems to be no argument
> > > about the value of email in the workplace and that a business may
> > > find they loose a ten thousand dollar deal but save fifteen thousand
> > > in the fact their people are actually doing what they were
> > hired
> > > to
> > > do (as mentioned in other posts bandwidth costs, storage costs as
> > > well). As for the per client configuration, that works until they
> > > start adding
> > their
> > > contacts to the junk list or they log into a Terminal Server or via
> > > wireless with a PDA. We also don't hire people based on their skills
> > > to manage their
> > > email. Finding a moderate RBL with reasonable rules and sending a nice
> > > e-mail back to a would be spammer seems to work as well as anything.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Matt Natkin [mailto:mnatkin@;natco-inc.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:49
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: RBL's
> > >
> > >
> > > Very true..We have hosted exchange for business and we get the sh-t
> > > spammed out of us. But we do not block any email! That may change as
> > > our customers are complaining bitterly. The best solution we would
> > > like is a filter on the client side and not the server side. MacAfee
> > > spam kill product looks
> > nice
> > > but I do not know if it can talk to Exchange server. (not POP) I
> > > just
> > felt
> > > we started something ugly on this list!!:)  Wanted to clarify why we
> > were
>

RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)

[Doug Hampshire]

I'm sorry, I seem to have mis-typed the word TROLL. If "she" wants to reveal
"her" true identity then I might change my mind. 

-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 11:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


Why are giving her such a hard time? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Doug Hampshire
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 9:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


I just heard back from one of my contacts at the  and they said you were a Troll.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


I just heard back from one of my contacts at Microsoft.  He said that he
can't comment on it.  But he did say that there are some wild theories
out there.  "Some are crazy and some are more sane"

--Felicity
> Sadly enough, true. Conclusion: unless it is a released product there 
> is nothing you can really rely on, even a press announcement.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging) =20
> > At ATE 2 years ago, we spent a lot of time answering questions about
> the
> > amazing E2K WebDav features in Outlook 2002 based on the 
> >presentations  given  there eh Sig? I don't exactly trust things I 
> >read on  http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp as gospel 
> >either. =20
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > >
> > >
> > > From the http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html:
> > >
> > > 
> > > The pending announcement is vitally important for Microsoft, 
> > > because the rumors suggest that Kodiak, the next major release of 
> > > Exchange Server, will use Yukon as its store rather than the 
> > > current JET/EDB/ESE storage engine. If that is the case, then 
> > > Yukon will need to handle the extraordinary storage flexibility 
> > > that Exchange Server offers today. 
> > >
> > > Read it closely. It doesn't say the next version of Exchange. It 
> > > talks a about a future MAJOR release code named Kodiak. Also note 
> > > that both articles is from 07/08/2001, about a year old! I 
> > > wouldn't count on anything which isn't officially from Microsoft 
> > > and current.
> > >
> > > And of course, these are all rumors unless it is officially 
> > > confirmed in public by Microsoft. So, unless I read it on 
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp I do not believe it

> > > is true.
> > >
> > > Can we now get back to our daily work and stop feeding the rumor
> mill?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:17 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > > >
> > > > I apologize for leading anyone astray, but Siegfried I was
> > > absolutely
> > > > stunned to hear you say it wasn't so.  I have been
> > > following this for
> > > a
> > > > long time and I though it was a done deal.
> > > >
> > > > Please give me your comments on the following links.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dnjonline.com/TechEd2001/reports/sess_keynote_jon.htm
> > > > l
> > > >
> > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html
> > > >
> > > > I am checking with a few of my SQL contacts who work for
> > > Microsoft to
> > > hear
> > > > what they can officially say about this.  I know a few who work 
> > > > on
> > > part of
> > > > the teams who are involved in the SQL.NET File System which
> > > you may or
> > > may
> > > > not know if very similar to WSS, and is optimized for handling 
> > > > the
> > > sort of

RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)

[Doug Hampshire]

I just heard back from one of my contacts at the  and they said you were a Troll.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)


I just heard back from one of my contacts at Microsoft.  He said that he
can't comment on it.  But he did say that there are some wild theories out
there.  "Some are crazy and some are more sane"

--Felicity
> Sadly enough, true. Conclusion: unless it is a released product there is
> nothing you can really rely on, even a press announcement.
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:38 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> >=20
> > At ATE 2 years ago, we spent a lot of time answering questions about
> the
> > amazing E2K WebDav features in Outlook 2002 based on the presentations
> > given
> > there eh Sig? I don't exactly trust things I read on
> > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp as gospel either.
> >=20
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Siegfried Weber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 8:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > >
> > >
> > > From the http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html:
> > >
> > > 
> > > The pending announcement is vitally important for Microsoft,
> > > because the rumors suggest that Kodiak, the next major
> > > release of Exchange Server, will use Yukon as its store
> > > rather than the current JET/EDB/ESE storage engine. If that
> > > is the case, then Yukon will need to handle the extraordinary
> > > storage flexibility that Exchange Server offers today. 
> > >
> > > Read it closely. It doesn't say the next version of Exchange.
> > > It talks a about a future MAJOR release code named Kodiak.
> > > Also note that both articles is from 07/08/2001, about a year
> > > old! I wouldn't count on anything which isn't officially from
> > > Microsoft and current.
> > >
> > > And of course, these are all rumors unless it is officially
> > > confirmed in public by Microsoft. So, unless I read it on
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/default.asp I do not
> > > believe it is true.
> > >
> > > Can we now get back to our daily work and stop feeding the rumor
> mill?
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 3:17 PM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging)
> > > >
> > > > I apologize for leading anyone astray, but Siegfried I was
> > > absolutely
> > > > stunned to hear you say it wasn't so.  I have been
> > > following this for
> > > a
> > > > long time and I though it was a done deal.
> > > >
> > > > Please give me your comments on the following links.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.dnjonline.com/TechEd2001/reports/sess_keynote_jon.html
> > > >
> > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/20879.html
> > > >
> > > > I am checking with a few of my SQL contacts who work for
> > > Microsoft to
> > > hear
> > > > what they can officially say about this.  I know a few who work on
> > > part of
> > > > the teams who are involved in the SQL.NET File System which
> > > you may or
> > > may
> > > > not know if very similar to WSS, and is optimized for handling the
> > > sort of
> > > > non-rectangular record sets that Exchange has.
> > > >
> > > > --Felicity
> > > > > Neither will ESE98 being ported to SQL Server nor does the next
> > > version
> > > > > of Exchange have an SQL Server based database engine.
> > > > >
> > > > > As I mentioned already. Please check that information with the
> > > source
> > > > > you got it from and stop posting plain wrong information
> > > here which
> > > > > might confuse other people.
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > > From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 2:21 PM
> > > > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > > > Subject: RE: Messaging & collaboration (Unified Messaging) =
> =3D20
> > > > > > I know that, I was making a dumb joke about the fact that SQL
> > > Server
> > > > > will
> > > > > > be providing the next database engine for the next version of
> > > > > Exchange.
> > > > > > And the code name for the next version of SQL Server is
> > > Yukon. =3D20
> > > > > > Can you confirm that ESE98 is being ported to SQL Server?
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > >=3D20
> > > > > > --Felicity
> > > > > > > The next version of Exchange is not codenamed Yukon.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > William 
> > > > > > > *Titanium* Racing Bikes
> > > > > > > "Why ride when you can fly?" - William Lefkovics
> > > > > > 

RE: Where is everyone?

[Doug Hampshire]

We don't invite Trolls that hide behind false eMail accounts and that only
post via the Web interface. Too bad because we had lots of adult beverages.

-Original Message-
From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Where is everyone?


Where is everyone?  Is there some party going for Exchange admins that I
wasn't invited to?  Or is everyone hung over from the weekend?  Or am I
getting the silent treatment yet again?

Sigh!

-Felicity

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RE: help

[Doug Hampshire]

In that case, I'm not wearing pants. Just wanted to let you know.

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 9:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


I just wanted to let you know...

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 29 May, 2002 5:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


Congratulations. You've failed to include /any/ useful information in
your
post.

> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: help
> 
> 
> help !!!
> my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: help

[Doug Hampshire]

When you do that voodoo, that you do so well.

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: help


So what?

Care to be a LITTLE bit more specific in your request?  Or should we resort
to the crystal fscking balls and voodoo dances to try and work out what the
hell you're prattling on about?

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 16:09
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: help


help !!!
my firewall blocks when sending a mailmerge !!!

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RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff

[Doug Hampshire]

Trust me. No one covets this list. We endure it.

-Original Message-
From: David Florea [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: For those fed up with the looping stuff


Thou shalt not covet they neighbor's list...

;-}

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: For those fed up with the looping stuff



There are other lists around who don't suffer outages like this. 
To subscribe to the Exchange 2000 list .. send a message to:

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RE: Archive

[Doug Hampshire]

Yes.

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RE: Archive

[Doug Hampshire]

The pool hall after a night of Bushmills and Coke? [1]

[1] And buttery nipples

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Archive


We work in a tech company - where do you think the ideas come from?

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:13 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> That's as bad as taking technology advice from marketing.
> 
> Serdar Soysal
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> What does your Legal department say? Or do they take the lead 
> from IT? [1]
> 
> [1] Note to self: quickly run away from any company that 
> takes legal advice
> from IT.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Archive
> 
> 
> How long do most of you hold tapes?  We are looking to 
> establish a standard
> on how long to keep tapes in archived before reintroducing 
> them back into
> the tape rotation to be overwritten.  I know there are many 
> differnent ways
> to look at this as far as cost per tape, storage space, legal 
> aspects, and
> disaster recovery and wanted to know what people thought was 
> a good period
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RE: Test

[Doug Hampshire]

:-(

Ouch, that hurt.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test


And to think I was going to buy your whole company with this twenty dollar
bill.



-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test


But we like Martin and Andy.

-Original Message-
From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test


Remember, folks:  Don't feed the trolls.

> -Original Message-
> From: Felicity Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Test
> 
> 
> Pardon me for asking, but who is Ed Crowley and why should I 
> worship at
> his feet?
> 
> --Felicity
> 
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RE: Archive

[Doug Hampshire]

What does your Legal department say? Or do they take the lead from IT? [1]

[1] Note to self: quickly run away from any company that takes legal advice
from IT.

-Original Message-
From: Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
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Subject: Archive


How long do most of you hold tapes?  We are looking to establish a
standard on how long to keep tapes in archived before reintroducing them
back into the tape rotation to be overwritten.  I know there are many
differnent ways to look at this as far as cost per tape, storage space,
legal aspects, and disaster recovery and wanted to know what people
thought was a good period

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RE: Archive

[Doug Hampshire]

They should buy Soap on a Rope?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Archive


You know what they say about those who act as their
own attorney!

Ed Crowley
hp Services

--- David Florea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The 30-day period agrees with my printed
> documentation, because I wrote the documentation.  I
> don't have a legal department so I just hang out my
> own shingle.  ;-}
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> I sincerely hope that your legal department agrees
> with the 30 day tape
> retention.  A good lawyer once told me that any
> attorney will have a field
> day at court if your e-mail retention period did not
> match your printed
> document retention period.  I tend to agree with
> that.
> 
> Serdar Soysal
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Florea
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:28 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Archive
> 
> 
> Dependent on business needs, and for some companies
> on legal requirements.
> Some financial institutions may have to hold some
> tapes for years.
> Officially, I don't keep anything beyond 30 days. 
> In the unfortunate event
> of a subpoena, my job is much simpler.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 10:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Archive
> 
> 
> How long do most of you hold tapes?  We are looking
> to establish a standard
> on how long to keep tapes in archived before
> reintroducing them back into
> the tape rotation to be overwritten.  I know there
> are many differnent ways
> to look at this as far as cost per tape, storage
> space, legal aspects, and
> disaster recovery and wanted to know what people
> thought was a good period
> 
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RE: Moving Public Folders from E5.5

[Doug Hampshire]

Run into it many times (we like to acquire companies here). Multiple PST's
is the only solution we have ever found. We even tasked our TAM with finding
another solution. He came back with - multiple PST's.

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 6:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Moving Public Folders from E5.5


What if the pf is larger than 2GB?  I suppose using multiple PSTs is an
option.  

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Moving Public Folders from E5.5


Export to PST.  Import.
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:45 PM
Subject: E2K: Moving Public Folders from E5.5


Hi All,

What is the best way to move all PF from Exchange 5.5 SP3 server (NT4
SP6a)
to Exchange 2000 (SBS2K SP2) using a different domain and organization? I
don't care about retaining permissions.  The two server machines are on the
same LAN (same subnet).

Best Regards,
JMU


Jim Underwood
Apollo Information Systems, Inc.
Houston, TX 77058

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RE: Changing OWA Port

[Doug Hampshire]

Making your own certificate is ugly. Not that the certificate is hard to
create, but due to all the calls from your lusers that can't understand why
their browser is asking them to install an untrusted certificate into their
system. Anything that is labeled as "untrusted" sets off the panic alarm
with the lusers resulting in lot's-o-calls to the help desk. 

But SSL/OWA good. Encrypts data on the wire. Non-SSL/OWA bad. All data
(including authentication data) unencrypted on the wire.

-Original Message-
From: Rob Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Changing OWA Port


Get yourself (or make yourself) a certificate and go with SSL.

Rob

-Original Message-
From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Changing OWA Port


We out source our firewall management and the guy is recommending that we
move our OWA from port 80 to some higher port (in the 1000 range).  We only
have port 80 open for OWA since we don't run a web site from here.  Ahs
anyone else done this or have any other suggestions?

