RE: How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread Lefkovics, William

Ouch.  Tony might not like that.

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From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?


It the best source of information I know of on the topic, so I don't know
where else to point you for similar information, unless you're in Redmond.
Sorry. :(

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> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:32 PM
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> Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> Oh how I wish I was a subscriber...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> There was a great article by Tony Redmond on the subject in 
> an issue of
> Exchange Administrator magazine earlier this year. It's 
> available online to
> subscribers I believe.
> 
> 

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RE: How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread Joe Pochedley

Nothing's stopping me ...  

I just read the article, though it gives some nice ideas for decreasing the
synch time (changing the reply/forward tracking options, etc), it still
doesn't tell me how Outlook/Exch decides what items need to be synched or
give me any idea of why a Sent Items folder takes so long even if there have
been no changes (or only one or two small additions)...

JoeP 

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what's stopping you?

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-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?


Oh how I wish I was a subscriber...

-Original Message-
From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?


There was a great article by Tony Redmond on the subject in an issue of
Exchange Administrator magazine earlier this year. It's available online to
subscribers I believe.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> Can somebody explain to me what steps Outlook and Exchange take when
> performing a synchronization?
> 
> Here's the scenario, Outlook 2000 SP1 client, Exchange 5.5 SP4 
> server... User has an Inbox with 4400+ items, about 6 megs worth of
> mail...  Inbox
> synchronizes for offline use in about 30 seconds
> Same user has a Sent Items folder with 2100+ items, but about 
> 200 megs worth
> of "stuff" (being polite, he's got big attachments)...  Takes 
> about half an
> hour to synchronize, every time..
> 
> Does Outlook have to compare each item in the folder every time it
> synchronizes?  I'm assuming that it does and that's why it takes half 
> an hour to synchronize (over a 384K WAN connection) every time
> the user needs
> to synch Outlook?  If that's the case, wouldn't it be smarter 
> for Outlook to
> keep some kind of change log while offline to assist in 
> synchronizing only
> those items that have changed, and leaving other items alone?
> 
> I'm not really looking for help here because I know the answer is 
> (most
> likely) to have the user delete his larger sent items, but I'd like to 
> provide a good explanation of if / why it takes so long every single 
> time...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Joe Pochedley

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RE: How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread Scharff, Chris

It the best source of information I know of on the topic, so I don't know
where else to point you for similar information, unless you're in Redmond.
Sorry. :(

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:32 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> Oh how I wish I was a subscriber...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:18 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> There was a great article by Tony Redmond on the subject in 
> an issue of
> Exchange Administrator magazine earlier this year. It's 
> available online to
> subscribers I believe.
> 
> *
>   Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
>   Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
>   Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, 
>   are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. 
>   -George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), [Lord Byron]
> *
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:07 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: How does synchronization work?
> > 
> > 
> > Can somebody explain to me what steps Outlook and Exchange 
> take when 
> > performing a synchronization?
> > 
> > Here's the scenario, Outlook 2000 SP1 client, Exchange 5.5
> > SP4 server...
> > User has an Inbox with 4400+ items, about 6 megs worth of 
> > mail...  Inbox
> > synchronizes for offline use in about 30 seconds
> > Same user has a Sent Items folder with 2100+ items, but about 
> > 200 megs worth
> > of "stuff" (being polite, he's got big attachments)...  Takes 
> > about half an
> > hour to synchronize, every time..
> > 
> > Does Outlook have to compare each item in the folder every time it 
> > synchronizes?  I'm assuming that it does and that's why it 
> takes half 
> > an hour to synchronize (over a 384K WAN connection) every time
> > the user needs
> > to synch Outlook?  If that's the case, wouldn't it be smarter 
> > for Outlook to
> > keep some kind of change log while offline to assist in 
> > synchronizing only
> > those items that have changed, and leaving other items alone?
> > 
> > I'm not really looking for help here because I know the
> > answer is (most
> > likely) to have the user delete his larger sent items, but 
> I'd like to
> > provide a good explanation of if / why it takes so long every 
> > single time...
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > Joe Pochedley
> 
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RE: How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread msharik

what's stopping you?

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-Original Message-
From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:32 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?


Oh how I wish I was a subscriber...

-Original Message-
From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?


There was a great article by Tony Redmond on the subject in an issue of
Exchange Administrator magazine earlier this year. It's available online to
subscribers I believe.

*
  Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
  Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
  Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, 
  are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. 
  -George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), [Lord Byron]
*

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> Can somebody explain to me what steps Outlook and Exchange take when 
> performing a synchronization?
> 
> Here's the scenario, Outlook 2000 SP1 client, Exchange 5.5
> SP4 server...
> User has an Inbox with 4400+ items, about 6 megs worth of 
> mail...  Inbox
> synchronizes for offline use in about 30 seconds
> Same user has a Sent Items folder with 2100+ items, but about 
> 200 megs worth
> of "stuff" (being polite, he's got big attachments)...  Takes 
> about half an
> hour to synchronize, every time..
> 
> Does Outlook have to compare each item in the folder every time it 
> synchronizes?  I'm assuming that it does and that's why it takes half 
> an hour to synchronize (over a 384K WAN connection) every time
> the user needs
> to synch Outlook?  If that's the case, wouldn't it be smarter 
> for Outlook to
> keep some kind of change log while offline to assist in 
> synchronizing only
> those items that have changed, and leaving other items alone?
> 
> I'm not really looking for help here because I know the
> answer is (most
> likely) to have the user delete his larger sent items, but I'd like to
> provide a good explanation of if / why it takes so long every 
> single time...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Joe Pochedley

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RE: How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread Joe Pochedley

Oh how I wish I was a subscriber...

