RE: HI All: Movin event scripts
Sorry for the error. Corrected as follows. Exchange 2000 will run Exchange 5.5 event scripts. The new preferred method of performing progamming extensions, however, is event sinks. Check out http://www.cdolive.com and http://msdn.microsoft.com. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP "One man's Spam is another man's UCE." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kuminda Chandimith Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions After a long time back in the exchange discussion list. Hope this list is still working. (www.swynk.com is not the same..!!) I know lots of you guys have own web sites running, and some of them are exchange related. It will be a very nice idea if you guys could publish this URL Chris Scharff sent to me. Since SWYNK.COM is changed, its very difficult to find the list reistration page. http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english Ok. My question is, that I have a set of event Scripts working in exchange 5.5 server and we are building a new server on exchange2000. I know that E2K is not having the same event scripting interface. So can any one of you help me and explain how to move 5.5 event script to Exchange 2000 server Thanks in advance Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HI All: Movin event scripts
Exchange 2000 will run Exchange 5.5 event scripts. The new preferred method of performing progamming extensions, however, is not event sinks. Check out http://www.cdolive.com and http://msdn.microsoft.com. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP "One man's Spam is another man's UCE." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kuminda Chandimith Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions After a long time back in the exchange discussion list. Hope this list is still working. (www.swynk.com is not the same..!!) I know lots of you guys have own web sites running, and some of them are exchange related. It will be a very nice idea if you guys could publish this URL Chris Scharff sent to me. Since SWYNK.COM is changed, its very difficult to find the list reistration page. http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english Ok. My question is, that I have a set of event Scripts working in exchange 5.5 server and we are building a new server on exchange2000. I know that E2K is not having the same event scripting interface. So can any one of you help me and explain how to move 5.5 event script to Exchange 2000 server Thanks in advance Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
HI All: Movin event scripts
After a long time back in the exchange discussion list. Hope this list is still working. (www.swynk.com is not the same..!!) I know lots of you guys have own web sites running, and some of them are exchange related. It will be a very nice idea if you guys could publish this URL Chris Scharff sent to me. Since SWYNK.COM is changed, its very difficult to find the list reistration page. http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english Ok. My question is, that I have a set of event Scripts working in exchange 5.5 server and we are building a new server on exchange2000. I know that E2K is not having the same event scripting interface. So can any one of you help me and explain how to move 5.5 event script to Exchange 2000 server Thanks in advance Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Your emails give me migraines. -Original Message- From: Muqeem Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi And Who May I ask... are you SIR?? Now I am so scared of this thing.. that I would look suspiciously at mysself in the mirror OK if u the moderator.. how much did you make outta the deal how many millions... Kidding .. I can understand.. its still a wild world out there -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Fw: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine FYI .. I hope that this settles things. -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: "internet.com DL Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine > Martin, sorry for the inconvenience. It was caused by a small bug in our > software which puts join email addresses in our membership database and is > triggered every time you post to the list. It has been removed, you > shouldn't see that email again. > > Jim Wagner > internet.com DL Support > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 11:22 AM 4/30/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > From: "Martin Tuip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:28:56 +0200 > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Fw: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine > > > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > WTF is this ??? I receive this after sending a message to the Swynk.com > > > Exchange list. > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "SparkLIST.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:03 AM > > > Subject: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for registering for the MyFoodDirectory.com newsletter. You > > > > should receive your first newsletter within the week. We welcome your > > > > comments and suggestions about the newsletter and the site. You may > > > > contact us any time at: > > > > > > > > http://www.myfooddirectory.com/contact.cfm > > > > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi
And Who May I ask... are you SIR?? Now I am so scared of this thing.. that I would look suspiciously at mysself in the mirror OK if u the moderator.. how much did you make outta the deal how many millions... Kidding .. I can understand.. its still a wild world out there -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:04 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Fw: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine FYI .. I hope that this settles things. -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: "internet.com DL Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:48 PM Subject: RE: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine > Martin, sorry for the inconvenience. It was caused by a small bug in our > software which puts join email addresses in our membership database and is > triggered every time you post to the list. It has been removed, you > shouldn't see that email again. > > Jim Wagner > internet.com DL Support > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > At 11:22 AM 4/30/2002 -0400, you wrote: > > > From: "Martin Tuip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:28:56 +0200 > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Fw: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine > > > Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > WTF is this ??? I receive this after sending a message to the Swynk.com > > > Exchange list. > > > > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "SparkLIST.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:03 AM > > > Subject: Welcome to the MyFoodDirectory.com Ezine > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for registering for the MyFoodDirectory.com newsletter. You > > > > should receive your first newsletter within the week. We welcome your > > > > comments and suggestions about the newsletter and the site. You may > > > > contact us any time at: > > > > > > > > http://www.myfooddirectory.com/contact.cfm > > > > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi .. I Have the Problem with Task items in CDO..