Jim Liddil
Phytoceutica


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RE: test

[Doug Hampshire]

Can she make change with out her hands too? I'm copasetic with that.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: test


Ah.. But I thought Lang Po was a Thai dish.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981

>SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue >0
0 rows returned


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: test


Lang po.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 8:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: test


Can do what?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981

>SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue >0
0 rows returned


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 9:56 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: test


I hear the girls in the Philippines can do that.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 2:16 AM
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Subject: test


test lang po!...


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RE: totally OT:Ed Crowley

[Doug Hampshire]

And TINSC[1]. Oh wait no he doesn't. Never mind, move along now. Nothing to
see here.

[1] There Is No Secret Cabal

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: totally OT:Ed Crowley


And also on the MS newsgroups.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Steve Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: totally OT:Ed Crowley

He posts on the Yahoo Group called Exchange 2000 daily.

Steve Evans
Computing Services
SDSU Foundation
619 594-0653

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: totally OT:Ed Crowley


Our loss. Thats for dang sure. Its not the same w/o him.



-Original Message-
From: missy koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:38 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: totally OT:Ed Crowley


He's alive and well.  Swynk's mismanagement of this list has made it
impossible for him to post as of late.
- Original Message -
From: "Chinnery Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 2:32 PM
Subject: totally OT:Ed Crowley


Does anybody know what happened to Ed Crowley?  It just hit me that I
haven't seen any posts from him for a long time.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr




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RE: Test to see if the list is live...

[Doug Hampshire]

Besides in Heaven we wouldn't keep getting these blue screens and having to
load rollup patches.

-Original Message-
From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test to see if the list is live...


Wer have all died and gone to MS Heaven!!!  All praise Bill Gates... 
Ophs!!! It sure is hot - perhaps it not Heaven after all...

-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Test to see if the list is live...


We all went to the bar and "forgot" to invite you.

Serdar Soysal


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Test to see if the list is live...


Haven't seen any activities today.

Andrew,

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RE: slight OT - SMTP Policy

[Doug Hampshire]

Every person on this list has an eMail policy. The policy can range from "we
don't enforce anything" to "Legal makes us be the eMail Gestapo and Thought
Police". Even if you don't have a stated, written policy you still have a de
facto policy in place then.

My personal druthers? 200 MB mailbox limit, 10 MB limit on connectors, 120
day mailbox cleanup, 30 deleted item retention. By my druthers have nothing
to do with your business model.

-Original Message-
From: Mark Peoples [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: slight OT - SMTP Policy


Hi,

I am looking at implmenting a new e-mail policy for my organisation. Is
anyone out there who has a company policy for e-mail (exchange specific or
SMTP is OK) already written and are  willing to share it with me? 

Basically, rather than re-inventing the wheel, I am looking for a policy
that someone out there already has, to use as a basis for our own.

If anyone can assist, please feel free to contact me direct:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks,
MP

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RE: any news on sp3?

[Doug Hampshire]

 We specialize in tasteless here ma'am. (but we're
polite about it)

Got any pictures to prove it? Please.

-Original Message-
From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: any news on sp3?


Wow.  I really can't decide if I'm actually offended by this or not.  I'll
let you know after I figure out why you think "Ali" could ONLY be a male.

(ok, I'm not really offended, and I won't be any time soon, but that was
pretty tasteless, Martin)

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: any news on sp3?


I think it is a 'men thing'. We want the biggest car, fastest computer and
the newest service packs.

--
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MVP Exchange
Exchange2000 List owner
www.exchange-mail.org
www.sharepointserver.com
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- Original Message -
From: "Sander Van Butzelaar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: any news on sp3?


Without sounding too nasty:"Why do people care when it comes out? Unless
you have a serious problem and than you should talk to PPS anyway"

. Sander

-Original Message-
From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 30 April 2002 09:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: any news on sp3?


Rumours are that it will be released this Millenium.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:05 PM
Subject: any news on sp3?


> Ok... I lost my page a while back in the book known as "waiting for
the
> service pack".
>
> Anyone seen anything anywhere about ex2ksp3?  info?  target date?
>
> Thanks.
>
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RE: Full access

[Doug Hampshire]

That's why we got him GAnimals. He can pick the giraffe label pants and
know that the giraffe label shirt will match it.

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:13 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


My clothes don't match, but I dress myself.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 2:02 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Full access
> 
> 
> The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my
> boss, nor a C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM 
> status. He can actually get dressed all by himself now each morning.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Full access
> 
> 
> ShavedSeielstad.exe?
> 
> 
> ---- Original message 
> >Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
> >From: Doug Hampshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Full access
> >To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
> level exec's
> >mailboxes then.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: RE: Full access
> >
> >
> >Runs counter to several things I would consider best
> practices.
> >
> >1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
> >2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for
> day to day work.
> >3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
> that doesn't mean
> >that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
> those users should
> >be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
> ability to log into
> >mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
> possible.
> >
> >I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
> for lunch.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> >> Subject: RE: Full access
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Why is this a bad design?
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
> >> To: Exchange Discussions
> >> Subject: RE: Full access
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Asked and answered at least once this week already I
> think.
> >> Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
> particular
> >> question implies.
> >> 
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
> >> > To: Exchange Discussions
> >> > Subject: Full access
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
> to
> >> all PFs and
> >> > Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
> >> 
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RE: Full access

[Doug Hampshire]

The talented and ever popular Mr. Seielstad is neither my boss, nor a
C-Level exec. And he has graduated beyond SSM status. He can actually get
dressed all by himself now each morning.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


ShavedSeielstad.exe?


 Original message 
>Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 10:38:20 -0700
>From: Doug Hampshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Full access  
>To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-
level exec's
>mailboxes then.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: Full access
>
>
>Runs counter to several things I would consider best
practices.
>
>1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled.
>2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for 
day to day work.
>3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but
that doesn't mean
>that the rights should be applied to that group, rather
those users should
>be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the
ability to log into
>mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users
possible.
>
>I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out
for lunch.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: RE: Full access
>> 
>> 
>> Why is this a bad design?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
>> To: Exchange Discussions
>> Subject: RE: Full access
>> 
>> 
>> Asked and answered at least once this week already I
think.
>> Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that
>> particular question implies.
>> 
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
>> > To: Exchange Discussions
>> > Subject: Full access
>> > 
>> > 
>> > What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access
to
>> all PFs and
>> > Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
>> 
>> 
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RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.

[Doug Hampshire]

Mail Recall from Authentica. It can prevent forwarding, copying, printing
(even blocks most screen captures), change access permissions on the fly,
expiration of messages, etc. Even prevents others from seeing the content of
the messages that might have permission on the mailbox since it uses a
separate key system.

It's even easy enough to use that C-Level exec's can use it.
www.authentica.com 

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.


I'll use the same argument Doug used for the BCC question.

How did you prevent someone from taking a typed memo and making photocopies
of it?

> -Original Message-
> From: Bibel, Laura Y. [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 1:08 PM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
> 
> Ok, let me try this again. If I send a message marked private, 
> when the recipient opens it, he CANNOT modify anything in the message 
> box. He CAN
> hit reply or forward, but he CANNOT modify my message and he CANNOT copy
> any
> of my message while composing the reply. I was looking at this only from a
> reply/forward perspective. I just realized that when the recipient opens
> the
> original message, he CAN copy the contents elsewhere. I think that's wierd
> though. It would be nice if you couldn't copy in either read or compose
> mode. I apologize for my error (even though I was partly right, I
> think!!!)
> I feel stupid enough so be nice, ok?
> 
> 
> Laura Bibel
> Allegheny Energy: Information Services
> Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
> 
> 
> Okay if you say so.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Bibel, Laura Y." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 9:23 PM
> Subject: RE: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
> 
> 
> > If the message composed in Outlook is marked private, the contents 
> > can't
> be
> > copied/pasted.
> >
> > Laura Bibel
> > Allegheny Energy: Information Services
> > Voice (724) 830-5966 Fax (724) 853-3600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Beron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 3:28 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Prevent the forwarding of an email message.
> >
> >
> > Was wondering if there was a way to prevent someone from forwarding 
> > the email message or any content of the message. (ie cutting and 
> > pasting to
> a
> > new message.
> >
> > We are using exchange 5.5 server and outlook 97, 98 and 2000 
> > clients.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Full access

[Doug Hampshire]

But how am I supposed to monitor my boss's and all the C-level exec's
mailboxes then. 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 10:01 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Full access


Runs counter to several things I would consider best practices.

1. Domain Admin accounts should not be mailbox enabled. 
2. Users should be logging in as domain admin accounts for day to day work.
3. All Domain Admins might also be Exchange Admins, but that doesn't mean
that the rights should be applied to that group, rather those users should
be part of an Exchange admins group. 4. Users with the ability to log into
mailboxes should be limited to the smallest group of users possible.

I'm sure there are others, but I'm hungry and headed out for lunch.

> -Original Message-
> From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:56 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Full access
> 
> 
> Why is this a bad design?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 12:52 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Full access
> 
> 
> Asked and answered at least once this week already I think.
> Q258183. I'll skip the diatribe on what a bad design that 
> particular question implies.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 11:46 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Full access
> > 
> > 
> > What is the best way to give Domain Admins full access to
> all PFs and
> > Mailboxes in Exchange2k?
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RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server

[Doug Hampshire]

I remember Dittos. Especially the saddleback's. But I got hit every time I
tried to smell them.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server


Remember dittos in school? That purple writing and how everyone in the class
would smell them as soon as they got them and then everyone would get a
little buzz?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server


Those of us under 40 dont remember that.



 Original message 
>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:07:48 -0700
>From: Doug Hampshire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange
server  
>To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>And how did they disable it prior to electronic eMail?
After all the term
>BCC refers to Blind CARBON Copy, referring to the old
practice of putting
>carbon paper under the original letter on their typewriter
(or under the
>hand written note).
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:44 AM
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange
server
>
>
>Im going to take the Devil's advocate position. I dont
think 
>this is such a dumb request myself. I can think of alot of reasons 
>companies would want to disable the bcc: functionality. As far as I 
>tell, bcc: support is not an absolute requirement of the RFCs and it 
>would certainly upset alot of your sneaky peers if they couldn't use 
>it!
>
>
>
>
>
> Original message 
>>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:13:30 +0100
>>From: Tristan Gayford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange
>server
>>To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Disable the manager...
>>
>>-
>>Tristan Gayford
>>Deputy Systems & Network Manager
>>Cranfield University at Silsoe
>>
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: 08 April 2002 16:30
>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>Subject: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server
>>
>>
>>Hello Everyone,
>>Our clients send lots of BCC messages. Our Manager never
>likes this. How do
>>I prevent this?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Volkan
>>
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RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server

[Doug Hampshire]

And how did they disable it prior to electronic eMail? After all the term
BCC refers to Blind CARBON Copy, referring to the old practice of putting
carbon paper under the original letter on their typewriter (or under the
hand written note).

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 4:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server


Im going to take the Devil's advocate position. I dont think 
this is such a dumb request myself. I can think of alot of 
reasons companies would want to disable the bcc: 
functionality. As far as I tell, bcc: support is not an 
absolute requirement of the RFCs and it would certainly 
upset alot of your sneaky peers if they couldn't use it! 





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>Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:13:30 +0100
>From: Tristan Gayford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange 
server  
>To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Disable the manager...
>
>-
>Tristan Gayford
>Deputy Systems & Network Manager
>Cranfield University at Silsoe
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: 08 April 2002 16:30
>To: Exchange Discussions
>Subject: How can I disable BCC feature on exchange server
>
>
>Hello Everyone,
>Our clients send lots of BCC messages. Our Manager never
likes this. How do
>I prevent this?
>
>Thanks
>
>Volkan
>
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RE: Check it out

[Doug Hampshire]

Nope. No Workee. U bad Tener.

ANDY! Aren't U his Tech Buddy.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 8:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Check it out


Exchange 5.5 IMAP4 Easter Egg  

Rating: 5.3 of 10 (18 votes cast)  
From: ajo ([EMAIL PROTECTED])  
Requires: telnet access to port 143  
Easter Egg: 1. telnet to a 5.5 server's imap4 port (port 143 by default) 

2. enter the following commands: 


? IMAP4 [hit enter] 
? ATE [hit enter] 
? MY [hit enter] 
? BALLS [hit enter] 


You should see the following: 

* OK Microsoft Exchange IMAP4rev1 server version 5.5.2650.23
(yourdomainnamehere.com) ready 
? BAD Protocol Error 
? BAD Protocol Error 
? BAD Protocol Error 
* Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 Server is brought to you by: 
* 
* Development: 
* Larry Osterman Mark Pustilnik 
* 
* Kok Wai Chan Patrick Ng Mathru Janakiraman 
* Jaya Matthew Anand Naidu Soner Terek 
* 
* Shailesh Vaishnavi Andrzej Turski Kean Riekenbrauck 
* Isaac Chan Jean Wu 
* 
* Testing: 
* Steven Goddard Son Duong Danial Aalberg 
* Scott Overholser Jason Urban Marc Allen 
* Sean O'Brien *Darren Smith *Jon Beck 
* *Marielle Sanna 
* 
* Program Management: 
* Mike Gahrns 
* 
* Team Mascot: Delilah the Spastic Spaniel 
? OK Microsoft Exchange Server - the most feared and loathed group @
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RE: Comm Check

[Doug Hampshire]

Keep it on topic asshole [1]

[1] I'm experimenting with being a newbie.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


I'm also experimenting whether being a PITA is any better than being a nice
guy.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. --Chinese
Proverb



-Original Message-
From: Baker, Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:52 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


He's so picky that way.  He wants attention and when he gets it he wants it
spelled correctly.  Sheesh..