-Original Message-
From: Scharff, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 3:18 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: How does synchronization work?


There was a great article by Tony Redmond on the subject in an issue of
Exchange Administrator magazine earlier this year. It's available online to
subscribers I believe.

*
  Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
  Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
  Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, 
  are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. 
  -George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), [Lord Byron]
*

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> Can somebody explain to me what steps Outlook and Exchange take when 
> performing a synchronization?
> 
> Here's the scenario, Outlook 2000 SP1 client, Exchange 5.5
> SP4 server...
> User has an Inbox with 4400+ items, about 6 megs worth of 
> mail...  Inbox
> synchronizes for offline use in about 30 seconds
> Same user has a Sent Items folder with 2100+ items, but about 
> 200 megs worth
> of "stuff" (being polite, he's got big attachments)...  Takes 
> about half an
> hour to synchronize, every time..
> 
> Does Outlook have to compare each item in the folder every time it 
> synchronizes?  I'm assuming that it does and that's why it takes half 
> an hour to synchronize (over a 384K WAN connection) every time
> the user needs
> to synch Outlook?  If that's the case, wouldn't it be smarter 
> for Outlook to
> keep some kind of change log while offline to assist in 
> synchronizing only
> those items that have changed, and leaving other items alone?
> 
> I'm not really looking for help here because I know the
> answer is (most
> likely) to have the user delete his larger sent items, but I'd like to
> provide a good explanation of if / why it takes so long every 
> single time...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Joe Pochedley

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RE: How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread Scharff, Chris

There was a great article by Tony Redmond on the subject in an issue of
Exchange Administrator magazine earlier this year. It's available online to
subscribers I believe.

*
  Chris Scharff[EMAIL PROTECTED]www.swinc.com
  Simpler-Webb, Inc.  Austin, TX +1-512-322-0071
  Those who will not reason, are bigots, those who cannot, 
  are fools, and those who dare not, are slaves. 
  -George Gordon Noel Byron (1788-1824), [Lord Byron]
*

> -Original Message-
> From: Joe Pochedley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:07 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: How does synchronization work?
> 
> 
> Can somebody explain to me what steps Outlook and Exchange take when
> performing a synchronization?
> 
> Here's the scenario, Outlook 2000 SP1 client, Exchange 5.5 
> SP4 server...
> User has an Inbox with 4400+ items, about 6 megs worth of 
> mail...  Inbox
> synchronizes for offline use in about 30 seconds
> Same user has a Sent Items folder with 2100+ items, but about 
> 200 megs worth
> of "stuff" (being polite, he's got big attachments)...  Takes 
> about half an
> hour to synchronize, every time..
> 
> Does Outlook have to compare each item in the folder every time it
> synchronizes?  I'm assuming that it does and that's why it 
> takes half an
> hour to synchronize (over a 384K WAN connection) every time 
> the user needs
> to synch Outlook?  If that's the case, wouldn't it be smarter 
> for Outlook to
> keep some kind of change log while offline to assist in 
> synchronizing only
> those items that have changed, and leaving other items alone?
> 
> I'm not really looking for help here because I know the 
> answer is (most
> likely) to have the user delete his larger sent items, but I'd like to
> provide a good explanation of if / why it takes so long every 
> single time...
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Joe Pochedley
> 
> 
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How does synchronization work?

2001-08-16 Thread Joe Pochedley

Can somebody explain to me what steps Outlook and Exchange take when
performing a synchronization?

Here's the scenario, Outlook 2000 SP1 client, Exchange 5.5 SP4 server...
User has an Inbox with 4400+ items, about 6 megs worth of mail...  Inbox
synchronizes for offline use in about 30 seconds
Same user has a Sent Items folder with 2100+ items, but about 200 megs worth
of "stuff" (being polite, he's got big attachments)...  Takes about half an
hour to synchronize, every time..

Does Outlook have to compare each item in the folder every time it
synchronizes?  I'm assuming that it does and that's why it takes half an
hour to synchronize (over a 384K WAN connection) every time the user needs
to synch Outlook?  If that's the case, wouldn't it be smarter for Outlook to
keep some kind of change log while offline to assist in synchronizing only
those items that have changed, and leaving other items alone?

I'm not really looking for help here because I know the answer is (most
likely) to have the user delete his larger sent items, but I'd like to
provide a good explanation of if / why it takes so long every single time...

Thanks in advance.

Joe Pochedley


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