-Original Message- From: Kuminda Chandimith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 11:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Restrict Acess to Public folder This Is The 3rd time I post this question and still it did not apear in the list. I checked my setting and all seems okay Ok I have a very basic question. I have a public folder that used as a SMSrouter for one of our customers. The Customer will send and SMTP message to our public folder when he wants an SMS message sent out. Then I'll be processing the SMSMessages using an event script. Now my problem is this. I need To remove access from all the internal staff to this folder but let the customer to post (only) messages to this folder. Since the customer is likely to send "sensitive" content in his SMSMessages don't want anybody to peep in to this public folder. How could I do that ? I tried setting default Access to -NONE- then the mails will get bounced saying "Access denied". I am a developer and usually don't mess around with security so I don't know how to do this. Thanks in Advance Kuminda Kuminda Chandimith Sr. Technical Consultant Ducont.com FZ-LLC Tel: + 971-4-3913000 Ext 237 Fax: +971-4-3913001 http://www.ducont.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
Mid to late '94 marks my initial involvement. - Original Message - From: "Ed Crowley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: RE: Hi > It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the > original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before > Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've > been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been > at it even longer. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP > Tech Consultant > Compaq Computer > "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm > thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In > any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that > Peter went live. > > The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in > the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. > > -----Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Hi > > > Peter Bowyer > > - Original Message - > From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > > list? > > > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > > (404) 239 - 2981 > > > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > > are none so blind as those who will not see > > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Hi > > > > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
EMA?! LOL! Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Matteson Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Craig: Maybe you need to "move up" the ladder to one of the messaging industry conferences, EMA (or whatever their replacement is), rather than sticking with MEC. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral; begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Hi Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC. I'm more of an Exchange fan than they are . . . _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Thanks John. Actually, I've spoken on several EMA panels. But about six years ago I started spending my conference time in VoIP areas. I try to do at least one pitch per year, and have been doing that for more than a decade. Here is a partial list of the places where I've spoken: 1994: Integration Considerations: Exchange Deployment Conference - Seattle 1995: Telephony Integration: Exchange Conference - Atlanta (I think this was a session devoted to Exchange at the EMA - there used to be dueling sessions between Exchange and Notes at the EMA) 1996: The Future of Enterprise Voice Mail: Voice Messaging Association Fall Meeting - Amsterdam 1997: Voice over IP: IBC Conference on VoIP - London 1998: Enterprise VoIP and Voice Mail: IBC Conference on VoIP - Orlando 1999: Enterprise VoIP and Voice Mail: ICM Conference on VoIP - Las Vegas 1999: Update on the Future of Enterprise VoIP and Voice Mail: Voice Messaging Association Spring Meeting - Helsinki 2000: Unified Messaging and Desktop Conferencing: ICM Conference on Unified Messaging - Orlando [Webcast] 2001: Directions for Video Conferencing in Enterprise: IMTC Fall Forum - Seattle -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Craig: Maybe you need to "move up" the ladder to one of the messaging industry conferences, EMA (or whatever their replacement is), rather than sticking with MEC. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral; begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Hi Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC. I'm more of an Exchange fan than they are . . . _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Indeed. That was cool. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! If we in our turn plan on militarism, vengeance, and retaliation, if we steel our spirits against the suffering which such pursuits always cause to the innocent, in short, if we turn to the tools of death, then whatever hollow triumph we may trumpet, it will have been Death alone which has won. --G. Simon Harak, Jesuit Priest interviewed 9/21 in NY -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Actually, Craig's been talking telephony and handhelds for about six years - and has an amazing memory for all the little details that really tell the story. Craig: for the record, I think you really should work on a history of Exchange and Microsoft's messaging strategy(ies) and activity(ies) in general. Darcy -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi We do wish you would. Someone who sees the future, and is willing to speculate (you've been talking about telephony & handhelds for at least three years now) on what the future of messaging holds, would be great! M - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Hi Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC. I'm more of an Exchange fan than they are . . . _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Craig: Maybe you need to "move up" the ladder to one of the messaging industry conferences, EMA (or whatever their replacement is), rather than sticking with MEC. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral; begetting the very thing it seeks to destroy. Instead of diminishing evil, it multiplies it... Through violence you may murder the hater, but you do not murder hate. In fact, violence merely increases hate...Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out hate; only love can do that. -- Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Hi Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC. I'm more of an Exchange fan than they are . . . _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Actually, Craig's been talking telephony and handhelds for about six years - and has an amazing memory for all the little details that really tell the story. Craig: for the record, I think you really should work on a history of Exchange and Microsoft's messaging strategy(ies) and activity(ies) in general. Darcy -Original Message- From: Missy Koslosky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi We do wish you would. Someone who sees the future, and is willing to speculate (you've been talking about telephony & handhelds for at least three years now) on what the future of messaging holds, would be great! M - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Hi Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC. I'm more of an Exchange fan than they are . . . _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
We do wish you would. Someone who sees the future, and is willing to speculate (you've been talking about telephony & handhelds for at least three years now) on what the future of messaging holds, would be great! M - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: RE: Hi Now you know why they quit asking me to speak at the MEC. I'm more of an Exchange fan than they are . . . _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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A book by you on this would sell. I want it to keep going. You should do weekly installments on the history of Microsoft Messaging platforms. Nathan > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:33 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > Ok (and for Darcy too). > > So let's talk about the Outlook Disaster first, since that > has a lot of old > time stuff and it is a perfect segue into the problems we face keeping > Exchange moving forward. > > So everyone knows the Exchange architecture at the 80,000 > foot level, right? > There is a store, rules engine, and an MTA on the server, > with a bunch of > services connectors. The GAL is now a redirector to the AD. > On the client > side you have a MAPI services layer that is a part of WOSA > and can support > any U/I or client for things like messaging, calendar and > directory - yes? > Ok, back in the beginning, the Exchange team built all of > these pieces. > Every last one of them, and was trying to keep them architecturally > consistent. They did some things better than others. One of > the teams weak > points was in extending the core services with tools for > doing workgroup > stuff. They/we understood that we didn't want to copy Notes with its > relatively closed view of the world (think Notes documents). Somehow > Exchange needed to make it possible for Office and really any > application to > work well in a collaborative way. > > Ok, knowing that and doing it are two different things. The > Exchange team > had its hands full and was not doing all that great with its workgroup > tools. There was an EDK (Exchange development kit), but it > was not very > well developed. Ok, David Goodhand (did I spell that right?) > anyway, David > was really sharp about what needed to happen, but he got his > funding from > the Office crew. So, totally independently from the Exchange > team, David > got the funding to develop a whole new client system - Outlook. As a > messaging tool it was a piece of crap, and quite poor relative to the > Exchange client (Capone), but as a workgroup tool it was night and day > better. But the real problem was Microsoft was not working > as a team. They > were quite viciously competing with themselves. It got so > bad that only two > weeks after Exchange 4.0 went RTM, the Office group released > a press story > titled "Microsoft Gets a Whole New Outlook" and started with > words to the > effect that 'Microsoft was dumping Exchange and replacing it > with Outlook . > . .' It was a PR disaster of course, because nobody outside > of the Exchange > developers and beta testers understood that Exchange the > server and Exchange > the client were two different things and that the client was > two things and > that MAPI and Exchange server were not going any place. > Plus, you had the > Capone team that felt like they had been stabbed in the back > by their own > company, which they had. Well, over the months that > followed, we gradually > picked up the pieces and went on. > > The story is worth telling because the underlying > organizational and vision > management problems that led to the Outlook Disaster still > persist. Who can > concisely describe Microsoft's strategy for the following" > - messaging > - telephony > - high mobility platforms > - embedded appliance servers > > There are others, but these four serve to make the point. In > quite a few > key areas Microsoft has multiple and inherently conflicted > strategies, and > some of the ones that they like the best are in deep denial > with long term > technical trends. Bill and Steve have built a culture that depends on > vigorous internal competition. Some of it is healthy and > some of it isn't. > Certainly their famous sense of paranoia has kept them ahead > of most of > their competitors. But, it also has created a situation in which key > decisions sometimes get made based on who has the most > political clout or > who shouts the loudest. This makes them just as susceptible > the Christensen > problem (read "The Innovator's Dilemma" by Clayton > Christensen) as anyone > else. > > Microsoft has several serious problems relative to Exchange, > and most of > them have been there since the beginning. They portable > calendar solution > is terrible. Pegasus (the HPC 1.0 version of the CE > platform) shipped in > 1996 eight months after Exchange. It's their mobile personal > calendar for > enterp