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


I knew I'd get busted on that...

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


It's defibrillator. You need to update your spellchecker.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. --Chinese
Proverb



-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


quick, grab the defibullator!

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Comm Check


This list seems to have died off this afternoon.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
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RE: Comm Check

[Doug Hampshire]

You know they added an option in the latest version of Outlook that will
auto-majikly run spel chuck each time you press the SEND button.

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


I knew I'd get busted on that...

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


It's defibrillator. You need to update your spellchecker.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. --Chinese
Proverb



-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:30 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Comm Check


quick, grab the defibullator!

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 1:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Comm Check


This list seems to have died off this afternoon.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981
Be not afraid of growing slowly, be afraid only of standing still. --Chinese
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RE: Dell Diags

[Doug Hampshire]

So call them from work when you need support on your home unit.

-Original Message-
From: Stevens, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Dell Diags


(At work) their support for us is awsome!  But at home that is a different
story...

-Original Message-
From: Bill Kuhl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Dell Diags


>From what I have seen if you have Dell, you will need Diags because your
networking will have network issues and their support stinks.

Bill Kuhl

-Original Message-
From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Dell Diags


Doesn't exist, Michael.  The Dell Diags are designed to run under a DOS
environment ONLY.  That doesn't mean a DOS Window.  The download will create
the bootable diskettes though.  There are hardly any vendor-supplied
diagnostics that I know of that will run within the operating system.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Dell Diags

Just create a bootable Dos Disk and run it from there.


-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:01 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Dell Diags


I've looked all over for Dell Diagnostics for a Poweredge 4400 that runs in
Win2k and not DOS.  Anybody know of one?

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RE: deleting mail

[Doug Hampshire]

If the message that you boss/CEO/disgruntled employee sent out has a subject
that is unique enough, exmerge will work just dandy. Actually exmerge will
work no matter what the subject is, but it might delete more than you
intended.

-Original Message-
From: Smith Thomas Contr 911 SPTG/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 7:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: deleting mail


is there a way to delete a specific email of exchange server. i am using
exchange server 5.5. sp/4

thanks

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RE: protocol error

[Doug Hampshire]

It means you started eating your soup before the Prime Minister. Next time
wait until he starts. Also don't tuck your napkin in your shirt, place it in
your lap.

-Original Message-
From: Irfan Malik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 9:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: protocol error


Dear List,

What does SMTP protocol error means and how can one solve this.

Regards,

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RE: Disaster Recovery Center

[Doug Hampshire]

I would avoid Arthur Anderson.

-Original Message-
From: Shields, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 7:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Disaster Recovery Center


We're redoing our disaster recovery plan (finally!) and I have some
questions.

Does anyone use a Disaster Recovery center for their offsite requirements or
do you host your own?

Do you know of any companies from experience I should stay away from or some
that I should look into?

Thanks


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RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?

[Doug Hampshire]

Or translated from Tenorish to English:

Phil, try reinstalling SP4. I believe that SP3 had a fix for this problem.
[1]

[1] The corrected English response does not in any way imply that Rich knows
WTF he is talking about.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 7:54 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


Phil try reinstalling SP4 I thinks SP3 had a fix for this/

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


No I was quoting from the yahoo commercial you guys never say that one with
the dolphin and the fat guy on the deserted island.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


Just for the heck of it, remove Tener and try it.


-Original Message-
From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


no luck.
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:15
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


> Just for the heck of it, remove all limits from one of them and try 
> it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 7:19 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> attachment?
>
>
> It is set much higher than 45KB which is the size of the attachment I
tested
> with...
>
> I think I am going to have to call Microsoft directly.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hunter, Lori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:09
> Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> attachment?
>
>
> > Is there a limitation on the size of message that the resource will
> accept?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > I checked that and it happens for all the meeting rooms not just one 
> > of them. They are all under the limit. Thanks.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 09:44
> > Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > > Hmmm the meeting room that is the resource has a full mailbox 
> > > from
> all
> > > the attachments sent to it in the past and it's hit your mailbox 
> > > limit?
> > Just
> > > a WAG...
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:33 AM
> > > Subject: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> > > attachment?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT4 SP6a
> > > >
> > > > For some unknown reasons meeting requests that contain 
> > > > attachments no
> > > longer
> > > > work if they contain an attachament. They worked fine in the 
> > > > past and
> > now
> > > if
> > > > there is an attachment added to the meeting request we get the
> following
> > > > error:
> > > >
> > > > "The operation failed. Unable to directly book a resource for 
> > > > this
> > > meeting."
> > > >
> > > > If you remove the attachment it works fine.
> > > >
> > > > I do not use exchangecode it is a pure Exchange 5.5 
> > > > installation. Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _
> > > >
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > >
> > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
> > > >
> > > >
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RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?

[Doug Hampshire]

What a Dick! [1]

[1] Just quoting Jeff Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 7:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


No I was quoting from the yahoo commercial you guys never say that one with
the dolphin and the fat guy on the deserted island.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


Just for the heck of it, remove Tener and try it.


-Original Message-
From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


no luck.
- Original Message -
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:15
Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an attachment?


> Just for the heck of it, remove all limits from one of them and try 
> it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 7:19 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> attachment?
>
>
> It is set much higher than 45KB which is the size of the attachment I
tested
> with...
>
> I think I am going to have to call Microsoft directly.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Hunter, Lori" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 10:09
> Subject: RE: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> attachment?
>
>
> > Is there a limitation on the size of message that the resource will
> accept?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:52 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > I checked that and it happens for all the meeting rooms not just one 
> > of them. They are all under the limit. Thanks.
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 09:44
> > Subject: Re: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> > attachment?
> >
> >
> > > Hmmm the meeting room that is the resource has a full mailbox 
> > > from
> all
> > > the attachments sent to it in the past and it's hit your mailbox 
> > > limit?
> > Just
> > > a WAG...
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Phil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 8:33 AM
> > > Subject: Meeting requests do not work if they contain an 
> > > attachment?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Exchange 5.5 SP4, NT4 SP6a
> > > >
> > > > For some unknown reasons meeting requests that contain 
> > > > attachments no
> > > longer
> > > > work if they contain an attachament. They worked fine in the 
> > > > past and
> > now
> > > if
> > > > there is an attachment added to the meeting request we get the
> following
> > > > error:
> > > >
> > > > "The operation failed. Unable to directly book a resource for 
> > > > this
> > > meeting."
> > > >
> > > > If you remove the attachment it works fine.
> > > >
> > > > I do not use exchangecode it is a pure Exchange 5.5 
> > > > installation. Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _
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> > > >
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RE: NDR ?

[Doug Hampshire]

I don't support mime's at all. Worse than an 8 bit mime is some 2 bit mime.
I wish someone would lock all of them in their invisible box and throw away
the key.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NDR ?


Somebody doesn't support 8bitmime.  Disable it.

-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 11:36 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: NDR ?
Subject: NDR ?


Below is a new one on me. I looked at the original message and all there is,
is plain text and a couple of URL's.



Your message

  To:  Harmon James
  Subject: this is your notice
  Sent:Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:26:36 -0500

did not reach the following recipient(s):

Harmon, Jim on Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:23:41 -0500
The message contains a content type that is not supported


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RE: Account locked out

[Doug Hampshire]

Either someone else is trying to logon as that user. One common thing we
have seen is that people will use their personal accounts for service
accounts (these are developers, not IT). After they change the password, the
service account will do something that requires authentication.

-Original Message-
From: James Liddil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 9:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Account locked out


Exchange 2000 SP2.  I have a user account that is all of a sudden being
locked out.  I discovered the first instance on Friday when the user could
not log in.  I checked the account  to day and found it was locked out
again. What logging can I turn on to figure out why this is happening.
Other suggestions also welcome.

Jim Liddil

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RE: Radio Buttons

[Doug Hampshire]

Video killed the radio star.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 9:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Radio Buttons


I am creating a form, and there are several different categories, that have
their own radio buttons.  But I can't select more than one radio button for
the whole page.  What do I have to do in order to be able to check one radio
button for one category.

Chris

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RE: Purge folder

[Doug Hampshire]

Look for the eating disorders tab under properties for Outlook today. You
have to enable the binge option first.

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Purge folder


Hello, 

Is there a way to make exchange purge messages according to date or
time for a mailbox.

RT

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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

[Doug Hampshire]

We block that site with WebSense.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:59 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


dsfijj?  D;o[dyovl.com!



-Original Message-
From: Adam Romain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 11:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


dsfijj

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 31 January 2002 16:19
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed & Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent 
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
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TIA,

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RE: Outlook Rules Problem

[Doug Hampshire]

Here's how we handle it:
1. Never allow auto replies to the Internet, you WILL get a mail loop.
2. Allow OOF to the Internet. In theory it can loop, but I have not been
able to find someone that experienced one in the past couple of years.
3. We set the Alternate Recipient to a Dead Letter mailbox 
4. The Dead Letter mailbox has an OOF that replies that the mailbox they are
trying to reach is no longer valid and includes a bunch of contact info.
This info includes Sales and Support numbers that the sender can call so
they will not be left out in the cold. 

HR is happy, Sales is happy, Customer Support is happy, and IT is happy.


-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


I've already told them how I didn't approve.  But it doesn't matter what I
think obviously.  But when the Son of a bitch crashes I'm going to look at
my boss w/my $hit eating grin and say "Told you so"   That's it.


___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
W: 240.453.3575
C:  301.938.6294
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 1:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


I'm not going to sit here and argue on why this isn't the right thing to do.
My manager and HR want it done, so it has to be done.  How can I get this to
work?  

Thanks,

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Who cares what HR wants. They never care what we want! :)

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


HR just wants an Auto Reply.  I told them the consequences and they seem
alright with that, so I'm going to give it to them.  And when the system
crashes from a mail loop.  Then maybe they will start listening to me a bit
more.

But what I explained earlier should work?  I don't need to do anything
special for this to work right?

___
John Bowles
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Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Wouldn't it make more sense to forward the e-mails to the correct person and
let them answer it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bowles, John L.
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Yea I know this is a bad idea.  But they want to use this for 30 days
because someone important left the company and they want everyone sending
him email to know that he no longer works here.  Not my idea!  I already
told them I don't like it.  So if that happens, I'll just sit back here
laughing at their stupid a$$es.

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
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Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


And what happens to you when someone auto-replies to your auto-reply???

BAD IDEA!

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 January 2002 14:25
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: FW: Outlook Rules Problem
>
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying to setup Auto Reply's to the internet.  I've unchecked the
> box "Disable Auto-Replies to the internet" Now when I go into
> Outlook to setup
> this Rule.  I have the rule to check messages when they
> arrive that was sent
> to my name.  Then I have server send reply using basically an
> email message
> back to the user.  In the email box I just put in the things
> I want the user
> to know, hit save and close.
>
> But when I send messages to my mailbox it's not auto-replying back to
> the internet.  It works internally, but not externally.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Outlook Rules Problem

[Doug Hampshire]

That's just hurtful

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Who cares what HR wants. They never care what we want! :)

-Original Message-
From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:23 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


HR just wants an Auto Reply.  I told them the consequences and they seem
alright with that, so I'm going to give it to them.  And when the system
crashes from a mail loop.  Then maybe they will start listening to me a bit
more.

But what I explained earlier should work?  I don't need to do anything
special for this to work right?

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   


-Original Message-
From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Wouldn't it make more sense to forward the e-mails to the correct person and
let them answer it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Bowles, John L.
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 7:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


Yea I know this is a bad idea.  But they want to use this for 30 days
because someone important left the company and they want everyone sending
him email to know that he no longer works here.  Not my idea!  I already
told them I don't like it.  So if that happens, I'll just sit back here
laughing at their stupid a$$es.

___
John Bowles
Exchange Administrator
Enterprise Support & Engineering
Celera Genomics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Outlook Rules Problem


And what happens to you when someone auto-replies to your auto-reply???

BAD IDEA!

Phil

-
Phil Randal
Network Engineer
Herefordshire Council
Hereford, UK

> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 31 January 2002 14:25
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: FW: Outlook Rules Problem
>
>
> All,
>
> I'm trying to setup Auto Reply's to the internet.  I've unchecked the
> box "Disable Auto-Replies to the internet" Now when I go into
> Outlook to setup
> this Rule.  I have the rule to check messages when they
> arrive that was sent
> to my name.  Then I have server send reply using basically an
> email message
> back to the user.  In the email box I just put in the things
> I want the user
> to know, hit save and close.
>
> But when I send messages to my mailbox it's not auto-replying back to
> the internet.  It works internally, but not externally.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> Celera Genomics
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

[Doug Hampshire]

Ah ha, I always assume that if the poster doesn't supply the version info in
the request, that they are running A) the latest version or B) whatever I'm
running (since it's all about me). :-)

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Frank Miller has answered my question...I am running PocketPC 2000. PocketPC
2002 has been on order from Compaq for the last month and a half. Guess
since ours was a free upgrade, we go to the back of the line.

=

PocketPC 2002 has this capability. PocketPC 2000 does not...
 
Frank Miller
Dupont Photomasks, Inc.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Doug,

I hate to argue with someone as knowledgeable as you are, but I am not
getting the same options you are, evidently.

I was doing exactly the steps you suggested, but don't have the ability to
select individual folders underneath the Inbox.  All I have are connectivity
settings, in the context that it asks me if I want to sync the inbox.  If I
do, do I want to limit # of lines, how many days worth of messages, whether
or not I want ot include file attachments and should I autosend stuff in the
Outbox when I connect?

I thought maybe I was running the wrong version of ActiveSync, so I
downloaded version 3.5 from MS and installed it.  I don't see that anything
has changed.

FYI...I am running WinXP Pro with Office XP Pro.

Jim

-----Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


In ActiveSync - Tools, Options, select Inbox and click the Settings button.
Check the boxes of folders you want to sync. [1]

[1] I typed this slowly so you boys in Orange County can follow along.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Under what? :)

-----Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


You just need to select which additional folders you want to sync in
ActiveSync. No magic involved. Did you look at the options?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed & Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent 
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
allow us to see sub-folders to our Inbox, like you can in OWA?

TIA,

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

[Doug Hampshire]

No he doesn't.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Its ok to argue with Doug. I do it all the time.


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Doug,

I hate to argue with someone as knowledgeable as you are, but I am not
getting the same options you are, evidently.

I was doing exactly the steps you suggested, but don't have the ability to
select individual folders underneath the Inbox.  All I have are connectivity
settings, in the context that it asks me if I want to sync the inbox.  If I
do, do I want to limit # of lines, how many days worth of messages, whether
or not I want ot include file attachments and should I autosend stuff in the
Outbox when I connect?

I thought maybe I was running the wrong version of ActiveSync, so I
downloaded version 3.5 from MS and installed it.  I don't see that anything
has changed.

FYI...I am running WinXP Pro with Office XP Pro.

Jim

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


In ActiveSync - Tools, Options, select Inbox and click the Settings button.
Check the boxes of folders you want to sync. [1]

[1] I typed this slowly so you boys in Orange County can follow along.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Under what? :)

-----Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


You just need to select which additional folders you want to sync in
ActiveSync. No magic involved. Did you look at the options?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed & Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent 
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
allow us to see sub-folders to our Inbox, like you can in OWA?

TIA,

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

[Doug Hampshire]

In ActiveSync - Tools, Options, select Inbox and click the Settings button.
Check the boxes of folders you want to sync. [1]

[1] I typed this slowly so you boys in Orange County can follow along.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


Under what? :)

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


You just need to select which additional folders you want to sync in
ActiveSync. No magic involved. Did you look at the options?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed & Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent 
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
allow us to see sub-folders to our Inbox, like you can in OWA?

TIA,

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's

[Doug Hampshire]

You just need to select which additional folders you want to sync in
ActiveSync. No magic involved. Did you look at the options?

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 8:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E-mail and Compaq iPaq's


I'm going to address this question to Ed & Missy primarily, since I'm
assuming that working at Compaq, they have a lot of experience with e-mail
over an iPaq.  But if anyone else knows the answer to this question, feel
free to respond.

Everyone in our Operations group has an iPaq, Model 3670 with a Socket Low
Power Ethernet PCMCIA card in the expansion pack.  We have them successfully
connecting to the network and sync'ing with the workstations over a 100 mbps
switched connection.

Here's the difficult part:  After sync'ing and opening your Inbox, you have
4 folders to choose from, to look in.  They are:
Deleted (local)
Inbox
Outbox
Sent 
I know this behaviour is by default and that there MAY be no workaround for
it.  However, does a third-party product or a workaround exist that would
allow us to see sub-folders to our Inbox, like you can in OWA?

TIA,

Jim Blunt
Network / E-mail Admin
Network / Infrastructure Group
Bechtel Hanford, Inc.
509-372-9188

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RE: SPAM Blocking List

[Doug Hampshire]

My anti-spam list (YMMV)
-
Yahoo.com
Hotmail.com
Donkey_on_a_waffle.com
Zzzptm.com

Of course my users don't like this list much.

-Original Message-
From: Hooks, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: SPAM Blocking List


Does anyone out there have a list they would be willing to post of domains
or email addresses you block to keep out spam? Thanks in advance.

Timothy J. Hooks, MCSE
KBHR
Columbus, Ohio

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RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?????

[Doug Hampshire]

Exchange Administrator - a sign of a diseased mind.
- Amit Hanji

-Original Message-
From: Herold Heiko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 8:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?


Multiple exclamation marks... a sign of a diseased mind.
Terry Pratchett
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 4:49 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
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> 
> 
> 
>   I sure do !!!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?
> 
> 
> No. I find them annoying as well.
> 
> Anyone else find them annoying?
> 
> :)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Mr Louis Joyce
> Network Support Analyst
> Exchange Administrator
> BT Ignite eSolutions
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 28 January 2002 15:41
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?
> 
> 
> It is also possible that the users themselves do it without knowing. 
> Another possibility is that if they have a delegate, the delegate 
> might have had their Inbox open in a separate window.  Since these two 
> people are higher up in the company it is quite possible that they 
> have a number of
> delegates that manage their calendar, and maybe even respond to their
> messages.
> 
> S.
> 
> PS: Am I the only one who finds multiple question marks extremely 
> irritating?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Aristotle Zoulas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:35 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?
> 
> 
> This is a possibility. If this was the case someone would
> have to sit there
> and scroll though each message thus marking it as read. Correct?
> 
> TIA
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 10:20 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?
> 
> I would guess someone is reading their email. They probably
> have OL set to
> mark as read when selection changes.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Aristotle Zoulas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: unread mail marked read by itself ?
> 
> 
> Is this possible? Several members of the firm that I am
> consulting for claim
> to have had this problem. They came in one morning several 
> days ago and to
> their surprise, mail that they NEVER read was marked as being read by
> outlook. The firm is running  Exchange 5.5 with outlook as a client .
> 
> Some possibilities are: 1.)something happened to the internal
> database that
> caused this error.2.) Someone within the company tampered 
> with the mail and
> read their mail, thus marking it as read. 3.) Perhaps their 
> backup system
> had something to do with it. They are doing brick level back ups using
> Veritas 8.5.
> 
> 
> #3 does not seem like an option since only two people, albeit
> high level IT
> people, were affected. This also NEVER happened before.
> 
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.
> 
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RE: unread mail marked read by itself ?????

[Doug Hampshire]

#2 is the likely suspect. Just check your logs to see who is accessing the
said users accounts.

-Original Message-
From: Aristotle Zoulas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 7:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: unread mail marked read by itself ?


Is this possible? Several members of the firm that I am consulting for claim
to have had this problem. They came in one morning several days ago and to
their surprise, mail that they NEVER read was marked as being read by
outlook. The firm is running  Exchange 5.5 with outlook as a client .

Some possibilities are: 1.)something happened to the internal database that
caused this error.2.) Someone within the company tampered with the mail and
read their mail, thus marking it as read. 3.) Perhaps their backup system
had something to do with it. They are doing brick level back ups using
Veritas 8.5.


#3 does not seem like an option since only two people, albeit high level IT
people, were affected. This also NEVER happened before.


Any help would be appreciated.


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RE: average lifespan server

[Doug Hampshire]

Ah yes, one must count on always having to defend one's budget. I would
actually worry if I didn't have to defend it.

Not knowing how you are set up or how big you are, I'll make some general
pointers here. Usually it's up to a manager/director/CIO to ultimately
defend the budget. And this needs to be done at the highest levels of the
accounting department, don't waste your time with the hirelings.

On an office move/rebuild, the decision to perform such a task should not be
finalized until feedback from all departments on the cost/impact of the move
is factored in. It's not like there is a good/better/best selection for
cabling, like you are picking an Earl Schibe paint job for your car. There
is an absolute minimum requirement and specification for a cable plant. Yes
there might be some nice extras you could include, but below a certain point
it is not supportable.

The one case where the above doesn't fly is when you are a fairly small
company and the owner has a cousin who knows this guy named Chewy who can do
the job for .20 on the dollar of what a real cable contractor would charge.
You can't win there, you pitch your case to the boss and then let him make
the decision. Working in a small company requires that you accept that there
of lots of decisions that may not seem wise, especially in the long run. But
then again sometimes that is the only way a small/new company can survive
and grow.

Being that Intas appears to be heavily involved in the scientific, research,
and project communities, they should understand a proper presentation of
costs, risks, expected outcomes, etc.

-Original Message-
From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: average lifespan server


yeah, but how do you educate them?
Thing is: a large scale refurbishment of the building is planned but I'm
gonna have to defend a budget for IT.  They don't even want to fork out for
decent cabling  If I have some best practices to back me up then at
least I have something to say...

K/

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 January, 2002 4:34 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: average lifespan server


Yes, but that person had no clue on real life in IT, and also reneged on
that claim when I pressed them to provide one example of a server they had
that was that old still running in a production.

The original question requires more parameters. Were they inquiring about
the general life span of a server? Or perhaps about the GAAP for
depreciation of servers. Was this for real world planning or budgeting
purposes? Perhaps they are looking for some best practices which might
include reassigning functionality (from file server to a BDC/DC to MP3
archive server) of a box as it ages.

If it the accounting department that can't grasp that a 3 year depreciation
schedule is appropriate rather than a 5 year schedule, they need some
education.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: average lifespan server



I remember someone around here not too long ago was speccing for 10 yrs...
 :)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: average lifespan server


> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 January 2002 10:00
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: average lifespan server
> 
> 
> how do you deal with your accounting department?  They can't grasp it 
> that a machine is worthless as a server after three years...

They don't? As much as I hate our whiny beancounters, they are actually
pretty good here at understanding computers depreciate in value to the point
of probably needing replacement after 3 years.

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RE: average lifespan server

[Doug Hampshire]

Yes, but that person had no clue on real life in IT, and also reneged on
that claim when I pressed them to provide one example of a server they had
that was that old still running in a production.

The original question requires more parameters. Were they inquiring about
the general life span of a server? Or perhaps about the GAAP for
depreciation of servers. Was this for real world planning or budgeting
purposes? Perhaps they are looking for some best practices which might
include reassigning functionality (from file server to a BDC/DC to MP3
archive server) of a box as it ages.

If it the accounting department that can't grasp that a 3 year depreciation
schedule is appropriate rather than a 5 year schedule, they need some
education.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 7:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: average lifespan server



I remember someone around here not too long ago was speccing for 10 yrs...
 :)

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 6:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: average lifespan server


> -Original Message-
> From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 24 January 2002 10:00
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: average lifespan server
> 
> 
> how do you deal with your accounting department?  They can't
> grasp it that a machine is worthless as a server after three years...

They don't? As much as I hate our whiny beancounters, they are actually
pretty good here at understanding computers depreciate in value to the point
of probably needing replacement after 3 years.

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RE: What would you buy?

[Doug Hampshire]

Acer baby. eMachines has some cool server stuff too.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 2:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: What would you buy?


Not nessicarily brand, cause I'm stuck with IBM.

Exchange 2000 server for roughly 1000 users, mailbox storage/OWA/KM not
smtp, limits around 100mb to 200mb( negotiable ) per mailbox, some public
folder usage under 5gig db.  Enviroment will have a projected growth of
20-27% anually.

Based on the previous IBM5000 w/2 p2-450's and the current IBM5100 w/2
p3-800 I was thinking of a quad xeon 900 with an oodle of drives and maybe
agrigated fiber cards.

What would you recommend for such a senario?

e-

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RE: High Physical Memory Utilization

[Doug Hampshire]

A system that is good for 5-8 years? So you are currently running systems
that were state of the art 5-8 years ago? Do you have Exchange running on a
486-DX2 with 128MB of RAM?

BTW, from a financial standpoint any system that old is already fully
depreciated. I suspect your support costs for continuing to support systems
that old, as well as the loss of productivity your users experience due to
hardware this old. I agree with the Buy the biggest system you can now, but
I'm just hoping to keep it running for 3 years until I've fully written it
off the books.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 7:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


So because you cannot afford to spec a server appropriately you decide it's
best to flame everyone else that can.

If your read the original post correctly you would have seen that I was
making a recommendation.  The recommendation allows for future growth of the
database and the least amount of hardware problems.  The fact that you
consider the hardware to be overkill shows you lack of experience.  I
recommended a system that should last 5-8 years.  What good does it do to
spec a system that barely meets your current needs?  

In addition, you are chastising me for convincing higher ups to purchase a
system that is in your opinion an overkillWouldn't this be considered an
asset?  Maybe you should evaluate your own tactics with upper management. 

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 8:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Someone would have to be on some good drugs to over-spec a server like that.
I guess we're the unfortunate bunch with actual "real" world budgets to work
with...  ;o)

D


-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 6:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


Ha ha ha ha LOL.

Crack pipe. Nice one Don.

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Network Support Analyst
Exchange Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 January 2002 14:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


What crack pipe are you smoking out of?  Those specs are way beyond what's
necessary!

D

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: High Physical Memory Utilization


400 Mailboxes and 1 gig of Ram does not sound right.  Your primary problem
is hardware.

This is my minimum recommendation for your hardware requirements.

Dual Pentium III 550 +
Separate Raid Controller running in Raid 5 config.  (2 partitions logical) 2
Gig physical memory. 3 Gig Page File on second partition Run optimizer and
move the databases and log files to 2nd partition.