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Wow. I had forgotten how much you could pack into one post! Thanks Craig, very interesting... -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 2:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok (and for Darcy too). So let's talk about the Outlook Disaster first, since that has a lot of old time stuff and it is a perfect segue into the problems we face keeping Exchange moving forward. So everyone knows the Exchange architecture at the 80,000 foot level, right? There is a store, rules engine, and an MTA on the server, with a bunch of services connectors. The GAL is now a redirector to the AD. On the client side you have a MAPI services layer that is a part of WOSA and can support any U/I or client for things like messaging, calendar and directory - yes? Ok, back in the beginning, the Exchange team built all of these pieces. Every last one of them, and was trying to keep them architecturally consistent. They did some things better than others. One of the teams weak points was in extending the core services with tools for doing workgroup stuff. They/we understood that we didn't want to copy Notes with its relatively closed view of the world (think Notes documents). Somehow Exchange needed to make it possible for Office and really any application to work well in a collaborative way. Ok, knowing that and doing it are two different things. The Exchange team had its hands full and was not doing all that great with its workgroup tools. There was an EDK (Exchange development kit), but it was not very well developed. Ok, David Goodhand (did I spell that right?) anyway, David was really sharp about what needed to happen, but he got his funding from the Office crew. So, totally independently from the Exchange team, David got the funding to develop a whole new client system - Outlook. As a messaging tool it was a piece of crap, and quite poor relative to the Exchange client (Capone), but as a workgroup tool it was night and day better. But the real problem was Microsoft was not working as a team. They were quite viciously competing with themselves. It got so bad that only two weeks after Exchange 4.0 went RTM, the Office group released a press story titled "Microsoft Gets a Whole New Outlook" and started with words to the effect that 'Microsoft was dumping Exchange and replacing it with Outlook . . .' It was a PR disaster of course, because nobody outside of the Exchange developers and beta testers understood that Exchange the server and Exchange the client were two different things and that the client was two things and that MAPI and Exchange server were not going any place. Plus, you had the Capone team that felt like they had been stabbed in the back by their own company, which they had. Well, over the months that followed, we gradually picked up the pieces and went on. The story is worth telling because the underlying organizational and vision management problems that led to the Outlook Disaster still persist. Who can concisely describe Microsoft's strategy for the following" - messaging - telephony - high mobility platforms - embedded appliance servers There are others, but these four serve to make the point. In quite a few key areas Microsoft has multiple and inherently conflicted strategies, and some of the ones that they like the best are in deep denial with long term technical trends. Bill and Steve have built a culture that depends on vigorous internal competition. Some of it is healthy and some of it isn't. Certainly their famous sense of paranoia has kept them ahead of most of their competitors. But, it also has created a situation in which key decisions sometimes get made based on who has the most political clout or who shouts the loudest. This makes them just as susceptible the Christensen problem (read "The Innovator's Dilemma" by Clayton Christensen) as anyone else. Microsoft has several serious problems relative to Exchange, and most of them have been there since the beginning. They portable calendar solution is terrible. Pegasus (the HPC 1.0 version of the CE platform) shipped in 1996 eight months after Exchange. It's their mobile personal calendar for enterprise customers - right? Ok, so why is it that it can't synch directly to the store, even today, five years later? NetMeeting 1.0 shipped way back then as well. So why can't their CE platforms talk to it? The directory team left the Exchange team and joined the NT group to build the AD in 1996. So why is the NetMeeting ILS still not integrated? DEN/CIM was proposed with Cisco in 1997, so why can't a MAPI client do a directory lookup on the MAC address of the last device someone used for a NetMeeting session, or an Exchange session? Why isn't the data storable in a meaningful way in one of the "tools" menus in Outlook
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ty can do some of these things.] These guys are drifting and nearly visionless, and well that comes close to being clueless. It didn't used to be that way. There once was a time when the Exchange architects were some of the most forward looking visionaries you could find - any place. Now to be fair, some parts of Microsoft are firing on all cylinders. I have great hopes for some things I've seen in the PocketPC team in the past year. The CE core team may (stress the word MAY) have just figured out that data sharing in multimedia telephony is more important than video in the enterprise space, which is their core customer set (Palm is still cleaning their clock in the regular retail channel). Gee, I could go on like this for awhile, but I think you get the point. If Exchange keeps drifting, it will get knocked off. Remember when OV was king of the hill, and All-In-1 had a promising future? -Original Message----- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:49 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi yes. The Outlook Disaster specifically, but also the "keeping Exchange moving forward" stuff as well... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! No mention shall be made of coral or of crystal; the price of wisdom is above pearls. - Job 28:18 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi You mean about old times, or the Outlook disaster and why it's still a problem, or what? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I, for one, would love to hear more about this. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower -Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > Jo