-Original Message-
From: Frazer J Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: High Physical Memory Utilization


One of my colleagues recently reinstalled a 5.5 SP4 Exchange Server on NT4
SP5 (only Exchange was reinstalled) and have noticed that the Physical
Memory Utilization sits at around 99% (prior to the rebuild it was around
60%).  The server has about 400 mailboxes on it and has 1Gb of physical
memory and 1Gb page file.  It is the same spec as 4 other servers in the
site which all sit at around 60% utilization.  As it is a 24x7 service we
offer on our server, down time is very limited.  Is there any way I can
check the performance optimizer settings without stopping the store? Or are
there any other pointers that anyone can think of I can check?



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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Doug Hampshire]

I hear that ya'll take the day off in Chicago when Drew starts counting from
day zero. So 'bout every 2 years?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 11:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


At 12:40 PM 1/9/2002 -0600, WILLIAMS,JESSICA D wrote:
>Neaux.
>
>Also, the rest of the country doesn't take off work for Mardi Gras!

No, but here in Chicago we take off work for baseball games and good
weather.

Most of the natives I know spend Mardi Gras hiding from the tourists.


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RE: exchange server freezes

[Doug Hampshire]

Troubleshooting 101 - Change one item, evaluate outcome. If no workee, try
next configuration change, evaluate outcome. Still no workee, spend much $
with consultant (Andy's in New York and works for cheese and beer).

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


So reinstall service pack6a it is or reinstall Bexec?  m  Thinkin
thinkin Heads or Tails.  Heads I reinstall Bexec Tail reinstall SP6a

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Whoosh!



Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 15:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Ju-das Priest


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Im doing a registry backup, daily backup of two drives and a backup of the
accountants database 98pc

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


What exactly are you backing up?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 15:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Yes the backup does finish.  The server first showed that the backups were
still running then the server froze and I switched the button to turn off
the server.  After I restarted it showed that the backups completed
succesfully.

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Does the backup finish? If not What point during the backup does it hang?
Whats being backed up?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 15:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


One time I didtry to connect to server manager but I couldnt connect to the
server.  It seemed to me that the server somehow lost network connection.
Then I was able to open a few windows and then the server froze.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Are you sure its actually freezing?  Maybe your shell is just freaking out.
Next time it happens try to connect to it with server manager on another
machine and see if you can shutdown services gracefully.  Cold boot when
services are running makes me fear a DB corruption.

We had that happen here, and oddly enough the problem went away on its own.

e-

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes

I have to switch it off 

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Do you have to physically switch it off or does it still allow you to choose
shutdown and restart?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




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From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 14:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: exchange server freezes


My server which is nt 4.0 sp6a with exchange 5.5 has been freezing up for a
couple of odd days in a row this week.  I was just wondering if I were to
reappley SP6a would this prevent the problem.  I havent installed or removed
anything on this server for a long time.  I checked the event viewer and I
couldnt find anything that would cause the server to lockup over night.  It
is strange this ussually happens when no ones in the office and the backup
is running.  Maybe another solution would be to reinstall backup exec.  Not
sure any suggestions.

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: exchange server freezes

[Doug Hampshire]

Breaking the law,
Breaking the law.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:36 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Ju-das Priest


-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:32 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Im doing a registry backup, daily backup of two drives and a backup of the
accountants database 98pc

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


What exactly are you backing up?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 15:14
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Yes the backup does finish.  The server first showed that the backups were
still running then the server froze and I switched the button to turn off
the server.  After I restarted it showed that the backups completed
succesfully.

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 10:08 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Does the backup finish? If not What point during the backup does it hang?
Whats being backed up?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 15:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


One time I didtry to connect to server manager but I couldnt connect to the
server.  It seemed to me that the server somehow lost network connection.
Then I was able to open a few windows and then the server froze.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Are you sure its actually freezing?  Maybe your shell is just freaking out.
Next time it happens try to connect to it with server manager on another
machine and see if you can shutdown services gracefully.  Cold boot when
services are running makes me fear a DB corruption.

We had that happen here, and oddly enough the problem went away on its own.

e-

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 6:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes

I have to switch it off 

-Original Message-
From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 9:38 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: exchange server freezes


Do you have to physically switch it off or does it still allow you to choose
shutdown and restart?

Regards

Mr Louis Joyce
Computer Support Analyst
Network Administrator
BT Ignite eSolutions




-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 09 January 2002 14:35
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: exchange server freezes


My server which is nt 4.0 sp6a with exchange 5.5 has been freezing up for a
couple of odd days in a row this week.  I was just wondering if I were to
reappley SP6a would this prevent the problem.  I havent installed or removed
anything on this server for a long time.  I checked the event viewer and I
couldnt find anything that would cause the server to lockup over night.  It
is strange this ussually happens when no ones in the office and the backup
is running.  Maybe another solution would be to reinstall backup exec.  Not
sure any suggestions.

Thanks 
Rich

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RE: fix monitor

[Doug Hampshire]

I need some new photos to post though. Andy, did you get a digital camera
yet? 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:28 AM
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Subject: RE: fix monitor



Yes... you can all stop searching the archive now, and thank Doug.
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
"One man's ceiling is another man's floor"


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Is this pictures of you Kelly? http://kellyborndale.homestead.com/photo.html

Jerry W. Hubbard
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:35 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
>
>
>
> Who, me?  I belly dance, and that is generally done barefoot. 
> ~
> -K.Borndale
> Network Administrator
> Sybari Software
> 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> 631.439.0689 -fax
> http://www.sybari.com
> "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
>
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>
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>
> Roger:
>
>Has she flamencos danced on you with her high heels?
>
> John Matteson; Exchange Manager
> Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
> (404) 239 - 2981
> Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing 
> because wise men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious
> doctrine. Believe
> it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
>
>
> Dude - Ms. Baker can take you. Trust me.
>
> And please know from experience you don't want to be on her "special" 
> list.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.peregrine.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:18 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: fix monitor
> >
> >
> > Sorry, but you forgot to add your "Kelly Only" disclaimer, so you 
> > can't make any threats.
> >
> > If, in the future, you want to send messages for only Kelly to read, 
> > you should add the following:
> >
> > Warning: This message was intended for Kelly only. Anyone else 
> > reading this message will die.
> >
> > Of course, you should probably run it by legal and have them punch 
> > it up a bit. But then you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else 
> > on the list reading your messages for Kelly. 8-{)>
> >
> > ...Joel
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Doug Hampshire]

Comfort her by explaining that the History list means nothing, but the
Websense logs you have on her are very informative and revealing.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


The longer I spend on the phone with her trying to explain that the History
list in your browser doesn't mean that Microsoft has a list of every website
she's gone to (as far as she knows anyhow) the less time I have to get my
kayak in the water and enjoy some sunshine.

If it wasn't all these pesky users our job would be much easier. :)

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> Being that you are on Aloha Time Ben, no worries then.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:04 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> I had a user begin her call today with
> 
>   "You know the Internet?" 
> 
> Give-away #17 that this is going to be a long call.
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> > 
> > 
> > That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of
> this list or
> > the ability to vent like some of us do, I can envision some users
> > getting Squashed when they call and say "the entire 
> internet is down
> > come fix it now" Thomas is very correct. The top of the
> exchange world
> > visits this list.
> > 
> > --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> > Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
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> > 
> > 
> > You've got to be kidding...
> > The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> > This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful 
> > nerds..
> > -
> > Previously from Thomas Nardo:
> >  
> > 
> > If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list
> > (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this 
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> > in my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world
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RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Doug Hampshire]

Being that you are on Aloha Time Ben, no worries then.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


I had a user begin her call today with 

"You know the Internet?" 

Give-away #17 that this is going to be a long call.

Aloha,

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 6:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> That is what makes this list great. With out the humor of
> this list or the ability to vent like some of us do, I can 
> envision some users getting Squashed when they call and say 
> "the entire internet is down come fix it now" Thomas is very 
> correct. The top of the exchange world visits this list.
> 
> --Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond
> Drive thru Admin, Would you like Fries with that?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of 
> Kevin
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and 
> scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>  
> 
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different
> list (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes 
> this list great in my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the 
> Exchange world is here. Did you run home with your ball when 
> the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
> ---
> 
> 
> 
> 
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RE: fix monitor

[Doug Hampshire]

Daniel, you can see many photos of Kelly on her Website. The link is in the
archives.

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 1:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: fix monitor


Kelly barefoot... bellydance... 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:34 PM
Subject: RE: fix monitor


>
> Who, me?  I belly dance, and that is generally done barefoot. 
> ~
> -K.Borndale
> Network Administrator
> Sybari Software
> 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> 631.439.0689 -fax
> http://www.sybari.com
> "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
>
>
> |+--->
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>
>
>
> Roger:
>
>Has she flamencos danced on you with her high heels?
>
> John Matteson; Exchange Manager
> Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
> (404) 239 - 2981
> Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing 
> because wise men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious 
> doctrine.
Believe
> it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:27 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
>
>
> Dude - Ms. Baker can take you. Trust me.
>
> And please know from experience you don't want to be on her "special"
list.
>
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Senior Systems Administrator
> Peregrine Systems
> Atlanta, GA
> http://www.peregrine.com
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:18 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: fix monitor
> >
> >
> > Sorry, but you forgot to add your "Kelly Only" disclaimer, so you 
> > can't make any threats.
> >
> > If, in the future, you want to send messages for only Kelly to read, 
> > you should add the following:
> >
> > Warning: This message was intended for Kelly only. Anyone else 
> > reading this message will die.
> >
> > Of course, you should probably run it by legal and have them punch 
> > it up a bit. But then you wouldn't have to worry about anyone else 
> > on the list reading your messages for Kelly. 8-{)>
> >
> > ...Joel
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:43 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: fix monitor
> >
> >
> > That was for Kelly only...now you must die.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:39 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: fix monitor
> >
> >
> > Did someone say lightsaber?
> >
> > ___
> > John Bowles
> > Exchange Administrator
> > Enterprise Support & Engineering
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:37 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: fix monitor
> >
> >
> > The real question is: Are you willing to try it?
> >
> > That was for the light saber thing. 
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:29 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: fix monitor
> >
> >
> >
> > Would that taste like chicken too? 
> > ~
> > -K.Borndale
> > Network Administrator
> > Sybari Software
> > 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> > 631.439.0689 -fax
> > http://www.sybari.com
> > "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mmm... fried Tener
> >
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> > Tech Consultant
> > Compaq Computer
> > "There are seldom good tech

RE: fix monitor

[Doug Hampshire]

Where does the line form? Behind Andy I assume.

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 10:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Roger:

Has she flamencos danced on you with her high heels?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha



-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: fix monitor


Dude - Ms. Baker can take you. Trust me.

And please know from experience you don't want to be on her "special" list.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Osborn, Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 9:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> Sorry, but you forgot to add your "Kelly Only" disclaimer, so
> you can't make any threats.
> 
> If, in the future, you want to send messages for only Kelly
> to read, you should add the following:
> 
> Warning: This message was intended for Kelly only. Anyone
> else reading this message will die.
> 
> Of course, you should probably run it by legal and have them
> punch it up a bit. But then you wouldn't have to worry about 
> anyone else on the list reading your messages for Kelly. 8-{)>
> 
> ...Joel
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 9:43 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> That was for Kelly only...now you must die.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bowles, John L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> Did someone say lightsaber?
> 
> ___
> John Bowles
> Exchange Administrator
> Enterprise Support & Engineering
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 10:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> The real question is: Are you willing to try it?
> 
> That was for the light saber thing. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 7:29 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> 
> Would that taste like chicken too?
> ~
> -K.Borndale
> Network Administrator
> Sybari Software
> 631.630.8569 -direct dial
> 631.439.0689 -fax
> http://www.sybari.com
> "One man's ceiling is another man's floor"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mmm... fried Tener
> 
> Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> Tech Consultant
> Compaq Computer
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral
> problems."
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Davis
> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 8:15 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: fix monitor
> 
> 
> I realize I am late to this discussion, as I have read many
> catapult references, however I don't think it was addressed. 
> I am relatively new To the Exchange World, only a year and a 
> half working with it. But I have Been involved with 
> Networking and Computers in general for the last 12 years. I 
> got my start (as probably did everyone here) working on hardware.
> 
> Richard, I can tell you there are most certainly no user
> serviceable parts In a monitor. And Opening one up can be 
> Fatal. The Flyback Capacitor Can hold a charge of several 
> thousand volts for years. There is more than enough Voltage 
> there to severely burn you, if not kill you. Like everyone 
> one else Here has said, it's cheaper to buy a new one, then 
> get an old one fixed. Unless.You live near a High 
> School that has a Vocational Education Program that 
> specializes in Electronics. These kinds of schools Will 
> usually Fix the equipment at no charge save for parts.
> 
> Just An idea.
> 
> Ken
> 
> Kenneth Davis
> IT Manager
> American Wood Moulding, LLC
> 
> "For a moment, nothing happened.
> Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 10:58 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: fix monitor
> 
> 
> 
> for all u hardware/monitor geniuses out there do u know a
> good place on the web to tell me how to open/fix a monitor?
> 
> _

RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Doug Hampshire]

Sh!t rolling downhill from senior management:  ***
Sh!t that I let to continue rolling down hill to team:  *

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 9:00 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


Although his title makes my job a lot harder. I need to include graphs in
all my communication with him.


My Workload:
Doug's Workload:*

Can I take that * off your plate, Doug?[1]


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com

[1] Seriously, I'm just kidding. Give it to Jeffe[2]
[2] he had free time yesterday



> -Original Message-
> From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:52 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> Someone needs to get laid...
> 
> Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My
> title includes word manager and as many can testify that 
> automajikally makes me a comedian.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)
> 
> 
> You've got to be kidding...
> The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list.
> This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and 
> scornful nerds..
> -
> Previously from Thomas Nardo:
>  
> 
> If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different
> list (maybe the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes 
> this list great in my opinion. Everyone who is anyone in the 
> Exchange world is here. Did you run home with your ball when 
> the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
> ---
> 
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> 
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RE: Blocking spam

[Doug Hampshire]

See Andy Webb's sig for a suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Something like:

Congratulations!!! You've been selected by our steering committee to handle
our AD design and implementation. Our selection was not based just on the
$$$'s you will save us, but due to your experience and understanding. We
look forward to working with you.

(Still can't figure out how to work XXX in there)

> -Original Message-
> From: Dillon, Jeff [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 11:25 AM
> To:   Exchange Discussions
> Subject:  RE: Blocking spam
> 
> Our 98%-effective content filter is simple enough!!!
> 
> 1) First line of msg ends in !, !!, or especially !!!
> 2) "Just $"
> 3) "You've been selected"
> 4) "XXX" gets the rest
> 
> This lets through the subscribed JOD about the two soaking-wet coeds 
> who rescued a 9-inch rooster from a pond--thereby keeping everyone 
> happy.
> 
> << If this message reached you in error because YOUR content filter 
> differs from the above, reply to www.spamusforever.ru  Include your 
> MasterCard number and mother's maiden name for verification >>
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 6:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> 
> 
> Not a solution in my environment, unfortunately. :)  They're still 
> going to be getting a ton of spam (from their previous indiscretions) 
> and they'll still insist upon me fixing (or at least reducing) that 
> somehow.  In our case the answer is content filtering and the 
> attendant problems that go with
> it.
> 
> Luckily we've tuned (and continue to tune) our filters fairly well and 
> catch very little legitimate mail in it.  I'd guess we spend maybe 15 
> minutes a day skimming through the quarantine and releasing stuff 
> that's legit (deleting the rest of it).
> 
> We also don't catch all spam, of course, but we catch a lot of it.  
> And we do block more or less all of the dangerous attachment 
> extensions.
> 
> Aloha,
> 
> -Ben-
> Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> Director of Information Services
> Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:14 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > No, you say "that sucks, you shouldn't have done that", then
> > shake your head slowly and walk away. :)
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:19 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > 
> > 
> > Once the horse is out of the barn, though, what do you do?
> > Make them get all new e-mail addresses?
> > 
> > -Ben-
> > Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
> > Director of Information Services
> > Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
> > http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:53 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I agree. It is dead on accurate.
> > > When I started here we had content filtering. And I had to
> > do the same
> > > thing. I slowly started turning off the filters and now the
> > only thing
> > > it does is extension blocking. I explained to management
> > and my users
> > > why this was happening to them and how they had done it to
> > themselves
> > > and how they should fooble their email addys if they don't
> > want to get
> > > on a list and everything is happy now.
> > > 
> > > Bottom line: Its about user education in my book.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Jesse Rink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:48 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Blocking spam
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You know, this has to be the best email I've read here and have
> > > archived it for the day when my boss demands content 
> > filtering on our
> > > exchange server, heh.
> > > 
> > > > You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you 
> > > > would have seen that this very issue was discussed in at least
> > > two threads.
> > > > 
> > > > There's nothing you can do until you show your users how
> > > they actually
> > > > get on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid
> > > > behavior that gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and 
> > only then
> > > > your spam input will decrease.
> > > > 
> > > > Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you
> > > have ScanMail
> > > > already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  
> > > > Rest
> > > > assured that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the 
> > > > 

RE: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)

[Doug Hampshire]

Someone needs to get laid...

Actually, I'm not a wanna be comedian, I'm officially one. My title includes
word manager and as many can testify that automajikally makes me a comedian.

-Original Message-
From: Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 8:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Sarcasm makes this list great (Not)


You've got to be kidding...
The excessive sarcasm is what ruins this list. 
This list contains far too many wannabee comedians and scornful nerds..
-
Previously from Thomas Nardo:
 

If you can't hack the sarcasm, you might consider a different list (maybe
the carebears one). The sarcasm is what makes this list great in my opinion.
Everyone who is anyone in the Exchange world is here. Did you run home with
your ball when the other kids noticed you had highwaters?
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RE: Blocking spam

[Doug Hampshire]

Silly boy, why would delete all the timeless and practical correspondence
that is jam packed into each and every issue here on the "Where is MEC next
year?" list? Of course the truly ambitious and forward looking
administrators would subscribe a Public Folder in addition to his personal
address and have all mail sent to the PF, whilst setting his personal
account subscription to the No Mail Option (thereby letting one post from
ones personal account whilst still receiving all the important incoming
eMail is the PF). Nay, whilst thou will not only be creating a valuable and
informative trove of Exchange information in the PF, one mayest gather
enough information to deduce the true nature of the Secret Cabal. [1]

[1] Hint: There is no secret cabal. But for 12 Ovaltine labels (and $2.95 in
shipping) you can obtain your own Secret Cabal Decoder Ring [2]
[2] That looks suspiciously like a Little Orphan Annie Ovaltine Secret
Decoder Ring [3]
[3] And everyone knows what all the secret messages from Little Orphan Annie
were..right?

-Original Message-
From: Dustin Krysak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


Thanks for the information. I was on holidays, and set my mailbox to delete
all from this list - so that I would not have a ton of messages upon return.

  Dustin




-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: January 7, 2002 12:57 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Blocking spam


You know, if you had been reading the list for one week, you would have seen
that this very issue was discussed in at least two threads.  

There's nothing you can do until you show your users how they actually get
on people's sh!t lists.  If you can teach them how to avoid behavior that
gets them on people's sh!t lists, then and only then your spam input will
decrease.  

Sure, you can install something like eManager (since you have ScanMail
already, it's a cheap buy) but that just masks the problem.  Rest assured
that Richard Cranium in accounting will subscribe to the cooking channel
mailing list, or Jenny the Office Manager will forward the "Good Luck Totem"
to everybody in her address book.  At that point Richard and Jenny will
complain even louder when they receive spam because the content filter that
YOU put in place doesn't work.  Then Johnny the PHB will tell you to
increase the effectiveness of your content filter or lose your job.  You'll
do it and Richard and Jenny will complain to Johnny that they are not
receiving business critical e-mails.  Then Johnny will order you to go
through all blocked messages and forward anything that is business critical.
Soon, you'll discover that you can't do anything else but review the
quarantined messages.  You'll advise Johnny the PHB to promote Avi the
OfficeBoy to "Information Delivery Specialist" position where he can go
through all the messages so you can go back to installing service packs.
Should I go on?

S.



-Original Message-
From: Dustin Krysak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Blocking spam


Hi there - our office is getting hit with a bunch of spam (to our users)

I was wondering what other people are doing to filter out junk mail, adult
content, etc before it hit's their exchange server.

We have:

A sonicwall coming in...
W2K with exchange 5.5 SP 4
And trend scan mail.

Thanks in advance!

Dustin


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RE: Containers

[Doug Hampshire]

Tragic farm equipment accidents of course.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Containers


What container do you have me in?


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 2:55 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Containers


I put them all into containers based on attractiveness. First all guys go
into one container since I don't rate guys on attractiveness (YMMV). 

Then I put all IT chicks into a container called Totally Hot. As evidence
for this, may I point out Kelly, Kimmie, Missy, Jennifer, Michele (yes, I'm
missing that damned accent character), Darcy, and several other members of
this list that I have met over the years. After that I place all other women
in containers after a subjective review based on my own personal tastes.
After all, it's all about me.

This method only fails if someone has a sex change operation or has plastic
surgery that goes horribly wrong. Tragic farm equipment accidents can affect
the outcome also.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Containers


What nightmare do you create by using different containers?

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Containers


Just use the recipients container. You will create a nightmare for your self
if you do anything else.


-Original Message-
From: Sparrow, Teresa (GOT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Containers

Wanting to gather information.

In a large Exchange 5.5 environment organization would you place everyone in
the recipients container or make different containers for organizational
levels?




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RE: Containers

[Doug Hampshire]

I put them all into containers based on attractiveness. First all guys go
into one container since I don't rate guys on attractiveness (YMMV). 

Then I put all IT chicks into a container called Totally Hot. As evidence
for this, may I point out Kelly, Kimmie, Missy, Jennifer, Michele (yes, I'm
missing that damned accent character), Darcy, and several other members of
this list that I have met over the years. After that I place all other women
in containers after a subjective review based on my own personal tastes.
After all, it's all about me.

This method only fails if someone has a sex change operation or has plastic
surgery that goes horribly wrong. Tragic farm equipment accidents can affect
the outcome also.

-Original Message-
From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:21 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Containers


What nightmare do you create by using different containers?

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas Di Nardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Containers


Just use the recipients container. You will create a nightmare for your self
if you do anything else.


-Original Message-
From: Sparrow, Teresa (GOT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Containers

Wanting to gather information.

In a large Exchange 5.5 environment organization would you place everyone in
the recipients container or make different containers for organizational
levels?




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RE: Greetings All

[Doug Hampshire]

You can ask about any version here, but there is also a dedicated E2K
mailing list. You can find the FAQ, as well as subscribe instructions at
http://www.exchange-mail.org/faq.html.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:51 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Greetings All


Hello,

I just joined this list, but I belonged the ASP list for several years now,
on the Swynk website.

Since this Listserver is named "Exchange" - that tells me that I can ask
questions about ALL versions of Exchange?  Is that true, or are there any
specific Listservers for Exchange 2K?

Thanks in advance,

Mike


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RE: Another CA Problem

[Doug Hampshire]

It sounds like you did everything correctly up until the installation point.
It is a generally recommended best practice to not actually install any CA
product on your systems. They function best if the shrink wrap is left
unbroken on the package. If you have accidentally installed any CA products
on your systems, I've found that reformatting your system is the only way to
truly uninstall the product. Their uninstall processes never works.

-Original Message-
From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 9:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Another CA Problem


Another problem I seem to have every so often with InoculateIT.  After I
apply one of their Signature updates.  I do all required steps to install
the patch.  I stop the services and make sure the RTExch.exe files are all
stopped, then I apply the patch, and restart my services.  Well after a few
hours I notice that my server is pegged at 100% and I look at the Task
Manager and the RTExch.exe's that are running are using alot of cpu.  Am I
doing something wrong.  Is the process just a runaway, or is it actually
doing something.  I have check my event log and there have been no Virus
stops, and my InoculateIT accounts do show any signs of being in use.  I am
running a NT 4.0 server SP6a, with Exchange 5.5 SP4.

Chris

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RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone

[Doug Hampshire]

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 7:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone


As does mine. They repeated go offline for days at a time. The worst part is
that they are paying someone else to run it for them, and they still do a
p*ss poor job of it.

Oh, its Exchange too.. I keep asking to take them on as a side job. One
server, and they are 10 minutes from the house. I could do it in my spare
time!

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Senior Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems
Atlanta, GA
http://www.peregrine.com


> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 12:31 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone
> 
> 
> My wife works for a school district. Her email hasn't worked
> for 3 months. I have even offered to fix it for the whole 
> district for free, just so I can email her.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:32 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone
> 
> 
> Oh I forgot to mention. It's a school district so if you have
> any experience
> 
> with them then you know what fun it is. On the plus side a 4
> weeks project 
> is on it's 5th month.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >At this point, I'd probably stand back and let them try it and see if 
> >it works.  Doesn't seem like they pay attention to your
> recommendations
> >anyway.
> >
> >Ed Crowley
> >Compaq Computer
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
> >Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:14 AM
> >To: Exchange Discussions
> >Subject: Demoting a E2K/2K server to standalone
> >
> >
> >When I first deployed E2K on a single 2000 server for a customer, I 
> >told
> >
> >them that this is not the best way but they had no budget for any 
> >additional servers. Since then they decided to have OWA as their 
> >primary client and
> >
> >install Verisn SSL all on the same box which also obviously
> is running
> >as a DC. There about 1000 + users and 3/4 will be using OWA. Current
> >server HP
> >LPRII with PIII 1ghz, 512MB and a 18GB Raid 5. I am worried about
> >performance. Talked them into purchasing at least one 
> another box to off
> >
> >load services. My intention was to make the new server a DC
> controller
> >and demote the current E2K to a member server. Also move OWA
> and SSL on
> >to the
> >other box. If so then I would need Enterprise version to enable 
> >Front/Back
> >end then?   Also they may throw in another 512MB and another 
> processor
> >to
> >the original server. Any comments appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
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RE: New year, no contract

[Doug Hampshire]

Yes, but what is that in Euros?

-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:00 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: New year, no contract


£25/hour is about US$37.50/hour.

Ed Crowley
Compaq Computer

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Tony Hlabse
Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: New year, no contract


25/per hour??? Beer must be really cheap there too. 


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Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 3:36 PM
Subject: OT: New year, no contract


> Hi folks...
> 
> Off topic for the list, but what the hell, it's christmas.
> 
> Since ORB UK is now closed pending the creation of Horus, that means
> I'm out of contract now.
> 
> I'm 30, been using MS since before they bought DOS, and I'm a
> Microsoft Partner in my own right.
> 
> I have experience in Windows from 3.1 to ME, OS/2 and NT from 2.1 to
> XP, DOS'en from 3.3 to 7.1, and Linux. I also use BeOS, MacOS X, 
> FreeBSD and SVR4. My current 'learning experience' is QNX.
> 
> I have experience of Sendmail, QMail, Exim, Exchange 5 and 5.5, and
> Mailtraq, and have used SPTM, POP3, APOP, ETRN and ODMR.
> 
> I've been doing telephone and deskside support for the better end of 4

> years, and was part of the support team during the launch of Telewest
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> as well as Leased Line, Routed Solutions and Plain Old dial-up. Sad 
> though I am, I can identify a modem model and a RAS by ear. With 
> Lucent Portmasters, I can even tell the ComOs release by listening to 
> it.
> 
> I'm based in Basingstoke, UK, but don't mind commuting, consulting,
> homeworking, Remote Adminning, or even travelling if the price is 
> right. I'll do Contract or Permanent, and would be looking for ?25 per

> hour for Contract or ?35,000 per annum for permanent.
> 
> If you want more info, or a CV, please email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Many thanks all.
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RE: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001

[Doug Hampshire]

Where's MEC next year?