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Yeah, I was at the Seattle conference, September '95 if I'm not mistaken. I had just joined the Exchange project and took the place of the person I was replacing at the conference. They had the dining hall in the garage. -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:58 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the > Exchange list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that > there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody > Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message----- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List post
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My guess is both . . . Old times and the Outlook disaster. . . I could use a memory refresh. . -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi You mean about old times, or the Outlook disaster and why it's still a problem, or what? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I, for one, would love to hear more about this. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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yes. The Outlook Disaster specifically, but also the "keeping Exchange moving forward" stuff as well... -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! No mention shall be made of coral or of crystal; the price of wisdom is above pearls. - Job 28:18 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:40 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi You mean about old times, or the Outlook disaster and why it's still a problem, or what? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I, for one, would love to hear more about this. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > Li
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You mean about old times, or the Outlook disaster and why it's still a problem, or what? -Original Message- From: Drewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I, for one, would love to hear more about this. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I, for one, would love to hear more about this. -- Drew Visit http://www.drewncapris.net! Go! Go there now! "Don't join the book burners. Don't think you are going to conceal thoughts by concealing evidence that they ever existed." -- Dwight D. Eisenhower -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:
RE: Hi
Austin was the last one I attended. But before that one, there was the MEC in Bellevue at Meydenbauer Center, and there was an Exchange Deployment Conference at the Seattle Convention and Trade Center. That one was the official transition from the Microsoft Mail Conference, which I think had its last big bash in Portland. Anyway, I made presentations at Seattle and Bellevue, and was on a panel at Austin. The thing I remember most about Austin was the Breavehearts dinner where Elaine, Eric and Brian told us what we and they were up against in terms of keeping Exchange moving forward. Also, the politics of the Outlook disaster were revealed. It was a real eye opener. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/site
RE: Hi
It was a hand-off/transition. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 9:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi In spirit. . . -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Elaine started this one? As I recall, Elaine's list was on Compuserve. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Elaine started it, then Peter Bowyer took it over. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange list? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I was at that one! Then absent until this year. Craig actually dragged me into this whole Exchange biz. . . Darcy -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
In spirit. . . -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Elaine started this one? As I recall, Elaine's list was on Compuserve. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Elaine started it, then Peter Bowyer took it over. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange list? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I remember Elaine well. She was one great resource in those pre-Ex4.0 days. In those days, daily conversations with Elaine Sharp, Robert Shurtleff, and, yes, even Brian Valentine were standard procedure. I guess I started using the list just about the time Peter started the list. We got the Beta 2 cd around October right after I got back from a Gartner ITExpo telling everyone (1) the web is a passing fancy so don't get too involved and (2) this "exchange" thing is just vaporware that will likely never be competitive with Notes. Terry Beavers Technology Specialist Information Technologies University of South Florida Tampa Florida -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Elaine started it, then Peter Bowyer took it over. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange list? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