Why U no answer me?

-Original Message-
From: Garrish, Robert B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:26 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Top Ten Statements or Phrases - Year 2001


Dear DL Members,

What were the top ten posts, statements, or phrases of Year 2001?


Rob Garrish
Exchange Administrator
Wawa Inc.
610-558-8371
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RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

[Doug Hampshire]

I think he meant the Secret Cabal handshake. Oh wait, there is no Secret
Cabal.

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


::High Five::

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:57 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


We ain't huggin!  ;o)  How about a secret handshake or something?  

D

"Incompetence: When you Earnestly Believe you can compensate for a lack of
skill by doubling your efforts, there's no end to what you can't do." - -
http://www.despair.com

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Id give you a big hug if it wouldn't be all awkward, then would have to
punch each other to maintain a manly appearance.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Sorry bud, but you're likely to make Martin mad since it's his list.  Though
everyone's should look about the same with varying differences here and
there.

D

"Saving the world from Brick Level Backups and PST's" - Ed Crowley

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I am using that, and got file blocking really tricked out with Don Ely's
list of attachments to block! 
Thanks for everyone's input. I will try to talk then into keeping scanmail,
and using NAV for servers and clients as a compromise. If they don't go for
it, I will hope for a trouble free system like Tom and James have(but will
keep Scanmail handy just incase) 
Thanks!
Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:28 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Using AVAPI and File Blocking? If not, you should be.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I have version 3.52 with 5.5 sp4 on a Win2k Advanced server SP2. 

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Ron, what version of Scanmail are you running and what SP is your Exch
server on?

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5


I feel the same way. I really researched for the best solution back then,
and scanmail it has proven to be great...no crashed servers, no bluescreens
etc. We did have a few outbreaks, but that was I think due to scanmail being
on a P-133 and not being able to keep up with the influx. IF I can build a
strong enough case against NAV for scanning...and just do the server/client
side solution only, that would be great. I almost want to install it, and
have things crash for them not asking me about this...but IM the one that
has to recover the thing! :( Ron

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: NAV for Exchange 5.5

Going from Scanmail to NAV is like going from Prime Rib to ground round
Your company will be very sorry it made this move. Since you already have
Scanmail, there is no reason to dump it. I would SERIOUSLY put my foot down
on this and fight it all the way to the top.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NAV for Exchange 5.5


Hi Folks,
I just found out we are going with The Norton Solution for our company
anti-virus protection. This is fine for server and client, but I was also
told we would be using NAV's solution for Exchange. (Groupware I think). 
Since I was not involved in this decision, but was the sole decision maker
when I chose Scanmail...im not too happy. But...I turn to y'all again, as I
did a few years ago for info on the best AV solution. This time I'm asking
what kind of problems will I see with this new NAV scan engine that was
chosen for MY Email servers? Is the NAV a solid, non-flaky product for
Exchange? I couldn't really find anything major from the net..but y'all
would know best. 
Thanks!
Ron





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RE: anyone know

[Doug Hampshire]

I'm rootin' for the Longhorns myself, not that I really care being a native
So Cal boy. I just like Major and Texas in general. I also spent one year in
Washington (Ellensburg) and froze my ass off the whole time so I generally
have negative memories. But the tickets, food, and beer are all free [1]. 

[1] I'm just a vendor 'ho

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


Go Huskies!!

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


Yep, and the Huskies are going to whoop on the Longhorn's! [1] ;o)

D

[1] Or so I hope they do...[2]
[2] Dr. Dogg, where are you? [3]
[3] He's probably suffering the "BAS" syndrome [4]
[4] HI SHERRY!!!  ;o)

"The true test of character is not how much we know how to do, but how we
behave when we don't know what to do." -John Holt

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


 Ramming speed gentlemen, and load the fish taco torpedoes. [1]

[1] Of course firing them AWAY from Andy's general direction inflicting much
pain on him. [2] [2] You know, I think I'll go have Rubio's at Qualcomm
Stadium later today [3] [3] Holiday Bowl today you know.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


Ah yes. I remember them on the Ed Sullivan Show.
"The Singing Pilgrims".


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


It's something the Pilgrims singed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


What is a Compaq?

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


hold on let me check

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


What does the network admin say?  Seriously what does it say in the Compaq
array config util?  

>>>-Original Message-
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>>>Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:35 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: anyone know
>>>
>>>
>>>I have 4 18.2 gig scsi drives and one of the lights on the 4th drive
>>>is not lit up  and the server is a compaq prol ml370.  Does this mean 
>>>the hard drive failed. Thanks
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RE: anyone know

[Doug Hampshire]

 Ramming speed gentlemen, and load the fish taco torpedoes. [1]

[1] Of course firing them AWAY from Andy's general direction inflicting much
pain on him. [2]
[2] You know, I think I'll go have Rubio's at Qualcomm Stadium later today
[3]
[3] Holiday Bowl today you know.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:24 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


Ah yes. I remember them on the Ed Sullivan Show.
"The Singing Pilgrims".


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 1:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


It's something the Pilgrims singed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


What is a Compaq?

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


hold on let me check

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


What does the network admin say?  Seriously what does it say in the Compaq
array config util?  

>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:35 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: anyone know
>>>
>>>
>>>I have 4 18.2 gig scsi drives and one of the lights on the 4th drive 
>>>is not lit up  and the server is a compaq prol ml370.  Does this mean 
>>>the hard drive failed.
>>>Thanks
>>>
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RE: anyone know

[Doug Hampshire]

It's something the Pilgrims singed.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


What is a Compaq?

-Original Message-
From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


hold on let me check

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:43 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: anyone know


What does the network admin say?  Seriously what does it say in the Compaq
array config util?  

>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:35 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: anyone know
>>>
>>>
>>>I have 4 18.2 gig scsi drives and one of the lights on the
>>>4th drive is not lit up  and the server is a compaq prol 
>>>ml370.  Does this mean the hard drive failed.  
>>>Thanks
>>>
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RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange

[Doug Hampshire]

I'm having a little trouble here. I wonder several things based on that
statement, including; why would you stay there, why the CIO/IT Director
would allow such idiocy, what failed dot.com did the admin that blocks
microsoft.com came from, and why would you stay there? [1]

[1] Yes Andy, I said that same thing twice.

-Original Message-
From: Craig Manske [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange


Sorry our admin proxys out microsoft.com, he says since they're criminals he
rates their site right up there with hacking and porn sites. :)

-cm

> -Original Message-
> From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
> 
> 
> Gee, ever been to www.microsoft.com/exchange ?
> 
> "If a trainstation is where the train stops, what's a
> workstation...?" -Anon
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:45 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
> 
> 
> Don where all the white papers at!!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
> 
> 
> I dont have a big enough tape drive to do a full back this suxs
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
> 
> 
> Personally I backup EVERYTHING on the Exch server
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 8:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Backup exec 8.5 for exchange
> 
> 
> 
> Hello All,
>   
>   I have backup exec 8.5 with exchange client installed
> on a NT Server
> SP6.  I would like to know if I have to back up the exchange 
> directories
> located under the c drive.  Because I have exchange agent 
> installed and I
> tell it to back it up Full I should be backing these 
> directories up allready
> right.  So if I go under selections can I uncheck the 
> exchsrvr diectory and
> still backup this IS. 
> 
> Thanks
> Rich
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RE: Perhaps Someone could post a link explaining how to prevent y our

[Doug Hampshire]

Turning off OOF to the Internet is not possible at many places. Take our
company for instance, the Sales and PS forces drives the business case for
turning it on. The correct method in those cases is to follow my post for
earlier today about subscribing 2 accounts; a PF and your own mailbox.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Perhaps Someone could post a link explaining how to prevent y
our




Thank you guys for the info. I knew how already.
I asked with a bit of sarcasm because my earlier post
resulted in 15 out of office replies.

Ken

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Perhaps Someone could post a link explaining how to prevent
your


Which version of Exchange?

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RE: Preventing Hacks

[Doug Hampshire]

A) Turn off the box. That always resolves file is inaccessible problems.
B) Provide some actual detail on the list server, platform/OS/version/etc.
C) Securing a specific software item is never a broad question, it's very
specific. Find the resources that are dedicated to that software be it
mailing list or newsgroup or vendor.

-Original Message-
From: Desmond Witherspoon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2001 7:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Preventing Hacks


I know this is a broad question but I just want a general overview. How
would you go about securing a list server from outside malicious attacks.
'I'm almost certain that I found how they got in but the "file is
inaccessible" because its 
in use. I need help, bad!!


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RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

[Doug Hampshire]

All of the S&M duties are handled by a different group here, we call them
M&A. Interestingly enough even though they handle all the S&M duties, we in
IT still get screwed with each new deal.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


I usually carry a network cable with me.  Which tells them I'm either a)
fixing a network problem or b) on my way to an S&M party.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Be sure when walking through the office to always have a piece of paper in
your hand. Look serious and keep referring it to it as you walk.

-Original Message-
From: Dillon, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Easily counteracted by HHCLB [1]

[1] Here He Comes--Look Busy

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 1:49 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


I've mastered sleeping with my eyes open. I only wake up for the daily lunch
time Unreal Tournament slaughter.

Today I'm employing my favorite manager technique, MBWA [1]

[1] Manage By Wandering Around

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Don't jinx it. The mangers are sleeping.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Sure is quiet today.

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RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?

[Doug Hampshire]

I've mastered sleeping with my eyes open. I only wake up for the daily lunch
time Unreal Tournament slaughter.

Today I'm employing my favorite manager technique, MBWA [1]

[1] Manage By Wandering Around

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Don't jinx it. The mangers are sleeping.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2001 12:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Is that a tumbleweed rolling by?


Sure is quiet today.

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RE: OOF to this list

[Doug Hampshire]

Especially with the holidays upon us, I really enjoy all those OOF messages
from people too lazy to subscribe to the list in a manner that shows they
know how to work and play well with others.

For those offenders that don't seem to understand, here is a brief
explanation.
1. Set up a Public Folder and subscribe THAT address to the list to
receive eMail. See the FAQ if you need more info on accomplishing this step.
2. Set up your own personal address and set it to NOT receive any
eMail from the list. This still allows you to post to the list.

My 2 favorite OOF's that I received today were from Dan Aalberg whose OOF
was completely blank, and from James Clayton whose message states that not
only is he out, but their entire IT organization is out. Hello...Mc
Fly...that's like saying "please come hack me 'cuz no one is watching the
store".

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RE: Haiku Friday

[Doug Hampshire]

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 2:12 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday

I had a browser opened to monster.com whenever my manager visited my office.

I created a rule that responded to every piece of email from my manager with
the subject line "Groupshield Sucks".
Every time I was called in the wee hours of the morning about an Exchange
problem that was a result of Groupshield updates or scanning, I called my
manager and woke him up.

Disclaimer: These methods are not recommended and may cause undesired
results.

-Original Message-
From: Aarts, Jan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Way to Go...
How did you do that ?

-Original Message-
From: Jennifer Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Haiku Friday


Sybari will reign
In my environment soon
Groupshield, kiss my ass.

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RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard

[Doug Hampshire]

Well since you kind of apologized.

We prefer Exmerge [1] over Move Server. We have found that we can be at the
bar drinking much quicker with the Exmerge process.

[1] Especially with the Iron Chef Exmerge-Roger Seielstad add-on module

-Original Message-
From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


Ok, so I give.  M$ was meant to convey Microsoft.  Is this better - MS 
Exchange Move Server Wizard?

I've been reading this column for the last year now.  I knew to expect the 
sarcasm, but I was also hoping to benefit from your global wisdom.

Thanks and Merry Christmas to all.

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RE: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard

[Doug Hampshire]

It's not his fault folks. After all he works for $tinson, Mag, & Fizzell - a
law firm. And we all know that law firms give away their services. They are
a pure Pro Bono firm correct?

-Original Message-
From: Keith Beahm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: M$ Exchange Move Server Wizard


We are preparing to merge with another firm that is also using Exchange 
v5.5.  We are all W2K SP2 with Exchange v5.5 SP4, and they are all NT6 SP6 
with Exchange v5.5 SP4.  Once we have joined NT domains we will need a tool 
to combine the two Exchange systems, and the Move Server Wizard looks like 
just that tool.  We also have the option to ExMerge all data out to PSTs and

join the two systems that way, but assuming the wizard works correctly it 
seems preferable.  Has anyone had any experiences with this - good or bad?  
Any comments from people who have been through a similar scenario that may 
have solved the issue differently would also be appreciated.

Keith Beahm
Network Engineer
Stinson Mag & Fizzell
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RE: Does anyone know...

[Doug Hampshire]

The last time I spoke with Amit he indicated that he was going to buy you
one at Qualcomm stadium during the farewell to Tony Gwynn game. Apparently
you stood him up.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:28 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Does anyone know...


and a fish taco that he still owes me from Dallas...