Peter's list was at Unica ... -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: RE: Hi > Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm > thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In > any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that > Peter went live. > > The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in > the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. > > -Original Message- > From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Re: Hi > > > Peter Bowyer > > - Original Message - > From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > > list? > > > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > > (404) 239 - 2981 > > > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > > are none so blind as those who will not see > > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Hi > > > > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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It's funny you bring this up. At MEC, I was thinking back to Austin (the original Exchange Deployment Conference, MEC 1 if you will, way back before Orlando, Dallas, Atlanta, Boston and San Diego) and I realized that I've been working this technology for well over five years. I KNOW you've been at it even longer. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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The Compuserve thing, which I was subscribed to, was offered beyond Bravehearts. Maybe not initially (since I didn't get involved until Beta 2 of 4.0), but I was on it AND the conference calls but I was not technically a braveheart. My employer at the time wasn't the type to take those kinds of chances. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 3:59 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Elaine started this one? As I recall, Elaine's list was on Compuserve. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Elaine started it, then Peter Bowyer took it over. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange list? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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We used Banyan blue mail. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Black, Nathan Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh? They had Exchange back then? I thought everybody just used refrigerators and post-it notes... > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named > Eppie and they > were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in > two years. > > Hi Chris. > > For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still > considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago > when one of those > routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I > let it sit, and > sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I > thought it might be nice to drop in. > > Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at > interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? > > By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, > called Bravehearts > (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months > before 4.0 went > RTM, and well the rest is history. > > -Original Message- > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I > don't think > Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. > > However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and > "not with MS" > > Darcy > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that > remembers or knows the > whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? > > > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Like I said years ago, I may have had you beat in quantity of messages, but your aggregate word count and quality dominated. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer "There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems." -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years. Hi Chris. For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I thought it might be nice to drop in. Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went RTM, and well the rest is history. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and "not with MS" Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Wasn't Peter subsidized by his company at the time? For some reason I'm thinking it was ASL, but I may be confusing that with another UK firm. In any case, I'm thinking that it was sometime around December 1, 1995 that Peter went live. The Bravehearts group was pre-web, pre list server. It mainly existed in the form of a weekly telecon and a forum on Compuserve. -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:27 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Which is what I meant also, incidentally - I replied rather literally to the question... oops... G. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 19:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I remember that although I wasn't one. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
Peter Bowyer - Original Message - From: "John Matteson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. > > Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange > list? > > John Matteson; Exchange Manager > Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards > (404) 239 - 2981 > > ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there > are none so blind as those who will not see > --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Elaine started it, then Peter Bowyer took it over. -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange list? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Yes to Bravehearts and No to Elaine. Another old timer question, Who was the original Sponser of the Exchange list? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 ...the words that I remember from my childhood still are true, that there are none so blind as those who will not see --The Moody Blues (I know you're out there) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Hi my old friend. Ok, Darcy, I'm going to digress a bit for the list (sort of like old times) and see what kind of responses it generates. Let's see if anything has changed in the past two years. VoIP is or will be interesting, depending on where one is. I think we are not ready for it. Back in February 1996 I was invited to an all hands meeting of the Exchange team (their Friday stand-up) back when they were still in building 16. The occasion was an opportunity to have a customer representative come in and say some words of encouragement about how important the work they were doing was. In the remarks I mentioned that from where I stood, what Microsoft was building was a telephone system. Most did not understand why I said that. Over the next few years Microsoft passed up several opportunities to build or acquire the missing Exchange telephony components, but oddly, they did build an MCU. I think that was a knee-jerk reaction to the IBM-Lotus acquisition of DataBeam, and its integration into the Notes product line. Cisco did not miss a beat however, and has been off building a very credible system, with their two cornerstone pieces coming from their acquisitions of Selsius and Active Voice. I understand that Microsoft has made some noise about building an IP/PBX as a part of the Exchange family, but they are way late to the party. Also, I and think more on point to the problems that the Exchange community faces in becoming the core players in a world of converged systems, is that we now have a five year legacy of Exchange operations being architected and installed as though it's primary function was e-mail and group calendaring, as opposed to being core communications infrastructure equipment. Perhaps the difference is subtle, but it is hugely significant. This operational culture will not be easily changed. So what is Exchange? Is it an application service that is a creature of traditional file servers and server rooms? Or is it something more akin to the network itself, and as such is primarily a creature of switch rooms and data closets? What is Exchange's primary bread and butter client? Is it the currently shipping versions of Windows running on the old x86 architecture? Or is it an embedded system real time communications client that also does web and thin client stuff natively? I think we have to get on track with the right answers to these two questions before we even have a chance of doing Exchnage VoIP integration well. Of this I am certain, one cannot successfully navigate the "Road Ahead" (apologies to Bill, :-) ), by looking in the rear view mirror. That is a strategy for causing a bad accident. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I will be doing integration with VoIP as soon as we get upgraded to 5.5 sp4. Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years. Hi Chris. For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I thought it might be nice to drop in. Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went RTM, and well the rest is history. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
TINSC [1] [1] There Is No Secret Cabal [2] [2] To subscribe to the Secret Cabal [3] mailing list that doesn't exist, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with NO SUBJECT and the words "subscribe secret-cabal (your name here, not in parenthesis)" [3] Hi Sherry -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Hi There is no Inner Circle Nathan :) -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: "Black, Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: RE: Hi > One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh? > > They had Exchange back then? I thought everybody just used > refrigerators and post-it notes... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > > > The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named > > Eppie and they > > were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in > > two years. > > > > Hi Chris. > > > > For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still > > considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one > > of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I > > let it sit, and > > sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I > > thought it might be nice to drop in. > > > > Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking > > at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? > > > > By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, > > called Bravehearts > > (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months > > before 4.0 went > > RTM, and well the rest is history. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > > > I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I > > don't think > > Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. > > > > However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and > > "not with MS" > > > > Darcy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > > > Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that > > remembers or knows the > > whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
There is no Inner Circle Nathan :) -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com -- - Original Message - From: "Black, Nathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:36 PM Subject: RE: Hi > One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh? > > They had Exchange back then? I thought everybody just used refrigerators > and post-it notes... > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > > > The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named > > Eppie and they > > were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in > > two years. > > > > Hi Chris. > > > > For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still > > considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago > > when one of those > > routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I > > let it sit, and > > sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I > > thought it might be nice to drop in. > > > > Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at > > interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? > > > > By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, > > called Bravehearts > > (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months > > before 4.0 went > > RTM, and well the rest is history. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > > > I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I > > don't think > > Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. > > > > However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and > > "not with MS" > > > > Darcy > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Hi > > > > > > Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that > > remembers or knows the > > whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I will be doing integration with VoIP as soon as we get upgraded to 5.5 sp4. Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years. Hi Chris. For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I thought it might be nice to drop in. Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went RTM, and well the rest is history. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and "not with MS" Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