-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Does anyone know...


I believe that there are multiple Hanji's here. Both with bad engrish, but
only one with a razor sharp wit.

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Does anyone know...


We also have a Hanji...!

>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:56 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Does anyone know...
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't forget, discussions of the best places to get Fish Tacos; the 
>>>world's best, and worst Beers,
>>>
>>>And best of all
>>>
>>>Missy's Six inch Heels.
>>>
>>>John Matteson; Exchange Manager
>>>Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
>>>(404) 239 - 2981
>>>
>>>My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Joel Musheno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:09 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Does anyone know...
>>>
>>>
>>>Why would you want to go anywhere else but a list that has Haiku 
>>>Fridays and berates people for stupid questions.  I wish every one of 
>>>my lists had a sense of humor.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:07 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: Does anyone know...
>>>
>>>
>>>If there is another Exchange list like this?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill Lambert, MCP,MCSE
>>>
>>>
>>>Network Consultant
>>>Endoxy Healthcare
>>>847-941-9206
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RE: Does anyone know...

[Doug Hampshire]

I believe that there are multiple Hanji's here. Both with bad engrish, but
only one with a razor sharp wit.

-Original Message-
From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 11:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Does anyone know...


We also have a Hanji...!

>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:56 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Does anyone know...
>>>
>>>
>>>Don't forget, discussions of the best places to get Fish
>>>Tacos; the world's best, and worst Beers, 
>>>
>>>And best of all
>>>
>>>Missy's Six inch Heels.
>>>
>>>John Matteson; Exchange Manager
>>>Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
>>>(404) 239 - 2981
>>>
>>>My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys!
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Joel Musheno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:09 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: RE: Does anyone know...
>>>
>>>
>>>Why would you want to go anywhere else but a list that has
>>>Haiku Fridays and berates people for stupid questions.  I 
>>>wish every one of my lists had a sense of humor.
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 1:07 PM
>>>To: Exchange Discussions
>>>Subject: Does anyone know...
>>>
>>>
>>>If there is another Exchange list like this?
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Bill Lambert, MCP,MCSE
>>>
>>>
>>>Network Consultant
>>>Endoxy Healthcare
>>>847-941-9206
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Exchange Backup

[Doug Hampshire]

The script is not Y2K compliant. Notice in the 2nd line it references
8/15/98. Clearly to be Y2K compliant the year needs to be in a 4 digit
format. Also the month should be 2 digits as well. So 08/15/1998 would be
the Y2K compliant version.

Also, you might have a problem with your sound card that is impacting your
backup. Personally I've never tried the Audio backup method on the IS or the
DS, but maybe someone else on the list has. Check with Drew on the Audio
backup feature.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Hyche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 3:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


This is it. It is a modified script for the Disaster Recovery White Paper.
Names have been changed to protect the innocent.

-

C:\Progra~1\Networ~1\Netshi~1\SHStat.Exe -Disable
rem ** 8/15/98  Backup Written by 
Rem Set Date Varible
for /F "tokens=2" %%t in ('Date /T') do set Date=%%t
rem ** This will backup the IS and DS on Audio.

C:\WinNT40\System32\ntbackup backup DS \\Server IS \\Server c: e: /d "Server
IS-DS C-D Drives %Date%" /b /hc:on /t Normal /l E:\Backup\backup.log /e

C:\Progra~1\Networ~1\Netshi~1\SHStat.Exe -Enable
exit



Audio International
Chris Hyche
MIS Technician
Phone: (501) 801-0457
Fax: (501) 801-0421
www.audiointl.com


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


ok, what's the contents of the batch file?

-- Drew

Visit http://www.drewncapris.net!  Go!  Go there now!
"Only problem with sucking up to an underworld deity is figuring out where
the ass is." -- Daniel Chenault

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:06 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


Status ID   Day Time  Command Line

---
Error  17   Each M T W Th   8:00 PM   "D:\Backup\Daily.Bat 1>
Daily.Log 2>&1"
   18   Each S  8:00 PM   "D:\Backup\Weekly.Bat 1>
Weekly.Log 2>&1"
Error  19   Each M T W Th F 8:00 AM
"D:\Backup\StartResolve.Bat 1>
StartResolve.Log 2>&1"

There are no errors in the Event log just this. The "1> Daily.Log 2>&1"
lines I added yesterday to try to log the batch files.

Audio International
Chris Hyche
MIS Technician
Phone: (501) 801-0457
Fax: (501) 801-0421
www.audiointl.com


-Original Message-
From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:02 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange Backup


we need to see the error, first.

-- Drew

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others, or strikes out against injustice, (s)he sends forth a tiny ripple of
hope, and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and
daring, those ripples build a current that can sweep down the mightiest
walls of oppression and resistance." --Robert F. Kennedy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Hyche
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 4:58 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange Backup


I am now using NT Backup and the AT command to backup my Exchange server. I
have been getting "Error" status messages on the AT command about every
other time and the only way to get the backup to follow the schedule it
delete the entry and recreate it. From what I can tell the batch fill is
never run when the error occurs. Any idea what could be causing this?

WinNT4S SP6a
Exchange 5.5 SP3

Thanks for any help.

Chris Hyche

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RE: Email Format Preference

[Doug Hampshire]

Personally I prefer to have Kelly dressed in her belly dancing outfit
reading them to me whilst feeding me grapes. But I imagine my wife and her
boyfriend might disagree with that. Besides her boyfriend have a kicking
band and I can't 'dis a fellow musician.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Razler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Format Preference


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Hello:

As a group of Admins and Exchange gurus, what are your preferences
for email format either personally or in your organization?

Do you prefer plain text?  HTML?  Why, why not?

Bob


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RE: Haiku Friday

[Doug Hampshire]

It could still be worse
He could be in Germany
Just like his brother

-Original Message-
From: James Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Hello neighbors too
I still live in Ann Arbor
Work in Novi now

We relocated
Our office further away
Now I must commute


James Winzenz, MCSE, A+
Associate Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.

 -Original Message-
From:   Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, December 07, 2001 1:14 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:RE: Haiku Friday

Well, hello neighbor!
Used to be in Ann Arbor
Now in Belleville though





-Original Message-
From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 1:07 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


Your from Ann Arbor?
Me Too! I work there at night
And live in Howell

Denis

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Soysal, Serdar
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 12:59 PM
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Subject: RE: Haiku Friday



MI is relaxed
For example Ann Arbor
Has drive through beer shop

S.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday



 Beer from a Grocer ?
 You Can't do that in P A !
 Against antique laws.


-Original Message-
From: Soysal, Serdar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
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Wish I had some beer
Ran out of six packs at home
Must run to Kroger.


-Original Message-
From: QUINN, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 10:26 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


It's Friday at three
I've had four pints of beer
I'm a happy boy

-Original Message-
From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 December 2001 14:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Haiku Friday


weekend here we go
tonight i will be drunken
then play ps2

> -Original Message-
> From: Antony Slatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 07 December 2001 13:52
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> 
> 
> Wow, a night alone
> Gin, wine, TV and more Gin
> gonna regret it
> 
> -Original Message-
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> 
> Friday is now here
> Got Car Trouble Work Trouble
> Servers still run though
> 
> Denis
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RE: LOTR Haiku

[Doug Hampshire]

But it was on the Internet so it must be true.

-Original Message-
From: Corney, Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2001 8:35 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: LOTR Haiku


 I think that was just a rumour, he denies disapproving of the film.

-Original Message-
From: Chinnery Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 07 December 2001 15:46
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: LOTR Haiku


Hear! Hear!I've been years for a good LOTR rendition.  However, I hear J R
R's son isn't too thrilled with the product.

Paul Chinnery
Network Administrator
Mem Med Ctr


-Original Message-----
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Lord of The Rings near
Only 12 more days to wait
I'm wetting my pants

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LOTR Haiku

[Doug Hampshire]

Lord of The Rings near
Only 12 more days to wait
I'm wetting my pants

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RE: Email Scanners

[Doug Hampshire]

No Kelly, say it isn't so!!! Turn back from the dark side. There is nothing
but evil and Drew there. [1]

[1] Yes many will argue that MS is the evil side. Call it what you want, I
call it job security.

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Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:38 PM
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It's not the sig.  It's the (gasp) Notes Client :(
~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
"One man's ceiling is another man's floor"


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And we're all partial to Kelly, except that damn ugly sig that she uses.

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The FAQ lists Trend... but I happen to be partial to Antigen from Sybari
Software :) ~
-K.Borndale
Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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I have been tasked to find an email scanner for our enterprise.

I was wondering which one of the many products available do you recommend?

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Ron

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RE: Email Scanners

[Doug Hampshire]

And we're all partial to Kelly, except that damn ugly sig that she uses.

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The FAQ lists Trend... but I happen to be partial to Antigen from Sybari
Software :) ~
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Network Administrator
Sybari Software
631.630.8569 -direct dial
631.439.0689 -fax
http://www.sybari.com
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I have been tasked to find an email scanner for our enterprise.

I was wondering which one of the many products available do you recommend?

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Ron

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RE: Email Scanners

[Doug Hampshire]

And what does an eMail scanner do? Does it scan for eMails in the office? Do
you take an eMail, lay it on the eMail scanner, and it scans it and creates
a .bmp file?

-Original Message-
From: Network Issues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 3:15 PM
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Subject: Email Scanners


I have been tasked to find an email scanner for our enterprise.

I was wondering which one of the many products available do you recommend?

Your advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

Ron

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RE: Badtrans and SirCam

[Doug Hampshire]

I hate when you fail to matriculate. It just leaves one feeling so empty and
unfulfilled.

-Original Message-
From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 9:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Badtrans and SirCam

Hah.  Go Terps!

Missy Koslosky
University of Maryland
Sadly, spent more time drinking than in class and failed to matriculate...
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Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: RE: Badtrans and SirCam


> Go Cyclones!

Well, duh. That goes without saying.

Chris Scharff
Iowa State University, Class of '93.

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RE: Alert: W32/BadTrans.B-mm

[Doug Hampshire]

Code Green is made of PEOPLE!!! You've got to tell them! Code Green is
PEOPLE!!!

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 8:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Alert: W32/BadTrans.B-mm


Didn't Code Green do something like that? Or Code Blue?

John Matteson; Exchange Manager
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards
(404) 239 - 2981

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine. - RFC 1925



-Original Message-
From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2001 11:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Alert: W32/BadTrans.B-mm


*Sigh* I wish virus writers would write a "positive" virus that told
users/sysops about all the holes in their system and offered advice on how
to close them. If you want me to respect how clever you are at finding
security flaws, why not do something beneficial, rather than something
destructive...

> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 26 November 2001 13:47
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: FW: Alert: W32/BadTrans.B-mm
> 
> 
> FYI.
> Trend is covering it in 170/970 and higher
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Windows NTBugtraq Mailing List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Russ
> Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 7:08 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Alert: W32/BadTrans.B-mm
> 
> 
> We saw this rising on Friday and today found out that MessageLabs is 
> seeing 400 copies/hour over the weekend (which is extremely high 
> volume of infected messages given it was the weekend);
> 
> http://www.messagelabs.com/viruseye/report.asp?id=86

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RE: E2K

[Doug Hampshire]

Sometimes, but mostly feel like it uses me. And I don't even get a kiss.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 12:23 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K


Do you use Outlook?


-Original Message-
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 3:19 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: E2K


That's what you have Outlook (or other POP3 client) for.

-Original Message-
From: Simon Stephenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K


Hi,

Can anyone help, Is there a way to get Exchange 2000 to dial the internet to
collect and send email. I have looked on TechNet and the Microsoft exchange
sites and am unable to find any answers to my questions can anyone help.

Regards,

Simon

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RE: Email Archiving

[Doug Hampshire]

Why yes, almost anyone on this list CAN recommend a product. Especially
since they can all easily read the FAQ (see link at bottom of all messages).

-Original Message-
From: Ward Sidney - siwa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:48 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Email Archiving


Hello everyone.  Can anyone recommend a product that can monitor and archive
emails coming in and out of the company?  



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RE: E2K

[Doug Hampshire]

That's what you have Outlook (or other POP3 client) for.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 7:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: E2K


Hi,

Can anyone help, Is there a way to get Exchange 2000 to dial the internet to
collect and send email. I have looked on TechNet and the Microsoft exchange
sites and am unable to find any answers to my questions can anyone help.

Regards,

Simon

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RE: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..

[Doug Hampshire]

As with all political issues, tell them that, Yes I can provide the solution
you are asking for, but here are some substantial risks associated with it.
You may also want to provide some additional options. Then ask them how they
want to proceed knowing the risks.

-Original Message-
From: Robert Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


The problem is that this guy only wants to check his own email and want us
to forward this one to his. My issue is that management TOLD me to
forward his mail (politics)

Thank You,
Robert Williams
Senior Network Administrator
Raypak, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone - 805-278-5363
FAX - 818-464-6982
www.raypak.com


-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 10:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


Create a custom recipient representing his home account. Allow auto-forward
under the IMC.

This is not recommended, by the way: the potential for mail loops is large.
Better would be to give him external access to his mailbox.

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Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 12:41 PM
Subject: Newbie question so please don 't bash me..


> What is the easy way to forward one of my users email to his pop3 home
> account, cause under delivery options I can only select other exchange 
> users..where am I missing the boat on this?
>
> Thank You,
> Robert Williams
> Senior Network Administrator
> Raypak, Inc.
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