One of those _Inner-Circle_ things, eh? They had Exchange back then? I thought everybody just used refrigerators and post-it notes... > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 11:07 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named > Eppie and they > were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in > two years. > > Hi Chris. > > For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still > considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago > when one of those > routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I > let it sit, and > sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I > thought it might be nice to drop in. > > Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at > interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? > > By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, > called Bravehearts > (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months > before 4.0 went > RTM, and well the rest is history. > > -Original Message- > From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I > don't think > Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. > > However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and > "not with MS" > > Darcy > > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Hi > > > Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that > remembers or knows the > whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? > > > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Please stay! :) Regards Mr Louis Joyce Computer Support Analyst Network Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 November 2001 17:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years. Hi Chris. For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I thought it might be nice to drop in. Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went RTM, and well the rest is history. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and "not with MS" Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
The last I heard, Elaine had been joined by a daughter named Eppie and they were backing the UK together, But I haven't heard from her in two years. Hi Chris. For years I was one of the most active on this list, which was still considerably less than Ed Crowley, but about two years ago when one of those routine swynk messages announced a service interruption, I let it sit, and sit and well it finally got deleted. I'm not sure I'm back now, but I thought it might be nice to drop in. Is anyone here working on Exchange integration with VoIP or looking at interesting VoIP clients or Windows CE? By the way, Elaine founded the forerunner to this list, called Bravehearts (she like Mel), and then Peter took it over a few months before 4.0 went RTM, and well the rest is history. -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 9:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and "not with MS" Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I used to love her exchanges with Deckler the Heckler. Sadly, I have no knowledge of her whereabouts. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I remember that although I wasn't one. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation (soon to be HP) All your base are belong to us. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dupler, Craig Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:19 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
I'm here, and I remember Bravehearts and Elaine very well - I don't think Elaine ever forgave me for showing up in person for the meetings. However, I have no idea where she is beyond "Australia" and "not with MS" Darcy -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:28 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
Heck, I know what it means. There are a couple left, but the core has fled the coop, methinks... - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 4:18 PM Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Yep. -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 16:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Hi Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Yes, and no, in that order. Hi Craig :) -Original Message- From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 16:28 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Hi Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
Elaine moved to Australia when her husband moved there. She left MS about two years ago and, as far as I know, is still down there. - Original Message - From: "Dupler, Craig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the > whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? > > > > > > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hi
I remember Bravehearts. That was back when ... oh, never mind. I'll just get off on another rant. - Original Message - From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:18 PM Subject: RE: Hi > Sure.[1] Because I was an original participant? Nope. > > > [1] Hi Craig! > > Chris > -- > Chris Scharff > Senior Sales Engineer > MessageOne > If you can't measure, you can't manage! > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:19 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: Hi > > > > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? > > _ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Sure.[1] Because I was an original participant? Nope. [1] Hi Craig! Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! > -Original Message- > From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 3:19 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: Hi > > > Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is anyone left here that remembers what "Bravehearts" meant? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hi
Ok, let me try another one. Is anyone left here that remembers or knows the whereabouts of Elaine Sharp? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
